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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
March 30 2018 18:30 GMT
#5
/in
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 03 2018 18:27 GMT
#43
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 07 2018 08:56 GMT
#67
Pregame excuse: I've probably forgot how to play this game btw

"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 08 2018 12:52 GMT
#188
Wassup guys?

I caught two scum.

  1. GlowingBear

    This is different than what Vivax picked up on, look at the timestamps here:
    On April 08 2018 06:59 GlowingBear wrote:
    My god this is a slow start.
    It's saturday night, people!
    It's not like we're sociable people pursuing sex.

    Are we?


    On April 08 2018 07:14 GlowingBear wrote:
    Ok, time's up. Going to the theatre and then some alcohol.

    I won't be posting until tomorrow. I can't access my account on my phone.

    Buh-bye!

    15 mins between "I'm super excited let's play!" and "k i'm going out". And then'

    On April 08 2018 12:53 GlowingBear wrote:
    Show nested quote +
    On April 08 2018 08:23 Holyflare wrote:
    On April 08 2018 07:14 GlowingBear wrote:
    Ok, time's up. Going to the theatre and then some alcohol.

    I won't be posting until tomorrow. I can't access my account on my phone.

    Buh-bye!

    Sent from my Android.




    ROFL


    5:40 til he comes back. Whichever way you look at it it's not plausible. I can imagine scum motivations of doing this but let's not theorycrraft here. Point is there is just a chain of lies here which you really don't need if you're town.

  2. raynpelikoneet
    On April 08 2018 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
    What is the time difference in #118 and #121? Cant see that on phone.

    He (appears as) thinks he possibly caught something here. Then completely abandons it. That just doesn't add up. What town!rayn does here is:

    1) Quote the posts to look at timestamp difference.
    2) If he really didn't learn that in i dunno how many years in tl mafia, ask someone else again to check it.
    3) If what he inquires turns out to be nothing, he'd be like "ok ignore this guys i though i saw something"

    I remember that one game (town!rayn) I said something in the thread that didn't really mean what i meant and he just didn't let it go for 2 straight day cycles. I also noticed in classic mafia (mafia!rayn) he was so laid back and non-inquisitive, kinda leaving ties loose as in here.

    On April 08 2018 12:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
    Homelessperson are you from the same forum noobking is?

    Kinda contemplates the above. What is the point of this question? How exactly does an information that homeless is or is not from the same forum as noobking helps him or town playing this game or make a read on him??

    I think this is scum rayn just throwing random questions out there that has nothing to do with anything other than to look town and to appear scumhunting i guess..



rayn is already under fire and has much to answer to so I'll vote GB.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 08 2018 12:59 GMT
#189
I also don't understand much of the exchange last page
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 08 2018 13:04 GMT
#191
On April 08 2018 18:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why was it relevant to GB's alignment to group me and eversince there?

Yeah i don't understand this at all
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 08 2018 13:07 GMT
#192
On April 08 2018 22:04 Calix wrote:
What you need to know is that I caught rayn bullshitting about his supposed "mafia read" on me. #177 best case in the game, hands down.

As for your post, Skynx, I do not understand scum motivation for GB giving a reason to exit the thread, only just to violate this rule while under no pressure to do so. Mafia would be more likely to just give a reason and piss off. Keeps their story straight and means they have an excuse to not post innit.

I mean why lie about why you are going away if you're town though?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 08 2018 13:10 GMT
#193
On April 08 2018 20:37 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
Vivax was scum-leaning GB until Damdred made a point about why it isn't scummy, then Vivax changed his mind. But then why would you say "yeah he's town"? That's not the response you'd make if someone had changed your mind.


Why not?

I also wasn't scum leaning GB particularly. I found his post there defensive and that's it. Damdred came out with a hard townread and I gave him something that would possibly oppose his view, and I found his reaction townie all around. Although with fresh eyes today it probably doesn't mean that much. Was just going off the assumption that mafia Damdred would keep himself the option open for a GB lynch. Will roll with it for the time being though.

Where is this quote from?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 08 2018 13:14 GMT
#196
On April 08 2018 22:04 Calix wrote:
What you need to know is that I caught rayn bullshitting about his supposed "mafia read" on me. #177 best case in the game, hands down.

As for your post, Skynx, I do not understand scum motivation for GB giving a reason to exit the thread, only just to violate this rule while under no pressure to do so. Mafia would be more likely to just give a reason and piss off. Keeps their story straight and means they have an excuse to not post innit.

What about points on rayn?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 08 2018 13:23 GMT
#198
On April 08 2018 22:18 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2018 22:14 Skynx wrote:
On April 08 2018 22:04 Calix wrote:
What you need to know is that I caught rayn bullshitting about his supposed "mafia read" on me. #177 best case in the game, hands down.

As for your post, Skynx, I do not understand scum motivation for GB giving a reason to exit the thread, only just to violate this rule while under no pressure to do so. Mafia would be more likely to just give a reason and piss off. Keeps their story straight and means they have an excuse to not post innit.

What about points on rayn?


As I understand it, you're accusing him of asking questions with no follow-up, particularly with regards to something about Damdred (?) and his posts towards currentlyhomeless. I think it's a valid point but then again, I am biased

Thats basically his intro to the thread, he's trying to appear as doing something but its actually two pointless questions which are then abandoned.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 08 2018 13:27 GMT
#199
On April 08 2018 22:10 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2018 20:37 Vivax wrote:
Vivax was scum-leaning GB until Damdred made a point about why it isn't scummy, then Vivax changed his mind. But then why would you say "yeah he's town"? That's not the response you'd make if someone had changed your mind.


Why not?

I also wasn't scum leaning GB particularly. I found his post there defensive and that's it. Damdred came out with a hard townread and I gave him something that would possibly oppose his view, and I found his reaction townie all around. Although with fresh eyes today it probably doesn't mean that much. Was just going off the assumption that mafia Damdred would keep himself the option open for a GB lynch. Will roll with it for the time being though.

Where is this quote from?

Nvm i found it.
On April 08 2018 18:08 Calix wrote:
Have access to a keyboard, thank God.

Vivax might be mafia because of how he went about his GB read. First he says that "GB saying he can't post for a while after posting a bunch at the start of the day reads defensive to me" which is typically a mafia trait, and when Damdred questions this read and implies a negative view of Vivax because of it ("kinda a meh read from you"), Vivax's reaction is to call both GB AND Damdred town. Weird progression.

As I see it, it's one of these scenarios:

A) Vivax was always town-reading GB, in which case why did he make the comment about GB being defensive?

B) Vivax was scum-leaning GB until Damdred made a point about why it isn't scummy, then Vivax changed his mind. But then why would you say "yeah he's town"? That's not the response you'd make if someone had changed your mind.

C) Some other scenario I haven't accounted for. However the two I listed were the ones that came to mind when I first read the exchange.

So yes, I'd like an explanation.

I also don't see how the reason he gave for Damdred being town ("I don't see why you wouldn't partially agree with me if you were mafia") is AI.


I agree that GlowingBear is more likely town than not. His posting reads as spontaneous and unplanned to me.

As for his case on me, it's dumb because I DID respond to his vote (after he actually gave reasons) and Eversince's assumption that it was a spite vote was more interesting than a naked vote.


I also want a response from Eversince that clarifies that random town-read she doled out to one of GB/ Calix. Both GB and I asked about that and she ignored both queries to post some irrelevant nonsense. So I am asking again.

Yeah Vivax' response is a bit weird. It looks like he has an idea that makes Damdred town in his own world but it doesn't really relate to GB. Not sure its scummy though.

"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 08 2018 13:29 GMT
#200
On April 08 2018 10:21 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2018 09:50 Vivax wrote:
On April 08 2018 09:36 Damdred wrote:
I think gb is town btw


Telling us he can't post for a while after posting a good amount already and it being the start of the day reads defensive to me.


Yeah but why is it defensive if he is busy irl, thats kinda a meh read from you vivax.

But really I feel like his thing hes doing with the thing he noticed about calix and dragging ever and rayn into it just seems town to me. Town for GB he generally cant fake enthusiasm like that as scum by my recollevtion.

Damdred looks good for Vivax part here but i don't agree with bolded.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 08 2018 13:47 GMT
#201
Actually nvm two posts above. They don't really mean anything, Vivax didn't really have an opinion on GB other than "defensive".
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 08 2018 15:40 GMT
#208
You're mixing up GB with rayn.

I'm scumread rayn cuz those two questions are unlikely to come from town. If town posts such questions he's likely to follow them up cuz town would be actually interested in the answers. My take is rayn posted them cuz i dunno why the fuck, probably trying to appear townie in the intro.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 08 2018 15:58 GMT
#213
Go ahead and explain what is the point to those questions im curious.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 08 2018 17:12 GMT
#236
On April 09 2018 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 00:58 Skynx wrote:
Go ahead and explain what is the point to those questions im curious.

On Eversince and Damdred. they both were wanting to engage each other then it jsut dropped off. That's where i left to when i got to work. I found it weird there was no progression on that conversation. Then i realized Eversince said she was drunk and relying on someone else's internet and both of them stopped posting (aka possibly went to sleep). So yeah, it doesn't make them anything.

On the smurf dude. They joined relatively close to each other with noobking. And this guy started talking about setups pre-game (which is something noobking apparently is very concerned of regardles of his affiliation). I thought there is a high chance he is from the same place he is from, which obviously affects on what to expect of him and what not in comparison to TL players. I actually kept on what i was pushing until he basically said he is a smurf and that's when i dropped it.

Ok, that works.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 09 2018 16:54 GMT
#796
Hi I'm here, catching up from p16.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 09 2018 17:03 GMT
#800
Hi, I'm at page 16 right now.

On April 09 2018 06:58 Tubesock wrote:
Skynx, I feel like your case on GB and Rayn was 1/2 trolly 1/2 real. Rayne answered you, and you seem appeased. Are you townreading him? Have your thoughts on GB changed at all?

I’m comfortable townreading Rayne and GB.

Calix I don’t know about. I didn’t agree with any of the Rayne criticism and they seemed a tad nit picky. It reminded me of noobking in my last game (noob was scum). But I do like the activity and she seems to be looking at everything.

I thought my case was fine at the time it was posted (4-5 pages of content).

It's a bit late but rayn and GB can be town for now yes, as they seem to be picked up the game.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 09 2018 17:24 GMT
#814
On April 09 2018 15:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2018 21:52 Skynx wrote:
Wassup guys?

I caught two scum.

  1. GlowingBear

    This is different than what Vivax picked up on, look at the timestamps here:
    On April 08 2018 06:59 GlowingBear wrote:
    My god this is a slow start.
    It's saturday night, people!
    It's not like we're sociable people pursuing sex.

    Are we?


    On April 08 2018 07:14 GlowingBear wrote:
    Ok, time's up. Going to the theatre and then some alcohol.

    I won't be posting until tomorrow. I can't access my account on my phone.

    Buh-bye!

    15 mins between "I'm super excited let's play!" and "k i'm going out". And then'

    On April 08 2018 12:53 GlowingBear wrote:
    Show nested quote +
    On April 08 2018 08:23 Holyflare wrote:
    On April 08 2018 07:14 GlowingBear wrote:
    Ok, time's up. Going to the theatre and then some alcohol.

    I won't be posting until tomorrow. I can't access my account on my phone.

    Buh-bye!

    Sent from my Android.




    ROFL


    5:40 til he comes back. Whichever way you look at it it's not plausible. I can imagine scum motivations of doing this but let's not theorycrraft here. Point is there is just a chain of lies here which you really don't need if you're town.

  2. raynpelikoneet
    On April 08 2018 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
    What is the time difference in #118 and #121? Cant see that on phone.

    He (appears as) thinks he possibly caught something here. Then completely abandons it. That just doesn't add up. What town!rayn does here is:

    1) Quote the posts to look at timestamp difference.
    2) If he really didn't learn that in i dunno how many years in tl mafia, ask someone else again to check it.
    3) If what he inquires turns out to be nothing, he'd be like "ok ignore this guys i though i saw something"

    I remember that one game (town!rayn) I said something in the thread that didn't really mean what i meant and he just didn't let it go for 2 straight day cycles. I also noticed in classic mafia (mafia!rayn) he was so laid back and non-inquisitive, kinda leaving ties loose as in here.

    On April 08 2018 12:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
    Homelessperson are you from the same forum noobking is?

    Kinda contemplates the above. What is the point of this question? How exactly does an information that homeless is or is not from the same forum as noobking helps him or town playing this game or make a read on him??

    I think this is scum rayn just throwing random questions out there that has nothing to do with anything other than to look town and to appear scumhunting i guess..



rayn is already under fire and has much to answer to so I'll vote GB.


