On March 20 2018 19:48 Palmar wrote: I'm going with a rather strict "vote on a case" policy this game
On March 22 2018 05:43 Palmar wrote: Throwing down a vote on disfo just so I get a vote out there. I don't remember why I thought he could be mafia but I don't really care.
On March 22 2018 05:51 n00bKing wrote: *thumbs up*
Good post. I am not sure why n00bking decided to change posting style the past 12hours, but its working for me. Overall: not a concern to me anymore.
This is not a good post, it's just him taking things at face value.
I still haven't read more than half the game and I don't feel strongly enough about anyone being mafia to build a case myself, and no one else is pushing any kind of a case.
So what does he expect, that I just don't vote at all? It's probably the most scummy post that noobking has made because he's creating something out of nothing.
I'm voting on tone reads right now. disfo sounded off in the early game.
On March 22 2018 21:55 Palmar wrote: To clarify to slower than normal people:
a) rayn's point is very good. This post here:
On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:27 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote: instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.
Nervous about something?
Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you?
"Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so.
On March 20 2018 13:20 ykl wrote: I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead.
"Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?"
Is noobking being obtuse with wording that literally everyone would have understood easily. ykl is complaining that noobking votes disfo instead of following his own leads on disfo and ykl himself. But instead of answering the question noobking chooses to be an ass about it.
Then in the post about me:
s it *possible* for someone to say that, and ALSO mean it? Yeah, it's possible. But the presence of the word "actually" directly reduces the chance that Palmar believes what he is saying. And increases the chance that he is scum, does not find what you said to be interesting or worthwhile at all, but will nevertheless take the opportunity to cast aspersions at me, simply because I'm not on the scum roster.
He's bitching about me using the word actually. This is even on a surface level straight up scummy because this is not how you toneread. You can't just assume that all people talk the same. (I've tried to lynch LS for bad grammar, it's a terrible idea). But just to prove this to be a bullshit read without a doubt, here are some highlights from the last game I played:
On December 14 2017 00:22 Palmar wrote: This is actually kinda slam dunk here.
On December 14 2017 01:19 Palmar wrote: I actually kinda like killing Oats, his filter is way worse than I thought. I gave him a tentative town read for calling koshi trash, but there's nothing that stops mafia from saying things that are true.
His filter is basically empty.
Note that if you search my name and actually, it turns out I use that word incredibly often, but I chose these two posts as an example because it's very similar situations, I'm using "actually" to describe my realization that something is worth noticing, or as an emphasis that I'm having a realization.
So not only is it a baseless and stupid accusation, it's very easily verifiable that it means nothing, something noobking clearly had no interest in doing. Even if I see people post smilies, I just go search through the last games and stuff to find out if that's just how they talk, or if it's relevant.
The problem is that noobking is trying to stir shit with something that isn't shit. And he does it repeatedly.
This is actually a great case
Oh and this part:
That said, I have no interest in eliminating Palmar from the game at this time, because several of his other posts (particularly ones during this Night Phase) reveal to me that he has a better-than-average understanding of the game mechanics and strategy. He understands the limitations on Day 1 scumhunting, he understands the reduced value of certain roleclaims, he understands the difference between a townlean/townread and "more likely to be town than scum." If he's town, he should eventually prove a strong asset in unraveling the game.
I agree with this part. Although "better-than-average" is perhaps an unnecessarily weak description of my prowess. I'd have preferred something like "world-class".
We're killing noobking today.
I kinda want to point out that half the game has voted for NK or called him mafia (ff, conversion, rayn, moosey, ticktock, mocsta, disfo, me etc) but there seems to be a lot of resistance to building an actual wagon on him.
Like why am I throwing down the first vote here? HF scumread him since day 1.
I think it would be a grand idea to pile some votes onto noobking.
Zzzzzz. I refuted your points already. With room to spare.
"HF scumread him since day 1?" Yeah, and then realized he probably shouldn't be, BEFORE the end of Day 1.
On March 23 2018 07:59 Holyflare wrote: I didn't think his later posting resembled his last mafia game so I backed off it. So did the majority of other people.
He apparently also realized he shouldn't be scumreading me at the end of Night 1 either. Since he posts a lynch progression that continues to start with Mocsta, says that if Mocsta is Town, "lynch Tictock 10/10 times" and then says to move on to Fecalfeast. You don't see my name in that progression. What you do see is him saying that Palmar is playing his mafia meta so far, but that he wants to see more before making a decision on you.
