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On November 19 2017 05:32 Damdred wrote:
First, confirmed town

On November 19 2017 05:33 Damdred wrote:
dammit just first on this page, oats is mafia though so life is easy

On November 20 2017 00:03 darthfoley wrote:


Why are you posting shit like this when more than half the game hadn't posted yet? Super useless fluff trying to scumhunt? Probably

On November 20 2017 00:06 darthfoley wrote:


+1 I find this odd as well. Much less active and withiutnthe typical aggression I associate with his play over the past two games

On November 20 2017 03:37 KelsierSC wrote:


Yeh it was weird.



Stan is a smurf though so I don't know what the fuck you do with that.

On November 20 2017 03:54 darthfoley wrote:


Cuz I don't think the strategy is particularly effective or useful

On November 20 2017 05:19 Z-BosoN wrote:


I found it scummy as fuck, but it looks like it is TOO scummy knowwhatimsayin?

Uncertain as fuck though. I’d rather lynch a more quiet fellow

On November 20 2017 05:20 VisceraEyes wrote:

Not sure of his most recent meta, but from my own personal experience, Hapa used to tryhard at first and then throttle down as his theories started to prove false. Much like my own meta. Hence, early activity has historically proven to be a decent indicator of alignment.

Again, this could be outdated.

On November 20 2017 05:24 Z-BosoN wrote:


Dunno man, I’m just Q&A here atm, on phone.

Holyflare and tumbleweed are very tempting.

Stan .... maybe. He just posted when I was randomly accusing him and was yet to be seen.

On November 20 2017 05:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oats I hope we can be frands this game. We have a hard time so often.

On November 20 2017 06:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
VE keeps it 100

On November 20 2017 06:26 Conversion wrote:


is there a reason you don't like me/think I'm scummy?

On November 20 2017 08:32 Holyflare wrote:


I've called out Conversion in one of his only posts of the game and you called me mafia but then when someone wants to lynch me you ask why not conversion?

wut

On November 20 2017 13:16 Z-BosoN wrote:


This may sound hypocritical coming from "the questioner", but Oatsmaster, are you like the fucking police or something? Your filter is filled with questions with no real followups. You sheep darth accusations yet prod me for reads in this strange manner.

Are you ok there man? I'm getting strange vibes from you.

On November 20 2017 01:19 Holyflare wrote:
How can you forget damdred existed? He posted almost the most early game and had a good ruxx read.

On November 20 2017 18:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oats you know without associated votes or conclusions, you come off as just a tattle-tale, not a scumhunter.

Just sayin.

On November 21 2017 00:30 darthfoley wrote:
@Oats what do you make of TW and Petrov?

@TW can you discuss someone who isnt me?

On November 21 2017 01:27 darthfoley wrote:
It's just bad how I have 6 votes for one question and "being aggressive all over the place" which is more or less what happened in last game D1. I guess I can understand it from the POV of people who haven't played much with me, but those like Oats and Koshi voting me without much justification is bad or mafia or both

On November 21 2017 02:20 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
I intended to me more active but I've been having a fever with a killer headache so I've just done some casual reading and lurking. But I'll be here aswell untill the lynch aswell but as of now I don't see a reason to switch target.

Oat's have definitely been getting away with doing the bare minimum, spam, unserious accusations and asking non-important questions in a 2 page filter.

On Conversation. If he hadn't voted me I'd say he's done nothing but throw questions into the air and hope somebody else picked them up and pushed them for him which is scum play. But he did vote me but looking at that because it also feels ungenuine to me. He sheeped Kelsier for the case and didn't aggressively accuse me of being scum as much as he voted me as a parking vote to pressure me to come back and explain something fairly non-important. And has no other scumreads. I don't like that it feels like he's both pushing me superhard by singling me out as his only scumread and at the same time isn't pressuring me hard at all but just says come back and explain this and until you do I'll have an alibi for voting you.

On November 21 2017 02:22 KelsierSC wrote:
TW should be the lynch, I am unsure of ruxxar which does give me pause but yeh it's tricky.

I already said I didn't like his entry to the thread so no need to harp on that.

Since that point he hasn't made any contributions except trying to defend df ,forgive me but I don't see why. df didn't seem super town at that point,



He then backtracks saying he wasn't trying to defend df, so is df scummy then?

He said he doesn't have any scumreads but wants to ask questions.



Since then he asked like one question to hf. Which was a terrible question because hf had already explained the answer.