Skynx, can you explain your thought process behind the statement bolded in italic?

I wanted you to pick up the game, you seemed troll mode up to that point. If you call my case shitty, yours on Vivax was even worse.

I wanted rayn to pick up the game aswell but he got into a shit-stirring fight with Calix a page behind for reasons i didn't really comprehend. That seemed enough pressure on him to force him play.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 09 2018 17:45 GMT
#823
On April 10 2018 02:37 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 02:03 Skynx wrote:
Hi, I'm at page 16 right now.

On April 09 2018 06:58 Tubesock wrote:
Skynx, I feel like your case on GB and Rayn was 1/2 trolly 1/2 real. Rayne answered you, and you seem appeased. Are you townreading him? Have your thoughts on GB changed at all?

I’m comfortable townreading Rayne and GB.

Calix I don’t know about. I didn’t agree with any of the Rayne criticism and they seemed a tad nit picky. It reminded me of noobking in my last game (noob was scum). But I do like the activity and she seems to be looking at everything.

I thought my case was fine at the time it was posted (4-5 pages of content).

It's a bit late but rayn and GB can be town for now yes, as they seem to be picked up the game.


Really? Somehow your conclusions go the opposite of mine as GB to me looked townier earlier than what he does now that he's gone full lazy mode. But it'd be good if you could catch up and deliver your guess.

Sidenote: N00bking still only talking about ES claim.

I explained it badly. GB (and rayn) look towny around p16-17, after i went away. It's a bit late because a lot may have happened since then.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 09 2018 17:51 GMT
#824
I'm kinda lost here, I might just sheep Oats or ES.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 09 2018 17:54 GMT
#827
I'll read a couple more times, I'll unvote GB for now.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 09 2018 18:19 GMT
#846
On April 09 2018 21:07 Vivax wrote:
I'm catching up would appreciate if thread didn't go instantly empty once I'm done.

Highlights from the reread as well:

Don't like Skynx entry.

Tonal argument: His way of going in is very different from the rest of the thread up until that point and reads almost excessively tryhard to me. Entire post looks like he just didn't know what to do besides forced scumhunting.

Content arguments:
Also I don't believe he actually would believe to have caught skynx just off timestamps as town. His rayn points are all meta and don't leave any wiggle room for a rayn town argument when he said he doesn't post more from work.

Basically skynx entrance screams all lazy mafia trying to look tryhard.

Moving on.

I don't like this. You were around when i wrote this case and could pick up on all the points here at the time. Instead you waited an entire day to bring up again why my case is bad? After half of the thread said the same thing?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 09 2018 18:26 GMT
#852
On April 10 2018 03:21 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 03:19 Skynx wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:07 Vivax wrote:
I'm catching up would appreciate if thread didn't go instantly empty once I'm done.

Highlights from the reread as well:

Don't like Skynx entry.

Tonal argument: His way of going in is very different from the rest of the thread up until that point and reads almost excessively tryhard to me. Entire post looks like he just didn't know what to do besides forced scumhunting.

Content arguments:
Also I don't believe he actually would believe to have caught skynx just off timestamps as town. His rayn points are all meta and don't leave any wiggle room for a rayn town argument when he said he doesn't post more from work.

Basically skynx entrance screams all lazy mafia trying to look tryhard.

Moving on.

I don't like this. You were around when i wrote this case and could pick up on all the points here at the time. Instead you waited an entire day to bring up again why my case is bad? After half of the thread said the same thing?


Except I don't always pay attention to everything at once and when you posted it I didn't read it thoroughly as I did today. Why do people always bring the argument that someone is scummy cause he doesn't have the attention span of a savant? Nice try.

You really don't have to be a savant to read the thread and come up with the conclusions you did in this case lol. You are parroting Tube, GB, rayn and i don't know who else who called my case shit.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 09 2018 18:28 GMT
#855
Actually nvm, that's your re-entry into thread and thats fine. I thought that was like after you exchanged some conversation and only came up with that.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 09 2018 18:34 GMT
#859
On April 10 2018 03:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 03:18 n00bKing wrote:
On April 10 2018 03:02 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 03:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 10 2018 02:55 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 10 2018 02:22 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Calix, you said town vivax behaves exactly how vivax actually behaved this game in reference to explaining his read on you but you literally just ignore that?


No, I said that Vivax already explained a scenario you posited in the thread, which would thus be the explanation for his actions were Vivax to flip town. Because that's what Vivax is claiming happened.

I think this answer was exceedingly obvious, thus making your question terrible.

Has this rather long discussion with moi furthered your read on me in any way?

He said it before I said it though? And you said it after he said it


I am pretty sure this is incorrect. However I do not care to check since I do not understand where you're going with this.

Again, have any of your interactions with me changed your read at all?

That's gonna be a no from me.



You've interacted with me for like, two pages and you're no more or less convinced on what my alignment is despite me answering a shitload of your questions.

Don't think I believe you.

Can sure be convinced to lynch Oatsmaster. Choosing you as the best D1 lynch strikes me as pretty ridiculous. He's just as obtuse as Vivax, but it feels more sinister. Vivax is maybe more...directionless, than malicious.



What do you think about damdred and skynx then? They also wanna lynch calix and they are objectively worse than me

I don't want to lynch Calix?
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#865
On April 10 2018 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really dont like Vivax lynch. If i have to i will save him by voting Skynx but i dont really think he is mafia either. I would suggest strongly against voting for Calix. I have no idea about what noobking is because i dont rrally feel like he has said much anything.

Glowingbear started being terr8ble but thats probably town terrible.

I still want to lynch exo for what i have said earlier.
##unvote
##vote exo_

What makes you think the bolded?

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April 09 2018 18:38 GMT
#866
I would've voted by now in that case. Oats and ES are my only super-town reads but i don't think Calix/Vivax are mafia wagons.
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On April 10 2018 03:40 Calix wrote:
Skynx I don't get why you now think Vivax isn't a mafia wagon when you had this quote interaction where you seemed more hostile to him than anything else. Please explain the progression in your Vivax read.

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On April 10 2018 03:26 Skynx wrote:
On April 10 2018 03:21 Vivax wrote:
On April 10 2018 03:19 Skynx wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:07 Vivax wrote:
I'm catching up would appreciate if thread didn't go instantly empty once I'm done.

Highlights from the reread as well:

Don't like Skynx entry.

Tonal argument: His way of going in is very different from the rest of the thread up until that point and reads almost excessively tryhard to me. Entire post looks like he just didn't know what to do besides forced scumhunting.

Content arguments:
Also I don't believe he actually would believe to have caught skynx just off timestamps as town. His rayn points are all meta and don't leave any wiggle room for a rayn town argument when he said he doesn't post more from work.

Basically skynx entrance screams all lazy mafia trying to look tryhard.

Moving on.

I don't like this. You were around when i wrote this case and could pick up on all the points here at the time. Instead you waited an entire day to bring up again why my case is bad? After half of the thread said the same thing?


Except I don't always pay attention to everything at once and when you posted it I didn't read it thoroughly as I did today. Why do people always bring the argument that someone is scummy cause he doesn't have the attention span of a savant? Nice try.

You really don't have to be a savant to read the thread and come up with the conclusions you did in this case lol. You are parroting Tube, GB, rayn and i don't know who else who called my case shit.


On April 10 2018 03:28 Skynx wrote:
Actually nvm, that's your re-entry into thread and thats fine. I thought that was like after you exchanged some conversation and only came up with that.

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April 09 2018 18:43 GMT
#871
Yeah sorry guys I'm way too rusty i have no clue what I'm doing.
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#900
Currently I'm voting n00bking for 3 reasons

1) Sheep ES.
2) Him scumreading Oats.
3) All the talk about how claim doesn't make ES town and he can be lynched. Mafia making a blind claim when he was so far from danger is actually impossible.
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April 09 2018 19:17 GMT
#904
On April 10 2018 04:16 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 10 2018 04:16 Skynx wrote:
Currently I'm voting n00bking for 3 reasons

1) Sheep ES.
2) Him scumreading Oats.
3) All the talk about how claim doesn't make ES town and he can be lynched. Mafia making a blind claim when he was so far from danger is actually impossible.


Literally happened in the last game.

?? You're talking about the vet claim?
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April 09 2018 19:20 GMT
#913
On April 10 2018 04:18 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 10 2018 04:17 Skynx wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:16 Holyflare wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:16 Skynx wrote:
Currently I'm voting n00bking for 3 reasons

1) Sheep ES.
2) Him scumreading Oats.
3) All the talk about how claim doesn't make ES town and he can be lynched. Mafia making a blind claim when he was so far from danger is actually impossible.


Literally happened in the last game.

?? You're talking about the vet claim?


The mafia vet claim that claimed hours before he needed to that turned out to be a mafia veteran, yes.

Ah i see, implying mafai gunsmith is possible
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April 09 2018 19:22 GMT
#918
On April 10 2018 04:17 Vivax wrote:
Voted N00bking. If I was wrong on Skynx this is the time to find it out. And also I don't want to be the lynch.

Lol what how do i look more town here?
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April 09 2018 19:24 GMT
#925
WTF GB
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April 09 2018 19:26 GMT
#933
Shennanie on GB?
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April 09 2018 19:28 GMT
#945
GB pushed my lynch all day, even pulled out a rayn scumread out of nowhere for it. Now thinks im actually town. GB mafia claim.
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#948
On April 10 2018 04:29 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 10 2018 04:28 Skynx wrote:
GB pushed my lynch all day, even pulled out a rayn scumread out of nowhere for it. Now thinks im actually town. GB mafia claim.


Vote homeless he has done NOTHING

GB is trying to save n00b goddamit
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April 09 2018 19:39 GMT
#958
lol that wasn't even real gb
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#973
Sorry for a super lackluster day guys. I'll pick up the game i promise.
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#1049
lol ok
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I mean you not starting with a gun directly contradicts the op. So either you are lying or game should be called off cuz you are 100% the lynch right now.
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#1058
On April 10 2018 18:42 Eversince wrote:
At this point I wish I was just VT because mafia might just leave me alive for you guys to mislynch. But I'm going to give the gun to Rayn. I hope he doesn't shoot Calix but if he does then ok. I think she is town but I trust his judgement better.

Which gun? Aren't you yet to make one tonight?
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April 10 2018 14:09 GMT
#1139
Updated town pile: Oats, HF, GB, ES

HF is on equal grounds with Oats right now, came out guns blazing out of his earlygame trolling. Constantly pushing people and reading his stuff kinda makes sense right now. As long as he's playing like this I'm not lynching him.

I think GB is town here. I tried to read him like he was mafia but it just didn't fit together. His general attitude and approach to the game is pretty towny imo.

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On April 10 2018 00:12 GlowingBear wrote:
I must say our votecount looks terrible.
Here is a list of people that we should be lynching today:

1. Skynx
4. ExO_
6. Eversince
7. currentlyhomeless
8. Calix
12. Vivax
13.Damdred

In order of my preference:

Skynx is the best option. He came to the thread, made a very bad case and instead of choosing his most scumread, he voted me because "rayn had a lot of questions to answer". This is not a townie thought process. A town lynches the scummiest and votes the scummiest. Also, he just peaced out of the game.

Vivax doesn't sound like Vivax. Not contributive. Not chasing information in thread.

Exo sounds so emotionally dettached from the game. Also calling me out without further pursuing me was weird. He isn't really commenting on the hot topics of the thread, but mostly following his own agenda.

Calix, I don't know. I can see her changing her POV on rayn and me. But it feels so weird. Especially when rayn attacks her agreeing with me she looked scummy, then she also scumreads him, and then they both drop their scumreads in a flinch.

Currentlyhomeless, currentlyuseless.

Damdred, he is simply not playing the game and I hate it.

This is an alright list (except exo i guess i don't an opinion on him right now). He keeps bringing up why me and Vivax are scum, trying to convince people to actually lynch us. I can see why stuff on Calix makes sense in his world if he's so keen on seeing my case as shit. I also don't think his eod switch would come from mafia when i go back to evaluate it. Just sit on me comfortably right? My case was shit and lots of scumread on me, no one is going to blame him if he just stayed. He's just town.

ES i guess we just have to believe his claim for now. His paranoia and stress can be faked (well not faked but if i actually claimed and fucked up like that thats the only move left to do) but I find it genuine. Plus yeah claiming there is really bad if you're mafia. And i liked his defence of me against Tube before he claimed.
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April 10 2018 14:14 GMT
#1140
I'd like to put rayn in there aswell but I think he kinda fell off last 12hours of yesterday. His earlier stuff on me i liked, such as bringing up the last game where i did something similar, felt like that was impossible to come from mafia unless someone else brought it up. However, him switching back to ES when claim is uncc'd felt very odd to me, when he had other scumreds such as Exo. His Vivax townread is mostly based on meta which i don't like as he seems to be using pure meta reads as a front against others.
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#1141
I'm reading Tube right now.

