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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 18:05 GMT
#7705
@Onegu: mind telling me where you're going with your questions about my role? I'd like to know what you hope to learn... especially as I have literally already said exactly what my role did.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 18:09 GMT
#7709
There are far too few people talking about this:
On March 13 2019 20:31 Acrofales wrote:
Bah, chezinu is in the US, so there's no chance he'll respond to me any time soon. Gonna have to lay out his reasoning myself, which ruins the chance for him to prove he's not brown, but green. But I need to do it, to get all the reasoning out there, so we can get on with the real lynch of the day: Onegu.

Chezinu, the veteran

The claims:
+ Show Spoiler [preamble] +

On March 10 2019 10:18 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2019 10:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Well I was going to say about the Chez lynch that I'm not sure how to feel since Chez seems to be completely gone. Felt weird to try to lynch someone who's not even playing. But then what do I spy but this:

On March 10 2019 09:57 Chezinu wrote:
##Vote sicklucker


What's happening my brooding brown brother? I think it's time to confess about that evil living inside of you.

LOL

GG


If you kill me, you will die.


On March 10 2019 10:49 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2019 10:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Chez you claiming Blue?

Already did earlier.

Seriously the brown claimed blue this game. It's like the end of the world or something.


On March 10 2019 10:51 Chezinu wrote:
Would be so funny if wiggle and vivax had bombs on thems.


Up to this point, nobody really knew what to make of chez's claims, except FF, who picked it up, naturally, being the real hatter, as a truthful hatter claim. He sniffed out that this was a weird claim, and counterclaimed the shit out of it. What he didn't know was that chez was fake-claiming as the town veteran, and the moment he gets counterclaimed, instead of doubling down, he starts recanting, but only part of the claim:

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On March 10 2019 11:35 Chezinu wrote:
On March 10 2019 11:33 LightningStrike wrote:
Rolf chez posted right when I was typing that out lol..... What abilities you talking about Chez?

I'm a veteran at this game. When I'm up for lynch, it forces me to play like never before. So, the mission town had in voting for me has been accomplished. I am playing now. Mad hatters's bombs don't go off when lynched.. only when killed at night.

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On March 11 2019 12:43 Chezinu wrote:
On March 11 2019 10:46 Ace wrote:
As of now we have these claimed roles. If any of the information is wrong let me know.

1 Normal Vigilante (1 shot) - Tumbleweed
1 Lurker Vigilante (Can only target players that had less than 5 posts previous day) - Arcofales
Mad Hatter with 1 bomb - Fecalfeast
Mad Hatter - Chezinu
Day Vigilante - Pandain

Known roles:

Marv = Cop
Trfel = Doctor
Palmar = Backup Cop
iamperfection = Veteran

BC = Scum Roleblocker



With a closed set up we don't know role numbers, but some things we can surmise. I've stated these concerns in earlier posts but I want to keep this stuff on people's minds.

Most of my thoughts come from how I see a balanced game. This is usually from the idea that Scum doesn't really need much power in their roles to destroy the town. When I see lots of high powered Town Roles I assume scum is compensated somehow.

With what we know right now the Town has a shit ton of KP even if it's 1 shot. We have 5 KP plus the lynch. This isn't really that outlandish on the surface because we started with 36 players. But if we're walking around with that much KP look at what's missing - we've had 1 Doctor flip, and 1 cop flip. The backup cop doesn't count as an investigation role because it does nothing until the cop flips. That means in addition to veteran we've seen 2 protective roles and ONE active investigation role included with 8? total KP, 3 of which are guaranteed to hit Town and come with a role blocker.

No one has come out with any information on night investigations. I highly doubt we only had one information role so someone is holding onto something. This again gives the Town massive power vs the only known Scum role of RB.

So I just don't buy all of these claims.

Pandain's Day Vigi claim seems credible to me. Scum having a Day Vigi when they already have 3 KP doesn't match with what we know so far. I'm supposing mods know about the self-confirmation power of normal vigilantes and how shooting during the day boosts that even more.

TW hasn't been counter claimed on the BC shot. Almost confirmed town.

FF and Chez's claims can't be confirmed w/o rolecop or death lol. Both of them being hatters and Town is just wtf. But luckily these claims coincide with the problem role imo: Acro's lurker vigilante.