So no real contributions, not really paying attention and imo defending df who he probably already knows is town.

##Vote Tumblewood

On November 21 2017 02:24 darthfoley wrote:


I love a good Belgian spanking. Why Koshi over Oats/TW/Stan?

On November 21 2017 02:53 Hapahauli wrote:
Stanislav are you new to this game? Are you a smurf?

On November 21 2017 04:16 Z-BosoN wrote:


I mentioned he looked like a new player, I think he just wanted to confirm. It makes a difference on what you can or cannot attribute to inexperience.

On November 21 2017 04:20 Z-BosoN wrote:


Are you wasting time asking pointless questions with one hour set to lynch?



Also why the FUCK do you want me to change my vote? If you have been reading, you would know I would much prefer Stan, not the person you are voting on.

On November 21 2017 04:20 Z-BosoN wrote:
Also why the FUCK do you want me to change my vote? If you have been reading, you would know I would much prefer Stan, not the person you are voting on.

On November 21 2017 04:23 darthfoley wrote:


If you consider me having three scum reads in a game of 15 people and pushing them over myself getting lynched as "keeping my options open" then sure. Otherwise stop

Made my intentions clear throughout the day. Go back and read. I've been Stan > TW > You the whole day basically. Fuck off with the misrepresentations

On November 21 2017 04:25 Z-BosoN wrote:


FTFY

On November 21 2017 04:27 Damdred wrote:
Darth is town though I believe, so nope I think Stan is a good place for me.

We can talk kel tonight if you make it df.

On November 21 2017 04:27 Conversion wrote:


let me try to understand this, oats

1) you wanted to lynch Petrov
2) DF posted, he looked scummier, so you then switched to DF
3) Petrov is voting DF, so adds to the reason why you switched to DF

is that correct?

On November 21 2017 04:32 Damdred wrote:


Actually I am pretty sure Stan will be lynched today over df. You are painting df as scummy for having multiple people as his scum reads.

That is not inherently scummy, in fact it is in fact good content to push him on. His reasoning for stan is ok, and him trying to aurvive is null.

The content he has produced and his thoughts are generally town focused.

So yes, df is more than likely town.

On November 21 2017 04:33 darthfoley wrote:


Read Petrov's reasons for voting for me. They were all terrible and false

On November 21 2017 04:32 Conversion wrote:
well, frankly speaking, your wording was garbage which is why I was trying to get clarification. thanks for that

On November 21 2017 04:37 Conversion wrote:
There were no contextual clues to your garbage wording of that post, but I'm leaving it at that. go forth with your spammy scum hunting and I'll go along with mine. maybe we'll meet at an intersection down the road later in the game

On November 21 2017 03:28 Z-BosoN wrote:


Weird-ass post.



Repeating previous arguments against DF for non-understandabe reasons.



Talking about Damdred. Doesnt like that someone wants to lynch damdred with that line of thought but... just a few posts before:



So someone accuses a person that you think is mafia with "increasing probability" for some reason, and instead of trying to dissect the other argument to support and push it, he just says "weird comment"? What the fuckshit?

Aside from that strange blooper, he does some to push Damdred on a strange read:



So he is sus of Damdred for being sus of a person that he disagrees "doesn't seem to have much in the way of motives" (i.e. he also doesnt like ruxxar)


He then continue to get some crappy "damdred sais ruxx is having fun, which is THE OPPOSITE of how I view him"


Holyflare has just started being active after he felt some pressure. He is inconsistent in his reads and follow ups of damdred/ruxx. He has all but tunneled df mindlessly without adding much. Can we please murder him?

##Vote HF

On November 21 2017 04:40 Z-BosoN wrote:


A scum read votes a bigger scum read, cvausing the bigger scum to be scummier and the lesser scum to be townier. HELLS YEA

On November 21 2017 04:42 darthfoley wrote:
Petrov only became my public enemy #1 after he was called out for his 180 towards me and his justification was shit.

Which only happened like 3 hours ago. Wtf are you on about

On November 21 2017 04:48 Z-BosoN wrote:

He tunneled DF, your lynch target, like crazy, when he was already up in votes. Used repeated arguments.

He is inconsistent in his ruxx/Damdred reads. He was piling up on Damd being scum, and then someone says that "Damd", his target, should be lynched because <insert reason>.