I'll spend a good deal reading Calix, Vivax and Exo when I'm done with work. I feel like mafia is lurking there by process of elimination, since Damdy and homeless are coinflips.
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#1142
Meh he's mostly just "skynx mafia" other than commenting on the trio above. I'd like to have an opinion on those first. null for now.
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#1494
On April 11 2018 06:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have to look at the votes again tomorrow but Skynx can actually be hipster mafia. There are a couple of things that strike me super odd like:
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However, him switching back to ES when claim is uncc'd felt very odd to me, when he had other scumreds such as Exo. His Vivax townread is mostly based on meta which i don't like as he seems to be using pure meta reads as a front against others.

the first thing never happened and he himself saved Vivax.

Also I find it kinda funny i find it kinda sad that noobking got lynched with none of the voters aside Vivax having any sort of case on him. Apparently Skynx and Exo sheeped this perfect case:
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On April 09 2018 22:31 Eversince wrote:
I parked my vote noob. I don't honestly know if he's scum but I can't get mislynch. I have to try to survive. And out of the options I think noob is the best place.


Now really good night.

Sorry about the ES thing I messed up timestamps myself this time..
I dunno how me saving Vivax is relevant with your (particularly absent) tr of Vivax.
I did have my reason for lynching noobking albeit not a case.

I also like your stuff on Damdred, which rest of the thread is kinda sleeping on. You can be town for now.
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#1495
Calix your GB-me association is pretty garbage. Please try harder.
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#1496
Calix' Vivax scumread progression is super scum. After our early convo together, she disagrees with Vivax on some minor stuff, Vivax explains then she's ok. Following comes up:

On April 09 2018 21:43 Calix wrote:
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On April 09 2018 21:36 Vivax wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:27 Calix wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:22 Vivax wrote:
On April 09 2018 17:19 n00bKing wrote:
On April 09 2018 01:05 Calix wrote:
Half of rayn's posts seem divorced from anything going on in the thread. I can hardly tell what he is referring to half the time since he seems to mix up who he's talking to when he responds to people.

Independent of anything else, this for sure is true. I had already noticed that his posts are more difficult to follow than anyone else's, before reading this from you. And that's with me reading the thread chronologically; I'm sure it'll be even worse if anyone tries to look into his filter later in the game.

If he's Town, then the fact that his posts will later be almost impossible for other Town players to look at, read, and understand, would not be great for his win condition. But if he's Scum, the fact that his posts will later be indecipherable for Town players would not hurt his win condition at all.


I find rayns posts very coherent to read. They are just long, but he doesn't beat around the bush. He is also town so I will defend him to my last breath.

You also started posting after I voted for you. Coincidence or caught pants down?

Either way the fact you are discrediting the way rayn posts really puts you in a bad light for me. I think Calix is town too but busy annoying the raynzo for false reasons and you just chime in taking sides lazily with the above post.


What game are you reading? rayn's early posts were not 'very coherent'. Multiple players have agreed with this sentiment.

If I was annoying rayn for ""false"" reasons then how am I town? O_______o


I've read his big post though where he concludes with a bunch of reads and the second post after where he readresses something he explained poorly. All of that combined screams super town to me. And it is coherent. Why should I only focus on his early stuff where he was at work instead?


That has nothing to do with anything I said. I was talking about how his early posts were not coherent. n00bking made his 'I agree that rayn's posts are hard to understand' early on in his catch-up.

The quality of his later posts is irrelevant (✿ヘᴥヘ)

And don't think just because you asked a rhetorical question about rayn means I'm going to forget that cute evasion of my own question (ʘ‿ʘ✿) If I have false reasons for accusing rayn then how am I town again??? Especially since you ALSO accused me of being full of shite and 'inventing facts' to attack you (◕‿◕✿)

Again just disagreement over rayn being "coherent" coherent or whatever. Nothing to imply a scumlean even.

On April 09 2018 21:58 Calix wrote:
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On April 09 2018 21:56 ExO_ wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax why are you mafia. So so sad.


I don’t get a scum vibe from Vivax at all. Can you explain this read in detail?


His evasion of his weird-arse read on me.

He called my reasons for scum!rayn "false".

He had also accused me of making facts up to scum-read him.

WHY DOES HE THINK I'M TOWN?

None of this makes vivax scum.

Then proceeds to sheep this:
On April 09 2018 22:00 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 09 2018 21:56 ExO_ wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax why are you mafia. So so sad.


I don’t get a scum vibe from Vivax at all. Can you explain this read in detail?


Town read on gb and damdred
Town read on you for something he doesn't agree with
Mafia reads calix but then just says unemotionally she's not mafia and is in fact town.
Town reads rayn.
Town reads a million people for free.

Where is paranoia? Where is scum reads?


This further evolves into "I want Vivax dead", like out of nowhere?

On April 10 2018 02:20 Calix wrote:
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On April 10 2018 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 10 2018 02:08 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 02:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 10 2018 01:56 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 10 2018 01:51 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
[quote]
Why don't you go and look?!?


Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia.

It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic


Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D

There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier?


Mafia!Vivax ignores it because he can't think of a legit explanation for it, duh. And he recently said he was 'too busy responding to other posts' to respond to mine so that would be the town!Vivax explanation.

So since he answered it and gave that explanation he isn't scum anymore right? Since that was a significant part of your earlier reasons


No because I still don't think he's done anything that 'townie' and his posts are more "meh" which is why I am happy with my current vote. If you think I am wrong then point out where he's done something townie and ELI5. I could be tunneled with "Vivax is underperforming mafia", I will admit, but I don't see anything convincing for him being town.

Furthermore, there is also a lot of resistance to his lynch and some pushes towards Skynx (who I think is town but we'll see how he responds to this EOD), n00b (I agree he hasn't posted many explicit reads but I am not convinced this is AI for him), myself (pretty terrible D1 lynch if I say so myself), etc.

@n00bking, I do not know much about Oats' play so I couldn't tell you, lol.

Literally the only resistance to his lynch is me what the heck.


I meant with wagons. Vivax/ Skynx tied. Calix/ n00b two votes. I would imagine there's a mafia on the line somewhere. I concluded Vivax because his wagon is the one that's most static and somehow hasn't exceeded three votes despite few people properly town-reading or going out on a leg to defend him.


bolded has been discussed before but its super scummy taking into consideration her earlier heavy scumread of vivax.
She then proceeds to townread both me and vivax out of tone, leaving noob as her only implied scumread but she doesn't vote???
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#1502
On April 12 2018 02:23 Calix wrote:
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On April 12 2018 02:08 Skynx wrote:
Calix' Vivax scumread progression is super scum. After our early convo together, she disagrees with Vivax on some minor stuff, Vivax explains then she's ok. Following comes up:

On April 09 2018 21:43 Calix wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:36 Vivax wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:27 Calix wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:22 Vivax wrote:
On April 09 2018 17:19 n00bKing wrote:
On April 09 2018 01:05 Calix wrote:
Half of rayn's posts seem divorced from anything going on in the thread. I can hardly tell what he is referring to half the time since he seems to mix up who he's talking to when he responds to people.

Independent of anything else, this for sure is true. I had already noticed that his posts are more difficult to follow than anyone else's, before reading this from you. And that's with me reading the thread chronologically; I'm sure it'll be even worse if anyone tries to look into his filter later in the game.

If he's Town, then the fact that his posts will later be almost impossible for other Town players to look at, read, and understand, would not be great for his win condition. But if he's Scum, the fact that his posts will later be indecipherable for Town players would not hurt his win condition at all.


I find rayns posts very coherent to read. They are just long, but he doesn't beat around the bush. He is also town so I will defend him to my last breath.

You also started posting after I voted for you. Coincidence or caught pants down?

Either way the fact you are discrediting the way rayn posts really puts you in a bad light for me. I think Calix is town too but busy annoying the raynzo for false reasons and you just chime in taking sides lazily with the above post.


What game are you reading? rayn's early posts were not 'very coherent'. Multiple players have agreed with this sentiment.

If I was annoying rayn for ""false"" reasons then how am I town? O_______o


I've read his big post though where he concludes with a bunch of reads and the second post after where he readresses something he explained poorly. All of that combined screams super town to me. And it is coherent. Why should I only focus on his early stuff where he was at work instead?


That has nothing to do with anything I said. I was talking about how his early posts were not coherent. n00bking made his 'I agree that rayn's posts are hard to understand' early on in his catch-up.

The quality of his later posts is irrelevant (✿ヘᴥヘ)

And don't think just because you asked a rhetorical question about rayn means I'm going to forget that cute evasion of my own question (ʘ‿ʘ✿) If I have false reasons for accusing rayn then how am I town again??? Especially since you ALSO accused me of being full of shite and 'inventing facts' to attack you (◕‿◕✿)

Again just disagreement over rayn being "coherent" coherent or whatever. Nothing to imply a scumlean even.

On April 09 2018 21:58 Calix wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:56 ExO_ wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax why are you mafia. So so sad.


I don’t get a scum vibe from Vivax at all. Can you explain this read in detail?


His evasion of his weird-arse read on me.

He called my reasons for scum!rayn "false".

He had also accused me of making facts up to scum-read him.

WHY DOES HE THINK I'M TOWN?

None of this makes vivax scum.

Then proceeds to sheep this:
On April 09 2018 22:00 Holyflare wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:56 ExO_ wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax why are you mafia. So so sad.


I don’t get a scum vibe from Vivax at all. Can you explain this read in detail?


Town read on gb and damdred
Town read on you for something he doesn't agree with
Mafia reads calix but then just says unemotionally she's not mafia and is in fact town.
Town reads rayn.
Town reads a million people for free.

Where is paranoia? Where is scum reads?


This further evolves into "I want Vivax dead", like out of nowhere?

On April 10 2018 02:20 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 10 2018 02:08 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 02:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 10 2018 01:56 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 10 2018 01:51 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
[quote]
It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic


Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D

There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier?


Mafia!Vivax ignores it because he can't think of a legit explanation for it, duh. And he recently said he was 'too busy responding to other posts' to respond to mine so that would be the town!Vivax explanation.

So since he answered it and gave that explanation he isn't scum anymore right? Since that was a significant part of your earlier reasons


No because I still don't think he's done anything that 'townie' and his posts are more "meh" which is why I am happy with my current vote. If you think I am wrong then point out where he's done something townie and ELI5. I could be tunneled with "Vivax is underperforming mafia", I will admit, but I don't see anything convincing for him being town.

Furthermore, there is also a lot of resistance to his lynch and some pushes towards Skynx (who I think is town but we'll see how he responds to this EOD), n00b (I agree he hasn't posted many explicit reads but I am not convinced this is AI for him), myself (pretty terrible D1 lynch if I say so myself), etc.

@n00bking, I do not know much about Oats' play so I couldn't tell you, lol.

Literally the only resistance to his lynch is me what the heck.


I meant with wagons. Vivax/ Skynx tied. Calix/ n00b two votes. I would imagine there's a mafia on the line somewhere. I concluded Vivax because his wagon is the one that's most static and somehow hasn't exceeded three votes despite few people properly town-reading or going out on a leg to defend him.


bolded has been discussed before but its super scummy taking into consideration her earlier heavy scumread of vivax.
She then proceeds to townread both me and vivax out of tone, leaving noob as her only implied scumread but she doesn't vote???


An impressive number of falsehoods in this post.

- That first post was demanding an answer to a question, not making a case. Anyone reading the post would realise this.
- I didn't sheep HF's posts.
- I didn't scum-read n00b.
- I didn't town-read Vivax and you because of tone.

Did you actually read my filter or were you hoping nobody would check?

Your post doesn't even make sense as a narrative since none of the 'evidence' provided shows anything weird about my Vivax progression. And most of it is based on shit that isn't true at all. Amazing.

Saying it's ""super scummy"" multiple times won't make it so.

Where exactly you ever scumread Vivax?

Vivax/ Skynx tied. Calix/ n00b two votes. I would imagine there's a mafia on the line somewhere
After tr'ing me and Vivax, that leaves only n00b as a scumread.

You purely townread me for tone. Not gona look for it now but "he seems genuinely lost" something along those lines. If you didn't townread Vivax for tone can you please show why you cleared him?
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
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April 11 2018 17:29 GMT
#1503
On April 12 2018 02:22 Holyflare wrote:
Why you just repeating things, Skynx?

