[M][N] Heroes of the Storm Mafia

On November 01 2017 07:42 Damdred wrote:


You know I was abour to tr you for your carefree attitude a d then you say something i really disagree with.

I think krogan had third best entrance, hf is meh but meh

On November 01 2017 07:47 Damdred wrote:


can you explain why yoi dont loke it more for me?

On November 01 2017 08:49 ruXxar wrote:


Name recognition help for sure, but it’s also about how you present yourself and your arguments.

Perfect example is Lonelyclock last game. A newbie, but very solid town-read with a lot of credibility.
Someone presenting themselves like that pushes a lot of weight around.

Don’t get me wrong, I like your more confident approach, but it’s throwing me off because it’s so different from previous games, and it’s also a bit too much over the top and appears a bit forced.

On November 01 2017 09:28 Conversion wrote:
I'm seriously getting grilled for sharing my thoughts, and none of you have the balls to put votes on anyone else besides HF

fun game

On November 01 2017 08:49 ruXxar wrote:


Name recognition help for sure, but it’s also about how you present yourself and your arguments.

Perfect example is Lonelyclock last game. A newbie, but very solid town-read with a lot of credibility.
Someone presenting themselves like that pushes a lot of weight around.

[b]Don’t get me wrong, I like your more confident approach, but it’s throwing me off because it’s so different from previous games, and it’s also a bit too much over the top and appears a bit forced.

On November 01 2017 11:25 Tictock wrote:
Ok that is a decent point, I forgot Ruxx had done that. I'm not really sold that makes Ruxx scum, but I get where you are coming from.

What do you think about Shockey?

On November 01 2017 12:56 Oatsmaster wrote:

I am 100% you are scum
##vote dam

On November 01 2017 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote:

You are a whole lotta nothing burger.
What are you eving doing with this post.

On November 01 2017 13:07 Oatsmaster wrote:

Oh hey look, that's meta read off literally one post and literally not looking at my other games, just casually throwing shade. Same with rux.

On November 01 2017 12:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
And I won't like I at first thought Ruxxar could of been mafia, but after looking into DF, and Damerian post history, I prefer Ruxxar and DF as likely town.

On November 01 2017 13:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Although now that I think about it, you might have ptsd from the last game and are just irrantionaly scared

On November 01 2017 13:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey why haven't you said anything about conversion when he's in the same situation as the last game kinda?

On November 01 2017 13:19 Oatsmaster wrote:

I didn't win because of my strategy in day 1, what are you smoking?

I meant that I open the same damn way every game I play because it's easy to do as mafia and that's what I want to do as town.

On November 01 2017 13:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Life's tough

Mehhhhh that's a really waffely read on conversion whatever.

On November 01 2017 22:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Oats is also too sporadic in the voting thread, jumping onto who ever seems the "easiest" to vote off. Him and Damerian posting are so similar it's disgusting. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them flipped red.

On November 01 2017 22:55 ruXxar wrote:


Because pushing you hard if he knows you are town are not going to reflect well on him.

On November 02 2017 01:49 Conversion wrote:
Are you so daft that you don't understand the differences between "ShoCkeyy is the thread sentiments" versus "ShoCkeyy is the only thread sentiment"

?

On November 02 2017 01:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:


That's not what it seems like; I think you need to learn how to read



He obviously thinks Ruxxar's post was lame.

On November 02 2017 03:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok rux is likely mafia, tick tock possible mafia, damdred in the same spot as tick tock.

Shockey vs conversion is tvt

On November 02 2017 03:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
What are you scum reads Darth?

On November 02 2017 03:19 Vivax wrote:


Also super scummy post, soft bus teammate for bad entrance but only explain why the townie (krogan) is scummy.

Darth and shockey down already, damn guys and I thought this was going to be challenging.

On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:


I agree about DF.

About conversion... the jury is still out.
He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing.

On November 02 2017 03:53 ruXxar wrote:


Different, yet not similar to how I remember town conversion playing.
Doesn't matter either way, I don't think the guy is mafia.

On November 02 2017 03:54 darthfoley wrote:


The jury is still out but you don't think the guy is mafia? So the jury is in?

lolwat

On November 02 2017 03:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Tick tocks read progression just looks really odd and he is incredibly agreeable. Like he has no backbone.

