On August 25 2017 04:48 Damdred wrote: So I have a bad early town read on ls for the way he is acting.
Same.
##Vote TW
Bad entrance.
What so terrible about his entrance?
Didn't interact with the thread. Instead found a post to make a jokey comment on. I give it a realistic chance he didn't know how to enter the thread, saw my post and replied.
Okay.... I don't find it terrible myself but that just me thinking it's probably nai entrance.
On July 13 2017 06:34 Koshi wrote: Hello my Minions. Your master will be doing a 1 page filter D1. He is planning on making 3 big quality posts and around 15 "fluff" posts but only when he politely is asked a question or feels like barking a question. Good Minions know that the great leader should be followed, and even naughty Minions know to at least sheep the master his list. Evil Minions will be dealt with. Swiftly and without mercy.
Your leader has spoken. Hail to the great leader.
(Generic 3) Koshi posts gameplans as mafia ##Vote: Koshi
On December 27 2016 10:32 Koshi wrote: I am town but don't expect much. I am going to play super low post style. I won't be pushing the game forward at all. Just going to do some analysis from time to time.
We will see how it goes. I will post enough so that you should be able to correctly deduct my alignment. But meta activity wise I am always be scum.
On July 20 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote: So due to recent events it will be almost impossible to trigger me and I will pay 100.000.000.000% attention to make completely blamefree posts all the time every time.
If for some reason I am getting pissed off and you can see it shine through in my posts, please notify me and just kindly ask me to step away. That is my plan but sometimes my mind gets clouded.
In other news. I will be playing super normal mafia with the small exception that I will not push a name D1. I will only push a group and try to not focus on 1 name. Would be nice if people lynch in that group and not 1 of the people outside that group even though there might be mafia outside that group.
brb reading thread.
PS: I drink tea with 3 of these in a big cup (0,4l). + Show Spoiler +
Or I use 2 and 2 spoons of honey. If there is honey I use honey. So good. + Show Spoiler +
so good.
72 hours mafia. Town.
I don't think that's how you should hunt scum.
And I'm not sure I've ever seen you hunt scum like this.
What do you make of the whole LS read thingy for example?
Is it possible Skynx might be a bit paranoid? Could explain everything he done with koshi at this point.
On August 25 2017 05:05 Holyflare wrote: We got dem mafiaz already guys
You are unusual
Nah but seriously that koshi post after I did basically claim scum is really fucking out there. Basically talking to me like confirmed town and to come back and join a town circle? Like what?
I'll keep that point in mind. I really believed you claimed scum right there.
Well I didn't. I went more like 'Ugh why HF why..."
He was talking about to HF instead of you in that post????
On August 25 2017 05:03 Damdred wrote: I'm super stressed rayn ran an just trying to relax.
It is interesting lots jumped on my early ls read, and actually plus 1 it.
Why can't we see the same thing you saw? I wasn't going to say anything yet but he was being innocent town puppy.
Because generally speaking I have to fight tooth and nail to him not to be scum read. It's an interesting Chang of pace.
Now this is not right Damdred.
Sure it is, I you look into my last games I generally come up with a quick read on ls. I end up in a fight with the thread at one point or another. (One with ritoky comes to mind ).
Did try to lynch him as scum though
Ya until Im a Cop you Idiodt when you tried to abuse it on me when I was the cop
On August 25 2017 05:05 Holyflare wrote: We got dem mafiaz already guys
You are unusual
Nah but seriously that koshi post after I did basically claim scum is really fucking out there. Basically talking to me like confirmed town and to come back and join a town circle? Like what?
I'll keep that point in mind. I really believed you claimed scum right there.
Well I didn't. I went more like 'Ugh why HF why..."
He was talking about to HF instead of you in that post????
I know. I am just explaining why I wrote what I wrote.
I got a townread on Vivax for the time being. I want it to be mutual. Especially with rayn being less townie than I would like. Need allies.
Oh I thought you misread it that's all. Also where is Oats
On August 25 2017 05:05 Holyflare wrote: We got dem mafiaz already guys
You are unusual
Nah but seriously that koshi post after I did basically claim scum is really fucking out there. Basically talking to me like confirmed town and to come back and join a town circle? Like what?
I'll keep that point in mind. I really believed you claimed scum right there.
Well I didn't. I went more like 'Ugh why HF why..."
He was talking about to HF instead of you in that post????
I know. I am just explaining why I wrote what I wrote.