I've never seen this role afaik remember. When I first saw it I was like oh shit what a great concept! But then I kept thinking about it and it just doesn't seem to fit at face value. Remember, one of the issues with vigilantes is they are Town aligned but their KP can also hit Town. MAfia doesn't have this issue as they know their teammates and their KP will always hit Town.

So Acro is a Town aligned vigilante and gets to shoot people based on lurking conditions. First, the mods would have to know the issue that comes up if only Town satisfies that condition. You'd have a town aligned vigilante becoming completely anti-Town and killing teammates. Sure, they may want to give players control of dealing with lurkers and we can look at Acro as a mod tool. But, post count isn't a sub for post quality. They'd quickly realize that a potentially valuable pro-Town player would be screwed. However, this isn't the only problem with the role for me.

Damdred + Chezinu + Pandain. Those were his choices Night 2. I highly, highly doubt if this role is true it would drop only Town players into his cross hairs. It would be a strictly anti-town role and we would have to lynch him anyway unless you believe he only has 1 shot. If his role is true Acro should have thought hard about some of this and immediately railroaded Chez or Pandain. And if Pandain is town confirmed day vigilante, this means Chezinu has to be scum. Anyone believing Acro's claim should want Chezinu lynched soon.

Let's see how the night plays out and who comes out with a claim tomorrow.



I believe you are wrong about your Chezinu Role Claim. I know... he is hard to read.



Show nested quote +
On March 10 2019 11:32 Chezinu wrote:


Getting lynched is lame. Everyone said they were going to shoot me... sigh... How am I supposed to use my abilities if I get lynched?

Claims a role that requires getting shot at.

Show nested quote +
On March 10 2019 15:51 Chezinu wrote:
On March 10 2019 14:17 sicklucker wrote:
Oh hes just a mad hatter j/k lynch chez I thought he had a gun + Show Spoiler +
tormorow


Come on.. think about it... if I was a mad hatter, wouldn't I be talking to ticktock all game?

Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 13:04 Chezinu wrote:
Dear doctors and medics,

Do not protect me. My death will lead to more information... That is only if I die at night. Ace is an amazing investigator.





Caution: bombs can eliminate players that visit the player with the bomb when it goes off.

Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 13:11 Chezinu wrote:
On March 11 2019 13:07 Mocsta wrote:
On March 11 2019 13:04 Chezinu wrote:
Dear doctors and medics,

Do not protect me. My death will lead to more information... That is only if I die at night. Ace is an amazing investigator.





Caution: bombs can eliminate players that visit the player with the bomb when it goes off.
Wtf role si this?



On February 09 2010 16:02 Incognito wrote:
Mad Hatter
You may lay bombs on one player per night (maximum 2). If you are killed you will throw the switch and detonate them, killing the players (if they aren't protected by extra night lives, paramedics, or bodyguards). You may remove any number of them from players at any time during the night to get them back, but if a player is lynched with one on them while the you are still alive you lose that bomb for good. Bombs are refunded if the target is killed during the night.



Oh yeah.. it doesn't kill visitors.. does it? That would be so cool!!!

We really need to retry this end of the world game with more explosives!


This is all... very weird if he's scum that just got counterclaimed. Scum that gets counterclaimed don't back down. They insist that there are 2 hatters in the game, that FF is lying or something else. They don't just kinda ignore the counterclaim. Not even chezinu. So why back down, but in such a weird way? Because he wanted scum to waste KP on him.

Note, there are numerous references to veteran incongruently scattered around his filter, which may just be talking about TL veterans, veteran players, or be breadcrumbing his role. The biggest one is the one he quoted earlier, but there are more. Of course, it's chezinu the brown, he who speaketh in riddles, so good luck deciding if they're breadcrumbs or just weird use of language. But they exist.

But the kicker is this: Chezinu knows he was never gonna get scumshot at night, so he claimed a role that scum does want to shoot. By claiming hatter, with bombs on probable townies, scum would totally shoot the shit out of him, and he'd soak up KP, exactly as he is intended to. His confusion about the role is because he never bothered to actually research hatters, and when counterclaimed kinda just dropped it. He was still playing at it halfheartedly during the night, but the big play he had imagined was already dead in the water.

The next day, when he doesn't end up dead, he gives up and posts the true role claim.