On November 02 2017 04:09 ruXxar wrote:



I like his tone.
Light hearted and jovial, the same way I play when I'm excited to roll town.

His reads are good and consistent on HF and Shockey.
Reads the game pretty much the same way I do, which makes it look like he doesn't have a whacky agenda.
Explains his reads so that you can see where he's coming from with his thought process.

On November 02 2017 06:04 Vivax wrote:


I'm totally going with thread sentiment if it lynches scum.
Should I scumread him less cause others already did? Nice logic there.

My attitude this day will be lynch schockey or feed. You can keep underhandedly defending him while calling him mafia though.

On November 02 2017 05:56 ruXxar wrote:


Sure. Right now you are my top scum read.

1) You're being wishy washy trying to coast by. Casting shade and town reads around you pretty lightly.
You're keeping every option open, snaking your way around from read to read.

2) This post is incredibly nitpicky and trying to infuse meaning where there is none. One of the worst posts in the game.
It's very over explainy and trying to siphon meaning out of very word instead of trying to understand the overall message of the post.

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Besides you there's a few people on my to watch list:

Oats - for the same reason of also blowing things up and putting emphasis on worthless fact as if they were gold and had some divine scum meaning.
Damerion - I detected a change in meta behavior, need more posts to evaluate.
Shockey - I know I'm biased due to meta. The threshold for where that meta no longer holds is very thin. But still resides as town. Also the bickering with conversion tips in his favor.
HF - His damerion vote with no explanation was a red flag, but his later followup was ok. He's awfully quiet this game, but he has an excuse. Otherwise keeping an eye on him as his meta is different from last game. A bit more laid back.
Not sure how to interpret it, will need to wait until he makes a real push.

On November 02 2017 06:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
But you disagree with the assessment that your post is swinging back and forth between calling damerion townie and scummy? Cause it looks like you totally meant that and that darth analysed it correctly.

1) damerion's posting is scummy
2) damerion's posting is townie
3) it might be either I DUNNO?!?!

That's literally what darth said. And you clearly agree with it. So how does that make darth overanalysing every little thing??

On November 02 2017 06:29 ruXxar wrote:



krogan and shockey are scum
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ruxxar is scum
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Dislike ticktock
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Oats is scum
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Conversion is possibly scum
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Krogan is town
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Shockey is town
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Oats is town
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Conversion is town
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Vivax is scum
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Zen master is scum
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I think it's pretty clear you're just jumping from one guy to the next with your scum reads.

On November 02 2017 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
Is zen guy new? Way too much of a wall of text for a new mafia to make.

On November 02 2017 06:36 Holyflare wrote:


Well you have bad expectations then?

On November 02 2017 06:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:


Yeah, the fact that I actually put effort into my post means im scum. But just throwing accusations without any thought behind them and jumping from wagon to wagon like you did is very town-like.

On November 02 2017 06:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:


What? So you have thoughts but decide to not share them with other people? How are we supposed to make reads on you if you if you don't post your though process and wait for everyone else to post? This was a very scummy post.

On November 02 2017 08:43 Tictock wrote:
At pg 20 now.

DF and Oats were bickering incessantly last night but now I see DF saying he has mindmelded with Oats over their reads. Feels like a rather quick and convenient turn around to me.

Part of me wants to call BS on the whole argument they had and say it was actually a forced SvS fight, but that is probably far fetched. More likely is a Scum DF buddying Oats.

I actually like Oats calling out my HF read, it is kinda a mixed bag. I was too leinant with HF last time I played and left him slip by as scum when he pretended to be forced to speak Russian. Here I feel like his push on Conv was off when he was pushing Conv for his scum read on Damer when HF himself was voting Damer. Someone mentioned HF and Damer had a history last game though so idk how serious HF's opening vote was.

Also yea Damdred is being pretty lackluster since the game got going.

So Oats more likely Town than DF I think.

On November 02 2017 11:22 ShoCkeyy wrote:


Just so you know, because you really keep asking, I'm sure Damerion would have voted for me if the voted thread existed at the time he decided to just disappear. But you still never understood it because you don't look at every aspect of the game, only "text"....

