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I caught two scum.
rayn is already under fire and has much to answer to so I'll vote GB. | ||
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On April 08 2018 18:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: And why was it relevant to GB's alignment to group me and eversince there? Yeah i don't understand this at all | ||
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On April 08 2018 22:04 Calix wrote: What you need to know is that I caught rayn bullshitting about his supposed "mafia read" on me. #177 best case in the game, hands down. As for your post, Skynx, I do not understand scum motivation for GB giving a reason to exit the thread, only just to violate this rule while under no pressure to do so. Mafia would be more likely to just give a reason and piss off. Keeps their story straight and means they have an excuse to not post innit. I mean why lie about why you are going away if you're town though? | ||
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On April 08 2018 20:37 Vivax wrote: Why not? I also wasn't scum leaning GB particularly. I found his post there defensive and that's it. Damdred came out with a hard townread and I gave him something that would possibly oppose his view, and I found his reaction townie all around. Although with fresh eyes today it probably doesn't mean that much. Was just going off the assumption that mafia Damdred would keep himself the option open for a GB lynch. Will roll with it for the time being though. Where is this quote from? | ||
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On April 08 2018 22:04 Calix wrote: What you need to know is that I caught rayn bullshitting about his supposed "mafia read" on me. #177 best case in the game, hands down. As for your post, Skynx, I do not understand scum motivation for GB giving a reason to exit the thread, only just to violate this rule while under no pressure to do so. Mafia would be more likely to just give a reason and piss off. Keeps their story straight and means they have an excuse to not post innit. What about points on rayn? | ||
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On April 08 2018 22:18 Calix wrote: As I understand it, you're accusing him of asking questions with no follow-up, particularly with regards to something about Damdred (?) and his posts towards currentlyhomeless. I think it's a valid point but then again, I am biased ![]() Thats basically his intro to the thread, he's trying to appear as doing something but its actually two pointless questions which are then abandoned. | ||
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Nvm i found it. On April 08 2018 18:08 Calix wrote: Have access to a keyboard, thank God. Vivax might be mafia because of how he went about his GB read. First he says that "GB saying he can't post for a while after posting a bunch at the start of the day reads defensive to me" which is typically a mafia trait, and when Damdred questions this read and implies a negative view of Vivax because of it ("kinda a meh read from you"), Vivax's reaction is to call both GB AND Damdred town. Weird progression. As I see it, it's one of these scenarios: A) Vivax was always town-reading GB, in which case why did he make the comment about GB being defensive? B) Vivax was scum-leaning GB until Damdred made a point about why it isn't scummy, then Vivax changed his mind. But then why would you say "yeah he's town"? That's not the response you'd make if someone had changed your mind. C) Some other scenario I haven't accounted for. However the two I listed were the ones that came to mind when I first read the exchange. So yes, I'd like an explanation. I also don't see how the reason he gave for Damdred being town ("I don't see why you wouldn't partially agree with me if you were mafia") is AI. I agree that GlowingBear is more likely town than not. His posting reads as spontaneous and unplanned to me. As for his case on me, it's dumb because I DID respond to his vote (after he actually gave reasons) and Eversince's assumption that it was a spite vote was more interesting than a naked vote. I also want a response from Eversince that clarifies that random town-read she doled out to one of GB/ Calix. Both GB and I asked about that and she ignored both queries to post some irrelevant nonsense. So I am asking again. Yeah Vivax' response is a bit weird. It looks like he has an idea that makes Damdred town in his own world but it doesn't really relate to GB. Not sure its scummy though. | ||
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On April 08 2018 10:21 Damdred wrote: Yeah but why is it defensive if he is busy irl, thats kinda a meh read from you vivax. But really I feel like his thing hes doing with the thing he noticed about calix and dragging ever and rayn into it just seems town to me. Town for GB he generally cant fake enthusiasm like that as scum by my recollevtion. Damdred looks good for Vivax part here but i don't agree with bolded. | ||
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I'm scumread rayn cuz those two questions are unlikely to come from town. If town posts such questions he's likely to follow them up cuz town would be actually interested in the answers. My take is rayn posted them cuz i dunno why the fuck, probably trying to appear townie in the intro. | ||
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On April 09 2018 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: On Eversince and Damdred. they both were wanting to engage each other then it jsut dropped off. That's where i left to when i got to work. I found it weird there was no progression on that conversation. Then i realized Eversince said she was drunk and relying on someone else's internet and both of them stopped posting (aka possibly went to sleep). So yeah, it doesn't make them anything. On the smurf dude. They joined relatively close to each other with noobking. And this guy started talking about setups pre-game (which is something noobking apparently is very concerned of regardles of his affiliation). I thought there is a high chance he is from the same place he is from, which obviously affects on what to expect of him and what not in comparison to TL players. I actually kept on what i was pushing until he basically said he is a smurf and that's when i dropped it. Ok, that works. | ||
