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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Also no lynch would have been so good. Koshi wouldn't be dead and confirmed mafia. Calix would be rb and very likely town. Slender would have been forced to post or modkilled and confirmed mafia. Two confirmed mafia so good. Then shockeyy just gets revealed through poe. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Haha thanks for compliment b4. You gonna critque my game concept in active games thread, please? I would like to start sign ups ASAP | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On July 01 2018 07:55 Mocsta wrote: dont forget And dont forget about koshi Now byebye  I wont claim this as anything given how quickly i disbanded it in the obsqt lolprob more out of butthurt haha | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
On July 04 2018 17:55 Calix wrote: I think people should stop taking what people say in games to heart. Mafia’s an emotional game and people are prone to saying stupid things that they don’t ACTUALLY mean when frustrated, angry, etc. Granted I say this because I have a harder time refraining from BM comments when playing mafia but a bit of frustration in a game is to be expected IMO. I don’t think that’s necessarily bad. Part of mafia’s job is to rile up town so their decision making skills are compromised. Also most people seem perfectly fine and pleasant outside of the game. I actually spent a lot of time thinking Conversion was mafia because he was being such a dick so soon after we had cohosted together. And I thought that he was deliberately being inflammatory to push mafia agenda ^^ I would say that if someone repeatedly keeps insulting people, starts attacking their personal characteristics or if someone asks them to stop and they don’t then that’s when it becomes a problem. I don’t think I was particularly being a dick out of turn though? Not excusing myself, but I generally tried to keep the aggressiveness isolated to the game. The one thing I could think of was my comment towards rayn. It’s annoying when people tell you you're being toxic when I was trying my best not to, and Holyflare had to tell Tictock I wasn’t even being toxic this game, and HF definitely knows how shitty I get playing mafia. I definitely still need more work in not being an asshole. and not giving up on the game I suppose | ||
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Conversion
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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On July 04 2018 22:44 Conversion wrote: also I’m still confused as to why rayn didn’t counterclaim Koshi.. can someone explain to me He thought koshi was protecting him by saying he saved him and would be shot the next day. If we no lynched koshi wouldn't be dead and he'd be definitely mafia and we'd still have the actual medic alive and the parity. | ||
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Vivax
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CopCake
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One of the things that made me believe he was town is because how pasive he was <~< considering how aggresive he was in the drawing game. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Just weird/funny because the correct team was poe'd and mentioned a lot of times. There just wasnt enough peace between townies. Town circles with people 100% trusting each other should be a thing again. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 04 2018 12:57 AMG wrote: This would have been a great person to rally behind. I don't see any point in a list like that, especially if you modkill yourself jsut because.... idk over.... literally nothing. I mean like, if it is too hard to play when someone dares to scumread you or doesn't play liek you want them to up to point where you modkill yourself then bye bye, go waste someone else's time. Rude but true. Like noone was even being CLOSE to mean towards them..... It is not surprising other sites have replacement rate of something like 30% (on top of my head), if you don't like the way the game is going, fuck arguing, you can just replace or get modkilled, and noone cares. wow such competitive game. I am sincerely sorry Calix, you were probably the best (and only good) town player this game, i fucked up.  You did a couple of critical things after which i couldn't jsut change my mind, idk, maybe it's my fault, maybe both of us, since talking with someone or to someone is not a one-way street in this game. I genuinely think your case on Shockeyy was very bad on N1, since you said he should make a conclusion on something he could never gain anything from in case he is town. I also believe the best and only play you should have done N2 is to check me, D3 is lylo and you knew it, you were under suspicion, you want to 100% confirm something imo, always. I made a terrible read on Shockeyy D1 yeah, ironically maybe 2 years ago i would have insta-lynched Shockeyy for that opening post, but people have told me over the past years i should get out of "lynching dumb", which i find out to be less succesful strategy overall. It has happened a couple of times now so the next game and ever after i lynch all dumb. More likely to be mafia and less likely i end up playing a disaster game like this myself. Oh i also scumread you (in the end) because you claimed to be town jesus but all game acted something completely opposite (especially since you were blue). Meh.. i see your point in the end but still. It doesn't change the fact i fucked up and you did not.Well done Koshi, applying the sicklucker strategy. It was a good one and i knew exactly what mistake mafia did come D3, i never considered you town, but you were also never the D3 lynch (and because Slendy was not either for Calix' check and i thought Shockeyy was town because Calix had to be mafia, pfff.. ). The setup is what it is. My role did not say i can't heal myself so i healed myself. Arguing that because in some game (now i am not saying mafia did this or does so now) medic cant heal themselves they should not be allowed now is bs, the setup is what it is.I come overly aggressive right after games because i hate losing. I hate nothing more than losing. So i am sorry if i offended someone in my comments after the game (Regfan, TT and Slendy i couldn't care fucking less though). I blame myself for a loss, most of the times. Maybe i blame 20% Holyflare here, just because of those two lynches i still have no idea what happened there, and the 24 hours of D2.... Well, my bad, i should have know better. Sorry for the loss. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 04 2018 22:45 Holyflare wrote: He thought koshi was protecting him by saying he saved him and would be shot the next day. If we no lynched koshi wouldn't be dead and he'd be definitely mafia and we'd still have the actual medic alive and the parity. this is not true. mafia can always kill me and rb calix even if koshi is the real medic. i was planning to write a post where i say Koshi is like 80% mafia i die instead of him just before the next day. It was a good play from him as either alignment. No-lynch doesn't solve anything since the same thing can just happen. Like you can do (if Koshi is medic): N3 - kill rayn rb Calix (Koshi cant heal me) N4 - kill Calix rb Koshi (Calix dies 100%) N5 - kill Koshi no more checks no more saves guaranteed | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On July 05 2018 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: this is not true. mafia can always kill me and rb calix even if koshi is the real medic. i was planning to write a post where i say Koshi is like 80% mafia i die instead of him just before the next day. It was a good play from him as either alignment. No-lynch doesn't solve anything since the same thing can just happen. Like you can do (if Koshi is medic): N3 - kill rayn rb Calix (Koshi cant heal me) N4 - kill Calix rb Koshi (Calix dies 100%) N5 - kill Koshi no more checks no more saves guaranteed If mafia kill you over a "confirmed" medic that stopped their nk then fuck me I'd lynch myself. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Alsooooooooo never in over 100 games has medic been able to heal themselves so it's absolutely non-standard. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On July 05 2018 06:52 Holyflare wrote: Thats a legitimate point.It's also really annoying you said I played badly when my list post was 100% correct for my town reads after the BF lynch which you heavily criticised. Any read I wavered on was largely because you kept repeating I was trash and how correct you were. Rayn had town cred D1, and this was amplified on D2 because of the medic claim. As the game dragged on, Rayn was absent more and more; yet continuing to push his reads into the thread as the defacto leader. Man.. tough game. As i mentioned before, I wouldnt lynch Boxerfred again for two reasons: (1) I think a lot of the neck-wrangling didnt start because of mafia; rather, it had to do with the ethics of Boxerfred. Pople like Conversion and Copcake had genuine personal issues with this lynch and struggled to compute the mindset was from town (ironically all 4 voters); and in this game, conversion/copcake were critical for voting block adhesion. (2) People needed closure on the Day1 lynch that was based on people having a strong scum read, not some randomised crap shoot. I hate to say it, but if Calix was lynched Day1, I think a lot of the town group could mentally move forward and consider other options. I still think this was a great game.. i mean.. 130+pages and no mafia lynched.. what an effort regardless of whether town was on the brink of being able to solve it. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 05 2018 06:52 Holyflare wrote: It's also really annoying you said I played badly when my list post was 100% correct for my town reads after the BF lynch which you heavily criticised. Any read I wavered on was largely because you kept repeating I was trash and how correct you were. Everyone was "mostly correct" on D1 on townreads, just because there was no reason to townread EDIT: Like yes, after game talk, bf lynch was not bad, even if Shockeyy was the counter wagon, i do not blame you for that fully even though i still do not understand why did you do that (especially since i sheeped you as i did not have time anymore), but the D2 lynch was like ????????????? Why? Yeah you prolly had your reasons to lynch Mocsta but please do not say you got annoyed because "your list was correct" and it annoyed you i was a dick as you lynched outside your list, for idk why.. You most likely genuinely did yeah, and acted like it, but can you imagine what does that do to me in a game (when i also thought Calix is mafia as i did on D2 aswell)? I even pled to you on the first part of D2 and you - while being active - went all "well idk i have no scumreads". idk why i should have thought you are town at that point. isk, if i should have, tell me, i wanna know where i did the mistake there, since i can't understand how i should know otherwise as i thought Calix is mafia. It fit perfectly (just make it to N2 and kill the claimed medic and coast from there on). idk man, you had good reads in a list, but it didn't translate anywhere imo. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 05 2018 07:15 Mocsta wrote: Thats a legitimate point. Rayn had town cred D1, and this was amplified on D2 because of the medic claim. I think both of these points are not good. I didn't have town credit D1. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On July 05 2018 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: You did 2 me ; and in my world at that time, that was all that mattered I think both of these points are not good. I didn't have town credit D1. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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