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On March 06 2019 00:47 Holyflare wrote:
You can quite easily evaluate things yourself my dude, you're a big boy. Don't have to believe everything I say.
Ok. Great. Do wiggles and sentinel.
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On March 06 2019 00:55 Holyflare wrote:
Care to evaluate mocsta's as well then?
No problem. I think you brought up some good points. After hearing his side, I don't think the point about me is very salient. He read 3 filters and cited the wrong one. It's a big game, and people get confused. I know I do.
But the whole inconsistency about sheeping Palmar's case while unquestioningly sitting on your mayor wagon to kill Palmar is pretty scummy. He's definitely moving up on the ladder. Yesterday I read his exchange with Palmar as two townies having at it, and then having a come-to-jesus moment over the revelation of a scumslip. But I didn't clue into the fact that all that time he was voting you for mayor, and therefore still wanted to murder Palmar even after their making up over a conversion lynch. It's like in this post: https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27281706 he completely forgot that Palmar was one of his main scumspects and he was right then voting to dead him.
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On March 06 2019 01:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 21:54 Holyflare wrote:On March 05 2019 21:37 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2019 21:30 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
That’s a decent case Why? Its taking worsw case explanation A lot of this is easy to explain as a townie with no knowledge. Hf does this every game we play when im town I simply am not wishy washy when scum. Again.ignore the big letyers. What did u actually like about it? I will admit you didn’t sound scummy to me from the few posts I’d read. I did just check sentinel’s filter though and I’m struggling to see where you got anything about not liking acro from it does it matter? It was either in sentinel sicklucker or palmar. Thise were the first three i read. I read sicklucker because j thought he was tubesock. I wanted to read tubesock cos last game i played with him he was a very well reasoned and rstiinal town viice that i thought woukd br an easy read. Let's fact check. Remember you specifically said the words: I didnt like acro in sentinel filter. Cheesy focus on lurjers.. reqd like he was polishing a turd. And the deadline is before March 03 2019 15:00 GMT SickluckerSL taking to acro about Lynch all Liars, no mention of lurkers from Acro + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:29 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.
Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.
Thanks.
Acrofales, the townie. what the hell did I just read. Your all bad so ill be bad so stop being so bad. also lynch all liars is the dumbest shit (at least here) and worrying about mafia claims. where did this majestic beast come from. mafiaish but def way to ego for me to handle for an entire mafia game SL commenting on Acro talking about spam: + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:31 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:27 Acrofales wrote:
Well, clearly failing as you just posted 3 one-liners in a row. Think. Then post. Also, my intention is quite obvious. I'm going away for the weekend and don't want to read 1000 posts like your last 3 when I get back. then just vote the person you think is mafia before you go and stop being such a weiner That's it. PalmarSo aside from the fact that rayn's post is just bad analysis (Acro and HF both look fine at the moment), his thing on me is pretty hilarious
Palmar saying he likes Acro and no mention of lurkers: + Show Spoiler +On March 03 2019 20:12 Palmar wrote:To be fair I mostly like Acro just for these two posts. They're the logical way to play the game. Kill the policy lynch, continue playing. Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.
Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 17:11 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, also, if sent was actually playing and being townie, I'd be more inclined to want him to live. But he has used this "foil" to be an attention whore and cop out of doing anything else so far. Not town play. On March 03 2019 20:16 Palmar wrote:
Like sure, if he is mafia and knows Sent is town, he could be setting up a pushback on me, but he'd have to be extra dumb to believe I'm afraid of following through with a good policy lynch because of town lashback.
I just think it's a weak play if he's mafia, and I like the fact he's not just focusing on the things in the thread right at that moment. I didn't actually read much of his cases. I got the feeling, possibly wrong, that he was reading and responding in the thread while still trying to filter out a few people. It looks like he's trying.
Like even if Sentinel flips town, lynching him is a good move for town right now. I have absolutely no qualms about killing people for playing anti-town. Mocsta liked these posts remember?: + Show Spoiler +
Palmar filter was good because it had some quotes from rayn and acro. I like that rayn picked up on acro.. palmars counter about weak play are fair and aceo is a solid player. But i give higher credit to weekend and massive game = preference to cop out even if mafia. I do like palmat back and forth with rayn and even though i know palmar excels at pushing for thread soapbox position it read as if he was trying to work with the thread instead of pretend to keep up a facade.