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On April 09 2018 06:58 Tubesock wrote: Skynx, I feel like your case on GB and Rayn was 1/2 trolly 1/2 real. Rayne answered you, and you seem appeased. Are you townreading him? Have your thoughts on GB changed at all? I’m comfortable townreading Rayne and GB. Calix I don’t know about. I didn’t agree with any of the Rayne criticism and they seemed a tad nit picky. It reminded me of noobking in my last game (noob was scum). But I do like the activity and she seems to be looking at everything. I thought my case was fine at the time it was posted (4-5 pages of content). It's a bit late but rayn and GB can be town for now yes, as they seem to be picked up the game. | ||
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On April 09 2018 15:55 GlowingBear wrote: Skynx, can you explain your thought process behind the statement bolded in italic? I wanted you to pick up the game, you seemed troll mode up to that point. If you call my case shitty, yours on Vivax was even worse. I wanted rayn to pick up the game aswell but he got into a shit-stirring fight with Calix a page behind for reasons i didn't really comprehend. That seemed enough pressure on him to force him play. | ||
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On April 10 2018 02:37 Vivax wrote: Really? Somehow your conclusions go the opposite of mine as GB to me looked townier earlier than what he does now that he's gone full lazy mode. But it'd be good if you could catch up and deliver your guess. Sidenote: N00bking still only talking about ES claim. I explained it badly. GB (and rayn) look towny around p16-17, after i went away. It's a bit late because a lot may have happened since then. | ||
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On April 09 2018 21:07 Vivax wrote: I'm catching up would appreciate if thread didn't go instantly empty once I'm done. Highlights from the reread as well: Don't like Skynx entry. Tonal argument: His way of going in is very different from the rest of the thread up until that point and reads almost excessively tryhard to me. Entire post looks like he just didn't know what to do besides forced scumhunting. Content arguments: Also I don't believe he actually would believe to have caught skynx just off timestamps as town. His rayn points are all meta and don't leave any wiggle room for a rayn town argument when he said he doesn't post more from work. Basically skynx entrance screams all lazy mafia trying to look tryhard. Moving on. I don't like this. You were around when i wrote this case and could pick up on all the points here at the time. Instead you waited an entire day to bring up again why my case is bad? After half of the thread said the same thing? | ||
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On April 10 2018 03:21 Vivax wrote: Except I don't always pay attention to everything at once and when you posted it I didn't read it thoroughly as I did today. Why do people always bring the argument that someone is scummy cause he doesn't have the attention span of a savant? Nice try. You really don't have to be a savant to read the thread and come up with the conclusions you did in this case lol. You are parroting Tube, GB, rayn and i don't know who else who called my case shit. | ||
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On April 10 2018 03:29 Oatsmaster wrote: What do you think about damdred and skynx then? They also wanna lynch calix and they are objectively worse than me I don't want to lynch Calix? | ||
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On April 10 2018 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I really dont like Vivax lynch. If i have to i will save him by voting Skynx but i dont really think he is mafia either. I would suggest strongly against voting for Calix. I have no idea about what noobking is because i dont rrally feel like he has said much anything. Glowingbear started being terr8ble but thats probably town terrible. I still want to lynch exo for what i have said earlier. ##unvote ##vote exo_ What makes you think the bolded? | ||
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On April 10 2018 03:40 Calix wrote: Skynx I don't get why you now think Vivax isn't a mafia wagon when you had this quote interaction where you seemed more hostile to him than anything else. Please explain the progression in your Vivax read. On April 10 2018 03:28 Skynx wrote: Actually nvm, that's your re-entry into thread and thats fine. I thought that was like after you exchanged some conversation and only came up with that. | ||
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1) Sheep ES. 2) Him scumreading Oats. 3) All the talk about how claim doesn't make ES town and he can be lynched. Mafia making a blind claim when he was so far from danger is actually impossible. | ||
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?? You're talking about the vet claim? | ||
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On April 10 2018 04:18 Holyflare wrote: The mafia vet claim that claimed hours before he needed to that turned out to be a mafia veteran, yes. Ah i see, implying mafai gunsmith is possible | ||
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On April 10 2018 04:17 Vivax wrote: Voted N00bking. If I was wrong on Skynx this is the time to find it out. And also I don't want to be the lynch. Lol what how do i look more town here? | ||
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GB is trying to save n00b goddamit | ||
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On April 10 2018 18:42 Eversince wrote: At this point I wish I was just VT because mafia might just leave me alive for you guys to mislynch. But I'm going to give the gun to Rayn. I hope he doesn't shoot Calix but if he does then ok. I think she is town but I trust his judgement better. Which gun? Aren't you yet to make one tonight? | ||