I got a townread on Vivax for the time being. I want it to be mutual. Especially with rayn being less townie than I would like. Need allies.
Oh I thought you misread it that's all. Also where is Oats
Sleeping it is 4am where he is. Or later.
Oh ya forgot his timezone is very different from most people that play here. It been a long time since I played with him.
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?
On August 25 2017 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would a mafia dude EVER ignore defending their scumbuddy with ACTUAL reasons (your meta is 100% wrong), Skynx? Tell me that? Tell me why you think mafia would not do that, defend their scumbuddy with 100% accurate reasnoing?
They don't know if it was wrong yet.
ahhh that's my point exactly though!
it's a weird train of thought to go through koshi's scum games and then get met with three people saying "But what about his town games?" and then decide that if koshi is mafia then they're all town
did you conclude that koshi does this opening as town too? <-------- super important question plz answer
On August 25 2017 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript are you town?
I'm the towniest of all. Also, I'm pretty sure that Koshi is mafia. His post towards you and asking about Damdred's townread is pretty out of place. As Town, you love to lynch stupid; it's like your kryptonite. But as mafia you have much less of a hardon for stupid from what I've seen and just push 85% bullshit. Koshi not getting this after the last two games is pretty odd; especially since Tina brought it up in generic and Koshi was bussing her at various points.
How on earth are you the towniest of all people? You entered the thread late and not doing much with your suppose few posts you were going to make on day phases........
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote: I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.
The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote: I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote: I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.
nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else
In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.
1/20
If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.
A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.
On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote: I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.
On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote: For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia. I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it.
Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
3/20
Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.
On August 25 2017 08:42 Holyflare wrote: that post says entirely nothing geript
You don't find it interesting that Koshi is calling me scum both for noticing his posting and for not noticing his posting? That's not in any way weird about it?
IDK if I explained it well the first time. Like let me explain it this way. Koshi is scumreading me for, at 6:14, posting this:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote: I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.
rayn told them to.
Nha they left earlier. Meh. It's good that you stayed.
Didn't like that Vivax/TW/LS aren't mafia with Koshi line tbh. But I like that you are posting and trying to solve the game. You are fine for now.
Got anything you want to discuss?
You guys are preventing me from doing anything else right now. I'd be happy if i was allowed to go back and read others aswell.
That is what I am implying with that post. Let's do something else.
rayn still wants you to explain why you wrote that line though. But he is devolving the initial situation into something else and I don't like it anymore.
Koshi wants me to be scumreading him for something I couldn't even have read if I'm following the thread in any kind of reasonable way. Like Koshi wants me to be scumreading him for how he reads Rayn in when the whole Skynx situation doesn't even really resolve until my first post is already made.
Like that's a really fucking weird argument to be making. It's strikes a bunch on the idea of, "You'll scumread me for the right reasons." Like you should be scumreading me at point A for what I do at point B when point B follows point A.
On August 25 2017 19:02 Koshi wrote: Oatsmaster, Ruxxar, Geript
I think I am lynching into this. If town wants Skynx it will be without my support.
I rather look bigger targets than lurkers honestly because at best it's a 50-50 and at worst they are town that couldn't do anything. Also lex did some posting although it was kinda okay but want more and better stuff from him.
On August 25 2017 22:22 Damdred wrote: @Geript, while I appreciate your need to explain your koshi scum read elaborately. Please do not avoid my questions, What is your read on hf?
@LS was there a post of arts you specifically did not like?
No it just seems a little bit lackluster from what I remembered from him. Could be because I always thought he was a good player. Could be a bit early that why I a bit hesitant about commiting to a read on him.
On August 25 2017 22:22 Damdred wrote: @Geript, while I appreciate your need to explain your koshi scum read elaborately. Please do not avoid my questions, What is your read on hf?
@LS was there a post of arts you specifically did not like?
No it just seems a little bit lackluster from what I remembered from him. Could be because I always thought he was a good player. Could be a bit early that why I a bit hesitant about commiting to a read on him.
Help me la who scum?
If I had a gun to my head right now maybe geript? His huge wall of text was just a bunch of words with little actual content and his fight with koshi seems kinda forced?
On August 25 2017 22:22 Damdred wrote: @Geript, while I appreciate your need to explain your koshi scum read elaborately. Please do not avoid my questions, What is your read on hf?
@LS was there a post of arts you specifically did not like?