Cuz im a day behind
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 11 2018 17:49 GMT
#1506
On April 12 2018 02:32 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2018 02:29 Skynx wrote:
On April 12 2018 02:23 Calix wrote:
On April 12 2018 02:08 Skynx wrote:
Calix' Vivax scumread progression is super scum. After our early convo together, she disagrees with Vivax on some minor stuff, Vivax explains then she's ok. Following comes up:

On April 09 2018 21:43 Calix wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:36 Vivax wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:27 Calix wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:22 Vivax wrote:
On April 09 2018 17:19 n00bKing wrote:
On April 09 2018 01:05 Calix wrote:
Half of rayn's posts seem divorced from anything going on in the thread. I can hardly tell what he is referring to half the time since he seems to mix up who he's talking to when he responds to people.

Independent of anything else, this for sure is true. I had already noticed that his posts are more difficult to follow than anyone else's, before reading this from you. And that's with me reading the thread chronologically; I'm sure it'll be even worse if anyone tries to look into his filter later in the game.

If he's Town, then the fact that his posts will later be almost impossible for other Town players to look at, read, and understand, would not be great for his win condition. But if he's Scum, the fact that his posts will later be indecipherable for Town players would not hurt his win condition at all.


I find rayns posts very coherent to read. They are just long, but he doesn't beat around the bush. He is also town so I will defend him to my last breath.

You also started posting after I voted for you. Coincidence or caught pants down?

Either way the fact you are discrediting the way rayn posts really puts you in a bad light for me. I think Calix is town too but busy annoying the raynzo for false reasons and you just chime in taking sides lazily with the above post.


What game are you reading? rayn's early posts were not 'very coherent'. Multiple players have agreed with this sentiment.

If I was annoying rayn for ""false"" reasons then how am I town? O_______o


I've read his big post though where he concludes with a bunch of reads and the second post after where he readresses something he explained poorly. All of that combined screams super town to me. And it is coherent. Why should I only focus on his early stuff where he was at work instead?


That has nothing to do with anything I said. I was talking about how his early posts were not coherent. n00bking made his 'I agree that rayn's posts are hard to understand' early on in his catch-up.

The quality of his later posts is irrelevant (✿ヘᴥヘ)

And don't think just because you asked a rhetorical question about rayn means I'm going to forget that cute evasion of my own question (ʘ‿ʘ✿) If I have false reasons for accusing rayn then how am I town again??? Especially since you ALSO accused me of being full of shite and 'inventing facts' to attack you (◕‿◕✿)

Again just disagreement over rayn being "coherent" coherent or whatever. Nothing to imply a scumlean even.

On April 09 2018 21:58 Calix wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:56 ExO_ wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax why are you mafia. So so sad.


I don’t get a scum vibe from Vivax at all. Can you explain this read in detail?


His evasion of his weird-arse read on me.

He called my reasons for scum!rayn "false".

He had also accused me of making facts up to scum-read him.

WHY DOES HE THINK I'M TOWN?

None of this makes vivax scum.

Then proceeds to sheep this:
On April 09 2018 22:00 Holyflare wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:56 ExO_ wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax why are you mafia. So so sad.


I don’t get a scum vibe from Vivax at all. Can you explain this read in detail?


Town read on gb and damdred
Town read on you for something he doesn't agree with
Mafia reads calix but then just says unemotionally she's not mafia and is in fact town.
Town reads rayn.
Town reads a million people for free.

Where is paranoia? Where is scum reads?


This further evolves into "I want Vivax dead", like out of nowhere?

On April 10 2018 02:20 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 10 2018 02:08 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 02:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 10 2018 01:56 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
[quote]
There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier?


Mafia!Vivax ignores it because he can't think of a legit explanation for it, duh. And he recently said he was 'too busy responding to other posts' to respond to mine so that would be the town!Vivax explanation.

So since he answered it and gave that explanation he isn't scum anymore right? Since that was a significant part of your earlier reasons


No because I still don't think he's done anything that 'townie' and his posts are more "meh" which is why I am happy with my current vote. If you think I am wrong then point out where he's done something townie and ELI5. I could be tunneled with "Vivax is underperforming mafia", I will admit, but I don't see anything convincing for him being town.

Furthermore, there is also a lot of resistance to his lynch and some pushes towards Skynx (who I think is town but we'll see how he responds to this EOD), n00b (I agree he hasn't posted many explicit reads but I am not convinced this is AI for him), myself (pretty terrible D1 lynch if I say so myself), etc.

@n00bking, I do not know much about Oats' play so I couldn't tell you, lol.

Literally the only resistance to his lynch is me what the heck.


I meant with wagons. Vivax/ Skynx tied. Calix/ n00b two votes. I would imagine there's a mafia on the line somewhere. I concluded Vivax because his wagon is the one that's most static and somehow hasn't exceeded three votes despite few people properly town-reading or going out on a leg to defend him.


bolded has been discussed before but its super scummy taking into consideration her earlier heavy scumread of vivax.
She then proceeds to townread both me and vivax out of tone, leaving noob as her only implied scumread but she doesn't vote???


An impressive number of falsehoods in this post.

- That first post was demanding an answer to a question, not making a case. Anyone reading the post would realise this.
- I didn't sheep HF's posts.
- I didn't scum-read n00b.
- I didn't town-read Vivax and you because of tone.

Did you actually read my filter or were you hoping nobody would check?

Your post doesn't even make sense as a narrative since none of the 'evidence' provided shows anything weird about my Vivax progression. And most of it is based on shit that isn't true at all. Amazing.

Saying it's ""super scummy"" multiple times won't make it so.

Where exactly you ever scumread Vivax?

Vivax/ Skynx tied. Calix/ n00b two votes. I would imagine there's a mafia on the line somewhere
After tr'ing me and Vivax, that leaves only n00b as a scumread.

You purely townread me for tone. Not gona look for it now but "he seems genuinely lost" something along those lines. If you didn't townread Vivax for tone can you please show why you cleared him?


I scum-read Vivax for most of the time in the hours leading up to EOD. And then got stupid paranoid about votes and changed my mind. Again, if you actually read my filter then you would know this already, lol.

That was more of a hypothetical point. I didn't literally have a POE with you three. But I can see someone think I scum-read n00b from that.

I have read your filter. I know you scumread him towards EoD but I didn't see any reason to scumread vivax other than that one thing i quoted, I wanna know where you begin scumreading him. If those are the actual reasons its super bad. If not thats why i implied a HF sheep cuz you voted around the same time when HF was getting a train going.

lol bullshit, "I would imagine there's a mafia on the line somewhere" then including those names means you think there is a scum between the four. Then you proceed to clear two of 4, one is you and then you now say n00b wasn't a scumread...
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 11 2018 18:02 GMT
#1507
I also don't like Exo one bit. His vote looks very bad now.

Although I don't think they are ever mafia together with Calix.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 11 2018 18:10 GMT
#1509
Damdred, Calix/Exo +1 sounds about right
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 11 2018 18:12 GMT
#1511
On April 12 2018 03:11 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2018 03:02 Skynx wrote:
I also don't like Exo one bit. His vote looks very bad now.

Although I don't think they are ever mafia together with Calix.


Think you're the first person who hasn't jumped to WICKED MAD bussing theories. You are scum-reading the townie of the two of us but you at least acknowledge it's not SvS. Baby steps.

I don't think its svs because you brought up most of the points why his vote sucked at the time even before n00b flipped. Hard to bus like that without reason.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 11 2018 18:20 GMT
#1513
On April 12 2018 03:15 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2018 03:12 Skynx wrote:
On April 12 2018 03:11 Calix wrote:
On April 12 2018 03:02 Skynx wrote:
I also don't like Exo one bit. His vote looks very bad now.

Although I don't think they are ever mafia together with Calix.


Think you're the first person who hasn't jumped to WICKED MAD bussing theories. You are scum-reading the townie of the two of us but you at least acknowledge it's not SvS. Baby steps.

I don't think its svs because you brought up most of the points why his vote sucked at the time even before n00b flipped. Hard to bus like that without reason.


Alright. May I ask why you still town-read Eversince? As in, why do you not find the point about the NK/ daypost discrepancy to be suspicious?

I agree with i dunno who brought it up that Eversince should just be ignored. After screwing up the claim like that either alignment knows he fucked up and will react like he did. Impossible to reach a conclusion and he's completely untrustworthy whatever he does from now on. What to do with him I'm not really sure though.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 11 2018 18:33 GMT
#1519
On April 12 2018 03:25 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2018 03:20 Skynx wrote:
On April 12 2018 03:15 Calix wrote:
On April 12 2018 03:12 Skynx wrote:
On April 12 2018 03:11 Calix wrote:
On April 12 2018 03:02 Skynx wrote:
I also don't like Exo one bit. His vote looks very bad now.

Although I don't think they are ever mafia together with Calix.


Think you're the first person who hasn't jumped to WICKED MAD bussing theories. You are scum-reading the townie of the two of us but you at least acknowledge it's not SvS. Baby steps.

I don't think its svs because you brought up most of the points why his vote sucked at the time even before n00b flipped. Hard to bus like that without reason.


Alright. May I ask why you still town-read Eversince? As in, why do you not find the point about the NK/ daypost discrepancy to be suspicious?

I agree with i dunno who brought it up that Eversince should just be ignored. After screwing up the claim like that either alignment knows he fucked up and will react like he did. Impossible to reach a conclusion and he's completely untrustworthy whatever he does from now on. What to do with him I'm not really sure though.


I'd argue that leaving Eversince alive is extremely risky and will distract town when it comes to scum-reads and making worlds. Because you will always be unsure whether she is legitimate or not. And unless we lynch a Roleblocker then this will not sort itself out. If you think situation is messy now then just think about potential LYLO scenarios.

The fact that she's done LESS game-solving since she claimed is also quite damning IMO.

Who is your 'POE' for third mafia?

Town shouldn't get distracted by his input. Right now he is a true 50/50 for reasons i just said. We probably just lynch him only after lynching two mafia and pretend he doesn't play the game, although its kinda rude.
There is a chance he gets confirmed before lylo, if we lynch rb or rb targets someone else or other claims make gs impossible/highly improbable etc. so i think that is the better play here.

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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 11 2018 18:34 GMT
#1520
What is POE? I didn't get to learn it in 2 years
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 11 2018 18:39 GMT
#1522
In meantime I'll vote for you ma'am begging your pardon.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 11 2018 18:41 GMT
#1524
On April 12 2018 03:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2018 03:34 Skynx wrote:
What is POE? I didn't get to learn it in 2 years


Path of exile.

Heard mixed reviews, i still play diablo 2.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 11 2018 19:02 GMT
#1530
On April 12 2018 03:52 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2018 03:39 Skynx wrote:
In meantime I'll vote for you ma'am begging your pardon.


Who do you think COULD be third mafia by Process Of Eliminating the people you think are town.

Thx. I'm still yet to have an opinion on Vivax and homeless, tube is also null to me right now, probably one of them (and/or ES). I'll actually just put out what i have atm:

HF, Oats, rayn
tube, vivax, homeless
Damdred, Calix/Exo (tvs)

ignore: ES


I'll definitely won't lynch into my town pile until 1 mafia is left and/or ES is dead. I've never actually played with scum!hf. scum!oats and scum!rayn fooled me once i think, so there are player capable of pulling off what they did so far as scum but I won't consider that possibility until dire need.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 11 2018 19:19 GMT
#1538
I'll go back to his filter with what i think is good and bad about you guys, I'm yet to do that so thats why.

I'll be applying some paint early tomorrow and have the rest of the day off for it to dry so i should be around most of the day leaving me plenty of time to do that.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 12 2018 11:32 GMT
#1667
Second one baby, you're never scum with Calix. Calix/Exo (tvs) in scumpile indicates one of two is scum
(tvs)


try harder plx
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 12 2018 11:35 GMT
#1668
On April 12 2018 07:05 Holyflare wrote:
And actually calix isn't so much of a scum read if es is mafia. Rayn is a town read.

why calix and es can't be together?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 12 2018 11:39 GMT
#1670
On April 12 2018 09:19 Tubesock wrote:
If you guys don’t want to off vote ES cause you don’t think Calix is mafia, then fine let’s kill Skynx. Or Exo or Damdred. I’ll support that but you’re all making a mistake on ES.

I don't see how you still scumread me when we scumread exact same people.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 12 2018 11:40 GMT
#1672
On April 12 2018 20:36 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2018 03:10 Skynx wrote:
Damdred, Calix/Exo +1 sounds about right



+ Show Spoiler +
On April 12 2018 03:20 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2018 03:15 Calix wrote:
On April 12 2018 03:12 Skynx wrote:
On April 12 2018 03:11 Calix wrote:
On April 12 2018 03:02 Skynx wrote:
I also don't like Exo one bit. His vote looks very bad now.

Although I don't think they are ever mafia together with Calix.


