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On March 02 2019 16:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I was making a joke because i didn't want to say i think Trfel is town and wanted to see where that train went. Which was the only thing goin on in the game atm. On March 02 2019 17:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ooookkkkay why is Trfel mafia? On March 02 2019 17:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Surprise i do things that i do as town as mafia aswell?  Fine, i got completely different read on him from the beginning and then he also did a trademark town Trfel thing later. On March 02 2019 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Town:
[..]
Trfel
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Maybe town:
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Maybe mafia:
[...] On March 03 2019 20:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well whatever. I am really gonna try to sleep now because after thursday morning i have slept no more than maybe 4 hours and i fell like i am dead.
HF
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Trfel doesn't look town anymore, FF still doesn't impress in anyway but i am terrible at reading him.
[...] Side comment, but I wont if the trfel progression is related to his scum read on FF (i.e. Rayn + FF together)
On March 05 2019 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I agree koshi trfel is also mafia.
Its odd bcause people were calling trfel mafia for the same posts that rayn detected a "trademark" town thing.
I grant he voted blazinghand so not sure wehre to taek this.
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On March 05 2019 10:56 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 10:20 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 10:17 Acrofales wrote:On March 05 2019 10:13 Holyflare wrote:On March 05 2019 10:12 Acrofales wrote:On March 05 2019 10:08 Holyflare wrote:
It's been too long and you haven't witnessed the new only plays on phone and has to work all the time Holyflare. I'm not very good anymore but my ego hasn't deflated to match. It should have. You're either an idiot or scum. Just shut up and go sit in a corner the rest of the game. You're bad. I wish I could just shoot you tonight and not have to worry about you the rest of the game. I mean if I'm mafia then I won the mayor vote while on holiday and phone posting the entire time and eliminated the person posting a lot of posts. But you're insinuating pretty hard that I'm BAD rather than mafia. If I'm mafia I'm awesome, amazing, incredible. I think you're displaying a bit too much TMI here Acro. Holy shit, if you're town you are actually terrible at this game. Like truly mindblowingly awful. I pray for the life of me you're scum, because if you're town I haven't seen someone this dumb since kushm4sta. Guys, can we stop with the skill comparison. I think we are all town here and need to work together. I assume its possible you two + koshi at minimum will be shot tonight and it would good not to dilute your filter away from the core content. Hmmm.... Are you pretending that mafia give a shit about you to be shot
get lost with the passive aggressive "hmmm"
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On March 05 2019 04:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's with the BH train? If you want to kill a hardcore lurker like that why not use the mayor lynch? I don't see the benefit On March 05 2019 06:17 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I'll consolidate onto trfel, feels better than Conv to me right now. [...]
CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT
This was the most recent vote count at time of posts above.
TF = 8, BH = 6, Conv = 4, acro = 4
if BH is scum, this is a great scum buddy post
1) Places non-committal scum read on BH
2) Is an afford to derail BH lynch (who is certainly not known as a hardcore lurker..)
3) No mayor candidate was advocating a BH mayor snipe -> i.e. is guranteed to fall upon deaf ears and receive no traction
I also note that Wiggles filter indicates he scum reads Conversion, but instantly drops this for the thread popular Trfel when it comes to saving BH. Overall, extremely hedged posting and likely mafia (alongside with BH)
On March 05 2019 01:44 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Managed to skim the thread before work. I like the Conversion case better than Acro and Oats right now for a D1 lynch. Missed the asking for permission angle the first time through, but even the recent stuff is weirdly fixated on MZ. Tunnel tunnel tunnel
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https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?user=Mr. Wiggles&view=all
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Ace, you still choosing HF over this?