No it just seems a little bit lackluster from what I remembered from him. Could be because I always thought he was a good player. Could be a bit early that why I a bit hesitant about commiting to a read on him.
Help me la who scum?
If I had a gun to my head right now maybe geript? His huge wall of text was just a bunch of words with little actual content and his fight with koshi seems kinda forced?
Does it seemed forced both ways or just geript towards koshi?
Seems more from geripts end at least how I feel about it.
On August 25 2017 23:03 Koshi wrote: Anyway LS. If you want bigger targets. Which are they? Xcept geript?
Idk maybe if lex continues to be a bit underwhelming to my expectations of him then lex would be another lynch but I need to see more from him to make a better judgement I think.
On August 25 2017 23:05 Skynx wrote: Art's comeback to the thread seemed kinda underwhelming for me, he's been called out i think for 1st post and disappearing. Most of the content he posted recently felt like he had to post something to me.
On August 25 2017 22:58 Skynx wrote: Damdred, you have any other towns beside rayn and LS?
Ls Rayn Vivax Koshi HF ( haven't talked much about him. But he's being smart and pushing things I think town hf would)
Then we have a lower tier
Art Sky Tw Geript
An afk tier Ruxx Oats
Right now I do not know who scum is, I have a reason to tr geript (meta reason), art had some reasonable and logical posts but not enough do me to put into no lynch town today, skynx had a bad push on koshi but looked at other games and backed odd (Which I thought was towny), and generally I can't read tw worth a shit so I keep him floating and try to ignore him.
A random thought about tw though, Igeript is scum his read on tw might confirm him as town.
That's a pretty good list. I'm flying on a similar route, just more reluctant to have LS, rayn and HF as super towns. rayn's push on me seems like towny but there is no conclusion to it. No vote on me and his last thoughts when i was around looked like he had me as bad town but he's still pushing the agenda of mafia!skynx. HF and LS are playing a pretty laid back and safe game so far, maybe HF a bit less but thats just HF being in the thread. LS in general seem to lack having any opinions other than me and rayn as town.
Ugh I did have other reads you just didn't look I think :D
On August 25 2017 23:03 Koshi wrote: Anyway LS. If you want bigger targets. Which are they? Xcept geript?
Idk maybe if lex continues to be a bit underwhelming to my expectations of him then lex would be another lynch but I need to see more from him to make a better judgement I think.
Well... Then who do you want to lynch if not geript and the afkers?
Like I said lex if he continues to be underwhelming >.< I know he could do better stuff as town.
On August 25 2017 23:03 Koshi wrote: Anyway LS. If you want bigger targets. Which are they? Xcept geript?
Idk maybe if lex continues to be a bit underwhelming to my expectations of him then lex would be another lynch but I need to see more from him to make a better judgement I think.
Well... Then who do you want to lynch if not geript and the afkers?
Like I said lex if he continues to be underwhelming >.< I know he could do better stuff as town.
I don't think he is a good lynch D1. You will remove a potential good player because he is "underwhelming". If you lynch him, you should lynch him solely for his Skynx read. Which I kinda like. Might have been TMI. But I like it.
On August 26 2017 00:34 Koshi wrote: Town for a very long time Damdred Vivax
Going to read them town for now LightningStrike Artanis[Xp] raynpelikoneet Skynx
Very very slight townread Tumblewood
MIA Oatsmaster
Mafia Geript ruXxar HF
He had HF and you scumread before your votes????
gl hf bois. I think I am at least 2/3 right. HF is pretty certain mafia. He has been horribly shitty last couple of games (correct readwise (and compared to me)) but I think this is beyond that.
Punish the mafia. I really think I am very right. Maybe rayn is mafia as well. But I don't think he is.
So do not lynch Skynx/Artanis in future days when I am lynched. Go for geript/ruxx and hf.
I truly hope some of you quote this post a couple times in future days.
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote: I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote: because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time
I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.
It's not exactly true...
From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote: I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.
The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.
On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote: I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote: I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.
nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else
In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.
1/20
If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.
A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.
On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote: I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.
On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote: For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia. I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it.
Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
3/20
Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.
Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???
On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote: Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.
Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote: I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?
Useless question.
On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote: because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time
I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.
It's not exactly true...
From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote: I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.
The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.
On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote: I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote: I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.
nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else
In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.
1/20
If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.
A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.
On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote: I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.
On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote: For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia. I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it.
Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
3/20
Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.
Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???
On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote: Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.
Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o
Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.
Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie
You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.
Because if Damdred is mafia he spewed me as town at this point. And I was and did asked some questions towards others????
Anyways I think Oats is town atm he playing to what I remembered which is boring and blunt but granted that was years ago since I played with him in Office Mini Mafia.
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote: I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?
Useless question.
On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote: because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time
I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.
It's not exactly true...
From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote: I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.
The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.
On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote: I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote: [quote] nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else
In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.
1/20
If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.
A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.
On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote: I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.
On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote: For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia. I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it.
Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
3/20
Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.
Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???
On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote: Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.
Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o
Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.
Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie
You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.
Because if Damdred is mafia he spewed me as town at this point. And I was and did asked some questions towards others????
If damdred is mafia, he has ulterior motives for town reading you so we cant trust him. You should know this.
You didnt actually ask any questions other than the ruxxar bit. And you did nothing with that. You only said you thought he was scum when geript asked.
Most of your filter is you answering questions that dont mean anytthing.
ruxxar didn't answer my question and Damdred asked the same question later. I wish he would answer the question. I know most of my filter was answering questions but some of them were directed towards me.
On August 26 2017 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Cause it sure seems like you dont really care whos mafia and whos town.
and fyi you didn't ask me who my townreads are. + Show Spoiler +
allow me to take this opportunity to say ls, vivax, skynx, and koshi are likely town
i dont care about townreads lol.
ah, i see you approach the game differently than i do. a classic scenario
So its halfway through day 1, and you have 3 people town.
The reason I dont care about townreads is because the objective of the game is to lynch mafia, not find town people and waffle around during the day 1 lynch.
it kinda does help when you can narrow the mafia pool down continuously and home in on 4-5 possible mafia. which is exactly what i plan to do. you can call townreads garbage, but i think your tells are way outdated, so how about i keep playing the game in a way that works for me and maybe we can lynch some mafia anyway.
Oats is a old school player to be fair. What is your read on him?
On August 26 2017 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Cause it sure seems like you dont really care whos mafia and whos town.
and fyi you didn't ask me who my townreads are. + Show Spoiler +
allow me to take this opportunity to say ls, vivax, skynx, and koshi are likely town
i dont care about townreads lol.
ah, i see you approach the game differently than i do. a classic scenario
So its halfway through day 1, and you have 3 people town.
The reason I dont care about townreads is because the objective of the game is to lynch mafia, not find town people and waffle around during the day 1 lynch.
it kinda does help when you can narrow the mafia pool down continuously and home in on 4-5 possible mafia. which is exactly what i plan to do. you can call townreads garbage, but i think your tells are way outdated, so how about i keep playing the game in a way that works for me and maybe we can lynch some mafia anyway.
On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote: Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1.
How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue.
On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote: Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1.
How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue.
On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote: Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1.
How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue.
On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote: Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1.
How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue.
Will check this later to see if this is true.
Why would you post this???
koshi might actually be mafia
Just noting it for myself???
Because you look at your filter??
I do look at my own filter at times why?
He's probably gonna say you're mafia because you don't remember what you posted before and try to avoid inconsistancies.
I was just thinking why he would scumread me and then boom you posted this. I know I been inconsistant as both alignments so it's nai. Also I had a question: When you said generic you talking the latest one or generic 1? Because Generic 2 he was scum and the other one that I looked at he wasn't in it? Can confirm that he did in 2 of those games you listed just questioning the 3rd one.
On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote: Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1.
How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue.
Will check this later to see if this is true.
Why would you post this???
koshi might actually be mafia
Just noting it for myself???
Because you look at your filter??
I do look at my own filter at times why?
Great then.
So if what rayn said is true, any conclusions you can draw from it?
If it isnt true, what are the conclusions?
It's a lie but idk why Koshi would lie about that honestly I will ask him when he gets back on why he lied there.
On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote: Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1.
How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue.
Will check this later to see if this is true.
Why would you post this???
koshi might actually be mafia
Just noting it for myself???
Because you look at your filter??
I do look at my own filter at times why?
Great then.
So if what rayn said is true, any conclusions you can draw from it?
If it isnt true, what are the conclusions?
It's a lie but idk why Koshi would lie about that honestly I will ask him when he gets back on why he lied there.
Ok so its a lie, what does that mean about Koshi's alignment if it is an intentional lie or unintentional lie?