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HF is on equal grounds with Oats right now, came out guns blazing out of his earlygame trolling. Constantly pushing people and reading his stuff kinda makes sense right now. As long as he's playing like this I'm not lynching him. I think GB is town here. I tried to read him like he was mafia but it just didn't fit together. His general attitude and approach to the game is pretty towny imo. + Show Spoiler + On April 10 2018 00:12 GlowingBear wrote: I must say our votecount looks terrible. Here is a list of people that we should be lynching today: 1. Skynx 4. ExO_ 6. Eversince 7. currentlyhomeless 8. Calix 12. Vivax 13.Damdred In order of my preference: Skynx is the best option. He came to the thread, made a very bad case and instead of choosing his most scumread, he voted me because "rayn had a lot of questions to answer". This is not a townie thought process. A town lynches the scummiest and votes the scummiest. Also, he just peaced out of the game. Vivax doesn't sound like Vivax. Not contributive. Not chasing information in thread. Exo sounds so emotionally dettached from the game. Also calling me out without further pursuing me was weird. He isn't really commenting on the hot topics of the thread, but mostly following his own agenda. Calix, I don't know. I can see her changing her POV on rayn and me. But it feels so weird. Especially when rayn attacks her agreeing with me she looked scummy, then she also scumreads him, and then they both drop their scumreads in a flinch. Currentlyhomeless, currentlyuseless. Damdred, he is simply not playing the game and I hate it. This is an alright list (except exo i guess i don't an opinion on him right now). He keeps bringing up why me and Vivax are scum, trying to convince people to actually lynch us. I can see why stuff on Calix makes sense in his world if he's so keen on seeing my case as shit. I also don't think his eod switch would come from mafia when i go back to evaluate it. Just sit on me comfortably right? My case was shit and lots of scumread on me, no one is going to blame him if he just stayed. He's just town. ES i guess we just have to believe his claim for now. His paranoia and stress can be faked (well not faked but if i actually claimed and fucked up like that thats the only move left to do) but I find it genuine. Plus yeah claiming there is really bad if you're mafia. And i liked his defence of me against Tube before he claimed. | ||
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I'll spend a good deal reading Calix, Vivax and Exo when I'm done with work. I feel like mafia is lurking there by process of elimination, since Damdy and homeless are coinflips. | ||
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On April 11 2018 06:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have to look at the votes again tomorrow but Skynx can actually be hipster mafia. There are a couple of things that strike me super odd like: the first thing never happened and he himself saved Vivax. Also I find it kinda funny i find it kinda sad that noobking got lynched with none of the voters aside Vivax having any sort of case on him. Apparently Skynx and Exo sheeped this perfect case: Now really good night. Sorry about the ES thing I messed up timestamps myself this time.. I dunno how me saving Vivax is relevant with your (particularly absent) tr of Vivax. I did have my reason for lynching noobking albeit not a case. I also like your stuff on Damdred, which rest of the thread is kinda sleeping on. You can be town for now. | ||
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On April 09 2018 21:43 Calix wrote: That has nothing to do with anything I said. I was talking about how his early posts were not coherent. n00bking made his 'I agree that rayn's posts are hard to understand' early on in his catch-up. The quality of his later posts is irrelevant (✿ヘᴥヘ) And don't think just because you asked a rhetorical question about rayn means I'm going to forget that cute evasion of my own question (ʘ‿ʘ✿) If I have false reasons for accusing rayn then how am I town again??? Especially since you ALSO accused me of being full of shite and 'inventing facts' to attack you (◕‿◕✿) Again just disagreement over rayn being "coherent" coherent or whatever. Nothing to imply a scumlean even. On April 09 2018 21:58 Calix wrote: His evasion of his weird-arse read on me. He called my reasons for scum!rayn "false". He had also accused me of making facts up to scum-read him. WHY DOES HE THINK I'M TOWN? None of this makes vivax scum. Then proceeds to sheep this: On April 09 2018 22:00 Holyflare wrote: Town read on gb and damdred Town read on you for something he doesn't agree with Mafia reads calix but then just says unemotionally she's not mafia and is in fact town. Town reads rayn. Town reads a million people for free. Where is paranoia? Where is scum reads? This further evolves into "I want Vivax dead", like out of nowhere? On April 10 2018 02:20 Calix wrote: I meant with wagons. Vivax/ Skynx tied. Calix/ n00b two votes. I would imagine there's a mafia on the line somewhere. I concluded Vivax because his wagon is the one that's most static and somehow hasn't exceeded three votes despite few people properly town-reading or going out on a leg to defend him. bolded has been discussed before but its super scummy taking into consideration her earlier heavy scumread of vivax. She then proceeds to townread both me and vivax out of tone, leaving noob as her only implied scumread but she doesn't vote??? | ||
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On April 12 2018 02:23 Calix wrote: An impressive number of falsehoods in this post. - That first post was demanding an answer to a question, not making a case. Anyone reading the post would realise this. - I didn't sheep HF's posts. - I didn't scum-read n00b. - I didn't town-read Vivax and you because of tone. Did you actually read my filter or were you hoping nobody would check? Your post doesn't even make sense as a narrative since none of the 'evidence' provided shows anything weird about my Vivax progression. And most of it is based on shit that isn't true at all. Amazing. Saying it's ""super scummy"" multiple times won't make it so. Where exactly you ever scumread Vivax? Vivax/ Skynx tied. Calix/ n00b two votes. I would imagine there's a mafia on the line somewhere After tr'ing me and Vivax, that leaves only n00b as a scumread.You purely townread me for tone. Not gona look for it now but "he seems genuinely lost" something along those lines. If you didn't townread Vivax for tone can you please show why you cleared him? | ||