Could this all be an elaborate plot by a scum!Chezinu to save his bacon after his fakeclaim failed? Maybe, but nothing about his behaviour around the fakeclaim makes sense. He isn't calling FF out on it, he isn't imploring town that there are really two hatters, and he isn't pushing the matter at all. Scum doesn't just give up on fakeclaims. They insist, and wheedle.

So chezinu is a veteran.

Can there be two veterans and a medic in a 35player game? I'm inclined to say yes.

Chezinu the black, or Chezinu the red: if he's an sk/survivor with a bulletproof vest, or a mafia veteran, claiming hatter and trying to get shot doesn't make sense. The whole mindset is to survive, and avoiding getting shot is still the safest way of doing that, not using your bulletproof vest to soak a bomb. Mafia makes even less sense, because why not just shoot FF, and if the bomb is on chezinu, he survives, and if it's on someone else in FF's list of scumspects, it's a 2-for-1. Ez pickings, and a far better shot than TT.

So, Chezinu is green, not brown, and town may rejoice!




The implications:

The fact that scum didn't shoot FF, means they already figured this shit out. They knew Chezinu was town and didn't kill FF anyway. Why not? Because they had figured out that it wouldn't be a 2-for-1 because they got chezinu's breadcrumbs. So next best solution: leave both alive and push the lynch to be between them on D4. Guess who is really adamant about that? Onegu.

Now, you say, nobody knew that, and it's obvious to lynch between the claim and the fake claim as a townie too. I grant you that, which makes everything Onegu has done today NAI (although I specifically went back to the start of the day to figure out who was taking the "easy way out" and focusing exclusively on the FF <> Chezinu situation, and one name really jumped out; guess whose).

So lets make a list of everything Onegu has done this game:

D1. Nothing
D2. Nothing
D3. Where it gets interesting.

He starts with pushing Pandain after he dayvig's HF, because there is "no way town does that". In particular, look at this post:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 22:43 Onegu wrote:
On March 09 2019 22:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 09 2019 22:38 Onegu wrote:
On March 09 2019 22:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 09 2019 22:12 Onegu wrote:
Or tell me why my logic is bad?

Don't think scum would have a day vig especially when it would instant win in LYLO/MYLO as someone mentioned plus he had replaced out and replsced back in thus less likely chance he's scum I think.



This isnt a normal game. Possible scum get a 1 shot on day 3. Why should town make that shot though. Doesnt make sense. Only scum take that shot.

Second that is meaningless. Mean I shit I forgot the game started. Get replaced. Come back hey I wanted to play. AMG doesnt want to play scum or some shit comes up. Pandain comes back.

HF should always been shot by a vig of any sort though so we had info on the mayor wagon Day 1 and the Day 2 lynch.....



Not true at all. Would you have shot him if you had a day vigi? After the flips he was obv town.

This just reeeeeeeeks of TMI. Note that this is from a guy who has not mentioned Palmar a single time in his filter, and has a grand total of two posts talking about HF. HF's alignment was definitely not obvious to me based on the flips, and even if you did think HF was town, did the N2 nightkills help you with that in the slightest. There is scum knowledge shining through in this post, in order to push for his lynch on Pandain.

The rest of the day, he is waffling about Chez. He leaps onto the wagon when my role is misunderstood. Jumps off when I clarify, and leaps back on at the slightest opportunity.

Has he ever explained the read? No. The only reason is the fakeclaim. Nothing else.

Then we get:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2019 08:40 Onegu wrote:
ONCE AGAIN TO HAMMER THIS HOME NO ONE GETS ANY TOWN CRED FROM THAT LYNCH.


This is.... not good. Even if you believe scum didn't know sentinel was one of them, it was still good scumhunting to find sentinel. Even if you think the best you can credit the case with was scum-aligned-survivor, some people still look good for finding that. And Pandain looks best. Trying to remove that from the equation is anti-town play. Moreso, because he just doesn't want people townreading Pandain, who he still sees as lynchbait.

Show nested quote +
On March 12 2019 18:41 Onegu wrote:
I feels since day three I have been one of the more active players... Maybe I am wrong...

In terms of activity, this may have been true (didn't check), but in terms of usefulness or transparency? Onegu has played his cards close to his chest.