That why I need to ask Koshi if it was intentional or not....
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote: I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?
Useless question.
On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote: because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time
I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.
It's not exactly true...
From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote: I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.
The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.
On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote: I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote: [quote] nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else
In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.
1/20
If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.
A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.
On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote: I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.
On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote: For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia. I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it.
Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
3/20
Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.
Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???
On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote: Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.
Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o
Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.
Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie
You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote: I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?
Useless question.
On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote: because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time
I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.
It's not exactly true...
From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote: I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.
The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.
On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote: I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote: I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.
nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else
In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.
1/20
If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.
A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.
On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote: I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.
On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote: For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia. I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it.
Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
3/20
Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.
Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???
On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote: Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.
Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier. @Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least.
On August 26 2017 13:57 LightningStrike wrote: Read the thread since I got home from taking care of college stuff. HF and Rayn thinks Koshi is mafia. ruxxar did answer my question and Damdred's question indirectly. People thinking skynx is scum still. I wondering if I wrong on any of my townreads I had earlier. @Oats You probably interpreting wrong about the last part of that 2nd post. It doesn't feel like he was calling him bad instead of scum to me at least.
Yo, mornin.
Do you have any read on skynx? Cause it doesn't result to me.
If possible, put it in relation to Koshi please cause they are the current wagons atm.
@ HF
Can you do a Koshi vs Skynx thingy? Cause it isn't clear who you're feeling is stronger mafia and it looks like it's Koshi although you said you were the guy who started the skynx wagon (while not even voting for him atm).
I have town he had similar thoughts that I had on some points. if sky nx and koshi are a team which I don't think they are then maybe they just distanced themselves so far apart?
On August 26 2017 23:36 Damdred wrote: I read his filter.
I think he's still a 7.5/10 town read. My initial read is still a good one I think, he has his classic town obliviousness. And he seems honest, and also one super important thing is he's not just jumping on obvious town wagons/pushed just to have votes up.
There are a couple of negatives, he was a little lazy expecting other people to do meta instead of the hyper active ls. And he's a bit more sideline and trusting of people (like me what I've got him a lot before and he just goes along with me and soft shades me to oats really frustrating ls).
Overall I think hes town still and not worth a lynch today for sure.
I actually did try to look up the meta stuff myself after rayn posted i just had trouble finding his generic 3 for some reason and no I wasn't throwing shades at you I was just saying he should trust your read on me and he you might be scum. I was only explain what if you were mafia but that was all and I do think you are town this game.
Koshi if you are around why did you lie about HF not having scumread one of the scum members in the last 3 games? I not accusing you of being mafia for it I just want to know why.
On August 27 2017 01:20 Oatsmaster wrote: he seems really concerned about my read on him, like absurdly concerned. Calling it a tunnel multiple times. Which is interesting.
Because sometimes people being tunneled isn't exactly alignment indicative? I promise you this though: Vivax is easy to catch Day 2 as scum. But for now I think he's town atm.
On August 26 2017 20:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I can lynch either Koshi or Geript today. Will sheep you on either, but people could be coming in at any moment now.
I'm sure its probably been talked about.
But this post by art super bugs me, he spends previous posts driving himself to vote for koshi and spend a none with geript, ends up settling on koshi with very little paranoia about geript being there.
And as much grief as he gave koshi about res progression geript is pretty b.s. to and he never calls him out.
Really bad
So I think this got missed in the posting which is annoying, but comments on arts vote progression would be pretty nice I think
A bit strange I can confirm he didn't post a reason why he was scumreading Geript. He got some explaining to do on that part.
On August 27 2017 01:20 Oatsmaster wrote: he seems really concerned about my read on him, like absurdly concerned. Calling it a tunnel multiple times. Which is interesting.
Because sometimes people being tunneled isn't exactly alignment indicative? I promise you this though: Vivax is easy to catch Day 2 as scum. But for now I think he's town atm.
Why would Vivax be easy to catch on day 2?
Because he can't post much at all as scum after Night 1. Been a reliable way to catch him.
On August 26 2017 20:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I can lynch either Koshi or Geript today. Will sheep you on either, but people could be coming in at any moment now.
I'm sure its probably been talked about.
But this post by art super bugs me, he spends previous posts driving himself to vote for koshi and spend a none with geript, ends up settling on koshi with very little paranoia about geript being there.