On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.

I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.

Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.

and conversion is coming off that way to me.

But I got way off track with that post meh

On November 01 2017 22:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Oats is also too sporadic in the voting thread, jumping onto who ever seems the "easiest" to vote off. Him and Damerian posting are so similar it's disgusting. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them flipped red.

On November 02 2017 11:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:


You can go through my filter for that, not wasting my time writing that again.

On November 02 2017 12:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
alright fine, top three scum reads were damerion, oats, and it was between you and conv.

On November 03 2017 05:00 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax mafia though

On November 03 2017 05:13 Oatsmaster wrote:

Meh, I thought shoockey was mafia on my first read through. Also thought you were mafia.

Soooo I kinda don't think he's scum.

Townreada are overrated

On November 03 2017 05:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Deadline in 1h 45 min right?

On November 03 2017 05:18 Oatsmaster wrote:

I mean, rux voted Vivax randomly, and it's me and you shitting on TICKTOC soooo eyeah

On November 03 2017 05:29 happykrogan wrote:


You're reads weren't really new. You maybe tried to find some other things you can write on them so people see that you make your own posts and you can defend yourself with this argument.



This are the only "new" points I found (I already said why I think your reasons to be on TT are weak). And I think they are very easy to fake so that you can bring your defense now.

On November 03 2017 05:44 Tictock wrote:
We had a late lynch rush at my morning job so I have shit for time today, basically just the next half hour and I need to eat lunch in that time as well. No time for filters, just gunna skim a bit.

This caught my eye:


First, in response. Hardly any, I think? I haven't been playing much mafia and I've only rolled Town in the past year. Probably an easy thing to check via the database.

Second, it occurres to me that scum!Shokey has everything to gain by pushing me here when there is clearly several people scum reading me and he is in danger of being lynched ATM.

##Unvote

Gunna put my vote on DF and try to catch up.

On November 03 2017 05:42 ruXxar wrote:


I'm still going to lynch tick tock. I just wanted to get vivax playing.

On November 03 2017 05:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
It's interesting that he doesn't engage me anymore though

On November 03 2017 05:51 Vivax wrote:


In fact I don't think you're scum atm. I also have a separate filter called thread sentiment obviously that I check regularly.

On November 03 2017 06:54 Oatsmaster wrote:

VC?

On November 03 2017 06:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Df, you don't show any interest in lynching TT, why the hesitation now?

On November 03 2017 06:56 Tictock wrote:


If this is true I'll vote Ruxx for survival. I'd really like to be able to put in more than fleeting minuets.

On November 03 2017 06:57 Rels wrote:

ruxXar (3): Oatsmaster, Darthfoley, happykrogan
Tictock (3): Damdred, ruXxar, ruXxar, Damerion
ShoCkeyy (2): Tictock, Conversion, Vivax, Damerion
Darthfoley (1): Oatsmaster, happykrogan, ruXxar, The_Zen_Man, Tictoc
Vivax (1): Holyflare , ruXxark
Damerion (1): Holyflare, ShoCkeyy
Conversion (0): Conversion, ruxXar
Oatsmaster (0): Darthfoley

Not voted (1): Breshke

At the current vote count, ruxXar will be eliminated from the game. Deadline in

On November 03 2017 06:58 Damdred wrote:
Vote TT df, someone vote with meee

On November 03 2017 07:34 Oatsmaster wrote:

DID YOU NOT SEE THE RANDOM 180 BY RUX HALFWAY THROUGH DAY 1 FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER.

On November 03 2017 07:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Like literally because everyone thinks rux is town now, thats why he bussed tictock

On November 03 2017 07:30 Vivax wrote:
Good stuff, I don't see bussing here so that's 4 very very likely townies for now.

Shockey is still mafia, cya.

On November 03 2017 07:52 darthfoley wrote:
We should vigi shoot into Ruxxar 100% tonight if possible

On November 03 2017 07:56 Vivax wrote:


Well I didn't see TT being mafia here so I'm slightly salty

On November 03 2017 05:17 darthfoley wrote:
So it's like 3-3-2 with Shockey-Ruxxar-Me? TT having only one vote after 3-4 people have been shitting on him is mighty mighty interesting.

