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On March 06 2019 09:08 Holyflare wrote: Koshi + Marv make sense to me for almost anyone in the gamethose kills are rayn/vivax/rsoultin kills all day all fucking day iamp one is odd. someone def bluesniped him, i dunno. my first thought was damdred.... i thoguht he was meant to be a pro at that? | ||
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On March 06 2019 09:12 Holyflare wrote: hes a vet. 2 shots dipshit or 1 + intentional rbwhat? Iamp was obviously town, dude sucks at mafia you have successfully agitated me | ||
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On March 06 2019 09:21 Holyflare wrote: Of those 3, the most obvious RB candidate in my opinion was marv.What the fuck are you talking about? It's just basic practice to rb who you kill. They probably just got lucky that it was iamp that they rbd instead of marv. iamp put himself out there, which does coincide with vet confidence - so again, would suggest a snipe and again, my first thought was damdred you need to fuck off with your aggression to me. Im one of the few who thinks you are town, and is not going to lynch you today. | ||
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On March 06 2019 09:30 Holyflare wrote: it read as i suck at mafia for proposing this.I literally had no aggression towards you in my post. You said Iamp was odd and was blue sniped and I proposed an alternative, that it was not odd because he sucks at mafia and was obviously town and it's good practice to rb who you kill, especially with a medic dead. Why bother rbing anybody else? What I take it you meant is that he was a vet and still died, in which case it's just going to be random luck. Who cares what mafia thought? Maybe you should re-read this interaction again and take a look in the mirror. im glad we can move on. | ||
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On March 06 2019 10:17 Holyflare wrote: I endorse this even though it has my name on itBack to business please. Going on the theory that Conversion is now flipped as town and Vivax could be town, mafia did not really have to show any face at deadline whatsoever. BH did not vote to save himself and I don't think he'd be that much of a dick to his team to not even try a semblance at deadline to save himself one bit. It's possible, but unlikely. That gives us the possible information that both wagons are likely town, we just need to find who has shit on both of the lynches or looks ridiculously out of place, of which Exo looks especially bad. Not only did BH look like quintessential mafia BH, just appearing whenever called to tell us to lynch him and trolling, but in the end Exo voted for BH while shitting on the lynch because he liked Trfel a bit. Why did he not try and bring up any other kind of wagon? He had 15 minutes to talk. If anyone can say that with a straight face then they're mafia and don't know BH. Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand Koshi (1): Ace Fecalfeast (1): Pandain Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh LightningStrike (1): Rels [UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu rsoultin (1): Onegu Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar This is also a perfect place for mafia to hide and not get any suspicion with 2 town flips. We know palmar is town, bh could theoretically be town. That leaves: Mocsta, Slam, DF, Ace, AMG, MZ, Rels, Chezinu, Onegu as very likely containing at LEAST 1 mafia. Ace said his vote on Koshi was just a placeholder, for some reason he is incapable of even formulating one scum read this game. Why is that? His posts asking why I lynched Palmar instead of Sentinel are absolutely atrocious. No thoughts about the EOD wagon whatsoever. Mocsta, I already outlined a case on him, he was voting Conversion based off a post from Palmar while simultaneously wanting him lynched. He says he doesn't see the problem but I see it as a disconnect of thought from someone wanting to lynch the person that he agrees on their scum read case on. Slam, I think is very scummy. I asked for his reads and he was unable to really come up with concrete stuff. His scum read on me has either totally vanished or ???? He has a scum read on Chezinu because of some old meta where they were mafia together but he's a lot different to normal imo. Coaching and bystanding instead of really properly interacting with people or spamming. Slam also left his vote on Conversion but I can't seem to find why when he thought I was scummy before he left. He wasn't around for deadline though. TT, self reportedly afk. Justifies not wanting me as mayor even though his reasons