All he does is say "weird comment". Inconsistent to his supposed scum read. Damd also was against ruxx, whom he also happened to think was scummy looking. It smells man

On November 21 2017 04:51 Damdred wrote:


This is a good post .

Also not scummy to have more than one scum read and see which people would be willing to lynch Oats

On November 21 2017 04:54 Palmar wrote:
I mean game is so easy we lynch hf and if he flips town we lynch oats for tmi.

On November 21 2017 04:56 Z-BosoN wrote:


nah. I just got this from reading the interaction between pages 13-20 or something like that. Sure you've tunneled him harder, but that's not the sole reason. Can you explain why you think HF town?

On November 21 2017 05:07 Z-BosoN wrote:


Just curious, on a scale from "last two pages" to "whole fucking thread", how much are you reading here?

On November 21 2017 05:06 Z-BosoN wrote:
I'll keep my vote where it is. Too bad the only active people are stan people. df people is just Oats, and he's biased/scum.

On November 21 2017 05:35 Palmar wrote:

No need hf played like shit

On November 21 2017 05:35 Z-BosoN wrote:


Not dumb, man was playing bad. It is only dumb in the sense that he may have been modkilled for not voting, but anyways.
We gained interesting insight I'd say. Remember day 1 mafia lynches = lottery most of the time.

On November 21 2017 05:36 Palmar wrote:

I knew, I said it

On November 21 2017 05:36 Palmar wrote:

100%

or TW

On November 21 2017 05:38 Z-BosoN wrote:


You being quiet for the last 15 min then BOOP. Hi guys.

TW for his shitty voting behavior.

Need to think more and such

On November 21 2017 05:40 Palmar wrote:

Yes

Did you like it? Do you wish you could do that? Just waltz into a game like you're the greatest thing since sliced bread and get people to do your bidding?

On November 21 2017 05:43 Damdred wrote:
when was i vig again? Its been a year or two since i had a gun

On November 21 2017 05:46 Z-BosoN wrote:


Can you pinpoint me to the exact moment of space-time where Stan became town to you? Did everyone else who voted for DF become town too?

On November 21 2017 05:50 Z-BosoN wrote:


TW. Kill or no kill?
Kelsier was town to me, but then he did some weird shit I have to investigate.
I also thought ruxxar was townie all this game, but something about his town read on HF... dunno

On November 21 2017 05:52 darthfoley wrote:
#StanStillMafia2017

On November 21 2017 06:05 KelsierSC wrote:


yeh pretty fucking bad

don't know how TW didn't get lynched.

Some comment oats made was pretty fucking special something like "why does mafia tw defend town df"... yeh buddy because mafia never defends town.

Oats has played enough games to know that comment is really stupid or he has been repeatedly stomped in the head since we last played.

Probably lynch between oats and TW tomorrow.

On November 21 2017 06:05 darthfoley wrote:


Because t was literally the easiest thing to do following thread sentiment

On November 21 2017 06:09 darthfoley wrote:


Yea forgot how bad that comment was lol. It's called white knighting and happens often

On November 21 2017 06:19 darthfoley wrote:


No

On November 21 2017 06:05 KelsierSC wrote:


yeh pretty fucking bad

don't know how TW didn't get lynched.
.

On November 21 2017 07:39 Conversion wrote:


If I find scum, I will focus on him. I deferred to Palmar since he's probably a better player than me.

I didn't want to lynch anyone else because I wanted to lynch stan

I had not a lot of good information on HF and didn't think he was a good lynch? I wasn't defending him, I was saying Stan > HF. also that quoted post came after the flip, so why are you trying to make it seem I knew HF was town?

On November 21 2017 07:58 VisceraEyes wrote:

HF used a read on me that Damdred used earlier in the game, trying to "confirm" me as town because I said there were only 3 mafia. Dammy used that earlier to clear someone else, not sure who. TW maybe.

On November 21 2017 08:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Seems like there's a lot of action to read surrounding the lynch.

Am I to understand that Damdred claimed something on D1 NOT under threat of lynch? Did that happen?

On November 21 2017 08:48 VisceraEyes wrote:


People are programmable.

On November 21 2017 08:50 VisceraEyes wrote:

He's always been town imo. He tattles as town and as mafia he like, does the whole AHAAA!!!! thing.

On November 21 2017 08:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's just really easy math. For most people townPalmar is just sheepable, and when Palmar said he liked Conversion, that signaled that he was town to Conversion. Vis a vis, that made him sheepable.