In this quote, which happens after reading sl/palmar/sentinel Mocsta has already pre-determined Acro looks scummy somehow by the way because he says "he likes that rayn picked up on acro" which means he got to Palmer's filter and already had this predisposition to dislike Acro. Uh-oh, it looks like we reached the end of all of their allotted time and we saw no mention of Acro focusing on lurkers or anything that would make Mocsta type what he did. What could that meaaaaaaaaaaaaaan? Lynch all liars? 
I disagree that my list post was lurkers, but it was being characterized as such in the thread. So I'm not surprised he picked up on it. I don't think it's the massive scumslip you make it out to be.
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On March 06 2019 01:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 01:32 Acrofales wrote:On March 06 2019 01:12 Holyflare wrote:On March 05 2019 21:54 Holyflare wrote:On March 05 2019 21:37 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2019 21:30 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
That’s a decent case Why? Its taking worsw case explanation A lot of this is easy to explain as a townie with no knowledge. Hf does this every game we play when im town I simply am not wishy washy when scum. Again.ignore the big letyers. What did u actually like about it? I will admit you didn’t sound scummy to me from the few posts I’d read. I did just check sentinel’s filter though and I’m struggling to see where you got anything about not liking acro from it does it matter? It was either in sentinel sicklucker or palmar. Thise were the first three i read. I read sicklucker because j thought he was tubesock. I wanted to read tubesock cos last game i played with him he was a very well reasoned and rstiinal town viice that i thought woukd br an easy read. Let's fact check. Remember you specifically said the words: I didnt like acro in sentinel filter. Cheesy focus on lurjers.. reqd like he was polishing a turd. And the deadline is before March 03 2019 15:00 GMT SickluckerSL taking to acro about Lynch all Liars, no mention of lurkers from Acro + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:29 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.
Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.
Thanks.
Acrofales, the townie. what the hell did I just read. Your all bad so ill be bad so stop being so bad. also lynch all liars is the dumbest shit (at least here) and worrying about mafia claims. where did this majestic beast come from. mafiaish but def way to ego for me to handle for an entire mafia game SL commenting on Acro talking about spam: + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:31 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:27 Acrofales wrote:
Well, clearly failing as you just posted 3 one-liners in a row. Think. Then post. Also, my intention is quite obvious. I'm going away for the weekend and don't want to read 1000 posts like your last 3 when I get back. then just vote the person you think is mafia before you go and stop being such a weiner That's it. PalmarSo aside from the fact that rayn's post is just bad analysis (Acro and HF both look fine at the moment), his thing on me is pretty hilarious
Palmar saying he likes Acro and no mention of lurkers: + Show Spoiler +On March 03 2019 20:12 Palmar wrote:To be fair I mostly like Acro just for these two posts. They're the logical way to play the game. Kill the policy lynch, continue playing. Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.
Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 17:11 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, also, if sent was actually playing and being townie, I'd be more inclined to want him to live. But he has used this "foil" to be an attention whore and cop out of doing anything else so far. Not town play. On March 03 2019 20:16 Palmar wrote:
Like sure, if he is mafia and knows Sent is town, he could be setting up a pushback on me, but he'd have to be extra dumb to believe I'm afraid of following through with a good policy lynch because of town lashback.
I just think it's a weak play if he's mafia, and I like the fact he's not just focusing on the things in the thread right at that moment. I didn't actually read much of his cases. I got the feeling, possibly wrong, that he was reading and responding in the thread while still trying to filter out a few people. It looks like he's trying.
Like even if Sentinel flips town, lynching him is a good move for town right now. I have absolutely no qualms about killing people for playing anti-town. Mocsta liked these posts remember?: + Show Spoiler +
Palmar filter was good because it had some quotes from rayn and acro. I like that rayn picked up on acro.. palmars counter about weak play are fair and aceo is a solid player. But i give higher credit to weekend and massive game = preference to cop out even if mafia. I do like palmat back and forth with rayn and even though i know palmar excels at pushing for thread soapbox position it read as if he was trying to work with the thread instead of pretend to keep up a facade.
