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Calix
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On July 02 2018 20:58 Conversion wrote: Role setup? the three of you claimed blue or am I retarded Rayn didn’t counter Koshi after Koshi claimed nor did he vote for Koshi which heavily implies he is not claiming medic. But sure, clarification would be good. | ||
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On July 02 2018 21:04 Conversion wrote: yeah I’m not retarded and you need to fuck off. This is twice now you make bullshit statements (first one calling me out for WIFOM and then immediately WIFOM defending Koshi) In a word where rayn and Koshi are claiming the same role, in the case you are legit somehow, why the fuck would anyone lynch outside of these two Your “aggressive” persona isn’t going to convince me of your townieness so you can drop that whenever you want. As for your question, because I have a difference check. Duh. Last game I played there was also a parity cop with difference check and we lynched outside of that. I do not want this happening again. | ||
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On July 02 2018 21:07 Conversion wrote: also you literally replied to rayn saying you believed his claim on page 120.. I said it was self resolving. I didn’t talk about Rayn claim much on D2, pretty sure. Now I infer it was a fake claim but that he’s still town. As said some clarification would be good. But if you disagree then go look into who out of Rayn and Koshi would be the mafia. | ||
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On July 02 2018 21:09 Conversion wrote: anyways I’m heading out to work now. I will not mvoe my vote unless we’re lynching Koshi cause I believe rayn over him Oh yeah how is that new job going for you anyway? Settled in yet? | ||
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On July 03 2018 01:28 Holyflare wrote: You mean that game we lynched all the mafia in? Another bad response to my posts. What is the point of saying this? I don't like your posts this cycle. I'm starting to think you're mafia and whoever the townie is out of ShoCkeyy and Conversion just misread their role PM. Unlike the last game, which had framers, millers, Godfathers, etc, there is no reason why you'd ignore a difference check ever. | ||
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On July 03 2018 03:02 CopCake wrote: @Rayn @Conversion Probability of being reading w/w interaction? You are too tunneled on a read you've had for most of the game. I bet you and rayn will yell at me post-game when I flip town without so much as a "sorry for tunneling you for three days" as well. I can't convince you two of anything and the mafia will vote me with you two. With that in mind, I think I will accept my mislynch. I have already fought my way out of a lynch twice. I do not care enough about the town win condition anymore to do this a third time. | ||
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On July 03 2018 04:15 CopCake wrote: I dont know Calix’s personality 1. Like the moment I was about to be lunched I would have screamed I am a blue role lol And i would be telling HF he is mafia the very same moment he told me i am not parity cop because I know it is true and only a mafia would have reacted like that. That is why I was asking if it was w/w 2. Because like I said before, if slenderman flips town, town will lynch me inmediatly next day. 3. It is also odd that slenderman is considered the mafia and I am the town in this scenario. 1. Here are my thoughts on blue claims. This post is from a game where I was Vanilla Town: On April 14 2018 06:28 Calix wrote: I do not claim blue to save myself as either alignment. I don't do it as blue because blues who play like shit should usually be lynched and I am no exception. I don't do it as mafia because I never do it as blue so claiming a role under pressure would be a scum claim. I am explaining this because this isn't standard TL Mafia site meta. I do not care if you agree with me or not because I believe this regardless of alignment. You just need to know that this is logic I use. 2. It is LYLO. If we lynch Slenderman and he is town then it is game over. But you would be mafia in that scenario so you would already know that. 3. I am making the WILD (this is sarcasm) assumption that the person who cares about the game is town and the person who knows the game exists but doesn't care much is mafia. This is a heuristic but it is generally accurate. But you're correct on one point. It is weird that nobody gives a fuck about you. | ||
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On July 03 2018 04:30 Conversion wrote: like am I missing something here? why wouldn't we lynch into the two people that claimed the same role? My personal belief is that rayn fake-claimed but is town, and that Koshi is the doctor. The only 'strong' evidence I have for you is that if Koshi is town, then he MUST have saved rayn, yes? I'll explain a scenario where doc!Koshi 'saves' mafia!rayn and show you why it doesn't make much sense: It's possible mafia!rayn fake-claims medic and then no-shoots. But mafia!rayn would HAVE to know a real doctor was in the game (since there are always two blues with me around). So if mafia!rayn decided to no shoot with that information then he has no idea who the real doctor is going to save or whether a vigilante would shoot on N2 or anything like that. He has no real incentive to no-shoot. Basically the mafia!Koshi and mafia!rayn scenarios are TECHNICALLY possible but also make no sense. Thus I conclude both are town. If you disagree, please find my mafia!Koshi post and mafia!rayn post and tell me how my logic is wrong, please. This is very speculative so I may have missed a scenario. But I think what I say makes sense. | ||