On November 21 2017 09:05 Z-BosoN wrote:


Elimination I guess. He may have been busy irl, but today was a total no show for him.

He also went through the trouble of finding a particular post I made in 2013 where I was defending him. That can be interpreted either way, either as a mafia brag or as just a random thing that any Chez would do.

He mentioned he was telling me this so as to not get shot by mafia and not to look too townie, but his non-factor today would have been enough for that. Dunno.

On November 21 2017 09:36 Conversion wrote:
alright before I catch up I want to apologize to Boson

work was pissing me off and I should have just calmed down before posting

going to catch up now

On November 21 2017 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:

What part of "reading the thread answers this question" is hard to understand? Im not speculating Im observing.

I like you though Oats, I support your inquisition.

On November 21 2017 10:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
What you think of TW?

On November 22 2017 03:03 Damdred wrote:
Maybe im giving bos to big a free pass, he said he would consolidate om stan to save df but with minutes to go hes not making much of a move even when people he thinks are scum (oats) are hard pushimg df.

Its strange some parts of his filter

On November 22 2017 03:29 KelsierSC wrote:

I'm not going to lynch oats, I was pretty irritated by his comment on "why would tw defend df "or something like that so I was in a fuck this guy frame of mind but there's more good than bad, plus he didn't vote hf and stuck on his darth read.

I liked hapa because he was one of the first people to vote darth and call him out I think but obviously around vote time I don't know what the fuck happened.

On November 22 2017 04:11 Damdred wrote:


here oats, during the night he declares you town though

On November 22 2017 04:38 Z-BosoN wrote:


What is hardly anything btw? This exchange confuses me.

On November 21 2017 07:39 Conversion wrote:


If I find scum, I will focus on him. I deferred to Palmar since he's probably a better player than me.

On November 22 2017 05:15 Conversion wrote:


I sheeped HF the entire game in CCCP and wasn't sure if he was town all game.

your mistake here is that you're expecting me to operate at a certain level of proficiency at mafia that I guarantee you I don't meet

On November 22 2017 05:38 KelsierSC wrote:
why didn't you shoot?

On November 22 2017 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:


I wasn't thinking of it from the perspective of you are mafia so you would know if they are both town. To me it felt like you stuck with your conviction that df was mafia which you were pushing near the lynch and for most of D1 from what I remember. I liked that it felt pretty genuine.

I don't know how the hapa read is wrong, you can disagree with it but he did vote df pretty early.

On November 22 2017 06:24 KelsierSC wrote:


I don't know what hapa wanted, i'm unsure of that guy as I said.

second question is weird but you seemed to genuinely want to lynch df which made you seem town. Like if df and hf are both town ,mafia takes the opportunity to lynch hf because he's a better player and more of a threat to the mafia team.

On November 22 2017 06:32 KelsierSC wrote:


i don't understand you question at all. D1 you seemed genuine in your efforts to lynch df which seemed town to me.
Yes if you were mafia you would have a hard time justifying a switch onto hf i guess. but if you are town and you believe df is mafia you wouldn't switch so it's irrelevant.

Hapa said darth was scummy and voted him early D1 at a time i thought darth was scummy so i townread him for that. Around votes he acted weird so i'm unsure of that.

On November 22 2017 06:38 KelsierSC wrote:


you just aren't reading my posts so there is no point

On November 22 2017 03:29 KelsierSC wrote:

I'm not going to lynch oats, I was pretty irritated by his comment on "why would tw defend df "or something like that so I was in a fuck this guy frame of mind but there's more good than bad, plus he didn't vote hf and stuck on his darth read.

On November 22 2017 06:52 KelsierSC wrote:


right you stuck to your darth read.

it's more of a throwaway comment about the hf lynch being bad rather than some thought about "does mafia oats switch in this situation"

If that is the whole reason for this line of questioning you are a fucking imbecile.

On November 22 2017 07:05 KelsierSC wrote:


lol ok

like you seemed to genuinely believe your lynch target was mafia and that made you towny to me. Some bullshit about whether or not you could have switched to hf if you were mafia literally has nothing to do with it.

I can't tell if you are just being stupid or willfully ignoring my posts.