+ Show Spoiler [For ace eyes only] +On March 05 2019 08:49 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 08:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Wait. I go to fucking work then sleep and come back to this clusterfuck? Why for the love of god are we lynching Palmar of all fucking people. You may hate his fucking guts right now but of all the "vet" or big name players in this game hes actually put in more effort than anyone fucking else. Do you disagree with his reads? Likely. Do I? On some of them yes. But the guy is clearly playing for the town. Have any of you guys played with him? or remember games with him? He does this shit consistently with town. He polarizes everyone in the game for or against him to get reads / generate discussion. Sometimes it may just be because hes being an asshole or believes hes better than you. So no I am not down for lynching him -_- If you were going to off an old school player at this point just to do it you'd be better served with offing Me, Ace, BH, or MZ tbh. We all have done basically nothing in comparison. We as an entire group have literally designed a day that lets mafia just slide by and do sweet fuck all and based on thread sentiment could get away with it for way way way too long. Sure you could after the fact try and harass suspects for reasons but basically everyone can regurgitate the same horseshit and you get borderline nothing. So. HF get the fuck off Palmar. You may hate his fucking guts / think hes the worlds shittiest player but the guy is clearly attempting to help the town at this point and has done far more to push that then most in this game. How about instead we look into this pool. Onegu Why? 1) Says he will be try hard. Is clearly not thus is not living up to what he said he would attempt. 2) Reads currently given have no substance to them 3) Clearly skirting by the activity requirements 4) Basically just has posts with 0 content Iamperfection I have already brought him up in my last analysis post. Basically it is very similar however to expand on it. On March 04 2019 05:40 iamperfection wrote:On March 04 2019 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
My response is more or less going to be impacted by your response to my question. i probably wont give my full reads until tomorrow. i think your probably town though cause i think your confused by my play and are trying to figure out my alignment Since I have been waiting now for awhile to see what reads he has. Let me sum it up for you. He hasn't posted any of value. Why? Because he hasnt posted any reasonable reasons. He has also asked for what? 3 vig shots now on players Someone like this whos played as long as he had know better. This isn't behaviour IMO of a townie. Its scum. This post reeks. Why would you pop up near EOD to post this? You even segregated players and faked outrage. Heavy FoS here.
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On March 05 2019 11:48 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 09:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm not really sure what's bringing this on, ls
How you doin' buddy? Something you need to talk about? This is the post I was refering to in my last post for why I townreading WoS. If I was in his shoes as scum I would tell that person to fuck off and more but instead he did showed he cared about me. wave seems to be a guy inclined to do this naturally. i dont think that in itself warrants a town lean
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On March 05 2019 11:59 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 11:57 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 11:48 LightningStrike wrote:On March 04 2019 09:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm not really sure what's bringing this on, ls
How you doin' buddy? Something you need to talk about? This is the post I was refering to in my last post for why I townreading WoS. If I was in his shoes as scum I would tell that person to fuck off and more but instead he did showed he cared about me. wave seems to be a guy inclined to do this naturally. i dont think that in itself warrants a town lean That was only part of why I am townreading him O_o I also seeing eye to eye on some of our agreed reads (although idk why he scumreading tina but I know he is) yeah i saw that after i posted lol
i havnt seen anything scummy from wave, but, the game hes playing i think is quite easy to do as scum.
where im getting at is that I think once wave finds someone to play/tease the reads out of him, his colours will be quite clear.
anyways, i gotta get work done. spent enough time on here today.
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On March 05 2019 16:09 rsoultin wrote:
if hf is mafia i'm not just dumb i'm like broccoli level iq -_- which may be the case but i don't want to live in that world
idk if bh is scum or not. i'm afraid he's town but i don't think it matters cause i think we need to know his alignment
as far as wave's comment, i wasn't waffling on palmar when i should have been cause i'm a baddy. i didn't like how he moved off of bh when i was thinking truffle was town cause i didn't want truffle to get lynched. i don't know how he interprets that as backing off my palmar read but tbh i don't think it matters cause wavering on palmar if i had done that wouldn't make me any less town anyway
ls is town. i want to bite his head off but he's town -_-
i think if we have a bh town flip people like onegu and rels need to get a really hard look, especially rels. and rayn might be town but i cba to look deeper right now and it'll just piss me off anyway Who is "Is" in 4th paragraph?
I cant firgure it out contextually
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Wow
I read my filter today and thought it was good lol
If im alive tomorrow will respond
Hf. Seriously. I applaud yoyr effort but it is was a waste of your time making this.
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On March 05 2019 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
That’s a decent case
Why?
Its taking worsw case explanation
A lot of this is easy to explain as a townie with no knowledge.
Hf does this every game we play when im town
I simply am not wishy washy when scum.
Again.ignore the big letyers. What did u actually like about it?
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On March 05 2019 21:28 marvellosity wrote:
No time my ass ??? Why be like this ???