In this quote, which happens after reading sl/palmar/sentinel Mocsta has already pre-determined Acro looks scummy somehow by the way because he says "he likes that rayn picked up on acro" which means he got to Palmer's filter and already had this predisposition to dislike Acro. Uh-oh, it looks like we reached the end of all of their allotted time and we saw no mention of Acro focusing on lurkers or anything that would make Mocsta type what he did. What could that meaaaaaaaaaaaaaan? Lynch all liars? I disagree that my list post was lurkers, but it was being characterized as such in the thread. So I'm not surprised he picked up on it. I don't think it's the massive scumslip you make it out to be. What the fuck are you talking about? Your list post happens after all of my case and after everything that is quoted.
No. My list post was sunday morning and Mocsta only even entered the thread on sunday afternoon...
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On March 06 2019 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also the only reason why conversions vote switch is bad is if bh is a power mafia role
what? If BH is scum (which I am doubting), conversion's vote switch is an obvious play for scum, and we're waffling around it. It doesn't make much sense to analyse it, because we can't even pressure conversion about it (which is, btw, a fantastic reason to do it as scum, and imho an abuse of game mechanics around replacements). But scummarv will show himself, and there's a couple of people ahead of him in the lynch pile.
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On March 06 2019 01:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 01:48 Acrofales wrote:On March 06 2019 01:41 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2019 01:32 Acrofales wrote:On March 06 2019 01:12 Holyflare wrote:On March 05 2019 21:54 Holyflare wrote:On March 05 2019 21:37 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2019 21:30 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
That’s a decent case Why? Its taking worsw case explanation A lot of this is easy to explain as a townie with no knowledge. Hf does this every game we play when im town I simply am not wishy washy when scum. Again.ignore the big letyers. What did u actually like about it? I will admit you didn’t sound scummy to me from the few posts I’d read. I did just check sentinel’s filter though and I’m struggling to see where you got anything about not liking acro from it does it matter? It was either in sentinel sicklucker or palmar. Thise were the first three i read. I read sicklucker because j thought he was tubesock. I wanted to read tubesock cos last game i played with him he was a very well reasoned and rstiinal town viice that i thought woukd br an easy read. Let's fact check. Remember you specifically said the words: I didnt like acro in sentinel filter. Cheesy focus on lurjers.. reqd like he was polishing a turd. And the deadline is before March 03 2019 15:00 GMT SickluckerSL taking to acro about Lynch all Liars, no mention of lurkers from Acro + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:29 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.
Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.
Thanks.
Acrofales, the townie. what the hell did I just read. Your all bad so ill be bad so stop being so bad. also lynch all liars is the dumbest shit (at least here) and worrying about mafia claims. where did this majestic beast come from. mafiaish but def way to ego for me to handle for an entire mafia game SL commenting on Acro talking about spam: + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:31 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:27 Acrofales wrote:
Well, clearly failing as you just posted 3 one-liners in a row. Think. Then post. Also, my intention is quite obvious. I'm going away for the weekend and don't want to read 1000 posts like your last 3 when I get back. then just vote the person you think is mafia before you go and stop being such a weiner That's it. PalmarSo aside from the fact that rayn's post is just bad analysis (Acro and HF both look fine at the moment), his thing on me is pretty hilarious
Palmar saying he likes Acro and no mention of lurkers: + Show Spoiler +On March 03 2019 20:12 Palmar wrote:To be fair I mostly like Acro just for these two posts. They're the logical way to play the game. Kill the policy lynch, continue playing. Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.
Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 17:11 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, also, if sent was actually playing and being townie, I'd be more inclined to want him to live. But he has used this "foil" to be an attention whore and cop out of doing anything else so far. Not town play. On March 03 2019 20:16 Palmar wrote:
Like sure, if he is mafia and knows Sent is town, he could be setting up a pushback on me, but he'd have to be extra dumb to believe I'm afraid of following through with a good policy lynch because of town lashback.
I just think it's a weak play if he's mafia, and I like the fact he's not just focusing on the things in the thread right at that moment. I didn't actually read much of his cases. I got the feeling, possibly wrong, that he was reading and responding in the thread while still trying to filter out a few people. It looks like he's trying.
