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ShoCkeyy
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
My primary aim was to keep people having fun and playing the game, more recently games have been a lot quieter, people are busier in general and I wanted to follow the same concept as Calix so I wouldn't have to modkill anyone (hopefully). However the game didn't play out that way. In hindsight I should have absolutely modkilled TheSlenderMan after D2. The way he played would have been unacceptable in 99% of games on this site. My own inexperience and indecisiveness was at fault here. Not modkilling him definitely angered people and sapped any motivation from the town. Going forward if I host another game I would have stricter activity rules and not use the self voting system, it is too easily abused. Thank you all who stayed with the game for not modkilling yourselves and putting in a tremendous amount of effort for the first few days. I hope going forward that you play in my games (and other mafia games on TL) and I will try to do better by you all | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On July 04 2018 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes, I agree (and forgot) that Slendy should have MK after D2 no vote.No Mocsta, hte people who do not play should be removed from the game by hosts. It is simply just unfun to other people when someone does not play. I asked Kelsier, and after this permission i sent two messages to Slendy throughout the game to remind him the game is on. Like if you can't play, or don't want to play, then ask to be replaced. He didn't vote D1, he didn't vote on D2, i don't think he even posted anything during those days other than something on N1. It is fucking disrespectful towards the game, i could understand a day phase, yes, but not like a WEEK. I am not even gonna go into TT and Regfan, just hand like 5 game bans or something. Well i don't care because Regfan is not gonna play here anymore and i am never going to go into a game with TT so whatever, maybe just pat TT on back like the thing here is nowadays. Don't care. I am just putting people who ruin the game on my black list, not that i even wanna think about playing a agame of mafia right now because this one was so fucking horrible on all fronts, including myself. D3 play was within acceptable limits (defined by town) given we was alive though. Even moreso because of the parity cop claim. like even though town was certain calix was scum, they had a duty and due dilligence to investigate the viability of the claim. I cant recall this occuring by anyone. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On July 04 2018 08:43 KelsierSC wrote: I will play in ya games, we all gotta start somewhereI'd like to say a few things about the game. Firstly I want to apologise for the general standard of moderation. It was my first time running a game and to put it mildly things did not go smoothly. My primary aim was to keep people having fun and playing the game, more recently games have been a lot quieter, people are busier in general and I wanted to follow the same concept as Calix so I wouldn't have to modkill anyone (hopefully). However the game didn't play out that way. In hindsight I should have absolutely modkilled TheSlenderMan after D2. The way he played would have been unacceptable in 99% of games on this site. My own inexperience and indecisiveness was at fault here. Not modkilling him definitely angered people and sapped any motivation from the town. Going forward if I host another game I would have stricter activity rules not use the self voting system that I used in this game, it is too easily abused. Thank you all who stayed with the game for not modkilling yourselves and putting in a tremendous amount of effort for the first few days. I hope going forward that you play in my games (and other mafia games on TL) and I will try to do better by you all Thanks and much appreciated. For me, the only grievance i had was the vote counting to be honest. Its really hard to make decisions when the vote count has errors in it and updated infrequently. The MK thing is neither here or there, every game has a problem that ppl get pissed about. I mean, in the newbie eariler this yaer. Koshi replced in on D3 lol Ppl will get over it. vote counts are permanent!!  Thanks again and pleae dont be discouraged. | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
On July 04 2018 08:43 KelsierSC wrote: I'd like to say a few things about the game. Firstly I want to apologise for the general standard of moderation. It was my first time running a game and to put it mildly things did not go smoothly. My primary aim was to keep people having fun and playing the game, more recently games have been a lot quieter, people are busier in general and I wanted to follow the same concept as Calix so I wouldn't have to modkill anyone (hopefully). However the game didn't play out that way. In hindsight I should have absolutely modkilled TheSlenderMan after D2. The way he played would have been unacceptable in 99% of games on this site. My own inexperience and indecisiveness was at fault here. Not modkilling him definitely angered people and sapped any motivation from the town. Going forward if I host another game I would have stricter activity rules not use the self voting system that I used in this game, it is too easily abused. Thank you all who stayed with the game for not modkilling yourselves and putting in a tremendous amount of effort for the first few days. I hope going forward that you play in my games (and other mafia games on TL) and I will try to do better by you all no hard feelings. game was dead before that happened tbh thanks for hosting | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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Calix