seemed to be purely and absolutely personal rather than game based. Don't like his initial reads and now he's perpetually having RL afk excuses. Really fallen off and not much original thought anymore because of it. BC, absolutely no idea and not really read him. He ended up voting Iamp after coming out of the blue and I remember his case on iamp was that he wasn't doing anything or pushing anything when iamp had made a case on acro and was campaigning for BH's lynch. Read reeallyyy artificial to me. Scummy af. Pandain/AMG ?????????????????????????????????? Not a clue. Votes FF for what reason because ff is contentless and then afk's without providing his spreadsheet which may or may not be real in the slightest. Didn't like his posts before either. MZ has kept his spreadsheet apparently up to date. I'm tired and can't be bothered to finish this train of thought. Please remind me to check up on him later because he's been massively skating on by. Rels/Chez/Onegu could potentially be full of scum but same as mz, that's for tomorrow.. Ex0 is a great candidate for sure. I also am a fan of Ace, hes definitely skirting by within the boundaries town lets him. Im really expecting something from AMG this cycle too. In particular as a replacement. I know its host WIFOM, but I love the notion that Kitaman may have gamed the teams for old-guard vs new-guard. Probably the only one I disagree with is TT. I think hes in a weird headspace and in his mind is doing his contribution to town. its a weird type of effort to be making as mafia, and I think theres much more cost-effective methods he could be using to progress his win-con. | ||
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On March 06 2019 11:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: what do you think about ace though in that chained quote?HAHAHA HOLY SHIT. Grack are you actually town? I dont beleive he ever did ANYTHING with that. | ||
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On March 06 2019 13:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: They become cop when a cop dies. The sweet irony if palmar was mayor and lynched conversion | ||
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I filtered Ace because I was both suspicious and appreciative of the small post count. Below are my thoughts as I read through: https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?user=Ace&view=all This took longer than I thought, so there nicely summarised conclusion. Just a stream of consciousness. This feels good to me, in particular the 180 shift in mindset to HF at the EoD1. + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler [#357/8] + On March 02 2019 11:58 Ace wrote: Is there any power the Mayor has besides having a Day 1 lunch? On March 02 2019 12:01 Ace wrote: Lynch* Focused on mayor. Will he run? + Show Spoiler [#622/654] + On March 03 2019 02:10 Ace wrote: I think we should nominate someone who has barely posted yet as Mayor. There are a lot of thoughts already posted that could help us draw conclusions based on conversations. Giving a semi-lurking/lurking player lynch power and forcing them into the game seems like a good move to me. So a player like Tumblewood or tubesock should be nominated (they've barely posted from a cursory filter check). On March 03 2019 02:13 iamperfection wrote: sounds like a retarded plan to me. On March 03 2019 03:26 Ace wrote: Why + Show Spoiler [#662] + On March 03 2019 03:35 Ace wrote: Only some of us started this game knowing who is town so that premise is moot. I think you should give those players a chance to reveal their motives. You've been asking people about reads already - this idea jives right along with where you supposedly want to go. If the player is bad, then say so and we'll pick a better person with the potential to positively contribute. Emphasising mayor idea as pro-town choice. + Show Spoiler [#1197] + On March 04 2019 02:18 Ace wrote: Holyflare is absolutely hilarious. He/she gets my vote. Abandons mayor idea to mayor HF due to humour? No quote reference. I presume it is this on the same page: On March 04 2019 01:10 Holyflare wrote: Its interesting, because on one hand, you can argue its a "pro-town" move as his mayor idea received no traction, nor did it stimulate discussion. On the other hand, the idea is severed as if there was no connection to it in the first place; which is dissonant with the previous posts advocating it is pro-town.Because I'd rather get rid of cheats and if that means siding with mafia then so be it. People play differently, but I would have expected some sort of acknowledgement that it failed. + Show Spoiler [#1198/1199] + On March 