Like even if Sentinel flips town, lynching him is a good move for town right now. I have absolutely no qualms about killing people for playing anti-town. Mocsta liked these posts remember?: + Show Spoiler +
Palmar filter was good because it had some quotes from rayn and acro. I like that rayn picked up on acro.. palmars counter about weak play are fair and aceo is a solid player. But i give higher credit to weekend and massive game = preference to cop out even if mafia. I do like palmat back and forth with rayn and even though i know palmar excels at pushing for thread soapbox position it read as if he was trying to work with the thread instead of pretend to keep up a facade.
In this quote, which happens after reading sl/palmar/sentinel Mocsta has already pre-determined Acro looks scummy somehow by the way because he says "he likes that rayn picked up on acro" which means he got to Palmer's filter and already had this predisposition to dislike Acro. Uh-oh, it looks like we reached the end of all of their allotted time and we saw no mention of Acro focusing on lurkers or anything that would make Mocsta type what he did. What could that meaaaaaaaaaaaaaan? Lynch all liars? I disagree that my list post was lurkers, but it was being characterized as such in the thread. So I'm not surprised he picked up on it. I don't think it's the massive scumslip you make it out to be. What the fuck are you talking about? Your list post happens after all of my case and after everything that is quoted. No. My list post was sunday morning and Mocsta only even entered the thread on sunday afternoon... Okay, let me just get this straight. You are defending Mocsta by saying maybe he read the thread and somehow conveniently forgot that and attributed it to one of the 3 player's he had read filters of, despite saying he hadn't read the thread. That's acceptable, okay. Even though he said he hadn't actually read the thread (is that a lie then?) Then you also have to say that when I made the case and called him out on it he retroactively changed his stance to it being him meaning POLICY on Sentinel and not actually anything to do with lurkers: Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 22:06 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:54 Holyflare wrote:On March 05 2019 21:37 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2019 21:30 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
That’s a decent case Why? Its taking worsw case explanation A lot of this is easy to explain as a townie with no knowledge. Hf does this every game we play when im town I simply am not wishy washy when scum. Again.ignore the big letyers. What did u actually like about it? I will admit you didn’t sound scummy to me from the few posts I’d read. I did just check sentinel’s filter though and I’m struggling to see where you got anything about not liking acro from it does it matter? It was either in sentinel sicklucker or palmar. Thise were the first three i read. I read sicklucker because j thought he was tubesock. I wanted to read tubesock cos last game i played with him he was a very well reasoned and rstiinal town viice that i thought woukd br an easy read. Let's fact check. Remember you specifically said the words: I didnt like acro in sentinel filter. Cheesy focus on lurjers.. reqd like he was polishing a turd. And the deadline is before March 03 2019 15:00 GMT SickluckerSL taking to acro about Lynch all Liars, no mention of lurkers from Acro + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:29 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.
Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.
Thanks.
Acrofales, the townie. what the hell did I just read. Your all bad so ill be bad so stop being so bad. also lynch all liars is the dumbest shit (at least here) and worrying about mafia claims. where did this majestic beast come from. mafiaish but def way to ego for me to handle for an entire mafia game SL commenting on Acro talking about spam: + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:31 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:27 Acrofales wrote:
Well, clearly failing as you just posted 3 one-liners in a row. Think. Then post. Also, my intention is quite obvious. I'm going away for the weekend and don't want to read 1000 posts like your last 3 when I get back. then just vote the person you think is mafia before you go and stop being such a weiner That's it. PalmarSo aside from the fact that rayn's post is just bad analysis (Acro and HF both look fine at the moment), his thing on me is pretty hilarious
Palmar saying he likes Acro and no mention of lurkers: + Show Spoiler +On March 03 2019 20:12 Palmar wrote:To be fair I mostly like Acro just for these two posts. They're the logical way to play the game. Kill the policy lynch, continue playing. Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.
Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 17:11 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, also, if sent was actually playing and being townie, I'd be more inclined to want him to live. But he has used this "foil" to be an attention whore and cop out of doing anything else so far. Not town play. On March 03 2019 20:16 Palmar wrote:
Like sure, if he is mafia and knows Sent is town, he could be setting up a pushback on me, but he'd have to be extra dumb to believe I'm afraid of following through with a good policy lynch because of town lashback.
I just think it's a weak play if he's mafia, and I like the fact he's not just focusing on the things in the thread right at that moment. I didn't actually read much of his cases. I got the feeling, possibly wrong, that he was reading and responding in the thread while still trying to filter out a few people. It looks like he's trying.