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On July 04 2018 08:43 KelsierSC wrote: I'd like to say a few things about the game. Firstly I want to apologise for the general standard of moderation. It was my first time running a game and to put it mildly things did not go smoothly. My primary aim was to keep people having fun and playing the game, more recently games have been a lot quieter, people are busier in general and I wanted to follow the same concept as Calix so I wouldn't have to modkill anyone (hopefully). However the game didn't play out that way. In hindsight I should have absolutely modkilled TheSlenderMan after D2. The way he played would have been unacceptable in 99% of games on this site. My own inexperience and indecisiveness was at fault here. Not modkilling him definitely angered people and sapped any motivation from the town. Going forward if I host another game I would have stricter activity rules not use the self voting system that I used in this game, it is too easily abused. Thank you all who stayed with the game for not modkilling yourselves and putting in a tremendous amount of effort for the first few days. I hope going forward that you play in my games (and other mafia games on TL) and I will try to do better by you all Pretty much every host has one of "those" games where everything goes wrong. It's like an initiation. I can assure you that my first hosted game was similarly disastrous. In terms of improvements, I'd agree with Mocsta on vote counts as an incorrect vote count can influence opinions and interpretations of events a lot. Otherwise I think your hosting was decent on the whole. I appreciate that you took the time to consider how to improve. While I'm here, I'd like to thank you and Tubesock for taking the time to host | ||
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Vivax
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TheSlenderMan
Finland70 Posts
On July 04 2018 08:17 CopCake wrote: Because I simply couldn't. I shouldn't have signed up but I didn't know beforehand that my last week would go as horribly as it did. Slendy whyyyyyyy the first time I see you mafia you do no sht  It was dumb luck, not a grade-B mafia scheme, that I didn't get modkilled during D2. There was a couple of times during D3 where, as Town, I could've risked my neck making short, uninformed posts, despite being woefully out of loop. But I had my team to think about here and ended up getting overwhelmed by the sheer amount of catching up that needed to be done. (When added together I probably had a total of 2,5hours for the whole of D3.) Contrary to what HF thought, I didn't "read a PM" by rayn, it was a real life reminder. I'm not a regular at this site. I would've made a post about the reminder out of habit, regardless of my affiliation (and rayn's), but I do realize now that it wasn't good to muddy the game by making a comment like that, regardless of the details. I still don't know what exactly happened in this game with all the modkills. But on behalf of my own inactivity, I want to apologize one more time for any additional "vitriol" that may have been caused by it. I'm used to being the one complaining about inactivity so it annoys me a great deal that this was a no-game on my part. Also sad that things went sour, in general, as the line-up looked really fun. I would also like to say that please don't blame the hosts for the inactivity-rule here. It gets tricky trying to make the rule at the same time more effective and more specific. Every single rule is going to find an exception to it. | ||
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CopCake
4378 Posts
On July 04 2018 09:00 TheSlenderMan wrote: rayn: ok. Because I simply couldn't. I shouldn't have signed up but I didn't know beforehand that my last week would go as horribly as it did. It was dumb luck, not a grade-B mafia scheme, that I didn't get modkilled during D2. There was a couple of times during D3 where, as Town, I could've risked my neck making short, uninformed posts, despite being woefully out of loop. But I had my team to think about here and ended up getting overwhelmed by the sheer amount of catching up that needed to be done. (When added together I probably had a total of 2,5hours for the whole of D3.) Contrary to what HF thought, I didn't "read a PM" by rayn, it was a real life reminder. I'm not a regular at this site. I would've made a post about the reminder out of habit, regardless of my affiliation (and rayn's), but I do realize now that it wasn't good to muddy the game by making a comment like that, regardless of the details. I still don't know what exactly happened in this game with all the modkills. But on behalf of my own inactivity, I want to apologize one more time for any additional "vitriol" that may have been caused by it. I'm used to being the one complaining about inactivity so it annoys me a great deal that this was a no-game on my part. Also sad that things went sour, in general, as the line-up looked really fun. I would also like to say that please don't blame the hosts for the inactivity-rule here. It gets tricky trying to make the rule at the same time more effective and more specific. Every single rule is going to find an exception to it. Do you remember all those games in which i tinfoiled and called you mafia? Haha Now when it happened i didnt do it <~< | ||
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Regfan
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On June 28 2018 01:50 Regfan wrote: I'm going to bed. Regfan will hopefully be up before deadline to check in quickly and move our vote if it needs moving. Please don't lynch Calix. Just quickly, the main thing I mentioned to Regfan re: TT when he asked me to sell him on that scumread was the way that his scumreads progressed, his worlds started to become noticeably incongruent around the time he started backing off Calix. I also don't really like the way he's been catching up recently, making more personal type appeal posts to people that don't actually have anything to do with his reads or solving the game. He's probably my strongest scumread even if I don't want to lynch him today (for reasons I already went over). Would really like to see more from him and be able to interact with him real-time some to solidify my read there. We both think the way Vivax treated TT in #539 was slimy, he's the kind of player that I know I will be able to get a solid read on at some point in the game based on some reaction from him or something impulsive he