During D3 he posted about: pandain, and chezinu. That's it. Narrow focus. No scumhunting. Just latching onto these and trying to get them lynched. During N3 he kept up his laser focus on pandain and chezinu, and adds in muddying the waters around the sentinel lynch. That is it. There is no searching for the rest of the scumteam. No investigation. Nothing that townies do. This is not a town Onegu. This is a scum Onegu.

KILL ONEGU FOR TOWN JUSTICE

Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 18:10 GMT
#7712
On March 14 2019 03:08 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 03:05 Acrofales wrote:
@Onegu: mind telling me where you're going with your questions about my role? I'd like to know what you hope to learn... especially as I have literally already said exactly what my role did.


I asked for clarification. You haven’t given it.

What's there to clarify, I stated exactly what my role did.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 18:16 GMT
#7717
On March 14 2019 03:10 Onegu wrote:
I want to learn exactly what it did. Because I don’t understand the 5post thing.


postcounts = { name: 0 for name in players}
for post in posts:
elif nightpost:
break
else:
postcounts[post.get_author()] +=1

killable = []
for name, count in postcounts:
if count <= 5:
killable.append(name)


for name in players:
if name not in votecount:
killable.append(name)

print(killable)

Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 18:17 GMT
#7718
EBWOP: bleh, I had an if for the daypost in there first, but felt it was pointless. so

On March 14 2019 03:10 Onegu wrote:
I want to learn exactly what it did. Because I don’t understand the 5post thing.


postcounts = { name: 0 for name in players}
for post in posts:
if nightpost:
break
else:
postcounts[post.get_author()] +=1

killable = []
for name, count in postcounts:
if count <= 5:
killable.append(name)


for name in players:
if name not in votecount:
killable.append(name)

print(killable)

Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 18:18 GMT
#7721
On March 14 2019 03:12 Onegu wrote:
If someone made 4 posts but voted could you shoot them. If some one made 6 posts but didn’t vote could you shoot them.

And did hosts tell you who you could shoot or did you have to keep track yourself?

Yes
Yes
Had to keep track myself.

Like... all this is literally in my claim
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 18:25 GMT
#7727
On March 14 2019 03:22 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 03:18 Acrofales wrote:
On March 14 2019 03:12 Onegu wrote:
If someone made 4 posts but voted could you shoot them. If some one made 6 posts but didn’t vote could you shoot them.

And did hosts tell you who you could shoot or did you have to keep track yourself?

Yes
Yes
Had to keep track myself.

Like... all this is literally in my claim



Well call me stupid and on pain meds. I am trying to understand. But thank you for making it clear for me.

One last question are you sure those are the only 3 you could have shot?

No. But I went through everybody's filter at the time and think I got it right.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 18:33 GMT
#7732
On March 14 2019 03:19 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 03:04 Acrofales wrote:
On March 14 2019 02:53 Tubesock wrote:
On March 14 2019 02:46 ExO_ wrote:
Has TS done/said something recently that makes him more likely to be scum than myself? I though TS was basically in the same boat of being afk as I was and I'm curious why he's generally being more pushed than me.


Because I’m in that sweet spot where I’m easily forgotten and just don’t have much to contribute.

Wiggles then vivax didn’t like me but I think they are probably town. The ones who jumped on later though would be where the mafia are.

Less talking about you, more talking about other people. I asked you a question a couple of hours ago, when you said about the same. You just claimed town and to look into your lynch leaders "after you died", but you are townreading all of your lynch leaders. So instead of telling us what to do postmortem, you should be able to do better right now. What makes them scum, rather than just wrong town?

Because really, I think they may very well be right. But my priority is definitely lynching Onegu


I think Vivax is town. I think Wiggles probably is town. You’re saying I should just make shit up to scumread them? No thanks.

The problem I have with your case is that I don’t think there’s two vet’s in the game. And you seem to think Pandain is town, do you really think there are 9 blues in this game? I think that’s a bit much.

No, I don't think you should scumread them. But then what is this about?
On March 13 2019 15:41 Tubesock wrote:
When I flip remember who pushed it.

Of course people know when they OMGUS, that happens a lot. I’m pretty sure it happened earlier in this game.