Think you're the first person who hasn't jumped to WICKED MAD bussing theories. You are scum-reading the townie of the two of us but you at least acknowledge it's not SvS. Baby steps.

I don't think its svs because you brought up most of the points why his vote sucked at the time even before n00b flipped. Hard to bus like that without reason.


Alright. May I ask why you still town-read Eversince? As in, why do you not find the point about the NK/ daypost discrepancy to be suspicious?

I agree with i dunno who brought it up that Eversince should just be ignored. After screwing up the claim like that either alignment knows he fucked up and will react like he did. Impossible to reach a conclusion and he's completely untrustworthy whatever he does from now on. What to do with him I'm not really sure though.



I think almost everyone here has had an opinion on ES, that's he's either more likely telling the truth, or he's scum. Skynkx is avoiding giving an opinion all together here and his scum list has just turned into whatever he can throw together. afk Damdred, and just throwing me and Calix together.


I'm pretty sold, Skynkx is scum.

Are you dumb or having reading disorder?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 12 2018 11:43 GMT
#1674
On April 12 2018 20:40 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2018 20:32 Skynx wrote:
Second one baby, you're never scum with Calix. Calix/Exo (tvs) in scumpile indicates one of two is scum
(tvs)


try harder plx


So your scum read is Damdred (who's afk) and either me or Calix. What's the case for me, what's the case for Calix? Does it matter to you who is considered scum,?

If you think Calix is scum you should 100% be town reading me.

I'm sheeping rayn case on Damdred, everything he says sounds about right.

On April 11 2018 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I agree with your stuff on Calix.

There was and is never anything wrong in my case on Exo. Furthermore the dude came in before the lynch and just casually asked "why is rayn scumreading me" when it says so in my post where i voted for him. But he was still aware of the wagons and had actually managed to read the thread well enough to make a judgement call on who to lynch, aka reading the thread but still not reading the thread, whatever suits him. Saying i should townread him because he does stupid shit as town too is just a nonsense defense. Then he adds me and Damdred to his scumreads because we "havent been playing much". Well actually he only adds me and Damdred is just "worrying". Funny thing is i have over twice the filter the dude himself has.
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2018 02:25 ExO_ wrote:
I don’t even know right now. I dont like any of the options after eversince. I switched vote to n00bking because I believe Vivax is town. Id rather be paired up with Vivax and claimed gunsmith eversince than GB and TS at this point.


Gonna filter dive skynk and n00bking right now on my lunch break

Never says anything about why Vivax is town other than Vivax feels town. That is not a read. I understand people scumreading Vivax if you don't know Vivax, i don't understand people townreading Vivax if they don't know Vivax at all, especially with reasoning "Vivax feels town". Let's see what the filter dive on noobking and Skynx reveals:
Show nested quote +
And side note trying to read n00bking filter is obonoxious as hell. I’ve never quite seen somebody consantly feel the need to use 20 words when 2 would suffice. Loves to bash TL mafia and toot his own horn like he’s the second coming in TL mafia, but isn’t really helping anybody. Its very hard to be objective towards him with this attitude. And any good player would know that constantly filling the thread with your own ego is more of a distraction to town than it is helping them.

This is not a scumread. None of this is saying why noobking is mafia. And Skynx, yeah apparently there was no Skynx filter dive after all.....

Someone said i scumread Damdred because Damdred is afk. That can't be further away from truth. I scumread Damdred because at the time he dropped his vote on Calix there was no reason to think Calix is mafia. Damdred will never ever as town vote for "one of the wagons", hell he will instead get lynched himself voting for his scumread, and he tends to post a list for "end game credits" or some other shit like that. Based on his last scumgame it's not even out of reality that he votes for his scumbuddy. But i have a very hard time seeing how the vote on Calix at that time is in any way justified. But it's okay, Damdred will probably have a good asnwer to this when he comes to the thread next time. Another thing is that after voting Calix Damdred is more interested in telling why i look bad rather than why the person he is voting for looks bad or is mafia, and some other random stuff like Skynx wagon looks like something i don't even understand. And how often Damdred says "I disagree on vivax. But I am often wrong". Dude is just trying to save Vivax from a votecount that looks "horrendous for town" (Vivax and Skynx leading -- Calix third), and that's all he can come up with? Okay.

I don't really have anything to say about kush. Dude is just probably mafia. Still hasn't done anything.

-----

And vivax is town because he actually fights for the stuff he says and gets angry when he tries to explain something and people dont get/believe what he says. Holyflare, it is very easy to get annoyed with you, because you can be really annoying -- i don't mean in a bad way but when you are super pushy it feels super annoying. Vivax still tries. And tries. Like i said, mafia!Vivax with 90% certainty wouldn't give a fuck and just drop dead, because that's what mafia!Vivax does. You can think he is mafia ll you want, you can think i am mafia all you want for my "flip-floppy" or whatever bullshit you said read on him. And i don't care but that's what i think.

I am also very fucking sorry i work exactly the last 8-10 hours of any phase so you better lynch me or shoot me dead then because the fact is i am not going to be around as much as any of your fucking highnesses would like me to on any eod.

If you've actually read my filter like you promissed 2 days ago you'll find out my arguments against you and Calix. Go do your job lol
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 12 2018 11:46 GMT
#1676
On April 12 2018 20:43 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2018 20:39 Skynx wrote:
On April 12 2018 09:19 Tubesock wrote:
If you guys don’t want to off vote ES cause you don’t think Calix is mafia, then fine let’s kill Skynx. Or Exo or Damdred. I’ll support that but you’re all making a mistake on ES.

I don't see how you still scumread me when we scumread exact same people.


this right here is so weird

like all 3 of you, tube exo voting calix

yet somehow you all read each other scum

someone help me figure that out i dont get it

ever is scum so by definition at least one of you 3 has to be town. yet you think ever is town and calix is scum, so...????

which one of you is just stupid?

i'm not townreading ever read my filter
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 12 2018 11:48 GMT
#1679
lol nvm its not in my filter 1 sec (exo reasons that is)
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Skynx
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#1681
On April 12 2018 20:51 currentlyhomeless wrote:
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On April 12 2018 20:46 Skynx wrote:
On April 12 2018 20:43 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 12 2018 20:39 Skynx wrote:
On April 12 2018 09:19 Tubesock wrote:
If you guys don’t want to off vote ES cause you don’t think Calix is mafia, then fine let’s kill Skynx. Or Exo or Damdred. I’ll support that but you’re all making a mistake on ES.

I don't see how you still scumread me when we scumread exact same people.


this right here is so weird

like all 3 of you, tube exo voting calix

yet somehow you all read each other scum

someone help me figure that out i dont get it

ever is scum so by definition at least one of you 3 has to be town. yet you think ever is town and calix is scum, so...????

which one of you is just stupid?

i'm not townreading ever read my filter


“ignore” is not a valid choice wtf

like there is no way both Calix and Ever are scum here. since ever is scum that basically makes Calix 100% town.

i think the only world where they are both scum is if damdred is scum and afk

that is well possible, I don't see why ever!scum makes calix town.
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April 12 2018 12:15 GMT
#1688
On April 10 2018 02:25 ExO_ wrote:
I don’t even know right now. I dont like any of the options after eversince. I switched vote to n00bking because I believe Vivax is town. Id rather be paired up with Vivax and claimed gunsmith eversince than GB and TS at this point.


Gonna filter dive skynk and n00bking right now on my lunch break

Yep right around here. Vivax (3), Skynx (3), Calix (2), n00b (1)

You townread vivax for "towny vibes"
On April 09 2018 21:08 ExO_ wrote:
mixed feelings on Vivax, and low post count doesn’t
help, but his thoughts on Calix and the reaction he had when Calix responded feel townie to me

On April 09 2018 22:05 ExO_ wrote:
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On April 09 2018 21:58 Calix wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:56 ExO_ wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax why are you mafia. So so sad.


I don’t get a scum vibe from Vivax at all. Can you explain this read in detail?


His evasion of his weird-arse read on me.

He called my reasons for scum!rayn "false".

He had also accused me of making facts up to scum-read him.

WHY DOES HE THINK I'M TOWN?


The impression I get is this:

He thinks you’re wrong, but that it doesn’t make you scum. However the language both of you are using has looked like its getting more heated. In particular right now you seem really frustrated and angry Calix

I’ll take another look at Vivaxs filter but he seems towny to me. In the mean time, what do you think of Holyflare right now Calix?

That I'll take another look at filter never happens.

And earlier you have this on Damdred:
On April 09 2018 21:44 ExO_ wrote:
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On April 09 2018 21:36 Calix wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:32 ExO_ wrote:
On April 09 2018 21:23 Calix wrote:
Took the liberty of making a vote count and town is well organised innit.

Eversince, who are you gonna vote for?

Would also like ExO_'s other mafia reads, or whoever he would vote for outside of his "placeholder" vote.

Day 1 Vote count
remaining




Eversince (3): Calix, raynpelikoneet, ExO_
Calix (2): GlowingBear, Oatsmaster
Holyflare (1): currentlyhomeless
GlowingBear (1): Skynx
n00bking (1): Vivax
Vivax (1): n00bking
Skynx (1): Tubesock
ExO_ (0): raynpelikoneet
Raynpelikoneet (0): Calix
Not Voting:
Holyflare, Eversince, Damdred



Currently Eversince is set to be lynched.
Voting is mandatory! Place votes in THIS THREAD (link)



Right now I don’t think I have any scum reads I’m super confident in but I’m not a fan of Damdreds 4 posts


Don't care about 'confident' reads. It's D1. Who else do you think has "above average odds for being mafia"?

Why don't you like Damdred's posts?



Damdred has essentially said nothing. He has one post greater than a sentence, and its saying that he doesnt think GB could fake enthusiam.

The Damdred I remember is wordy and analytical. He’s not present at all right now. I could see scum Damdred coasting the first couple days, and then try to make some excuse for it


Having all in that into consideration,
1) You have no opinion on Calix other than :his stuff with vivax sounds tvt" despite disagreeing on multiple stuff when she's on 2 votes, there is also this+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2018 04:17 Calix wrote:
We could like, vote ExO or something. A lot of people here think he's scummy but he's never really gained traction.


2) I'm the lead wagon but you say you gona filter dive me and you don't, you don't want to vote me cuz of other two ppl who you also don't have an opinion on
3) You vote n00b before you filterdive him just because Vivax votes him (who unvotes before you vote, when he's on 1 vote, when you filter dive him you only come up with this + Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2018 02:41 ExO_ wrote:
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On April 10 2018 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really dont like Vivax lynch. If i have to i will save him by voting Skynx but i dont really think he is mafia either. I would suggest strongly against voting for Calix. I have no idea about what noobking is because i dont rrally feel like he has said much anything.

Glowingbear started being terr8ble but thats probably town terrible.

I still want to lynch exo for what i have said earlier.
##unvote
##vote exo_


Enlighten me, why do you want to lynch me? I have 20 minutes left on my lunch.

And side note trying to read n00bking filter is obonoxious as hell. I’ve never quite seen somebody consantly feel the need to use 20 words when 2 would suffice. Loves to bash TL mafia and toot his own horn like he’s the second coming in TL mafia, but isn’t really helping anybody. Its very hard to be objective towards him with this attitude. And any good player would know that constantly filling the thread with your own ego is more of a distraction to town than it is helping them.


4) In the end you seem to have more reason to scumread damdred than anyone yet you don't vote him

Doesn't add up, your vote on n00b is terrible, it basically comes out of thin air.

Calix can't be scum with you cuz she brought some of these up at some point
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April 12 2018 12:19 GMT
#1689
Yeah sorry i thought i made a post similar to this before i called your vote bad but apparently not
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April 12 2018 12:40 GMT
#1690
On April 12 2018 20:54 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 12 2018 20:35 Skynx wrote:
On April 12 2018 07:05 Holyflare wrote:
And actually calix isn't so much of a scum read if es is mafia. Rayn is a town read.

why calix and es can't be together?


She was the first to initially make a case on es which would have lynched es if she didn't claim. Now she's on the es wagon. There's a possibility that she could be mafia with es and I think my points still hold but I'm reserving judgement for now.

hmm fair point
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Skynx
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April 12 2018 14:27 GMT
#1692
Vivax can you explain what you've done since n00bking flip?. There is no scumhunting at all. It's like you're living on your own world to make up reasons that fit with whatever you're saying.

On April 11 2018 01:35 Vivax wrote:
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On April 11 2018 01:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 11 2018 01:27 Vivax wrote:
His townreads are very few, his null reads don't interest him and he just keeps attacking obvious townies at every opening he finds. That's mafia HF, game.

Who are the obvious townies he is attacking other than ever?