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On March 05 2019 21:33 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 21:31 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:28 marvellosity wrote:
No time my ass ??? Why be like this ??? What? Hf said he had no time yesterday and he just made a big ass case, that’s all. Hakuna your tatas roger
Kk night
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On March 05 2019 21:34 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 21:30 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
That’s a decent case Why? Its taking worsw case explanation A lot of this is easy to explain as a townie with no knowledge. Hf does this every game we play when im town I simply am not wishy washy when scum. Again.ignore the big letyers. What did u actually like about it? I will admit you didn’t sound scummy to me from the few posts I’d read. I did just check sentinel’s filter though and I’m struggling to see where you got anything about not liking acro from it does it matter?
It was either in sentinel sicklucker or palmar.
Thise were the first three i read.
I read sicklucker because j thought he was tubesock. I wanted to read tubesock cos last game i played with him he was a very well reasoned and rstiinal town viice that i thought woukd br an easy read.
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On March 05 2019 21:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
What I like about hf's case here is that it shows that mocsta is fully getting behind one POV and then completely changing 180 more than once.
That would suggest that it isn't the totality of someone's posting that is causing him to change his mind but other factors like voting scores, and looking 'aligned' to a certain group. no. Its just someone who is heavily biased by his read on people
Its a problem i know. Im trying ro be better.
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On March 05 2019 21:42 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 21:36 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:33 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2019 21:31 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:28 marvellosity wrote:
No time my ass ??? Why be like this ??? What? Hf said he had no time yesterday and he just made a big ass case, that’s all. Hakuna your tatas roger Kk night Actually, he did bring up one interesting point. I hadn't even noticed I didn't appear (cntrl-f) in Sentinel's filter until his giant list post, which is after you "didn't like what I looked like". So how did you find me "through sentinel's filter"? Just run us through the events please, because the timeline doesn't make sense. Personally I cant remember all I know is my first three filters were Sentinel -> Sicklucker -> Palmar.. Then I think it was oats
Reading through Sicklucker and Palmar, what I wrote would pertain more to Sicklucker as hes talking about yoru early posts for policy lynch which I what I recall I was fixated on.
Palmar however has a quote you said which mentions Sentinel, which could equally be plausible.
Either way, who quoted the post is irrevelant, my comment pertained to the quote itself which was the policy lynch stuff.
Sicklucker post for posterity: https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?page=23#454 + https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?page=23#457
Palmar post for posteriy: https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?page=54#1069
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On March 05 2019 21:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 21:37 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2019 21:30 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
That’s a decent case Why? Its taking worsw case explanation A lot of this is easy to explain as a townie with no knowledge. Hf does this every game we play when im town I simply am not wishy washy when scum. Again.ignore the big letyers. What did u actually like about it? I will admit you didn’t sound scummy to me from the few posts I’d read. I did just check sentinel’s filter though and I’m struggling to see where you got anything about not liking acro from it does it matter? It was either in sentinel sicklucker or palmar. Thise were the first three i read. I read sicklucker because j thought he was tubesock. I wanted to read tubesock cos last game i played with him he was a very well reasoned and rstiinal town viice that i thought woukd br an easy read. Let's fact check. Remember you specifically said the words: Show nested quote + I didnt like acro in sentinel filter. Cheesy focus on lurjers.. reqd like he was polishing a turd. And the deadline is before March 03 2019 15:00 GMT SickluckerSL taking to acro about Lynch all Liars, no mention of lurkers from Acro + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:29 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.
Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.
Thanks.
Acrofales, the townie. what the hell did I just read. Your all bad so ill be bad so stop being so bad. also lynch all liars is the dumbest shit (at least here) and worrying about mafia claims. where did this majestic beast come from. mafiaish but def way to ego for me to handle for an entire mafia game SL commenting on Acro talking about spam: + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:31 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:27 Acrofales wrote:
Well, clearly failing as you just posted 3 one-liners in a row. Think. Then post. Also, my intention is quite obvious. I'm going away for the weekend and don't want to read 1000 posts like your last 3 when I get back. then just vote the person you think is mafia before you go and stop being such a weiner That's it. PalmarShow nested quote +So aside from the fact that rayn's post is just bad analysis (Acro and HF both look fine at the moment), his thing on me is pretty hilarious
Palmar saying he likes Acro and no mention of lurkers: + Show Spoiler +On March 03 2019 20:12 Palmar wrote:To be fair I mostly like Acro just for these two posts. They're the logical way to play the game. Kill the policy lynch, continue playing. Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.
Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 17:11 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, also, if sent was actually playing and being townie, I'd be more inclined to want him to live. But he has used this "foil" to be an attention whore and cop out of doing anything else so far. Not town play. On March 03 2019 20:16 Palmar wrote:
Like sure, if he is mafia and knows Sent is town, he could be setting up a pushback on me, but he'd have to be extra dumb to believe I'm afraid of following through with a good policy lynch because of town lashback.
I just think it's a weak play if he's mafia, and I like the fact he's not just focusing on the things in the thread right at that moment. I didn't actually read much of his cases. I got the feeling, possibly wrong, that he was reading and responding in the thread while still trying to filter out a few people. It looks like he's trying.
Like even if Sentinel flips town, lynching him is a good move for town right now. I have absolutely no qualms about killing people for playing anti-town. Mocsta liked these posts remember?: + Show Spoiler +
Palmar filter was good because it had some quotes from rayn and acro. I like that rayn picked up on acro.. palmars counter about weak play are fair and aceo is a solid player. But i give higher credit to weekend and massive game = preference to cop out even if mafia. I do like palmat back and forth with rayn and even though i know palmar excels at pushing for thread soapbox position it read as if he was trying to work with the thread instead of pretend to keep up a facade.
In this quote, which happens after reading sl/palmar/sentinel Mocsta has already pre-determined Acro looks scummy somehow by the way because he says "he likes that rayn picked up on acro" which means he got to Palmer's filter and already had this predisposition to dislike Acro. Uh-oh, it looks like we reached the end of all of their allotted time and we saw no mention of Acro focusing on lurkers or anything that would make Mocsta type what he did. What could that meaaaaaaaaaaaaaan? Lynch all liars? You are tunneled and embarrassing yourself Will.
Ok, no one mentioned the word lurker, and? Why can that not be my own interpretation or summation of policy lynch.
You are doing your usual thing of nitpicking phrasing that is not congruent with how you view things.
It doesnt make me scum. It makes you tunneled.
You might not respect me as a player, but you should respect me enough not to spruik such blatantly and as you proved, easy to confirm as false, information.
Seriously, waste of time. Im going back to my game of AC. I've done my courtesy, no more replies.
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On March 06 2019 02:37 Vivax wrote:
Anyway, here's my 100% scummers in case I die.
Iamp, Oats, Marv, Sentinel.
My 50 % scummers. Half of those are townies.
rsoultin, Wiggles, Pandain, ExO, BH, TS
Rayn not mafia cause can't be mafia with iamp in 9/10 cases.
HF just decided to be a selfish dumbass and shit up the game and hurt my feelings, but alas, he's town by PoE. He literally doesn't give a shit about being townread when town. All he cares about is that people are wrong about him no matter his alignment so he can pat himself on the back. I absolutely agree on that.
You/acro/koshi/jock/HF are pretty much my only town reads.
I cant sheep HF since he wants me dead, but will throw my vote to whomever is left out of the other 4.
im really tired today, cant be fucked reading through this game.
No scum reads, and no clear things I want to sheep.
I have a bad gut feeling about rsoultin, mainly from Day1, her ignoring me and then calling me dumb to palmar.
She acknowledged me pre-game, so I find it hard to reconcile shes forgotten me.
I dont like the idea of lynching HF because hes town. Im conflicted cos I know all game he will never drop me.
I still dont get the big deal out of the palmar point... yeah, I agreed with Palmar read on conversion, but it doent mean that I had to be against HF lynching him.
I spent like 15minutes running through the combinations about palmar post on conversion, before I came to the realisation of what he was inferring, and even then, marv has been relatively townie so the palmar read on conversion was probably wrong.
I cant really remember who else is in this game. The page count is overwhelming to keep up with.
I think there is too much focus on whose being annoying (e.g. me)..
I still think the majority of those people invested will be town, and at this point, i dont give a shit if i cop flack for it. The game would turn into lurker lynches. Too many people given opportunity to hide and throw pot shots or stick with content irrelevant to thread. Most of them are the old-guard. I would be lynching into that pile + rsoultin.
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On March 06 2019 02:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Acro and I on some serious wavelengths here. Usually mindmeld is town tell but I seem to remember getting burned by it once. Would still never lynch at this point. The other note I will make is this guy is my sleeper pick for scum.
Maybe his town game is to butter up people. I dunno. but this type of gameplay just does not sit right with me.
"Very lets be friend but im going to hedge"-ish.