Like... what the fuck. If you think the guys pushing your lynch are scummy, then make the case now. If you don't think so, then why do we need to look at them post-flip, and not *some other guys who you DO think are scum*.................
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 18:34 GMT
#7733
On March 14 2019 03:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 03:28 Onegu wrote:
On March 14 2019 03:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 14 2019 03:24 Onegu wrote:
On March 14 2019 03:22 Jockmcplop wrote:
@acrofales
I was about to quote that post.
That explanation of the chezinu situation makes total sense.

I don't know about the case against onegu though. I didn't understand how those night kills made hf definite town either, but I get what he's saying about the day vig should be waiting until later to get more info before shooting.

He's also right that no-one gets town cred from the sentinel lynch. Scum could have easily been on that wagon without knowing he was traitor.

The thing i find most scummy is that he needed to find a way to avoid responding to you.




I have responded to everyone. I just didn’t want to talk about acro until he made things clear. As his shot is the most suspicious to me currently. I wasn’t avoiding shit....

Why is acros shot somehow more suspicious than Pandain?



If we go by shot it’s not. Acros shot looks much better than Pandains. But I don’t know why a scum Pandain move his vote from town ace to sent. Why not just let ace die there if he is scum?

Did scum even know if he was the traitor? I kinda glossed over the discussion last time it happened but I thought the consensus was he knew the scum but they didn't know him.

He definitely didn't know them. They may or may not have known him. Probably not tho.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 18:34 GMT
#7737
On March 14 2019 03:24 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 03:22 Jockmcplop wrote:
@acrofales
I was about to quote that post.
That explanation of the chezinu situation makes total sense.

I don't know about the case against onegu though. I didn't understand how those night kills made hf definite town either, but I get what he's saying about the day vig should be waiting until later to get more info before shooting.

He's also right that no-one gets town cred from the sentinel lynch. Scum could have easily been on that wagon without knowing he was traitor.

The thing i find most scummy is that he needed to find a way to avoid responding to you.




I have responded to everyone. I just didn’t want to talk about acro until he made things clear. As his shot is the most suspicious to me currently. I wasn’t avoiding shit....

So now that I clarified. Lets have that analysis!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 18:40 GMT
#7744
On March 14 2019 03:36 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 03:34 Acrofales wrote:
On March 14 2019 03:24 Onegu wrote:
On March 14 2019 03:22 Jockmcplop wrote:
@acrofales
I was about to quote that post.
That explanation of the chezinu situation makes total sense.

I don't know about the case against onegu though. I didn't understand how those night kills made hf definite town either, but I get what he's saying about the day vig should be waiting until later to get more info before shooting.

He's also right that no-one gets town cred from the sentinel lynch. Scum could have easily been on that wagon without knowing he was traitor.

The thing i find most scummy is that he needed to find a way to avoid responding to you.




I have responded to everyone. I just didn’t want to talk about acro until he made things clear. As his shot is the most suspicious to me currently. I wasn’t avoiding shit....

So now that I clarified. Lets have that analysis!


Actually I kind of believe you. Did you have a deadline to give hosts the shot so they could confirm it was a ok shot?

Not that I know of.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 18:41 GMT
#7746
Also, this is a disappointing fizzle to what was building up to a great OMGUS. Slightly sad you didn't go for it.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 18:47 GMT
#7748
Ok. Where's the tubesock case. I agree with ExO_ that the worst he did was stop playing when his internet went out. It's not great, but it's just shit that happens. Show me tubescum, or I'm gonna keep hollering until we're lynching onegu (I accept a DF lynch too).
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 18:53 GMT
#7751
Basically, this is the list right now:


Acro
Chezinu
Pandain
FF


Vivax
Oats
LS
Wiggles
sicklucker
Rels


grack
jock
mocsta
tubesock
ExO_
Slam


MZ


DF
Onegu

Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 19:00 GMT
#7754
On March 14 2019 03:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 03:47 Acrofales wrote:
Ok. Where's the tubesock case. I agree with ExO_ that the worst he did was stop playing when his internet went out. It's not great, but it's just shit that happens. Show me tubescum, or I'm gonna keep hollering until we're lynching onegu (I accept a DF lynch too).

Did you not see his list post and Vivax's post in response to TS's list post?