Like even if Sentinel flips town, lynching him is a good move for town right now. I have absolutely no qualms about killing people for playing anti-town. Mocsta liked these posts remember?: + Show Spoiler +
Palmar filter was good because it had some quotes from rayn and acro. I like that rayn picked up on acro.. palmars counter about weak play are fair and aceo is a solid player. But i give higher credit to weekend and massive game = preference to cop out even if mafia. I do like palmat back and forth with rayn and even though i know palmar excels at pushing for thread soapbox position it read as if he was trying to work with the thread instead of pretend to keep up a facade.
In this quote, which happens after reading sl/palmar/sentinel Mocsta has already pre-determined Acro looks scummy somehow by the way because he says "he likes that rayn picked up on acro" which means he got to Palmer's filter and already had this predisposition to dislike Acro. Uh-oh, it looks like we reached the end of all of their allotted time and we saw no mention of Acro focusing on lurkers or anything that would make Mocsta type what he did. What could that meaaaaaaaaaaaaaan? Lynch all liars? You are tunneled and embarrassing yourself Will. Ok, no one mentioned the word lurker, and? Why can that not be my own interpretation or summation of policy lynch.You are doing your usual thing of nitpicking phrasing that is not congruent with how you view things. It doesnt make me scum. It makes you tunneled. You might not respect me as a player, but you should respect me enough not to spruik such blatantly and as you proved, easy to confirm as false, information. Seriously, waste of time. Im going back to my game of AC. I've done my courtesy, no more replies. Can you really defend that too?
No. I can't. There's something fishy about mocsta. I think we agree. I don't really know why you have to harp on about me not thinking absolutely every detail you picked up is scummy. It's night. He isn't here. There isn't a lynch to consolidate, and when there is, it's consolidating on you, not mocsta. But if you're green, you might not have been an utter failure. /golfclap.
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On March 06 2019 02:01 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 01:58 Acrofales wrote:On March 06 2019 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also the only reason why conversions vote switch is bad is if bh is a power mafia role what? If BH is scum (which I am doubting), conversion's vote switch is an obvious play for scum, and we're waffling around it. It doesn't make much sense to analyse it, because we can't even pressure conversion about it (which is, btw, a fantastic reason to do it as scum, and imho an abuse of game mechanics around replacements). But scummarv will show himself, and there's a couple of people ahead of him in the lynch pile. Is it illegal to share my opinion acro?
No. But try to make sense when you do. Your one-liner is a complete non-sequitur.
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On March 06 2019 02:09 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 02:07 Acrofales wrote:On March 06 2019 02:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2019 01:58 Acrofales wrote:On March 06 2019 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also the only reason why conversions vote switch is bad is if bh is a power mafia role what? If BH is scum (which I am doubting), conversion's vote switch is an obvious play for scum, and we're waffling around it. It doesn't make much sense to analyse it, because we can't even pressure conversion about it (which is, btw, a fantastic reason to do it as scum, and imho an abuse of game mechanics around replacements). But scummarv will show himself, and there's a couple of people ahead of him in the lynch pile. Is it illegal to share my opinion acro? No. But try to make sense when you do. Your one-liner is a complete non-sequitur. you rather I randomly quote someone who said conversion was hella scummy?
No. But ok. You already dealt with if BH is a townie. Now:
On March 06 2019 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also the only reason why conversions vote switch is bad is if bh is a power mafia role
What if BH is a goon?
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On March 06 2019 02:23 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 02:15 Acrofales wrote:On March 06 2019 02:09 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2019 02:07 Acrofales wrote:On March 06 2019 02:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2019 01:58 Acrofales wrote:On March 06 2019 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also the only reason why conversions vote switch is bad is if bh is a power mafia role what? If BH is scum (which I am doubting), conversion's vote switch is an obvious play for scum, and we're waffling around it. It doesn't make much sense to analyse it, because we can't even pressure conversion about it (which is, btw, a fantastic reason to do it as scum, and imho an abuse of game mechanics around replacements). But scummarv will show himself, and there's a couple of people ahead of him in the lynch pile. Is it illegal to share my opinion acro? No. But try to make sense when you do. Your one-liner is a complete non-sequitur. you rather I randomly quote someone who said conversion was hella scummy? No. But ok. You already dealt with if BH is a townie. Now: On March 06 2019 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also the only reason why conversions vote switch is bad is if bh is a power mafia role What if BH is a goon? Then the switch is ~~~ because conversion has to know that he’s probably going down after bh flips so there’s a decent chance it’s a 2 for 1 so I’m not sure he does that if bh is a goon
Does he though? He was replaced out and could never be called out on his vote switching shenanigans, and BH already explained how townies can do it. Moreover, it was in the context of HF shooting Palmar in the face, so scum also knew that shitstorm was going down simultaneously. I reckon he figured he could get away with it, and being replaced by marv, the king of scummers everywhere, there was a good chance they'd even bullshit their way out of it. At least as long as BH is unflipped, anyway.