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On April 12 2018 02:22 Holyflare wrote: Why you just repeating things, Skynx? Cuz im a day behind | ||
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On April 12 2018 02:32 Calix wrote: I scum-read Vivax for most of the time in the hours leading up to EOD. And then got stupid paranoid about votes and changed my mind. Again, if you actually read my filter then you would know this already, lol. That was more of a hypothetical point. I didn't literally have a POE with you three. But I can see someone think I scum-read n00b from that. I have read your filter. I know you scumread him towards EoD but I didn't see any reason to scumread vivax other than that one thing i quoted, I wanna know where you begin scumreading him. If those are the actual reasons its super bad. If not thats why i implied a HF sheep cuz you voted around the same time when HF was getting a train going. lol bullshit, "I would imagine there's a mafia on the line somewhere" then including those names means you think there is a scum between the four. Then you proceed to clear two of 4, one is you and then you now say n00b wasn't a scumread... | ||
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Although I don't think they are ever mafia together with Calix. | ||
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On April 12 2018 03:11 Calix wrote: Think you're the first person who hasn't jumped to WICKED MAD bussing theories. You are scum-reading the townie of the two of us but you at least acknowledge it's not SvS. Baby steps. I don't think its svs because you brought up most of the points why his vote sucked at the time even before n00b flipped. Hard to bus like that without reason. | ||
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On April 12 2018 03:15 Calix wrote: Alright. May I ask why you still town-read Eversince? As in, why do you not find the point about the NK/ daypost discrepancy to be suspicious? I agree with i dunno who brought it up that Eversince should just be ignored. After screwing up the claim like that either alignment knows he fucked up and will react like he did. Impossible to reach a conclusion and he's completely untrustworthy whatever he does from now on. What to do with him I'm not really sure though. | ||
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On April 12 2018 03:25 Calix wrote: I'd argue that leaving Eversince alive is extremely risky and will distract town when it comes to scum-reads and making worlds. Because you will always be unsure whether she is legitimate or not. And unless we lynch a Roleblocker then this will not sort itself out. If you think situation is messy now then just think about potential LYLO scenarios. The fact that she's done LESS game-solving since she claimed is also quite damning IMO. Who is your 'POE' for third mafia? Town shouldn't get distracted by his input. Right now he is a true 50/50 for reasons i just said. We probably just lynch him only after lynching two mafia and pretend he doesn't play the game, although its kinda rude. There is a chance he gets confirmed before lylo, if we lynch rb or rb targets someone else or other claims make gs impossible/highly improbable etc. so i think that is the better play here. | ||
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Heard mixed reviews, i still play diablo 2. | ||
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On April 12 2018 03:52 Calix wrote: Who do you think COULD be third mafia by Process Of Eliminating the people you think are town. Thx. I'm still yet to have an opinion on Vivax and homeless, tube is also null to me right now, probably one of them (and/or ES). I'll actually just put out what i have atm: HF, Oats, rayn tube, vivax, homeless Damdred, Calix/Exo (tvs) ignore: ES I'll definitely won't lynch into my town pile until 1 mafia is left and/or ES is dead. I've never actually played with scum!hf. scum!oats and scum!rayn fooled me once i think, so there are player capable of pulling off what they did so far as scum but I won't consider that possibility until dire need. | ||
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I'll be applying some paint early tomorrow and have the rest of the day off for it to dry so i should be around most of the day leaving me plenty of time to do that. | ||
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On April 12 2018 07:05 Holyflare wrote: And actually calix isn't so much of a scum read if es is mafia. Rayn is a town read. why calix and es can't be together? | ||
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On April 12 2018 09:19 Tubesock wrote: If you guys don’t want to off vote ES cause you don’t think Calix is mafia, then fine let’s kill Skynx. Or Exo or Damdred. I’ll support that but you’re all making a mistake on ES. I don't see how you still scumread me when we scumread exact same people. | ||
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On April 12 2018 20:36 ExO_ wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 12 2018 03:20 Skynx wrote: I agree with i dunno who brought it up that Eversince should just be ignored. After screwing up the claim like that either alignment knows he fucked up and will react like he did. Impossible to reach a conclusion and he's completely untrustworthy whatever he does from now on. What to do with him I'm not really sure though. I think almost everyone here has had an opinion on ES, that's he's either more likely telling the truth, or he's scum. Skynkx is avoiding giving an opinion all together here and his scum list has just turned into whatever he can throw together. afk Damdred, and just throwing me and Calix together. I'm pretty sold, Skynkx is scum. Are you dumb or having reading disorder? | ||