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If I'm mafia with TWO team mates who decides (presumably in the mafia QT) to fake-claim Cop, then: 1. Why do I pick 'the worst checks of all time'? Wouldn't my mafia buddies point this out and tell me to get more believable fake cop checks? What mafia motivation do I have to pick Slenderman and CopCake of all people when I could just pick my two scum-reads? 2. Why is everyone just ignoring the cop checks aside from the guy who claimed doctor? Wouldn't my mafia buddies want to push this in the thread or something? That would be why I 'fake claimed' right? Because I'm trying to get that last mislynch. This post is WIFOM to the max but I don't give a shit. You guys haven't even considered how weird it is that (with the exception of Koshi) EVERYONE'S response to me has been "your checks suck, you suck at the game and you're mafia". Nobody is supporting me here. | ||
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On July 03 2018 04:48 CopCake wrote: I have a questiooonnnnn Can you parity cop dead people or not? No. Not that I asked because if you can then that defeats the whole point of Parity Cop. But still, no. | ||
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On July 03 2018 04:46 CopCake wrote: Mafia koshi and Mafia rayn doesnt work i think because theu are forced to shot no? And in that case it is just one blue role (which is yours) Setup states mafia can no-shoot. But if town no-lynches then mafia are forced to shoot first. Koshi/ Rayn is NEVER a team. But I'm saying neither of them are mafia. | ||
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Slenderman doesn't. This is a heuristic (I could be underestimating CopCake's mafia game and her play isn't super-townie) but it's accurate enough that I'm willing to roll with it. | ||
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On July 03 2018 04:59 CopCake wrote: Oh As mafia I am excellent. As town not so much, I am paranoid. Would you mind linking us to some of these "excellent" mafia games please? | ||
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On July 03 2018 05:01 Conversion wrote: why is your heuristic that mafia gives less fucks than town enough to the point that they have a 3 post filter in a 100+ page game My theory is that he's legitimately busy but isn't trying harder to play the game because he's mafia, him not posting much fulfills mafia win con, and he's under no pressure to do anything. | ||
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Now that you know there's a mafia between Slenderman and CopCake (or me if you think I'm lying), thoughts? On July 01 2018 09:04 TheSlenderMan wrote: I thought the Day would end tomorrow, not today :/ I see going by the last few pages that my inactivity warrants an apology. I don't know yet what has happened in the Thread, but I see a LOT of Modkills so something nasty must've happened. I only had time to read a measly ten pages. If I do get retroactively modkilled for inactivity (as some people seem to be demanding), there's probably only one useful thing I can say at this point: I feel VERY strongly that Cake is Town. Cake isn't this fortright and confident as Mafia -- she "beats up around the bush" (if that's the correct English idiom) and focuses on manipulating people but doesn't do that here. I've played with her a lot and feel VERY strongly about this read. If I had voted based on what I had read, my Vote would've gone to Calix. I really, really dislike the early Vote on Cake. Not because I disagree with the read, but because it felt really lazy, identifying Cake as a possible "low-hanging fruit" in the Thread. It didn't seem to have legitimate content-analysis to back the Vote up. Other than that his thread-presence has so far merely warranted the comment "okay-ish" in my notes, and such meek thread-presence (I've noticed) often ends up pointing to Scum. rayn has started the game pointing out the exact things I would've expected him to, in the exact tone. So I feel pretty confident in saying he's also Town here, FWIW. Of the non-modkilled early posters that leaves only Conversion and HF -- HF's start seems different compared to the last game, but not in a suspicion-raising way. "Undecided", in other words. Conversion has been relaxed slash borderline troll-y, but based on small things like #133 I'd say they are slightly more likely to be Town. Ultimately also "undecided", though. FWIW Mocsta seemed very different compared to the last game so my read of him was Town. TicTock I felt more iffy about -- the tone of the early pages Townread to me, but #105 was really bad and #108 seemed self-aware in a Mafia-like way. Regfan seemed very Town to me. Played with him a lot but that was many many years ago. As Mafia he starts painting himself in a corner very early in the game (tries to "overproduce content" in other words). There was no sight of that here, and the whole hydra-dynamic seemed not forced. | ||
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On July 03 2018 05:05 CopCake wrote: Eh The problem is that I can see Slenderman to give a fuck if he was mafia. If you believe my claim then Slenderman HAS to be mafia for you. If you don't then I'm mafia and Slenderman isn't anything. | ||
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#ritoky #ninjavoting | ||
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On July 03 2018 05:10 CopCake wrote: I love you slenderman T-T After this post I claim that Slenderman is NOT Mafia. Do you think I'm town, CopCake? ^^ | ||
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