04 2019 02:21 Ace wrote: BTW, if Sentinel doesn't read his role PM leave him for the Mayor Lynch and unvote him in the voting thread. Nezt best suspects should be considered instead. I actually think there is merit to HF stating people voting for Palmar over him when they have similar ideas on who to lunch (Sentinel). On March 04 2019 02:23 Ace wrote: Uhhh *lynch. Basically if they have similar ideas on who should be lynched and HF came up with the idea first(not sure, have to re-read) then why is Palmar gaining more support than he/she is. Could be nothing but I think this is one of the few real "divisive" issues that can show scum motives that we've had so far. Changes gears with the following: (1) Joins what I deem to be thread sentiment by confirming support to mayor policy lynch on Sentintel. (2) Sheeps HF argument that whoever wanted to mayor lynch Sentinel first should be mayor (3) Suggests there could be scum motivation between choosing HF or Palmar As a post in isolation, this reads OK/pro-town in that its sheeping thread sentiment with a hint towards scum hunting motivation. However, what actual scum motive or merit is there to choosing HF>Palmar if both want to lynch Sentintel and HF said it first? Mayor candidate is equally a popularity contest, and this is even moreso if both want to lynch Sentintel. The more I think about this post, the more I think this is a weird mindset for a townie. Ace votes HF due to humour, but agrees that whoever suggested Sentinel first, should be mayor. Given, this could actually be Palmar (as he admits), it indicates a total lack of care for both who is elected mayor, and the content within this post. I acknowledge 24hrs has passed since he proposed his mayor idea; however, there seems to be a full detactment from that idea. There is only focus on the mayor candidate, and who is voting them. Critically, no information is given on who Ace will swing his lynch vote towards. This one in particular is peculiar, and again, indicating a token level of care for the cycle. + Show Spoiler [#1204] + On March 04 2019 02:42 Ace wrote: Wiggles re-read what you wrote here and think about what a non-Sentinel lynch could reveal. I think we're on somewhat similar terms of thinking here. @Acrofales: *nod*. Wiggles is good here and points out one of the issues with Ace supporting the Mayor the first onto Sentinel idea. I think this is very WIFOM-y to suggest. I think everyone knows that HF is capable of swapping his mayor vote at EoD and justifying it. So it doesn't reveal anywhere near is hinted. + Show Spoiler [#1210] + On March 04 2019 03:09 Ace wrote: I really, really hope you and Wiggles are putting things together without it having to be explicitly stated 😁 So btw who is the case for second best vote? More hinting at ?nothing? The question on the second highest vote is OK, as to me its unclear if HF means he will lynch the second biggest thread consensus wagon. The thing is, why ask HF for this clarification? Is he preferring Sentinel to be lynch regardless of role PM confirmation? Is he concerned that HF may turn loose cannon and not follow through with the second highest vote? Is he seeking to know whoelse is on HF scum list? A The thing is, I would be asking this to HF if i was concerned about him, because its indicating HF has lack of care in direction of the mayor lynch and would be following thread sentiment. My expectation is for Ace to follow this through. Again, who is Ace interested in placing his vote on? This all seems to be superficial/1-dimensional care for the game. + Show Spoiler [#1378] + On March 04 2019 06:01 Ace wrote: Town consensus is influenced by scum posts. Mayor shouldn't follow it to the tee. Mayor should be someone with their own ideas about who is likely scum while considering "the town's" opinions. We want a leader not a sheep 😁 + Show Spoiler [#1383] + On March 04 2019 06:03 Ace wrote: I think you should ask on what premise would I want to skip scum mates into the post for Mayoral candidates and then avoid seriously pushing them. WIFOM argument. Tone is indicative that the idea was "pro-town" yet all posts since dropping it are detached. People play differently, when it comes to admitting an idea is sunk, so I will treat this as neutral. + Show Spoiler [#1387] + On March 04 2019 06:06 Ace wrote: No. I wanted an issue to force strong opinions to hold players to. I just picked two players at random who didn't post a lot at the time. Later on the HF/Palmar runs served that idea even better. Both seem headstrong, have the same "plan", and from what I can read command some sheep in this game. As a starting point I think that's pretty good. This