And they aren't wrong. We probably shouldn't focus on that. BH looks like he might start playing, and his "GG guys" post was pretty townie (although if they knew they were gonna vote shenannies, that could've been precrafted to be good).
Meanwhile, the HF situation is a far bigger problem. Either one of the major town voices is scum and we need to get rid of him. Or he's an idiot scum sympathizer and we have to get rid of him anyway. So we need to get rid of HF *now*. Or in the words of the great Palmar, may he rest in peace:
On March 05 2019 08:50 Palmar wrote:- Sadly you have to kill HF if he murders me. I'm not even sure he's mafia but it'll be an argument for days and days if you don't. Get it over with.
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Oh, and Oats: you see how much better this works if you post your thoughts, rather than just your conclusion?
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On March 06 2019 02:35 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think mafia would have any idea that I would shoot Palmar in the slightest. They would have thought it was a ruse.
Wait. Why didn't you just tell them in the QT?
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On March 06 2019 02:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ok wait a minute.
I think I found something solid on rsoul?
Am I crazy in that nowhere does she solidly state WHY she thinks Palmar is scum aside from the fact that she likes Rayn's case which she then assumes to be a bus? This gives some context to her waffling a little on it later but earlier on in the day she just states 'he's a scumread' a bunch with almost no context aside from the fact that the idea seems to be gaining some traction. Like the only post where she gives even a bit of information at all, half of it is dedicated to talk about whether he does or doesnt play as scum or town on weekends.
And then later on she mentions how he can push a wagon as scum or town.
This might be it. Like, the rest of her filter looks ok, I don't mind the style where she pops in and snipes stuff here and there because there is actually some work/reads here and there. But it's when it comes to stuff that COUNTS that things always look off to me (ie. reads on me because I know my own alignment, reads on flipped players)
Did you even read my case? Because my case says that right there.
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Although I was doubting it myself. It seemed so scummy. Glad we independently reached the same conclusion, I guess. Just give me credit for it, k?
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On March 06 2019 02:37 Vivax wrote:
Anyway, here's my 100% scummers in case I die.
Iamp, Oats, Marv, Sentinel.
My 50 % scummers. Half of those are townies.
rsoultin, Wiggles, Pandain, ExO, BH, TS
Rayn not mafia cause can't be mafia with iamp in 9/10 cases.
HF just decided to be a selfish dumbass and shit up the game and hurt my feelings, but alas, he's town by PoE. He literally doesn't give a shit about being townread when town. All he cares about is that people are wrong about him no matter his alignment so he can pat himself on the back.
Hm. And yesterday I thought we were mostly on the same wavelength.
At least we can agree on rsoultin, sentinel and wiggles.
But why do you have Lamp and Oats as strong scumreads?
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On March 06 2019 03:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 03:10 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2019 03:07 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2019 02:48 Vivax wrote:I'd still lean Oats (???) because even with that pressure he doesn't commit to any sort of scum team besides "half the thread", at least in any meaningful way to advance the game. Like this post is why Sentinel is confirmed scum. When you're town, you read something that catches your attention, form the opinion, then go write about it to justify your opinion. Here you have Sentinel forgetting to fill in the blank cause first he wrote up some bsbsbsbs, then he tried to decide what would be the best way to read Oats for that. Basically mafia with his pants down. I think that's a bit of a stretch lol. Can quite easily forget a word or two when writing a giant wall of text. I mean if you think this ONE missing word confirms him mafia then why the fuck don't you think Mocsta who was caught lying about his entire read on Acro isn't mafia? :D
No. He actually has a point. It isn't in the big post where he "forgot the word". He literally posted Oats as a scumread and then used the same justification to post Oats as a not-a-scumread.