I can count Damdred, rayn and ES (if the claim is reason for you that she's obvious townie although I'd await what happens next first) . You are basically the only guy he's leaving alone.

Hipster reads like this, you throw them away like candies. You townread Damdred for whatever reason while damdy was around in first hours of the game. This is the second mention of Damdred in the filter after calling for damdred to be more active nearly 3 days ago... then you just incliude a random Damdred townread out of nowhere???

Is there a coherent thought process behind your scum pile? Something like "lol does these actually makes sense with eachother" ? I wanna know how you go between these two and now that you're voting ES, who does that clear and why/
On April 11 2018 02:26 Vivax wrote:
Holyflare/Calix/Kush

ggnore

On April 11 2018 10:39 Vivax wrote:
HF/Rayn/Calix my current guess with chance of skynx somewhere.


on rayn sr:
On April 11 2018 06:02 Vivax wrote:
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On April 11 2018 05:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey rayn, lynch today is who?



Great question considering the way he posted it he could do anything just like yesterday cause that ExO vote really sucked purely cause it was never going to happen the way he went about it.

180ing my read on rayn right now. I will pick up where GB stopped. But I think the team is somewhere along rayn/Calix/HF or rayn/HF/kush in light of recent events. Mostly cause it leads to the NK making sense. Calix stopped posting abruptly and should be the first lynch. Her or HF. Either way calix is being thrown under the bus heavily here and doesn't need to keep playing.

This is pretty much saying "I'm scumreading x, these must be scum team in light of recent events" no reasoning for the scumreads except the bolded. I mean isn't this where you point out whats wrong with nk's and how they relate to rayn being scum? Or perhaps explain the recent events?

on clearing homeless:
On April 11 2018 10:38 Vivax wrote:
But CH is town 100 % at least that much is clear from this exchange. That's actually awesome.

Rest pls look at the exchange, p65-67. I mean homeless just scumreads HF cuz hf tr's ES? I don't see how homeless suddenly gets a 100% read switch like rayn just like that.

On me:
On April 10 2018 08:26 Vivax wrote:
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On April 10 2018 08:25 Eversince wrote:
I think your town, I don't think all your reads are right but we just lynched someone I thought would flip red. He was town so I can be wrong too r.r. I think that you being open about saying why you draw conclusion that you do probably makes you town. Even if I don't agree with the read. You're not trying to loll people into following an incorrect read with it. Thus 'if it's wrong' town/scum [t] vs making the same play as mafia.


I hope I will be proven right that n00bking was mostly voting with mafia when the game is over, cause that's how it feels like to me right now.

Need to do a skynx reread, but am pretty biased cause he didn't choose to hammer me. Dunno.

Have you done a re-read? What makes you think there is a chance of me being scum along with trio above? You've been shouting stuff like this after the flip:
On April 11 2018 02:22 Vivax wrote:
Well basically the only guy who could be mafia with me would be skynx cause his vote allowed me to get the hammer off myself and I had been voting him before so you would have to be arguing that I was trying to lynch my teammate.

Ergo you can't still think I'm mafia.

I mean if you believe what happens there so blindly, shouldn't that warrant like "skynx locked town" or something? But instead we get "chance of skynx mafia somewhere". Explain pls.
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April 12 2018 14:39 GMT
#1695
So that logic works for clearing you but not me?
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April 12 2018 14:44 GMT
#1696
Actually don't worry. Even without rayn and homeless stuff I believe you fabricated skynx scumlean and damdred townread out of thin air so i think that makes you mafia.
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April 12 2018 17:44 GMT
#1740
homeless filter is so meh, I dunno how ppl are townreading him.

He could be a matured chezinu
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April 12 2018 17:46 GMT
#1741
I also agree with tube about everything except me being scum so he can be town.
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April 12 2018 17:53 GMT
#1742
I also don't think ES is a better lynch than Calix. There is a billion reasons to scumread Calix, while ES could be town who just fucked up bigtime and scum is laughing their ass of cuz they didn't have to nk him. He could also be mafia who fucked up bigtime and I'll look like a dipshit postgame but hey thats why its a 50/50 and we shouldn't lynch him because there is no way of objectively deciding on his alignment based on gameplay, its just guts at this point.

Eversince should just be ignored. After screwing up the claim like that either alignment knows he fucked up and will react like he did. Impossible to reach a conclusion and he's completely untrustworthy whatever he does from now on. What to do with him I'm not really sure though[...]

Town shouldn't get distracted by his input. Right now he is a true 50/50 for reasons i just said. We probably just lynch him only after lynching two mafia and pretend he doesn't play the game, although its kinda rude.
There is a chance he gets confirmed before lylo, if we lynch rb or rb targets someone else or other claims make gs impossible/highly improbable etc.
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April 12 2018 18:04 GMT
#1747
On April 13 2018 02:56 Vivax wrote:
Figuring out who is mafia is really just figuring out who gives a shit about the game FOR REAL like when I called out mooosy just coming back into the thread asking lazy questions in bulk that he could have read easily.

Or in our case figuring out that ES bases her rayn conf town read off there being a single NK and then not caring about who the NK was?

Yeah but what if the gut read is wrong and you could've lynched mafia following reason and logic?
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April 12 2018 18:08 GMT
#1751
On April 13 2018 03:07 Vivax wrote:
And you have clearly proven you can't follow reason and logic by not acknowledging that the D1 voting makes me town.

I think you're the only one who's acknowledging that
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April 12 2018 18:09 GMT
#1753
On April 13 2018 03:07 Vivax wrote:
But hey you can be the tinfoiling one like HF and argue both my scum buddies were afk at EoD when it looked like I was getting lynched

That happened so many times in past year and a half i lost count.
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April 12 2018 18:16 GMT
#1754
On April 13 2018 03:09 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 03:07 Vivax wrote:
But hey you can be the tinfoiling one like HF and argue both my scum buddies were afk at EoD when it looked like I was getting lynched

That happened so many times in past year and a half i lost count.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/523282-tl-mafia-lxxv?page=82#1627
never forget
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April 12 2018 18:18 GMT
#1755
On April 13 2018 03:16 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 03:09 Skynx wrote:
On April 13 2018 03:07 Vivax wrote:
But hey you can be the tinfoiling one like HF and argue both my scum buddies were afk at EoD when it looked like I was getting lynched

That happened so many times in past year and a half i lost count.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/523282-tl-mafia-lxxv?page=82#1627
never forget

tvs and only scum voting on counter wagon is the other wagon
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Skynx
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April 12 2018 18:30 GMT
#1758
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528650-mafia-mafia-mafia-mafia?page=30#596
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April 12 2018 18:34 GMT
#1761
Scum don't care these days and either way it doesn't matter. It is well within the realm of possibilities that town can do stupid stuff like that and you might aswell be like "lol ok i guess i hammer n00b". Plus i was clueless at eod and it looks more and more like you took advantage of it. You're the only one that sees d1 flip as confirming you as town. I suggest you take a walk or something to free your mind.
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April 12 2018 19:34 GMT
#1770
Go ahead and make associations Vivax, entertain me.
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April 12 2018 19:37 GMT
#1771
Anyway, nada cambia, Calix next.
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April 13 2018 16:00 GMT
#1958
Homeless might actually be Vivax

I'm trying to decide how much i should care about this game. On a scale of 10 to just fucking lynch Vivax tomorrow cuz of how obnoxious he's been I'm currently at 5.
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April 13 2018 20:19 GMT
#1982
Nice. Probably Calix+Vivax the rest.
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April 13 2018 20:21 GMT
#1984
HF having no townreads while not shouting at everyone in thread to stop being terrible was already indicative.
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April 13 2018 20:37 GMT
#1995
On April 14 2018 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2018 05:31 ExO_ wrote:
On April 14 2018 05:25 Holyflare wrote:
On April 14 2018 05:16 ExO_ wrote:
I'm the Parity Cop.

I've bread Crumbed this here:

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:
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On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:
On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.

Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too.


Huh?


If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear.



This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking.

It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time




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On April 10 2018 02:25 ExO_ wrote:
I don’t even know right now. I dont like any of the options after eversince. I switched vote to n00bking because I believe Vivax is town. Id rather be paired up with Vivax and claimed gunsmith eversince than GB and TS at this point.


Gonna filter dive skynk and n00bking right now on my lunch break




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On April 10 2018 20:21 ExO_ wrote:
The more I read your filter Calix the less I like. You have a lot of posts, and it makes me hesitate. However at the end of day yesterday you didn't seem to care at all. A lot of your posts have been heavily argumentative and geared towards upsetting other players and I think distracting them.

Post like this:
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On April 10 2018 04:40 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
Insert berating comment here


"I told you so" after a mislynch is quite scummy, good sir.

Flipping your read on me from super-town to super-mafia because I...took a warning over simply voting for someone...makes no sense.


You stop short of calling HF scum here. You say his action is scummy but don't call him scum. Like wtf is that?

I'm not sure who else I'd pair you with right now, but you're at the top of my scum list right now.




I checked Rayn Night 1 and HolyFlare Night 2. I alluded to this twice:


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On April 13 2018 12:36 ExO_ wrote:
I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.

Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team.

Sheeping you Vivax.

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On April 12 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:
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On April 12 2018 20:58 Holyflare wrote:
On April 12 2018 20:57 ExO_ wrote:
HF do you not find skynx here scummy as hell? Like Damdred and either myself/calix are his scum reads. He doesn't even provide a reason for scum reading me but says "read my filter".

Scum scum scum


I find both of you scummy.


Why are you scum reading me exactly, because I believe eversince is town?

Scum reading me with Skynkx would be like me putting you with Rayn -- there's no damn way I'm on a scum team together with Skynx.




HolyFlare and Rayn are different alignments.

I believe between the two HF is scum especially considering his play day 2/night 2.

##Vote: HolyFlare


Also you keep saying this and I want you to explain it. Why has my day 2/n2 play been terrible in the slightest? Did you ever answer my questions on you?


I believe day 2 you didn’t push the thread for scum. I believe you were far too content on the eversince lynch, and town Hf wouldn’t just sette for that. I believe you’ve nitpicked at incosnsitencies instead of discussing with people to try to find scum.

and between you and Rayn, I believe rayn is town. If he was scum, (therefore received the gun from eversince) why do we not have two dead today?

I ask myself whats more likely—scum Rayn holding onto shot to wifom, or scum HF and ES was blocked so Rayn never received the gun. I think taking the entire picture in, scum HF is more likely.

If you are town you have to convince me otherwise. Because right now I think Rayn is a helluva lot more towny than you.


If rayn has a gun he wouldn't shoot it now. He would shoot it tomorrow night after a mislynch today.

It's more likely that mafia blocked Eversince though. Why do you assume he would have a gun?

So mafia would have a vigshot and end the game a day earlier. If rayn is mafia that is.
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April 13 2018 20:38 GMT
#1998
Also Tube claim was pretty unnecessary.
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#2002
HF, would you as mafia prefer to have a vigshot for free or not. Pretty obvvious he wasn't rb'd.
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April 13 2018 20:42 GMT
#2003
On April 14 2018 05:40 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2018 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
On April 14 2018 05:31 ExO_ wrote:
On April 14 2018 05:25 Holyflare wrote:
On April 14 2018 05:16 ExO_ wrote:
I'm the Parity Cop.

I've bread Crumbed this here:

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:
On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.

Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too.


Huh?


If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear.



This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking.

It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time




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On April 10 2018 02:25 ExO_ wrote:
I don’t even know right now. I dont like any of the options after eversince. I switched vote to n00bking because I believe Vivax is town. Id rather be paired up with Vivax and claimed gunsmith eversince than GB and TS at this point.


Gonna filter dive skynk and n00bking right now on my lunch break




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On April 10 2018 20:21 ExO_ wrote:
The more I read your filter Calix the less I like. You have a lot of posts, and it makes me hesitate. However at the end of day yesterday you didn't seem to care at all. A lot of your posts have been heavily argumentative and geared towards upsetting other players and I think distracting them.

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On April 10 2018 04:40 Calix wrote:
On April 10 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
Insert berating comment here


"I told you so" after a mislynch is quite scummy, good sir.

Flipping your read on me from super-town to super-mafia because I...took a warning over simply voting for someone...makes no sense.


You stop short of calling HF scum here. You say his action is scummy but don't call him scum. Like wtf is that?

I'm not sure who else I'd pair you with right now, but you're at the top of my scum list right now.




I checked Rayn Night 1 and HolyFlare Night 2. I alluded to this twice:


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On April 13 2018 12:36 ExO_ wrote:
I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.

Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team.

Sheeping you Vivax.