reads good at face value. I wouldnt classify his campaign for this mayor idea as creating an issue in the thread that required resolving. I actually dont get his comment about the HF/Palmar. Where is the contemplation that this could be town vs town? I interpret this as one side is good, and the other is evil. -> i.e. It seems Ace is happy to pick one side of HF/Palmar and sit there. Again, where is Ace preference for lynch? + Show Spoiler [#1393] + On March 04 2019 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote: My response is more or less going to be impacted by your response to my question. On March 04 2019 05:40 iamperfection wrote: i probably wont give my full reads until tomorrow. i think your probably town though cause i think your confused by my play and are trying to figure out my alignment On March 04 2019 06:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote: see shit like this makes me still see you as mafia whereas your analysis post was one that was making me second guess my read -_- On March 04 2019 06:12 Ace wrote: Awww shit it's ScumC0bbler 😁 + Show Spoiler [#2184] + On March 05 2019 05:01 Ace wrote: @holyflare: just voted you for Mayor. I haven't fully caught up but I've been skim reading. Assuming you win the election your plan is what again? Just restate for clarity so I'm not confused or in case I missed any new developments. This is acceptable because of possibility that Sentinel issue was resolved. However, I am not a fan, as it again is shedding no information on who Ace finds scummy. I get Ace doesn't need to share, but other than an ambiguous post to BC, it appears hes only interested in locking down a mayor candidate because of a policy lynch? + Show Spoiler [#2205/2297/2340/2361] + On March 05 2019 05:08 Ace wrote: Dang homie. I remember you being fun to play with. Don't give up so early ^_^ On March 05 2019 05:44 Ace wrote: Blazinghand don't get yourself lynched for bs. If you're town you just waste a day as there's no real discussion being generated regarding you, and it's an easy wagon for Scum to hop on. On March 05 2019 05:47 Oatsmaster wrote: Ace why are you trying so hard for someone you don’t know the alignment of? On March 05 2019 06:13 Ace wrote: Define trying On March 05 2019 06:16 Oatsmaster wrote: Posting exclusively about how we shouldn’t lynch BH in your last like 5 posts On March 05 2019 06:23 Ace wrote: Might want to read that carefully champ. I didn't address you or anyone else. Just Blazinghand. In my opinion a null series of posts. I think this is more a personality thing, that some people gravitate towards outside of being mafia/town. + Show Spoiler [#2366] + On March 05 2019 06:27 Ace wrote: If you think BH is going to flip Town, then why not lynch Palmar? This is really odd. I haven't checked, but I presume HF declared he is voting Palmar at this point. So ace who was advocating two headstrong people in Palmar/HF is good for town, seems pretty non-chalant about Palmar. It also gives some viability to Oats calling out Ace for calling about BH before. Does Ace think BH is town? Again, who is Ace scum read? Is it BC? There seems to be no care in the outcome of the game. + Show Spoiler [#2399] + On March 05 2019 06:51 Ace wrote: Random vote. Got a prod that I didn't have a vote on anyone. I'll change if Im around before EOD. Is this a scumslip? WHO PRODDED ACE THAT HE DIDNT HAVE A VOTE?!?!?!? Again, why is there a total lack of care in the game to place a random vote on Koshi.. What about BC? If ace flips red, Oats is confirmed green for picking this up and calling ace out on it. + Show Spoiler [#2451] + On March 05 2019 07:51 Ace wrote: @Trfel you're close to being lynched by deadline. Claim. Interesting post. Its a typical post from either alignment, but I find it interesting how clear, direct and engaged Ace seems about this. You could argue town!ace was trying to avoid a mislynch, but i could WIFOM counter that it was to discern if worthy of a bluesnipe; or that mafia!ace was bored and had a surge of excitement. + Show Spoiler [#2597] + On March 05 2019 08:49 Ace wrote: This post reeks. Why would you pop up near EOD to post this? You even segregated players and faked outrage. Heavy FoS here. I dont like this post. Hes called BC scum twice, and kept a random vote on Koshi. No follow through to BC. Everything with Ace seems superficial / lack of care; otherthan when he demanded Trfel claim + Show Spoiler [#2668] + On March 05 2019 08:58 Ace wrote: @BC: where did I say I want Palmar killed??? @trfel: I think you should seriously claim if lynch noise bout to drop. Ace cant remember he asked Rsoultin about lynching palmar? The trfel