On November 22 2017 07:11 KelsierSC wrote:


At ths point you are incurably stupid or mafia so I don't give a fuck

On November 22 2017 07:55 darthfoley wrote:
So can we not let Koshi slide by doing nothing again today plz

On November 22 2017 10:32 Tumblewood wrote:
reading ve's filter and i sorta hate it. first half is like 20% random really strong reads and 80% fluff. and the second half is like regular but not insightful really

On November 22 2017 10:39 Tumblewood wrote:
if ve and oats are mafia together (which i doubt) that would be the one of the strangest plays i've ever seen from partners

On November 22 2017 10:48 Tumblewood wrote:

stan or hapa. though i'm hoping i find something better in the next 40 hours

On November 22 2017 11:45 Tumblewood wrote:

again, because i thought z-boson made a convincing case on him. i guess it adds a bit that z-boson died afterwards

On November 22 2017 12:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oats I suggest you join myself and your townread on the Hapahauli wagon for the good of the village. I further implore any other village aligned players in the game to direct their votes to Hapahauli so that we might save our home.

On November 23 2017 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar if you don't give a shit about your vote could you at least throw it on obvious mafia Hapahauli plz and thx?

On November 23 2017 06:15 darthfoley wrote:
Can someone tell me why Oats is ignoring me today?

On November 23 2017 06:34 darthfoley wrote:


Can you just get over yourself and talk to me please? It doesn't have to be this way

On November 23 2017 07:31 VisceraEyes wrote:

I know this doesn't mean much to you, but the case I wrote is airtight and deserves your vote.

On November 23 2017 08:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oats you are commenting without reading it.

On November 23 2017 13:51 Tumblewood wrote:
this thread is far too comfortable with the lynch. like if anyone up for voting were actually mafia i'd expect someone to give enough of a shit to try and stop that. but this is crickets so i wanna do something stupid

On November 23 2017 13:56 Tumblewood wrote:
regardless of palmars alignment, i have to say, that was an extremely skilled play

On November 23 2017 14:21 darthfoley wrote:
I agree that the thread seems a little dead for my liking, but it's Thanksgiving travel season so idk

On November 24 2017 05:45 ruXxar wrote:


Almost like you knew...

On November 24 2017 06:04 ruXxar wrote:


What do you even mean?
If you want a lynch you're gonna have to work for it.

On November 24 2017 06:10 ruXxar wrote:


On the oats scale of yelling "lynch X" every 2 posts you're a bit behind.

On November 24 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote:
I'm upset at DF because he has an 8 page filter and he hasn't been doing anything memorable. seems very off from his D1 dead town games. like someone pointed out DF has just been defensive, and on top of that he just makes very silly posts like above that isn't like the slam-dunk DF town that I've witnessed in the past 2 games

On November 24 2017 06:34 Conversion wrote:




c'mon oats I know you don't like me but don't ignore me

On November 24 2017 07:06 Conversion wrote:


wut

I just think there has to be a scum between them. I could also be wrong

On November 24 2017 07:15 Palmar wrote:
meh well when strong veteran players decide to be trash not much we can do.

On November 24 2017 07:24 Conversion wrote:


I reserve the right to laugh at you post game if 4/4 of this list is town

On November 24 2017 09:14 Chezinu wrote:
I have another 5 hour drive tomorrow. Activity should pick up after that.

Going to filter dive hapa now

On November 24 2017 09:29 Chezinu wrote:

Hey, did you ever hear of the I die you die tactic when was a mad detective in mini mafia 2? Anyways, make the shot count tonight.

On November 25 2017 03:07 darthfoley wrote:
Reread Boson's case

+ Show Spoiler +

I think Boson's on to something. He's written stuff like this multiple times



Reminds me a lot of Kelscier's response to the lynch.



He tries to make this a big deal for like 2 seconds and drops it. This doesn't make a lick of difference and he treats it like some big revelation



I also categorically just disagree with this assessment. Not meaningful at all.



Oh look, he could've been around to fight for the DF lynch!



Remind everyone of your strongest scum read: me!



Yup, i'm definitely his #1 scum read.



All of a sudden he's forgotten about his biggest scum read.



Feels fake.

He was so enraged that his beautiful wagon on me didn't lynch me, that he didn't try to lynch me at all D2. /s He also just arbitrarily flip flops on me without interacting with me or inquiring about things that could make me town or mafia.

Plus his response to ruxxar makes no sense. If he thought Hapa was mafia for defending mafia!DF, he should try to lynch mafia!DF and not Hapa. His play lacks basic logic and if you look at his filter, he's interacting with other players less and less as the game goes farther (and it becomes harder to fake shit as mafia). His conclusions have been bad consistently.