Now, does HF not scumreading me anymore make me town? No. Does him saying you're playing your mafia meta make you scum? No. There's no reason why Holyflare necessarily has to have ANY clue what he's talking about. But you damn sure can't act like there should have been votes on me already, using a basis of "HF scumread him since Day 1"
Sorry man, but this reeks of "god damn it, I'm caught but I don't feel like I should be caught because I believe that all mafia who are caught, are caught because of their own mistakes... and that would mean admitting that I played poorly or suboptimally."
On March 23 2018 13:22 MoosyDoosy wrote: You know I completely forgot noobking was in this game. Not a good sign
This is also a feeling I had after n00bking made that arrogant "I'm the best player to walk the earth" post. That's the last thing I remember him doing, saying, or believing.
I hesistate comparing this game to last game too much because last game was themed and very hard for mafia. But n00bjing had a strong D1 last game and a semi strong D1 this game (at least in terms of activity). I also agreed with HF/Mocsta's assessment of him early.
And if you read the scum QT you'd know that noobking gave up after prplhz got lynched D1 which is why his posts went to absolute shit afterwards. It's why his D1 and afterwards were completely different.
So unless you're lying and noobking DIDN'T have a strong D1, you're an idiot and this post makes no sense :D
He had a strong d1 last game, but that was mainly from activity and length. I, like others, felt he fell off hard after D1. It's understandable given his situation with prplhz. I never read the mafia QT because I didn't care much about a themed quirky game.
On March 23 2018 17:37 rsoultin wrote: NK I could definitely lynch if he doesn't pull out his town god he's been bragging about all this time lol ><
I can tell you about this mafia god town play. Gets poceted super hard by 2/3 mafia D1. Tunnels one of the only two people who try to lynch mafia in the game. Gets lynched D1.
Hahahaha. As I mentioned before, I have only been lynched D1 ONE time, in all my years of playing these games. ONE.
In that ONE game, I posted exactly TWO names in the voting thread. They were BOTH SCUM. I was mislynched Day 1 (YOUR fault), and you did NOT manage to win without me.
MEANWHILE WE HAVE ARROGANT CONTENDER #3 NOOBKING OVER HERE JACKING HIMSELF OFF IN HIS CORNER INSTEAD OF PLAYING THE GAME HAHAA HAHAA
On March 23 2018 17:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: You too Tina. Last game i actually played i instantly caught you for all the right reasons regardless of what you say and think. You can keep your Koshi circle too.
On March 23 2018 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 23 2018 19:08 darthfoley wrote: Being aggressive doesn't mean scum reading them. I have just sense a lack of aggression generally. Usually when you're town you want to be right and you want everyone to admit that you are right. You like being the center of discussion and do not enjoy being cast aside.
I see, i should be aggressive towards my townreads. Noted. The rest is also bs. Apparently you haven't seen me playing lately.
Dude. Rayn. Tone down the aggression. Absolutely nothing transpired that warrants this aggression or anger from you. You get scum read, sucks man. Wagons don't go your way, feels bad. It doesn't warrant an outpouring of whining and anger. In fact, things are generally going your way and the majority of people are town reading you.
Same thing with rsoultin.
I get that you guys are veterans of this site and might feel entitled for some reason but I feel uncomfortable that you guys frequently flip the whiny frustrated switch at the smallest sign of resistance. And it contributes to a substantially shittier game.
I dont think i am being aggressive, sarcastic yes. I get frustrated when people cant even think why i am doing the things i do. It doesnt matter to me if they scumread me or not but i cba to argue in my defense against things that are completely hilarious.
Idk, i might start playing like disformation here, just comment on every thing that goes on in thread but never actually do anything with any information. I promise i will do that next game, it will for my own amusement.
Dont even ask why i react to Koshi as i do.
Funnily enough i do t feel like talking to anyone in this game atm except for Palmar and Mocsta, aside from you. Nothing has been done today except apparently people managed to kill Conversion and dick move analysis alone says he is town, so well done moat likely.
Im just gonna get drunk tonight and probably tomorrow as well.
-pokes-
I keep making people not want to play. Including myself. Join me on heroes?
I'm not even sure what I've been doing so wrong this game >< other than being wrong a whole fucking lot. But yeah.
Idk I've never felt like you make me not want to play; quite the opposite actually. You remind me of an irl mafia friend so perhaps that helps
On March 15 2018 10:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: What Mocsta says is very true. I definitely contributed to the toxicity during my stay here in the past but it was definitely encouraged by others.