claim thing is odd to me, given, ace hasnt taken a position on trfel, nor is it clear who Ace sees as a viable alternative. Note, ace vote is still on Koshi, not BC who is his ONLY read. You can argue taht its near EoD and panic modes, but the whole game, the only item ace has shown some direct interest in, is with trfel claiming. I dont find that townie. + Show Spoiler [#2821] + On March 05 2019 10:21 Ace wrote: Well that was terrible. @Trfel: Really wish you claimed :'(. GG tho dude/dudette. There are no mafia doctors so vigis can shoot Holyflare at will. If he somehow does not die tonight he is an auto-lynch tomorrow. Earlier in the thread when I was talking to HF and Wiggles, I was alluding to the fact that Hf or Palmar have to stick to their plan on the lynch (Sentinel). It would take a very convincing reason to lynch someone else. For all his talk, Palmar never came across as a strong scum read. HF lynching him instead of Sentinel or even BH means he has to die. He did not stick to his guns and did not have good reason to lynch Palmar. side note:Would have been funny (and rage inducing) if Trfel flipped Cop and Palmar flipped back up Cop. Anyway, we kill HF asap. No fucking around. Interesting how Ace gears up instantly against HF. Ace is fleeting from moment to moment, no actual investment in the game. 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Heres an interesting tease about Ace voting Koshi. I would love to hear this one explained.... On March 05 2019 06:38 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey ace why koshi? On March 05 2019 06:51 Ace wrote: Random vote. Got a prod that I didn't have a vote on anyone. I'll change if Im around before EOD. Is this a scumslip? WHO PRODDED ACE THAT HE DIDNT HAVE A VOTE?!?!?!? | ||
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fuck. didnt think that through. well regardless, I dont think his filter supports mason claim. | ||
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thoughts tina? | ||
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On March 06 2019 16:29 rsoultin wrote: talk about double entendre.Lol on phone and have a purring puss in my lap. Let me get breakfast and to my comp first. Jeebus | ||
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Some point this cycle. Preferably after ace responds. I want ur take on my ace case | ||
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On March 06 2019 17:29 Holyflare wrote: I don't agree with it. Why would someone fabled for being so good at mafia make such blatantly false accusations? If he doesn't come up with some read based on those posts then yeah, probably mafia. What is blatantly false from his filter that i wrote about? My case is beyond the vote prod i hope you realise. Further. His read at start of night was u. And presumably bc. Are u stating anything else is probably town? Im confused | ||
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Do u thoughts on my ace case on p200? | ||
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Can u pls give feedback on my ace case on | ||
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On March 06 2019 17:43 Jockmcplop wrote: I think its a little bit hit or miss but pretty much confirms what I was originally thinking. Ace seems like a lurker and I already had him as scum. I don't know where he was going with the whole mayor thing. Fishing maybe? He never explained why he wants to kill hf from what I saw. Just 'we need to kill hf'. Dude Ace states he is supportive of hf and palmar Then says to rsoultin.. why not lynch hf.. Ace never comments on hf changing to palmar but knows all about trfel so we can surmise hes actively reading the game Then when palmar is town.. ace rubs his hands and pipes up for an hf lynch He was behind hf and palmar and didnt care to lynch either. Then instead of voting his only scumpsect in bloodycobbler.. he throws a random vote on town This is as mafia as yoy can get. Its a 2page filter.. no excuses for anyone not to read this ... | ||
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On March 06 2019 17:48 Acrofales wrote: as a lurker. He is awarw of thread stateAce is a useless lurker doing nothing. You're reading a lot more into things than that, but it's what his play boils down to. But yeah, of the useless lurkers, he and BC are the scummiest. Your case was one of the highlights of a really boring couple of pages tho. Wiggles bussing his buddy BC. MZ feigning he's playing the game again. Chezinu sorta half-claiming cop, but not really: yawn. And why pipe up about trfel Why advocate strongly for hf lynch? | ||
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