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On April 12 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:
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On April 12 2018 20:58 Holyflare wrote:
On April 12 2018 20:57 ExO_ wrote:
HF do you not find skynx here scummy as hell? Like Damdred and either myself/calix are his scum reads. He doesn't even provide a reason for scum reading me but says "read my filter".

Scum scum scum


I find both of you scummy.


Why are you scum reading me exactly, because I believe eversince is town?

Scum reading me with Skynkx would be like me putting you with Rayn -- there's no damn way I'm on a scum team together with Skynx.




HolyFlare and Rayn are different alignments.

I believe between the two HF is scum especially considering his play day 2/night 2.

##Vote: HolyFlare


Also you keep saying this and I want you to explain it. Why has my day 2/n2 play been terrible in the slightest? Did you ever answer my questions on you?


I believe day 2 you didn’t push the thread for scum. I believe you were far too content on the eversince lynch, and town Hf wouldn’t just sette for that. I believe you’ve nitpicked at incosnsitencies instead of discussing with people to try to find scum.

and between you and Rayn, I believe rayn is town. If he was scum, (therefore received the gun from eversince) why do we not have two dead today?

I ask myself whats more likely—scum Rayn holding onto shot to wifom, or scum HF and ES was blocked so Rayn never received the gun. I think taking the entire picture in, scum HF is more likely.

If you are town you have to convince me otherwise. Because right now I think Rayn is a helluva lot more towny than you.


If rayn has a gun he wouldn't shoot it now. He would shoot it tomorrow night after a mislynch today.

It's more likely that mafia blocked Eversince though. Why do you assume he would have a gun?



I don’t think he has a gun.

HF over rayn cause feels. But I town them both. I don’t think I believe you. But I’ll think more about it. I don’t think we can have three blues even if they’re paired down.

I disagree. Two weak investigative + 1 weak prot is pretty standard no?
Vig can't shoot n1, no copcheck for d2. They can rb kill you if you claimed (assuming there is one). Don't think its imba.
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April 13 2018 20:48 GMT
#2011
Why did you claim Tube? You were tr'd by almost all except for mafia no?
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April 13 2018 20:51 GMT
#2016
On April 14 2018 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 14 2018 05:40 Skynx wrote:
HF, would you as mafia prefer to have a vigshot for free or not. Pretty obvvious he wasn't rb'd.


I would have assumed the gun was going to me and not rayn and not rb'd Eversince since that's what we decided and even made polls about. Rayn has confirmed he doesn't have a gun so if you think he's town then mafia blocked Eversince. If you think he's mafia then I also think they would have assumed it went to me.

I have to check back to see if ES declared it openly before n1 flip. I'd assume so cuz everyone asked rayn if he had the gun. I don't think more than 3 ppl noticed your poll.
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#2022
On April 14 2018 05:56 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 14 2018 05:51 Skynx wrote:
On April 14 2018 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
On April 14 2018 05:40 Skynx wrote:
HF, would you as mafia prefer to have a vigshot for free or not. Pretty obvvious he wasn't rb'd.


I would have assumed the gun was going to me and not rayn and not rb'd Eversince since that's what we decided and even made polls about. Rayn has confirmed he doesn't have a gun so if you think he's town then mafia blocked Eversince. If you think he's mafia then I also think they would have assumed it went to me.

I have to check back to see if ES declared it openly before n1 flip. I'd assume so cuz everyone asked rayn if he had the gun. I don't think more than 3 ppl noticed your poll.


Nah I've read it she said it way before deadline was giving to rayn. Rayn could actually have a gun. I don't think he does though because he's right that he pointed out he didn't and Eversince could just cc if she didn't have a gun.

Then wtf are you doing right now not screaming town to lynch rayn? If you're town that means rayn is mafia with a gun and game is over if we lynch you...
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April 13 2018 21:05 GMT
#2024
The fact that rayn and hf not voting eachother right now is so hmmmmm
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April 13 2018 21:06 GMT
#2026
Anyway, I believe both claims right now. No reason not to really, setup looks fine to me and Calix is the lynch after HF regardless if she claims or not.
If we do that we only lose if mafia is exactly Calix+rayn which i don't find very likely cuz of how embarrassed Calix looked after her ragepush on rayn was dismissed so rapidly.

I think following is trademark HF scumtell, he faked it well on eod1 though I'll give him credit.
On April 14 2018 05:21 Skynx wrote:
HF having no townreads while not shouting at everyone in thread to stop being terrible was already indicative.

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April 13 2018 21:08 GMT
#2028
On April 14 2018 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am running a scenario where exo is mafia with vivax and calix. If his claim is believed town auto loses the game and he basically saves his team as those three are the most wanted lynches today.

But i dont know if that team makes sense. I have to check but its not going to happen until tomorrow morning when i am off work.

In that case i think he'd be bussing Calix right from the gate here and saddle the credit to victory.
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#2031
On April 14 2018 06:08 Holyflare wrote:
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On April 14 2018 06:02 Skynx wrote:
On April 14 2018 05:56 Holyflare wrote:
On April 14 2018 05:51 Skynx wrote:
On April 14 2018 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
On April 14 2018 05:40 Skynx wrote:
HF, would you as mafia prefer to have a vigshot for free or not. Pretty obvvious he wasn't rb'd.


I would have assumed the gun was going to me and not rayn and not rb'd Eversince since that's what we decided and even made polls about. Rayn has confirmed he doesn't have a gun so if you think he's town then mafia blocked Eversince. If you think he's mafia then I also think they would have assumed it went to me.

I have to check back to see if ES declared it openly before n1 flip. I'd assume so cuz everyone asked rayn if he had the gun. I don't think more than 3 ppl noticed your poll.


Nah I've read it she said it way before deadline was giving to rayn. Rayn could actually have a gun. I don't think he does though because he's right that he pointed out he didn't and Eversince could just cc if she didn't have a gun.

Then wtf are you doing right now not screaming town to lynch rayn? If you're town that means rayn is mafia with a gun and game is over if we lynch you...


No it doesn't?

6-3 right now. 5-3 with lynch, 3-3 with nk + vigshot.
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#2032
Lol we caught scumflare I'm proud.
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#2037
On April 14 2018 06:14 Holyflare wrote:
Why do you also believe exo your biggest scum read?

I don't see a scenario here where he fakeclaims as scum.
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#2038
Anyway off to bed.
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#2140
On April 14 2018 15:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
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On April 14 2018 13:04 ExO_ wrote:
You guys have got to be fucking kidding me. We have a check on Rayn and HF. One is scum. Yet everyone seems to have the opinion “they cant be scum because there’s got to be a miller or framer”

You’ve gotta be kidding me. Are your egos all this huge? That yours reads are so good that the check just has to be wrong in some super unlikely way or another?

Nobody has presented a compelling case for this in my opinion. And I dont believe for a second its in our interest to vote a 3rd candidate here.


Ill eat my words if there is a framer or miller, but we deserve to lose if we can’t get it together, look at Rayn, look at HF, and figure out which one is scum.


what kind of compelling “case” do you expect if i think they are both town

if i think they are both town one was framed or is a miller. end of story. yes the likelihood of that with nothing else happened in the game is lower but i dont need to make a case to say its more likely. just read the game, rayn has been trying hard especially recently to figure out the game with me and had very good posts. for example theres no way as scum that he would point out where credit is due when i found something on ever (unless he was scum trying to set me up to die? but i dont get this impression at all)

hf is an asshole at times but a lot of the things he has said only make sense from town perspective. most of his townreads seem logical now even if it takes him a while to get there

therefore both town, reads > unreliable blue checks

i am more than 70% sure that they are both town and the check is nowhere near 70-80% certainty that one is scum because if there is a framer in this game literally the best targets are rayn and hf. if there is a framer in the game, like 90%+ certainty one of those 2 gets framed regardless of alignment. unless they are the framer themselves lol

as for miller, let’s say there is one miller and what. 5 vts? 6 vts?

3 scum + miller + 3 blues = 7, 13 - 7 = 6

so miller & 6 VTs. 3 VTs already flipped so remaining non blues are 3 VTs and miller

so if they are both town, chance that one of them is miller is 50%

rofl

lol currentlyclueless, where do you get your fucking odds?

Framer+Miller
Rayn is framed/miller, hf is green: 2/12*6/10=0.1
rayn is green, hf is f/m: 9/12*2/10=0.15

Even assuming framer+miller odds of correct redcheck is still 60% which means we should lynch one of rayn/hf
Assuming there is a gf, both of them are mafia so still lynch one of rayn/hf
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April 14 2018 08:53 GMT
#2142
Bah Tubesock is full tinfoil mode and homeless is mafia.

It's not too bad actually, if rayn and Oats are sane we should still have the lynch.
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#2144
On April 14 2018 17:55 currentlyhomeless wrote:
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On April 14 2018 17:48 Skynx wrote:
On April 14 2018 15:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 14 2018 13:04 ExO_ wrote:
You guys have got to be fucking kidding me. We have a check on Rayn and HF. One is scum. Yet everyone seems to have the opinion “they cant be scum because there’s got to be a miller or framer”

You’ve gotta be kidding me. Are your egos all this huge? That yours reads are so good that the check just has to be wrong in some super unlikely way or another?

Nobody has presented a compelling case for this in my opinion. And I dont believe for a second its in our interest to vote a 3rd candidate here.


Ill eat my words if there is a framer or miller, but we deserve to lose if we can’t get it together, look at Rayn, look at HF, and figure out which one is scum.


what kind of compelling “case” do you expect if i think they are both town

if i think they are both town one was framed or is a miller. end of story. yes the likelihood of that with nothing else happened in the game is lower but i dont need to make a case to say its more likely. just read the game, rayn has been trying hard especially recently to figure out the game with me and had very good posts. for example theres no way as scum that he would point out where credit is due when i found something on ever (unless he was scum trying to set me up to die? but i dont get this impression at all)

hf is an asshole at times but a lot of the things he has said only make sense from town perspective. most of his townreads seem logical now even if it takes him a while to get there

therefore both town, reads > unreliable blue checks

i am more than 70% sure that they are both town and the check is nowhere near 70-80% certainty that one is scum because if there is a framer in this game literally the best targets are rayn and hf. if there is a framer in the game, like 90%+ certainty one of those 2 gets framed regardless of alignment. unless they are the framer themselves lol

as for miller, let’s say there is one miller and what. 5 vts? 6 vts?

3 scum + miller + 3 blues = 7, 13 - 7 = 6

so miller & 6 VTs. 3 VTs already flipped so remaining non blues are 3 VTs and miller

so if they are both town, chance that one of them is miller is 50%

rofl

lol currentlyclueless, where do you get your fucking odds?

Framer+Miller
Rayn is framed/miller, hf is green: 2/12*6/10=0.1
rayn is green, hf is f/m: 9/12*2/10=0.15

Even assuming framer+miller odds of correct redcheck is still 60% which means we should lynch one of rayn/hf
Assuming there is a gf, both of them are mafia so still lynch one of rayn/hf


wow you mustve failed math, reading, or both

50% is the chance one of them is a miller given that both rayn and HF are town. in other words if they are both town, the check is a coinflip between returning “same” and “different”

who the fuck knows why you are dividing by 12 when there are only 9 people alive, or why your two fucking symmetric situations have different numbers

I don't think even kush can get this high.

First statement is complete bollocks. Bolded is just a fucking assumption and nothing more. There is a different check: so one of them is different alignment to the other with 5 mechanics assumed= 3 mafia, 1 frame, 1 miller = 40% chance of fake red.

9 ppl alive means jack shit, odds are taken when the checks take place. Pls go back to your corner near the dumpster.
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#2145
I'll make that simpler for your soft brain.

WE HAVE UNCC'D DIFFERENT CHECK. ONE OF THEM IS RED. 60% CHANCE THAT RED IS REAL MAFIA = LYNCH.
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#2148
On April 14 2018 18:07 currentlyhomeless wrote:
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On April 14 2018 18:01 Skynx wrote:
On April 14 2018 17:55 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 14 2018 17:48 Skynx wrote:
On April 14 2018 15:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 14 2018 13:04 ExO_ wrote:
You guys have got to be fucking kidding me. We have a check on Rayn and HF. One is scum. Yet everyone seems to have the opinion “they cant be scum because there’s got to be a miller or framer”

You’ve gotta be kidding me. Are your egos all this huge? That yours reads are so good that the check just has to be wrong in some super unlikely way or another?

Nobody has presented a compelling case for this in my opinion. And I dont believe for a second its in our interest to vote a 3rd candidate here.