This game wasn't that bad in terms of bullying or telling people they suck so I did enjoy playing.
Yes, there are some people I know I won't enjoy playing with as much as others for the reasons you state.
I do agree that too often, people go to the OMGUS method. This game I didn't for a few reasons. I don't even know what other sites people play on, so I can't really have other reference points.
I just didn't think this game was the right time to bring that up. There have defffffinitely been a few games where I would 100% agree with you and Mocsta
Can we all remember this glorious quote from darthfoley from last game
eks dee haHAA
Yup, and I don't think that post was particularly controversial. I would say that generally Mocsta is being proven right this game
On March 24 2018 03:20 Palmar wrote: Does anyone know why slam ragequit? I read the last posts of his filter but I don’t really understand what pissed him off
No idea actually. It seemed to come out of nowhere
I don't know but he quoted my post, so that makes 2 for 2.
Thanks, df.
Yeah, I'll try to find some motivation tomorrow. It's just really not here today. Was finally feeling ready to delve back into things when conversion happened. I don't join these games to make people upset.
I don't know what moosy is talking about but I'm sure he's right and I'm doing whatever that is, too.
I mean, the only real reads I've gotten from today apart from probably being wrong on conversion is I'm feeling better about palmar and I don't think disfo is ever scum here? Well, outside chance, but pretty minimal when he seems willing to work with literally everyone on literally everything.
On March 24 2018 03:25 rsoultin wrote: I don't know but he quoted my post, so that makes 2 for 2.
Thanks, df.
Yeah, I'll try to find some motivation tomorrow. It's just really not here today. Was finally feeling ready to delve back into things when conversion happened. I don't join these games to make people upset.
I don't know what moosy is talking about but I'm sure he's right and I'm doing whatever that is, too.
I mean, the only real reads I've gotten from today apart from probably being wrong on conversion is I'm feeling better about palmar and I don't think disfo is ever scum here? Well, outside chance, but pretty minimal when he seems willing to work with literally everyone on literally everything.
That's all I've got.
Good night.
Sheeping me id a bad idea. Im a shit mafia player and i know it
On March 23 2018 17:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: You too Tina. Last game i actually played i instantly caught you for all the right reasons regardless of what you say and think. You can keep your Koshi circle too.
On March 23 2018 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 23 2018 19:08 darthfoley wrote: Being aggressive doesn't mean scum reading them. I have just sense a lack of aggression generally. Usually when you're town you want to be right and you want everyone to admit that you are right. You like being the center of discussion and do not enjoy being cast aside.
I see, i should be aggressive towards my townreads. Noted. The rest is also bs. Apparently you haven't seen me playing lately.
Dude. Rayn. Tone down the aggression. Absolutely nothing transpired that warrants this aggression or anger from you. You get scum read, sucks man. Wagons don't go your way, feels bad. It doesn't warrant an outpouring of whining and anger. In fact, things are generally going your way and the majority of people are town reading you.
Same thing with rsoultin.
I get that you guys are veterans of this site and might feel entitled for some reason but I feel uncomfortable that you guys frequently flip the whiny frustrated switch at the smallest sign of resistance. And it contributes to a substantially shittier game.
I dont think i am being aggressive, sarcastic yes. I get frustrated when people cant even think why i am doing the things i do. It doesnt matter to me if they scumread me or not but i cba to argue in my defense against things that are completely hilarious.
Idk, i might start playing like disformation here, just comment on every thing that goes on in thread but never actually do anything with any information. I promise i will do that next game, it will for my own amusement.
Dont even ask why i react to Koshi as i do.
Funnily enough i do t feel like talking to anyone in this game atm except for Palmar and Mocsta, aside from you. Nothing has been done today except apparently people managed to kill Conversion and dick move analysis alone says he is town, so well done moat likely.
Im just gonna get drunk tonight and probably tomorrow as well.
also this is like the first time rayn has said he feels like talking to me wOw.
On March 24 2018 03:20 Palmar wrote: Does anyone know why slam ragequit? I read the last posts of his filter but I don’t really understand what pissed him off
Yeah I can explain it now that I’m back.
It’s a question of IRL shit already making me pissy and n00bking claiming it was his badassery leading to me questioning my read on him last game, “after” I detailed the reasons for that
Because I was pissed, I didn’t consider that even though I read it after writing my shit
On March 24 2018 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar are you around tomorrow? It would make me glad to scumhunt with someone who actually listens to me.
EPT