This is backed up a bit later when Oats has disappeared off his scum list completely:
On March 05 2019 05:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:05 Acrofales wrote:On March 05 2019 05:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 05 2019 05:01 Acrofales wrote:On March 05 2019 05:00 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 05 2019 04:54 Acrofales wrote:On March 05 2019 04:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's with the BH train? If you want to kill a hardcore lurker like that why not use the mayor lynch? I don't see the benefit Because BH is not your typical lurker. IMHO it's like foolishness or sandroba lurking. They hate playing scum, so just don't. Even assuming this is true the only way this makes sense is if we have absolutely no other candidates to lynch. BH has barely defended himself and he's barely posted in the thread which means we barely get any information when we learn his role except maybe who sheeped his vote. I'd rather lynch scum than "information". God, you're really trying to dig yourself into this hole, aren't you? :O No, you'd rather pick an easy lynch based off activity rather than trying to figure out who all the scum are. Lol. Hi pot. Here are my scumreads rn LS Damdred Tictock Trfel I'm fine with lynching any of the four and I want whoever I do lynch to say as much as they can before they die so that maybe I can learn something useful
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On March 06 2019 03:14 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 03:11 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 06 2019 02:58 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2019 02:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
In case it got buried,vivax you need to explain why Iamp is top scum read. I'm not finding much aside from one recent post. If I had a word to describe town iamp, it'd be something like crusader against bullshit. He played the part pretty well yesterday when BH came back into the thread, but not for long enough to warrant that name since he decided to kill Palmar by voting HF over himself instead. Well that's....pretty damning? hmm. Ok yeah going to need something from iamp on this. I can't for the life of me understand why he voted for HF. How has nobody brought this up yet? Jesus. Scummy post from you though. seems like you know hf is mafia?
When did you get so bad at this game?
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On March 06 2019 03:35 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 03:34 Acrofales wrote:On March 06 2019 03:14 iamperfection wrote:On March 06 2019 03:11 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 06 2019 02:58 Vivax wrote:On March 06 2019 02:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
In case it got buried,vivax you need to explain why Iamp is top scum read. I'm not finding much aside from one recent post. If I had a word to describe town iamp, it'd be something like crusader against bullshit. He played the part pretty well yesterday when BH came back into the thread, but not for long enough to warrant that name since he decided to kill Palmar by voting HF over himself instead. Well that's....pretty damning? hmm. Ok yeah going to need something from iamp on this. I can't for the life of me understand why he voted for HF. How has nobody brought this up yet? Jesus. Scummy post from you though. seems like you know hf is mafia? When did you get so bad at this game? Trying to bait me?
Well. You made a big bad case on me. That was bad.
Then you helped get Palmar killed for bad reasons. I even told you I went back and read his filter trying to read it as scum and couldn't, yet you just persisted and nailed him to the cross (holyflare might have dragged him up there, but you sure as shit helped hammer the nails in).
So if you're town, please stop being bad. We kinda need the help.
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On March 06 2019 03:46 marvellosity wrote:
Iamp’s case wasn’t bad, it may be wrong but it wasn’t bad
It was cherrypicking at its finest.
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On March 06 2019 03:46 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 03:44 LightningStrike wrote:On March 06 2019 03:43 Rels wrote:
lol how the fuck has BH 5 pages of filter Spamming wanting to die does wonder on the filter size  yeah. 99% sure he's scum playing the too scummy to be scum card. I've seen him do that in another game I've played with him
Except he isn't being too scummy to be scum.
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I mean, BH is gonna have to die or we're just gonna have this conversation til the end of days. But On March 05 2019 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:
Well, sorry for the poor performance guys. Exo is either more perceptive than most of you, or scum looking for post flip cred, for talking to me like I'm town. Same with Ace.
I really didn't expect the thread to balloon so much. Thabks for killing me early, this is a good plynch. Good luck everyone, and have fun!
This while useless seems like a VT who doesn't want to play, and not like a scummer who doesn't want to play. He's at least dropping *some* kinda info there.
Note that this was pretty much simultaneous with Conversions shenanigans, so unless they are scum together (a possibility that we shouldn't disregard and why we need the flip), BH really thought he was getting lynched here, and this is his "last words".
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