On November 03 2017 08:00 ruXxar wrote:

I'm lynching into this tomorrow.


Damdred and Damerion are as good as confirmed town to me. Never lynching.

On November 03 2017 08:04 darthfoley wrote:


Yes yes indeed. There was a lot of "suspicion" brewing around TT without any votes to back it up.

Also I think a buss on TT is much more likely than other players given his insane work schedule. I can easily see him being like "yo, try to bus me ruxx and hopefully we get shockey lynched instead. Worst comes to worst, I don't have much time to play anyways."

On November 03 2017 07:58 Damdred wrote:
Shooting rux is wasteful, the narrative that is being constructed is that rux decided to bus tt because he needed to be townread.

But lets not forget that before I started pushing tt the lynch looked way different, rux could of supported a shockey lynch whicv btw would of gotten ahock lynched.

Or helped push a df lynch which qould of been just as close, but instead he needed to bus tt?

That doesnt make sense to me at all

On November 03 2017 05:37 ruXxar wrote:


In the game you linked shockey has the same tone read as here.
It reinforces my idea of him being town.

On November 03 2017 06:57 ruXxar wrote:
Ill consolidate on shockey to save myself.

On November 03 2017 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
I don't get why nobody is scum reading me :D

On November 03 2017 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
but I told you all about tt anyway :D :D

On November 03 2017 08:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:


Here's the problem, I'm town. I'm an unaware person. I'm just trying to role play here. I had my reads on TT pretty early on since his first vote of the game was for me, the unsuspecting lynch bait. He kept it on me until I started to look scummy to other players.



This vote below makes me want to call DF Mafia. He instead votes DF becasue him and DF are having some kind of "argument". This whole time, people are trying to push ruxxar, such as Oats, and he keeps trying to buddy up ruxxar to make him look like mafia under the filter.



The only reason why I think Ruxxar is not mafia is because of this vote here that Ticktock tried to do at last second.



Why would he try to kill off his partner at the last second? Ruxxar mentioned he was willing to vote for me, ticktock didn't even try to engage that and vote me off when they could have at the last few minutes.



He knows voting for Ruxx or for Me would have caused a death in a town. I personally think DF is the next mafia, now he's trying to build his case against Ruxx, and make him look like Tictock and Ruxx were buddy buddy if you try to filter dive.



Ruxx calling DF the next scum, and I'd rather sheep Ruxx who voted off Tictock than sheep the guy who voted along side tictock.

On November 03 2017 08:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
But Ruxx isn't scum? So it would of been the death of a town... Which comes to my next point, I think you're mafia as well. I personally think you're working with DF to try and push Ruxx while tonight you might either kill off Damdred, or Holyflare, get the bigger names out of here right?

On November 03 2017 05:44 Tictock wrote:
We had a late lynch rush at my morning job so I have shit for time today, basically just the next half hour and I need to eat lunch in that time as well. No time for filters, just gunna skim a bit.

This caught my eye:


First, in response. Hardly any, I think? I haven't been playing much mafia and I've only rolled Town in the past year. Probably an easy thing to check via the database.

Second, it occurres to me that scum!Shokey has everything to gain by pushing me here when there is clearly several people scum reading me and he is in danger of being lynched ATM.

##Unvote

Gunna put my vote on DF and try to catch up.

On November 03 2017 08:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Personally, I would of rather saved my buddy, and vote "shockeyy" off who was also the most scummy of the first night. Because that's how the mafia should be played. The more mafia towards the end of the game the quicker it is to win. Why let a partner die so early in the game?

On November 03 2017 08:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:


I don't mind sheeping that for now till Oats and DF make a viable point as to why they're not mafia, then I can make a decision on who to start the train on before votes are in.

On November 03 2017 19:54 ruXxar wrote:
Some people seem to have lost all sense of reason.


If I am mafia with tick tock here, I would jump on shockey together with tick tock.
The only time where this doesn't make sense is if the mafia team is literally me, shockey and ticktock.

A couple people who haven't lost their heads picked up on this (damdred, shockey)

On November 04 2017 04:57 Vivax wrote:


This is a terrible argument.

Along with a terrible claim that only the most gullible would believe.