Ill eat my words if there is a framer or miller, but we deserve to lose if we can’t get it together, look at Rayn, look at HF, and figure out which one is scum.


what kind of compelling “case” do you expect if i think they are both town

if i think they are both town one was framed or is a miller. end of story. yes the likelihood of that with nothing else happened in the game is lower but i dont need to make a case to say its more likely. just read the game, rayn has been trying hard especially recently to figure out the game with me and had very good posts. for example theres no way as scum that he would point out where credit is due when i found something on ever (unless he was scum trying to set me up to die? but i dont get this impression at all)

hf is an asshole at times but a lot of the things he has said only make sense from town perspective. most of his townreads seem logical now even if it takes him a while to get there

therefore both town, reads > unreliable blue checks

i am more than 70% sure that they are both town and the check is nowhere near 70-80% certainty that one is scum because if there is a framer in this game literally the best targets are rayn and hf. if there is a framer in the game, like 90%+ certainty one of those 2 gets framed regardless of alignment. unless they are the framer themselves lol

as for miller, let’s say there is one miller and what. 5 vts? 6 vts?

3 scum + miller + 3 blues = 7, 13 - 7 = 6

so miller & 6 VTs. 3 VTs already flipped so remaining non blues are 3 VTs and miller

so if they are both town, chance that one of them is miller is 50%

rofl

lol currentlyclueless, where do you get your fucking odds?

Framer+Miller
Rayn is framed/miller, hf is green: 2/12*6/10=0.1
rayn is green, hf is f/m: 9/12*2/10=0.15

Even assuming framer+miller odds of correct redcheck is still 60% which means we should lynch one of rayn/hf
Assuming there is a gf, both of them are mafia so still lynch one of rayn/hf


wow you mustve failed math, reading, or both

50% is the chance one of them is a miller given that both rayn and HF are town. in other words if they are both town, the check is a coinflip between returning “same” and “different”

who the fuck knows why you are dividing by 12 when there are only 9 people alive, or why your two fucking symmetric situations have different numbers

I don't think even kush can get this high.

First statement is complete bollocks. Bolded is just a fucking assumption and nothing more. There is a different check: so one of them is different alignment to the other with 5 mechanics assumed= 3 mafia, 1 frame, 1 miller = 40% chance of fake red.

9 ppl alive means jack shit, odds are taken when the checks take place. Pls go back to your corner near the dumpster.


holy shit you did fail math

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_probability

there are 9 people left in the game. 3 people are scum. you’re telling me the probability RIGHT NOW that any one player is scum independently is 3/12??

why would you even divide by 12 there are fucking 13 players total

anyway the math is pretty fucking easy. there are 9 players. 2 are claimed blues. 3 are scum. that leaves 4 townies unaccounted for.

assuming there are no more blues, if there is a miller in the game then the chance that any one of those 4 is a miller is 25%

if you pick any pair and ask if there’s a miller in the pair it’s 4 choose 2 = 6 pairs. of those 6 pairs 3 have a miller in them

so even they are both town the check returns “different” 50% pf the time

You're doubting the credibility of the checks. How many ppl are alive is entirely irrelevant. 12 ppl alive for 1st check, 10 for second.
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#2149
On April 14 2018 18:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
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On April 14 2018 18:06 Skynx wrote:
I'll make that simpler for your soft brain.

WE HAVE UNCC'D DIFFERENT CHECK. ONE OF THEM IS RED. 60% CHANCE THAT RED IS REAL MAFIA = LYNCH.


you realize that the probability that one of them is scum and the probability that the check was true are two different things right

i have no idea what this 60% number youre talking about even means cause your math makes no sense.

60% is the credibility of the redcheck in worstcase scenario with a miller and framer.

Exo had 1 red and 1 green. Green being fake is irrelevant cuz he'd be mafia too and we means we lynch him.
red check happens only 5 times, 3 mafia and 2 alignment changing mechanics. 3/5 is the times red check is legit.
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#2150
Like i have no idea what you're thinking with "50% chance one of them is miller".
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#2153
ok gg
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#2156
On April 14 2018 18:18 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2018 18:12 Skynx wrote:
On April 14 2018 18:07 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 14 2018 18:01 Skynx wrote:
On April 14 2018 17:55 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 14 2018 17:48 Skynx wrote:
On April 14 2018 15:09 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 14 2018 13:04 ExO_ wrote:
You guys have got to be fucking kidding me. We have a check on Rayn and HF. One is scum. Yet everyone seems to have the opinion “they cant be scum because there’s got to be a miller or framer”

You’ve gotta be kidding me. Are your egos all this huge? That yours reads are so good that the check just has to be wrong in some super unlikely way or another?

Nobody has presented a compelling case for this in my opinion. And I dont believe for a second its in our interest to vote a 3rd candidate here.


Ill eat my words if there is a framer or miller, but we deserve to lose if we can’t get it together, look at Rayn, look at HF, and figure out which one is scum.


what kind of compelling “case” do you expect if i think they are both town

if i think they are both town one was framed or is a miller. end of story. yes the likelihood of that with nothing else happened in the game is lower but i dont need to make a case to say its more likely. just read the game, rayn has been trying hard especially recently to figure out the game with me and had very good posts. for example theres no way as scum that he would point out where credit is due when i found something on ever (unless he was scum trying to set me up to die? but i dont get this impression at all)

hf is an asshole at times but a lot of the things he has said only make sense from town perspective. most of his townreads seem logical now even if it takes him a while to get there

therefore both town, reads > unreliable blue checks

i am more than 70% sure that they are both town and the check is nowhere near 70-80% certainty that one is scum because if there is a framer in this game literally the best targets are rayn and hf. if there is a framer in the game, like 90%+ certainty one of those 2 gets framed regardless of alignment. unless they are the framer themselves lol

as for miller, let’s say there is one miller and what. 5 vts? 6 vts?

3 scum + miller + 3 blues = 7, 13 - 7 = 6

so miller & 6 VTs. 3 VTs already flipped so remaining non blues are 3 VTs and miller

so if they are both town, chance that one of them is miller is 50%

rofl

lol currentlyclueless, where do you get your fucking odds?

Framer+Miller
Rayn is framed/miller, hf is green: 2/12*6/10=0.1
rayn is green, hf is f/m: 9/12*2/10=0.15

Even assuming framer+miller odds of correct redcheck is still 60% which means we should lynch one of rayn/hf
Assuming there is a gf, both of them are mafia so still lynch one of rayn/hf


wow you mustve failed math, reading, or both

50% is the chance one of them is a miller given that both rayn and HF are town. in other words if they are both town, the check is a coinflip between returning “same” and “different”

who the fuck knows why you are dividing by 12 when there are only 9 people alive, or why your two fucking symmetric situations have different numbers

I don't think even kush can get this high.

First statement is complete bollocks. Bolded is just a fucking assumption and nothing more. There is a different check: so one of them is different alignment to the other with 5 mechanics assumed= 3 mafia, 1 frame, 1 miller = 40% chance of fake red.

9 ppl alive means jack shit, odds are taken when the checks take place. Pls go back to your corner near the dumpster.


holy shit you did fail math

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conditional_probability

there are 9 people left in the game. 3 people are scum. you’re telling me the probability RIGHT NOW that any one player is scum independently is 3/12??

why would you even divide by 12 there are fucking 13 players total

anyway the math is pretty fucking easy. there are 9 players. 2 are claimed blues. 3 are scum. that leaves 4 townies unaccounted for.

assuming there are no more blues, if there is a miller in the game then the chance that any one of those 4 is a miller is 25%

if you pick any pair and ask if there’s a miller in the pair it’s 4 choose 2 = 6 pairs. of those 6 pairs 3 have a miller in them

so even they are both town the check returns “different” 50% pf the time

You're doubting the credibility of the checks. How many ppl are alive is entirely irrelevant. 12 ppl alive for 1st check, 10 for second.


holy fuckballs

we are talking about millers, a miller is a fucking role

if there is a miller, when someone flips NONMILLER the chance of everyone else being a miller goes up. not fucking rocket science. this is why the number of people alive mayters

if you have 4 townies and 1 miller, if you checked a townie n1 it was a 20% chance they were a miller

after 3 of the townies die and flip VT the chance is now 50% you checked a miller because 3 fucking VTs flipped. and obviously if the miller flips the chance is 0. the chance doesn’t magically stay 20% because that’s how many players were alive when you checked

jesus

yeah i fucked up sry

still 1/4 tho?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 14 2018 09:24 GMT
#2157
But whatever we lost anyway.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 14 2018 16:10 GMT
#2259
Yeh, my level of care has gone down to zero. Enjoy your lynch, worst town I've seen in a while.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 14 2018 19:06 GMT
#2277
Let it go Vivax.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 17:51 GMT
#2414
No one is killing you relax
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 17:54 GMT
#2417
Hard claiming Donald Trump. I win with town. Used my 1-shot power last night. It read as "for next 48 hours everyone will have tin foils forced on their skull and have their vision clouded. Complete and utter witblock, no one will be making any sense whatsoever and HF the mafia will be victorious once more."
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 17:55 GMT
#2418
On April 16 2018 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 02:51 Skynx wrote:
No one is killing you relax

Only your scumreads were killing you so why didn't you relax?

What use since they have convinced all my townreads including you.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 17:55 GMT
#2419
On April 16 2018 02:53 Calix wrote:
Nice to see you guys are still following along. Since you have all basically said you don't want to play, want to discuss the weather? You lot doing anything interesting this week?

Yeh, losing to you apparently.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 17:59 GMT
#2422
Anyway, last one is probably Oats. Kinda makes sense thinking when to bus and when to use your towncred to lynch at will. I think Calix played very well, although her teammates also helped.

No words for Tube, Vivax and ES. Homeless is jat, final guess.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 18:00 GMT
#2423
On April 16 2018 02:58 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 02:55 Skynx wrote:
On April 16 2018 02:53 Calix wrote:
Nice to see you guys are still following along. Since you have all basically said you don't want to play, want to discuss the weather? You lot doing anything interesting this week?

Yeh, losing to you apparently.


Lovely to see you've got your eye appointment booked for this week since you're clearly blind to my townieness

How's the boat going?

Pretty good, no more sanding after tuesday hopefully.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 18:06 GMT
#2435
We're not winning anyway so no point to play on.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 18:09 GMT
#2439
On April 16 2018 03:08 Calix wrote:
You realise you could like, vote HF if you think he's mafia? lol

The ATE is really weak here, Skynx.

I do, i want this game to end.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 18:13 GMT
#2441
I don't have the consent of my teammates.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 18:47 GMT
#2448
Yeh what a walkover.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 18:48 GMT
#2450
On April 16 2018 03:48 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 03:47 Skynx wrote:
Yeh what a walkover.


I won't even be mad if you're somehow town lol.

Let's all just blame the weekend start #lynchthehosts

Nah, just shitshow from town.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 18:52 GMT
#2452
Let me point out once more that at least 2 town other than me are killing someone else when there is an uncc'd different check and one of them is HF.

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"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 18:52 GMT
#2453
On April 16 2018 03:51 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 03:48 Skynx wrote:
On April 16 2018 03:48 Calix wrote:
On April 16 2018 03:47 Skynx wrote:
Yeh what a walkover.


I won't even be mad if you're somehow town lol.

Let's all just blame the weekend start #lynchthehosts

Nah, just shitshow from town.


The irony is strong in this post.

I wouldn't say anyone has played particularly well this game, town or otherwise.

The irony was intentional
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 18:56 GMT
#2457
On April 16 2018 03:55 Holyflare wrote:
like fuck sake even if I was mafia I made a case on you and there was not one response from you saying why it's wrong

that's on you

I don't need to say anything lol you have a redcheck on you.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 19:00 GMT
#2460
I know he is, I don't really care enough cuz this town cannot be convinced and i knew that 48 hours ago.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 19:03 GMT
#2462
If currentlyhomeless is actually LS this game would make so much sense.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 19:06 GMT
#2466
Hey calix and HF, look at all the town members caring so much by being here...
I dunno what point you're trying to prove here
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 19:07 GMT
#2468
On April 16 2018 04:03 Calix wrote:
I'm not buying this. Tubesock, HF, myself, etc, have been quite willing to hear you guys out IMO. If you guys decide to respond to that with aggression, ATE, personal attacks, etc, then don't complain when nobody listens and you get lynched.

And you keep posting so you must still care somewhat ;p

HF and yourself is mafia. Tube mafia read me from min whatever i do. I don't know who is etc.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 15 2018 19:09 GMT
#2471
On April 16 2018 04:07 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2018 04:06 Skynx wrote:
Hey calix and HF, look at all the town members caring so much by being here...
I dunno what point you're trying to prove here


You keep saying you don't give a damn about the game yet you keep making emo posts instead of just going "well guess I'm dead" and doing something else.

I am not really 'doing' anything here since you're the lynch by a long shot and you're not spewing yourself as town.

good point, bye
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 26 2018 19:24 GMT
#3306
gg, much love to hosts
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
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