does in the moment somewhere, and there are certain things from him tonally that make me shy away from super scumreading him, but he hasn't done anything to make me really want to pull him out of the lynch pool today. I only weakly scumread him and feel meh about lynching him but he's not a bad lynch. Shock's thread entrance was really icky and I dislike the things that he has been focusing on. I don't think his meta self-defense means anything for his alignment and I don't really like the way he's been making big-ish posts at the end of the dayphase here but not really interacting with anyone about reads or show me that he's actively solving the game in a meaningful way. Feel mildly annoyed that people don't want to lynch him but I don't feel strongly enough about killing him to force the issue. Koshi just hasn't done anything except sheep rayn and when I think there's a pretty high chance of at least 1 mafia in the inactives I can find exactly 0 reasons not to lynch him other than how little information it will give us. Lynch preference is Shock>Koshi>Vivax, would vote in Conversion/TT to secure a lynch that isn't Calix. -G On June 28 2018 08:38 Regfan wrote: HF, Cake, Rayn, Moscta and Calix are still all town, if you fuckwits can learn to come and work together this games still winnable. Hunt inside Vivax, Shockey, TT, GSM, Conversion and Koshi. TT did vote to save himself and at :59, timing that makes more sense for mafia to do it where there's minimal time for people to react to the vote and 5he way the EOD played out there's some worlds that he fits inside of as mafia, Vivax-TT is 100% a world people need to entertain and look inside of tomorrow. There's probably only ever 1 in Shockey/Vivax which is why Shockeys flip would have helped immensely but if you hit scum in these two would suggest moving the other to the side for a bit. Vivax / TT + 1 of Koshi/TSM sort of fits a few things. Okay you've got my thoughts albeit I've missed a lot of content from pages 30 to 50, now can feel better about leaving and never coming back to this game again. Oh and everyone that actually voted Boxer can go fuck themselves. Outtahere -R Mocsta, please please please please please please leave this site and never ever come back. I'm begging you, for your own good. Please don't stay and "learn" from these people. | ||
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Conversion
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CopCake
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On July 04 2018 09:04 Regfan wrote: Hi,Mocsta, please please please please please please leave this site and never ever come back. I'm begging you, for your own good. Please don't stay and "learn" from these people. I am interested in playing with a different culture of people; however, you shouldnt discount TL mafia as each site has their pros/cons. I think i general TL mafia relies too much on T-minus 6hours from lynch to determine wagons which is mafia-aligned in my opinion. But that aside, I am a true believer we all can "learn" from our own mislynches, and people that we mislynch. This game showed no remorse for mislynches, which is a shame. However, that is partly because it devolved into 'lord of the flies' which is a human nature thing and can apply to any site if the right ingredients occur. I actually think this is a fascinating game that has potential to be stickied. Mafia did great and I will nominate them for an award. It truly takes a lot of self-control to post the bare minimum; especially because that small quantity of post has potential to be heavily scrutinised. Its a shame you got MK out, because I think the game would have gone a different route if you were here. I look forward to play with you elsewhere in the future though! | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
From scum QT"Kill regfan" Thats genuinely annoying! | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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ShoCkeyy
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On July 04 2018 08:43 KelsierSC wrote: I'd like to say a few things about the game. Firstly I want to apologise for the general standard of moderation. It was my first time running a game and to put it mildly things did not go smoothly. My primary aim was to keep people having fun and playing the game, more recently games have been a lot quieter, people are busier in general and I wanted to follow the same concept as Calix so I wouldn't have to modkill anyone (hopefully). However the game didn't play out that way. In hindsight I should have absolutely modkilled TheSlenderMan after D2. The way he played would have been unacceptable in 99% of games on this site. My own inexperience and indecisiveness was at fault here. Not modkilling him definitely angered people and sapped any motivation from the town. Going forward if I host another game I would have stricter activity rules and not use the self voting system, it is too easily abused. Thank you all who stayed with the game for not modkilling yourselves and putting in a tremendous amount of effort for the first few days. I hope going forward that you play in my games (and other mafia games on TL) and I will try to do better by you all I am a big fan of not modkilling people ever. But replace inactives after Eod1. Let town deal with it. It is only a problem when 4 people only make 2 posts during an entire game. This gane there was 1 person with 4 posts and some with 20 pages of filter and they were read wrong. PoE is a good tool. Dnu. I hate modkills. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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Calix
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I think the same thing is happening with TL Mafia where you're having the problem of "the playerbase is small so if the rules are too harsh then there won't be enough players because they would all be banned for inactivity/ bad behaviour. But if we don't punish people for those things then the bad quality of games will drive away players." If a solution exists to this problem then I have yet to find it. | ||
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