And as much grief as he gave koshi about res progression geript is pretty b.s. to and he never calls him out.
Really bad
So I think this got missed in the posting which is annoying, but comments on arts vote progression would be pretty nice I think
A bit strange I can confirm he didn't post a reason why he was scumreading Geript. He got some explaining to do on that part.
But what your conclusion about art from it ls?
If Lex is scum it could partner indicative on Geript since he hasn't given a reason why he scumreading Geript could be a bussing attempt for credit.
On August 27 2017 01:20 Oatsmaster wrote: he seems really concerned about my read on him, like absurdly concerned. Calling it a tunnel multiple times. Which is interesting.
Because sometimes people being tunneled isn't exactly alignment indicative? I promise you this though: Vivax is easy to catch Day 2 as scum. But for now I think he's town atm.
Why would Vivax be easy to catch on day 2?
Because he can't post much at all as scum after Night 1. Been a reliable way to catch him.
He hasnt really posted much this game at this point anyway. So he posts less than this in the later days?
On August 27 2017 01:20 Oatsmaster wrote: he seems really concerned about my read on him, like absurdly concerned. Calling it a tunnel multiple times. Which is interesting.
Because sometimes people being tunneled isn't exactly alignment indicative? I promise you this though: Vivax is easy to catch Day 2 as scum. But for now I think he's town atm.
Why would Vivax be easy to catch on day 2?
Because he can't post much at all as scum after Night 1. Been a reliable way to catch him.
He hasnt really posted much this game at this point anyway. So he posts less than this in the later days?
Correct.
Who you gonna lynch today?
One of Lex or Geript depending if we got enough people to get on either one of them.
On August 27 2017 01:20 Oatsmaster wrote: he seems really concerned about my read on him, like absurdly concerned. Calling it a tunnel multiple times. Which is interesting.
Because sometimes people being tunneled isn't exactly alignment indicative? I promise you this though: Vivax is easy to catch Day 2 as scum. But for now I think he's town atm.
Why would Vivax be easy to catch on day 2?
Because he can't post much at all as scum after Night 1. Been a reliable way to catch him.
He hasnt really posted much this game at this point anyway. So he posts less than this in the later days?
Correct.
Who you gonna lynch today?
One of Lex or Geript depending if we got enough people to get on either one of them.
Just checked the voting thread that Geript got 3 votes voting him atm felt his interactions with Koshi were forced and didn't like some of his other content either although I do feel a bit sad about his irl situation.
On August 27 2017 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I really do not think Koshi is the right answer here since i am scumreading every one his targets except for Holyflare.
On August 27 2017 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I really do not think Koshi is the right answer here since i am scumreading every one his targets except for Holyflare.
Then who you rather lynch atm?
Nvm you just voted while I was making this post. I didn't like some his posts earlier espcally talking to him myself he was very stubborn and combative for no reason. Hmmm.
On August 27 2017 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I really do not think Koshi is the right answer here since i am scumreading every one his targets except for Holyflare.
Then who you rather lynch atm?
Nvm you just voted while I was making this post. I didn't like some his posts earlier espcally talking to him myself he was very stubborn and combative for no reason. Hmmm.
Whats scummy about being stubborn and combative? How does doing that advance the scum objective?
Don't think ruxxar was ever combative and stubborn regardless of his alignment when I had played with him.
On August 27 2017 03:36 LightningStrike wrote: Like Idk if it makes him town or scum but he didn't answer me and Damdreds question until much later.
But you think he is scummy for being combative and stubborn right? Or did I misunderstand that post and you werent actually agreeing with rayns vote?
Could make scum but idk. What you think of ruxxar then?
Hey you didnt answer the question. How is combative and stubborn scummy??
I dont think hes scum.
Because I don't think he would do that as town myself but never seen him done as scum either. Being combative and stubborn not really townie trait isn't something I associated with ruxxar.
On August 27 2017 03:36 LightningStrike wrote: Like Idk if it makes him town or scum but he didn't answer me and Damdreds question until much later.
But you think he is scummy for being combative and stubborn right? Or did I misunderstand that post and you werent actually agreeing with rayns vote?
Could make scum but idk. What you think of ruxxar then?
Hey you didnt answer the question. How is combative and stubborn scummy??
I dont think hes scum.
Because I don't think he would do that as town myself but never seen him done as scum either. Being combative and stubborn not really townie trait isn't something I associated with ruxxar.
No dude, why would scum!ruxxar be combative and stubborn?