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On April 12 2018 20:40 ExO_ wrote: So your scum read is Damdred (who's afk) and either me or Calix. What's the case for me, what's the case for Calix? Does it matter to you who is considered scum,? If you think Calix is scum you should 100% be town reading me. I'm sheeping rayn case on Damdred, everything he says sounds about right. On April 11 2018 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: I agree with your stuff on Calix. There was and is never anything wrong in my case on Exo. Furthermore the dude came in before the lynch and just casually asked "why is rayn scumreading me" when it says so in my post where i voted for him. But he was still aware of the wagons and had actually managed to read the thread well enough to make a judgement call on who to lynch, aka reading the thread but still not reading the thread, whatever suits him. Saying i should townread him because he does stupid shit as town too is just a nonsense defense. Then he adds me and Damdred to his scumreads because we "havent been playing much". Well actually he only adds me and Damdred is just "worrying". Funny thing is i have over twice the filter the dude himself has. Never says anything about why Vivax is town other than Vivax feels town. That is not a read. I understand people scumreading Vivax if you don't know Vivax, i don't understand people townreading Vivax if they don't know Vivax at all, especially with reasoning "Vivax feels town". Let's see what the filter dive on noobking and Skynx reveals: This is not a scumread. None of this is saying why noobking is mafia. And Skynx, yeah apparently there was no Skynx filter dive after all..... Someone said i scumread Damdred because Damdred is afk. That can't be further away from truth. I scumread Damdred because at the time he dropped his vote on Calix there was no reason to think Calix is mafia. Damdred will never ever as town vote for "one of the wagons", hell he will instead get lynched himself voting for his scumread, and he tends to post a list for "end game credits" or some other shit like that. Based on his last scumgame it's not even out of reality that he votes for his scumbuddy. But i have a very hard time seeing how the vote on Calix at that time is in any way justified. But it's okay, Damdred will probably have a good asnwer to this when he comes to the thread next time. Another thing is that after voting Calix Damdred is more interested in telling why i look bad rather than why the person he is voting for looks bad or is mafia, and some other random stuff like Skynx wagon looks like something i don't even understand. And how often Damdred says "I disagree on vivax. But I am often wrong". Dude is just trying to save Vivax from a votecount that looks "horrendous for town" (Vivax and Skynx leading -- Calix third), and that's all he can come up with? Okay. I don't really have anything to say about kush. Dude is just probably mafia. Still hasn't done anything. ----- And vivax is town because he actually fights for the stuff he says and gets angry when he tries to explain something and people dont get/believe what he says. Holyflare, it is very easy to get annoyed with you, because you can be really annoying -- i don't mean in a bad way but when you are super pushy it feels super annoying. Vivax still tries. And tries. Like i said, mafia!Vivax with 90% certainty wouldn't give a fuck and just drop dead, because that's what mafia!Vivax does. You can think he is mafia ll you want, you can think i am mafia all you want for my "flip-floppy" or whatever bullshit you said read on him. And i don't care but that's what i think. I am also very fucking sorry i work exactly the last 8-10 hours of any phase so you better lynch me or shoot me dead then because the fact is i am not going to be around as much as any of your fucking highnesses would like me to on any eod. If you've actually read my filter like you promissed 2 days ago you'll find out my arguments against you and Calix. Go do your job lol | ||
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On April 12 2018 20:43 currentlyhomeless wrote: this right here is so weird like all 3 of you, tube exo voting calix yet somehow you all read each other scum someone help me figure that out i dont get it ever is scum so by definition at least one of you 3 has to be town. yet you think ever is town and calix is scum, so...???? which one of you is just stupid? i'm not townreading ever read my filter | ||
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On April 12 2018 20:51 currentlyhomeless wrote: “ignore” is not a valid choice wtf like there is no way both Calix and Ever are scum here. since ever is scum that basically makes Calix 100% town. i think the only world where they are both scum is if damdred is scum and afk that is well possible, I don't see why ever!scum makes calix town. | ||
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On April 10 2018 02:25 ExO_ wrote: I don’t even know right now. I dont like any of the options after eversince. I switched vote to n00bking because I believe Vivax is town. Id rather be paired up with Vivax and claimed gunsmith eversince than GB and TS at this point. Gonna filter dive skynk and n00bking right now on my lunch break Yep right around here. Vivax (3), Skynx (3), Calix (2), n00b (1) You townread vivax for "towny vibes" On April 09 2018 21:08 ExO_ wrote: mixed feelings on Vivax, and low post count doesn’t help, but his thoughts on Calix and the reaction he had when Calix responded feel townie to me On April 09 2018 22:05 ExO_ wrote: The impression I get is this: He thinks you’re wrong, but that it doesn’t make you scum. However the language both of you are using has looked like its getting more heated. In particular right now you seem really frustrated and angry Calix I’ll take another look at Vivaxs filter but he seems towny to me. In the mean time, what do you think of Holyflare right now Calix? That I'll take another look at filter never happens. And earlier you have this on Damdred: On April 09 2018 21:44 ExO_ wrote: Damdred has essentially said nothing. He has one post greater than a sentence, and its saying that he doesnt think GB could fake enthusiam. The Damdred I remember is wordy and analytical. He’s not present at all right now. I could see scum Damdred coasting the first couple days, and then try to make some excuse for it Having all in that into consideration, 1) You have no opinion on Calix other than :his stuff with vivax sounds tvt" despite disagreeing on multiple stuff when she's on 2 votes, there is also this+ Show Spoiler + On April 10 2018 04:17 Calix wrote: We could like, vote ExO or something. A lot of people here think he's scummy but he's never really gained traction. 