I didn't agree with much on his list post. But I don't see anything *scummy*. I mean, there's clear logical errors there. Vivax is completely right on that. But... making mistakes doesn't make you scum. If it were, we should totally lynch vivax
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 19:02 GMT
#7757
On March 14 2019 03:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Acro why do you like SL compared with Onegu?

Feel, mostly.

On March 12 2019 04:40 Acrofales wrote:
@SL:

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On March 03 2019 08:18 sicklucker wrote:
Not sure about oats but i think its more likely people forgot how oats played mafia when hes trying. Nothing really stood out for me

Read progression please. You have insight on Oats?


Other than that, there's a few red flags in SL's filter, but overall he seems too bouncy and all over the place to be scum. I don't really know SL's scumgame at all, but I get the feeling from his filter that he's playing the town game and happy to be doing so.

Main red flag:
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On March 03 2019 16:10 sicklucker wrote:
On March 03 2019 13:13 Conversion wrote:
On March 03 2019 11:26 Palmar wrote:
So this is not a joke, I am going to do nothing but vote Sentinel until he comes in to the thread and says "I have read my role PM". Just pile votes on him because he's playing a strategy that's only advantageous to mafia.


wait what the fuck


its not a joke bro.+ Show Spoiler +
makes me think townie palmar for now

Ends up voting HF for mayor:
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On March 05 2019 10:20 sicklucker wrote:
i feel pretty dumb voting hf for mayor now I didnt think he was killing palmar at the time which is insanely stupid in a game with so many anti towners. if marv plays good and obv town ill happily sheep him

HF was nothing if not obvious about what he was going to do. Even if you don't think he's serious, if you have a strong townread on Palmar (strong enough to mention it anyway, which is more than he did for anyone except LS... and maybe rsoul). SL was there for at least part of that push, so why is he still voting HF?

Minor red flag: has a scumread on conversion, but is all chummy with marv on N1.


Haven't really changed my mind since.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 19:04 GMT
#7759
But you're right. He hasn't done anything today except try to herd sheep onto chez. Merits scrutinizing. He shouldn't be green. Move him to black.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 19:05 GMT
#7760
On March 14 2019 04:01 Chezinu wrote:
Wait.. does this mean there could be a mafia mad hatter?

Doubt it. That doesn't make any sense. Punishing town vigis for shooting scum would only really fit in a bastard game.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 19:10 GMT
#7764
On March 14 2019 04:07 Onegu wrote:
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On February 20 2019 23:38 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 20 2019 19:46 Acrofales wrote:
As this game gets bigger, will the rules be changed? Seems mafia will at the very least need more KP?


Yeah lol. Once we settle on a final player count, I'll update the setup accordingly.

+ Show Spoiler +
Then I'll reveal that you were all tricked into joining Insane Mafia 3



Have you not read the spoiler?

Even hosts can joke. I'll stay with the fact that it's described as closed normal, meaning there might be some surprises but nothing too crazy. Although it does look like kita got some inspiration from the very early games, and they were a bit wilder in terms of "normal" setup. Got a train ride ahead with phone only time. So I'll take advantage to check out the really old games.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
March 13 2019 19:13 GMT
#7767
On March 14 2019 04:10 LightningStrike wrote:
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On March 14 2019 04:00 Acrofales wrote:
On March 14 2019 03:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 14 2019 03:47 Acrofales wrote:
Ok. Where's the tubesock case. I agree with ExO_ that the worst he did was stop playing when his internet went out. It's not great, but it's just shit that happens. Show me tubescum, or I'm gonna keep hollering until we're lynching onegu (I accept a DF lynch too).

Did you not see his list post and Vivax's post in response to TS's list post?

I didn't agree with much on his list post. But I don't see anything *scummy*. I mean, there's clear logical errors there. Vivax is completely right on that. But... making mistakes doesn't make you scum. If it were, we should totally lynch vivax

It's actually a tell he usually give more reasons for his reads.

Meta me up. Make the case. I have never played with tubesock and am not gonna search for games. If there's a meta reason for him being scum if he's lazy on the list post, I need to see:

examples of list posts where he gives meticulous reasoning as town
examples of list posts where he gives throwaway reasoning as scum

@TS: you want to talk about yourself? While LS is making his metacase, you can come up with countermeta examples:
examples of list posts where you have throwaway reasoning as town
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