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i like wave better after this.
not the content, jsut the vibe and emotional state match where i expected him to go.
On March 06 2019 05:26 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 05:19 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2019 05:16 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 06 2019 05:12 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2019 05:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Are you really reiterating something I've been off of since 2 days ago? K rsoul, good to see youre nailing your own coffin. Saves me the work. No I'm literally answering the question you asked a few hours ago when I wasn't here ^^ Apparently you don't see the connection. Oh I see you're answering a question I directed at nobody, and to quite you yourself, reading comprehension. I don't say it had anything to do with you saying 'not like', I say it's because you don't elaborate. Keep reading though. It gets juicy. I think you'll like it. Sorry, I read it once and it didn't matter because I'm town so bored zzz I know you think your flippant attitude comes off as town but it doesn't. Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 05:18 rsoultin wrote:On March 06 2019 02:20 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 04 2019 16:15 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 14:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
My weakness is I often tie people's alignments to their reads of me but I can't help but be curious.
Stuff like rsoul's read of me makes me lean scum on her because it feels like a massive cop-out when I know she's way more capable and at the very least could have taken the bad=scum route or formulated some opinion on my lacklustre performance thus far. It's real easy. -amused- I'm really not responsible for your lack of reading comprehension. Maybe responsible for being a scattered poster with a chipmunk memory, but that's another thing. The number of people who either don't (or pretend they don't, as the case was last time I remember) get when I say I 'don't like' someone and put them in my lynch list that that's a scumread is kinda staggering. But carry on boyo. I'm not hating your focus on how people are reading you. Ok I remember giving her a pass from this explanation earlier but I realize it doesn't actually explain what I want it to She still didn't elaborate on what put me on her list here---I geuss considering her list was supposedly 8 people long here maybe it was just the look of my posting or that something about me felt 'off,' but just why can't seh say so when so many other people had no problem with it? I keep coming back to this and it bothers me so much. As does much of her filter throughout the day where she pokes at people and seems afraid to make reads. Other times she does though so bleargh Still going Now I've helped you -pats- As for Palmar, my read on him was exactly as I said. He wasn't committed to playing weekend OR mostly/completely ignoring it which is totally scum wheelhouse for him. So fight me boi. Also, just because I've been itching to say it, Acro's case of she's scum for scumreading Palmar for other people sheeping Palmar is the most hilariously awful case I've ever seen rofl >< Even worse that it took him so many words to say it and he even tacked on that I was hypocritical for sheeping Palmar before and scumreading Palmar for being sheeped. What sort of derpy dumb dumb logic is that? xD Where do you say this is scum wheelhouse? Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:37 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 16:30 ExO_ wrote:On March 03 2019 20:12 Palmar wrote:To be fair I mostly like Acro just for these two posts. They're the logical way to play the game. Kill the policy lynch, continue playing. On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.
On March 03 2019 17:11 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, also, if sent was actually playing and being townie, I'd be more inclined to want him to live. But he has used this "foil" to be an attention whore and cop out of doing anything else so far. Not town play. @Palmar, let's assume Acro is the leading lynch candidate but your vote could choose somebody else to lynch. Who would you lynch instead of Acro, that isn't Sent? Palmar's entire post history seems to be super focused on this policy lynch of Sent -- that's it. Town Reads HF, Town Reads Acro. He's not wanting to scum hunt on day 1, but go all in on a policy lynch. I don't think I mind having a strong conviction about the policy lynch, but I think I do mind only green reading other people and only pushing your one policy lynch. I think Palmar is scum. I like Rayn's read on Palmar, ironically, cause I think they're both scum.
Palmar not playing on a weekend is Palmar-y. Palmar playing is Palmar-y. This half and half stuff I wouldn't trust with a 10-foot pole and I hate how much support he's gotten. I also hate that some of that is probably from shit town who just see the shiny name and go oh, Palmar, he's a god, let's check our brains at the door.-cocks head at- So you've decided to play rather than whine about people saying a person who was only posting images was a good vig target? You talk about how you hate how much support he's gotten. Not about how Palmar not playing is scummy. If this is another reading comprehension thing, maybe you should just start posting better.
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On March 06 2019 07:32 Holyflare wrote:
I'm convinced Kita made up that Palmar was a backup cop to spite me. hahah, yeah that could be on the money lol
will be a good chuckle post game
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Koshi + AMG i reckon.
AMG is a good player
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