2) I'm the lead wagon but you say you gona filter dive me and you don't, you don't want to vote me cuz of other two ppl who you also don't have an opinion on 3) You vote n00b before you filterdive him just because Vivax votes him (who unvotes before you vote, when he's on 1 vote, when you filter dive him you only come up with this + Show Spoiler + On April 10 2018 02:41 ExO_ wrote: Enlighten me, why do you want to lynch me? I have 20 minutes left on my lunch. And side note trying to read n00bking filter is obonoxious as hell. I’ve never quite seen somebody consantly feel the need to use 20 words when 2 would suffice. Loves to bash TL mafia and toot his own horn like he’s the second coming in TL mafia, but isn’t really helping anybody. Its very hard to be objective towards him with this attitude. And any good player would know that constantly filling the thread with your own ego is more of a distraction to town than it is helping them. 4) In the end you seem to have more reason to scumread damdred than anyone yet you don't vote him Doesn't add up, your vote on n00b is terrible, it basically comes out of thin air. Calix can't be scum with you cuz she brought some of these up at some point | ||
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On April 12 2018 20:54 Holyflare wrote: She was the first to initially make a case on es which would have lynched es if she didn't claim. Now she's on the es wagon. There's a possibility that she could be mafia with es and I think my points still hold but I'm reserving judgement for now. hmm fair point | ||
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On April 11 2018 01:35 Vivax wrote: I can count Damdred, rayn and ES (if the claim is reason for you that she's obvious townie although I'd await what happens next first) . You are basically the only guy he's leaving alone. Hipster reads like this, you throw them away like candies. You townread Damdred for whatever reason while damdy was around in first hours of the game. This is the second mention of Damdred in the filter after calling for damdred to be more active nearly 3 days ago... then you just incliude a random Damdred townread out of nowhere??? Is there a coherent thought process behind your scum pile? Something like "lol does these actually makes sense with eachother" ? I wanna know how you go between these two and now that you're voting ES, who does that clear and why/ On April 11 2018 02:26 Vivax wrote: Holyflare/Calix/Kush ggnore On April 11 2018 10:39 Vivax wrote: HF/Rayn/Calix my current guess with chance of skynx somewhere. on rayn sr: On April 11 2018 06:02 Vivax wrote: Great question considering the way he posted it he could do anything just like yesterday cause that ExO vote really sucked purely cause it was never going to happen the way he went about it. 180ing my read on rayn right now. I will pick up where GB stopped. But I think the team is somewhere along rayn/Calix/HF or rayn/HF/kush in light of recent events. Mostly cause it leads to the NK making sense. Calix stopped posting abruptly and should be the first lynch. Her or HF. Either way calix is being thrown under the bus heavily here and doesn't need to keep playing. This is pretty much saying "I'm scumreading x, these must be scum team in light of recent events" no reasoning for the scumreads except the bolded. I mean isn't this where you point out whats wrong with nk's and how they relate to rayn being scum? Or perhaps explain the recent events? on clearing homeless: On April 11 2018 10:38 Vivax wrote: But CH is town 100 % at least that much is clear from this exchange. That's actually awesome. Rest pls look at the exchange, p65-67. I mean homeless just scumreads HF cuz hf tr's ES? I don't see how homeless suddenly gets a 100% read switch like rayn just like that. On me: On April 10 2018 08:26 Vivax wrote: I hope I will be proven right that n00bking was mostly voting with mafia when the game is over, cause that's how it feels like to me right now. Need to do a skynx reread, but am pretty biased cause he didn't choose to hammer me. Dunno. Have you done a re-read? What makes you think there is a chance of me being scum along with trio above? You've been shouting stuff like this after the flip: On April 11 2018 02:22 Vivax wrote: Well basically the only guy who could be mafia with me would be skynx cause his vote allowed me to get the hammer off myself and I had been voting him before so you would have to be arguing that I was trying to lynch my teammate. Ergo you can't still think I'm mafia. I mean if you believe what happens there so blindly, shouldn't that warrant like "skynx locked town" or something? But instead we get "chance of skynx mafia somewhere". Explain pls. | ||
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Eversince should just be ignored. After screwing up the claim like that either alignment knows he fucked up and will react like he did. Impossible to reach a conclusion and he's completely untrustworthy whatever he does from now on. What to do with him I'm not really sure though[...] Town shouldn't get distracted by his input. Right now he is a true 50/50 for reasons i just said. We probably just lynch him only after lynching two mafia and pretend he doesn't play the game, although its kinda rude. There is a chance he gets confirmed before lylo, if we lynch rb or rb targets someone else or other claims make gs impossible/highly improbable etc. | ||
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On April 13 2018 02:56 Vivax wrote: Figuring out who is mafia is really just figuring out who gives a shit about the game FOR REAL like when I called out mooosy just coming back into the thread asking lazy questions in bulk that he could have read easily. Or in our case figuring out that ES bases her rayn conf town read off there being a single NK and then not caring about who the NK was? Yeah but what if the gut read is wrong and you could've lynched mafia following reason and logic? | ||
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On April 13 2018 03:07 Vivax wrote: And you have clearly proven you can't follow reason and logic by not acknowledging that the D1 voting makes me town. I think you're the only one who's acknowledging that | ||
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On April 13 2018 03:07 Vivax wrote: But hey you can be the tinfoiling one like HF and argue both my scum buddies were afk at EoD when it looked like I was getting lynched That happened so many times in past year and a half i lost count. | ||
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On April 13 2018 03:09 Skynx wrote: That happened so many times in past year and a half i lost count. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/523282-tl-mafia-lxxv?page=82#1627 never forget | ||
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On April 13 2018 03:16 Skynx wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/523282-tl-mafia-lxxv?page=82#1627 never forget tvs and only scum voting on counter wagon is the other wagon | ||
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I'm trying to decide how much i should care about this game. On a scale of 10 to just fucking lynch Vivax tomorrow cuz of how obnoxious he's been I'm currently at 5. | ||
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On April 14 2018 05:35 Holyflare wrote: If rayn has a gun he wouldn't shoot it now. He would shoot it tomorrow night after a mislynch today. It's more likely that mafia blocked Eversince though. Why do you assume he would have a gun? So mafia would have a vigshot and end the game a day earlier. If rayn is mafia that is. | ||
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On April 14 2018 05:40 Tubesock wrote: I don’t think he has a gun. HF over rayn cause feels. But I town them both. I don’t think I believe you. But I’ll think more about it. I don’t think we can have three blues even if they’re paired down. I disagree. Two weak investigative + 1 weak prot is pretty standard no? Vig can't shoot n1, no copcheck for d2. They can rb kill you if you claimed (assuming there is one). Don't think its imba. | ||
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On April 14 2018 05:47 Holyflare wrote: I would have assumed the gun was going to me and not rayn and not rb'd Eversince since that's what we decided and even made polls about. Rayn has confirmed he doesn't have a gun so if you think he's town then mafia blocked Eversince. If you think he's mafia then I also think they would have assumed it went to me. I have to check back to see if ES declared it openly before n1 flip. I'd assume so cuz everyone asked rayn if he had the gun. I don't think more than 3 ppl noticed your poll. | ||
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On April 14 2018 05:56 Holyflare wrote: Nah I've read it she said it way before deadline was giving to rayn. Rayn could actually have a gun. I don't think he does though because he's right that he pointed out he didn't and Eversince could just cc if she didn't have a gun. Then wtf are you doing right now not screaming town to lynch rayn? If you're town that means rayn is mafia with a gun and game is over if we lynch you... | ||
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If we do that we only lose if mafia is exactly Calix+rayn which i don't find very likely cuz of how embarrassed Calix looked after her ragepush on rayn was dismissed so rapidly. I think following is trademark HF scumtell, he faked it well on eod1 though I'll give him credit. On April 14 2018 05:21 Skynx wrote: HF having no townreads while not shouting at everyone in thread to stop being terrible was already indicative. | ||
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On April 14 2018 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am running a scenario where exo is mafia with vivax and calix. If his claim is believed town auto loses the game and he basically saves his team as those three are the most wanted lynches today. But i dont know if that team makes sense. I have to check but its not going to happen until tomorrow morning when i am off work. In that case i think he'd be bussing Calix right from the gate here and saddle the credit to victory. | ||
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6-3 right now. 5-3 with lynch, 3-3 with nk + vigshot. ?? | ||
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On April 14 2018 06:14 Holyflare wrote: Why do you also believe exo your biggest scum read? I don't see a scenario here where he fakeclaims as scum. | ||
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On April 14 2018 15:09 currentlyhomeless wrote: what kind of compelling “case” do you expect if i think they are both town if i think they are both town one was framed or is a miller. end of story. yes the likelihood of that with nothing else happened in the game is lower but i dont need to make a case to say its more likely. just read the game, rayn has been trying hard especially recently to figure out the game with me and had very good posts. for example theres no way as scum that he would point out where credit is due when i found something on ever (unless he was scum trying to set me up to die? but i dont get this impression at all) hf is an asshole at times but a lot of the things he has said only make sense from town perspective. most of his townreads seem logical now even if it takes him a while to get there therefore both town, reads > unreliable blue checks i am more than 70% sure that they are both town and the check is nowhere near 70-80% certainty that one is scum because if there is a framer in this game literally the best targets are rayn and hf. if there is a framer in the game, like 90%+ certainty one of those 2 gets framed regardless of alignment. unless they are the framer themselves lol as for miller, let’s say there is one miller and what. 5 vts? 6 vts? 3 scum + miller + 3 blues = 7, 13 - 7 = 6 so miller & 6 VTs. 3 VTs already flipped so remaining non blues are 3 VTs and miller so if they are both town, chance that one of them is miller is 50% rofl lol currentlyclueless, where do you get your fucking odds? Framer+Miller Rayn is framed/miller, hf is green: 2/12*6/10=0.1 rayn is green, hf is f/m: 9/12*2/10=0.15 Even assuming framer+miller odds of correct redcheck is still 60% which means we should lynch one of rayn/hf Assuming there is a gf, both of them are mafia so still lynch one of rayn/hf | ||
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It's not too bad actually, if rayn and Oats are sane we should still have the lynch. | ||
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On April 14 2018 17:55 currentlyhomeless wrote: wow you mustve failed math, reading, or both 50% is the chance one of them is a miller given that both rayn and HF are town. in other words if they are both town, the check is a coinflip between returning “same” and “different” who the fuck knows why you are dividing by 12 when there are only 9 people alive, or why your two fucking symmetric situations have different numbers I don't think even kush can get this high. First statement is complete bollocks. Bolded is just a fucking assumption and nothing more. There is a different check: so one of them is different alignment to the other with 5 mechanics assumed= 3 mafia, 1 frame, 1 miller = 40% chance of fake red. 9 ppl alive means jack shit, odds are taken when the checks take place. Pls go back to your corner near the dumpster. | ||
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WE HAVE UNCC'D DIFFERENT CHECK. ONE OF THEM IS RED. 60% CHANCE THAT RED IS REAL MAFIA = LYNCH. | ||
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On April 14 2018 18:07 currentlyhomeless wrote: holy shit you did fail math https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_probability there are 9 people left in the game. 3 people are scum. you’re telling me the probability RIGHT NOW that any one player is scum independently is 3/12?? why would you even divide by 12 there are fucking 13 players total anyway the math is pretty fucking easy. there are 9 players. 2 are claimed blues. 3 are scum. that leaves 4 townies unaccounted for. assuming there are no more blues, if there is a miller in the game then the chance that any one of those 4 is a miller is 25% if you pick any pair and ask if there’s a miller in the pair it’s 4 choose 2 = 6 pairs. of those 6 pairs 3 have a miller in them so even they are both town the check returns “different” 50% pf the time You're doubting the credibility of the checks. How many ppl are alive is entirely irrelevant. 12 ppl alive for 1st check, 10 for second. | ||
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On April 14 2018 18:09 currentlyhomeless wrote: you realize that the probability that one of them is scum and the probability that the check was true are two different things right i have no idea what this 60% number youre talking about even means cause your math makes no sense. 60% is the credibility of the redcheck in worstcase scenario with a miller and framer. Exo had 1 red and 1 green. Green being fake is irrelevant cuz he'd be mafia too and we means we lynch him. red check happens only 5 times, 3 mafia and 2 alignment changing mechanics. 3/5 is the times red check is legit. | ||
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On April 14 2018 18:18 currentlyhomeless wrote: holy fuckballs we are talking about millers, a miller is a fucking role if there is a miller, when someone flips NONMILLER the chance of everyone else being a miller goes up. not fucking rocket science. this is why the number of people alive mayters if you have 4 townies and 1 miller, if you checked a townie n1 it was a 20% chance they were a miller after 3 of the townies die and flip VT the chance is now 50% you checked a miller because 3 fucking VTs flipped. and obviously if the miller flips the chance is 0. the chance doesn’t magically stay 20% because that’s how many players were alive when you checked jesus yeah i fucked up sry still 1/4 tho? | ||
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On April 16 2018 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Only your scumreads were killing you so why didn't you relax? What use since they have convinced all my townreads including you. | ||
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On April 16 2018 02:53 Calix wrote: Nice to see you guys are still following along. Since you have all basically said you don't want to play, want to discuss the weather? You lot doing anything interesting this week? Yeh, losing to you apparently. | ||
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No words for Tube, Vivax and ES. Homeless is jat, final guess. | ||
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On April 16 2018 02:58 Calix wrote: Lovely to see you've got your eye appointment booked for this week since you're clearly blind to my townieness ![]() How's the boat going? Pretty good, no more sanding after tuesday hopefully. | ||
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On April 16 2018 03:08 Calix wrote: You realise you could like, vote HF if you think he's mafia? lol The ATE is really weak here, Skynx. I do, i want this game to end. | ||
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On April 16 2018 03:48 Calix wrote: I won't even be mad if you're somehow town lol. Let's all just blame the weekend start #lynchthehosts Nah, just shitshow from town. | ||
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On April 16 2018 03:51 Calix wrote: The irony is strong in this post. I wouldn't say anyone has played particularly well this game, town or otherwise. The irony was intentional ![]() | ||
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On April 16 2018 03:55 Holyflare wrote: like fuck sake even if I was mafia I made a case on you and there was not one response from you saying why it's wrong that's on you I don't need to say anything lol you have a redcheck on you. | ||
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On April 16 2018 04:03 Calix wrote: I'm not buying this. Tubesock, HF, myself, etc, have been quite willing to hear you guys out IMO. If you guys decide to respond to that with aggression, ATE, personal attacks, etc, then don't complain when nobody listens and you get lynched. And you keep posting so you must still care somewhat ;p HF and yourself is mafia. Tube mafia read me from min whatever i do. I don't know who is etc. | ||
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On April 16 2018 04:07 Calix wrote: You keep saying you don't give a damn about the game yet you keep making emo posts instead of just going "well guess I'm dead" and doing something else. I am not really 'doing' anything here since you're the lynch by a long shot and you're not spewing yourself as town. good point, bye | ||
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