Because it would look townie enough to buy town cred.
On August 27 2017 03:36 LightningStrike wrote: Like Idk if it makes him town or scum but he didn't answer me and Damdreds question until much later.
But you think he is scummy for being combative and stubborn right? Or did I misunderstand that post and you werent actually agreeing with rayns vote?
Could make scum but idk. What you think of ruxxar then?
Hey you didnt answer the question. How is combative and stubborn scummy??
I dont think hes scum.
Because I don't think he would do that as town myself but never seen him done as scum either. Being combative and stubborn not really townie trait isn't something I associated with ruxxar.
No dude, why would scum!ruxxar be combative and stubborn?
Because it would look townie enough to buy town cred.
So you think it looks townie but town ruxxar wont do it therefore its scummy?
Am I getting it right?
From what I remember of ruxxar that is correct. He fooled people well in his first two scum games on TL. I got PTSD from his first game....
On August 27 2017 03:36 LightningStrike wrote: Like Idk if it makes him town or scum but he didn't answer me and Damdreds question until much later.
But you think he is scummy for being combative and stubborn right? Or did I misunderstand that post and you werent actually agreeing with rayns vote?
Could make scum but idk. What you think of ruxxar then?
Hey you didnt answer the question. How is combative and stubborn scummy??
I dont think hes scum.
Because I don't think he would do that as town myself but never seen him done as scum either. Being combative and stubborn not really townie trait isn't something I associated with ruxxar.
No dude, why would scum!ruxxar be combative and stubborn?
Because it would look townie enough to buy town cred.
So you think it looks townie but town ruxxar wont do it therefore its scummy?
Am I getting it right?
From what I remember of ruxxar that is correct. He fooled people well in his first two scum games on TL. I got PTSD from his first game....
On August 27 2017 04:00 Oatsmaster wrote: LS has approached this whole voting period very weirdly. He mentions wanting to lynch artanis over 30 minutes ago but doesnt actually do it till damdred and rayn get on him. He waffles around artanis after he says this
On August 27 2017 02:44 Oatsmaster wrote: HAHAHAHA
LS where did you go man.
I want to see you convince people about geript.
I honestly starting to get second thoughts while I was playing LoL. Gut tells me we should lynch Lex. Anyone here open for a Lex lynch?
like he is being convinced by rayn.
It all seems really fake and he only did it after approval by other people.
No I started to get seconds on Geript when he did his last post made thing he was town and seeing someone going to replaced I assuming Geript because of that post again did you not FUCKING SEE THAT POST? Ruxxar like Isaid I had some problems with his posts but his combativness and his stuborness idk if it made him town or scum but I was leaning more scum. I had explained why I thought lex was scum....
On August 27 2017 04:03 LightningStrike wrote: I had explained why I thought lex was scum....
Yes, the problem is that you seemed to think that he was scum, then typed some shit about damdred posting stuff and then voted him.
You unvoted geript then just hung around waiting for someone to propose something that you could hop onto, rather than going with artanis that you thought was scummy earlier
Because I didn't think we had enough votes for a lex lynch.
On August 27 2017 04:03 LightningStrike wrote: I had explained why I thought lex was scum....
Yes, the problem is that you seemed to think that he was scum, then typed some shit about damdred posting stuff and then voted him.
You unvoted geript then just hung around waiting for someone to propose something that you could hop onto, rather than going with artanis that you thought was scummy earlier
Because I didn't think we had enough votes for a lex lynch.
You didnt even vote for anyone. What were you waiting for?
I was looking to see if anyone else wanted a lex lynch. I knew Damdred but I didn't know anyone else.
On August 27 2017 04:03 LightningStrike wrote: I had explained why I thought lex was scum....
Yes, the problem is that you seemed to think that he was scum, then typed some shit about damdred posting stuff and then voted him.
You unvoted geript then just hung around waiting for someone to propose something that you could hop onto, rather than going with artanis that you thought was scummy earlier
Because I didn't think we had enough votes for a lex lynch.
You didnt even vote for anyone. What were you waiting for?
I was looking to see if anyone else wanted a lex lynch. I knew Damdred but I didn't know anyone else.
By looking you mean making one post and waiting.
Why didnt you vote?
Like I said I didn't know if we had enough votes and solo voting would of made me look very bad -.-
On August 27 2017 04:20 LightningStrike wrote: Why were you scumreading Geript earlier because you left it unexplained?
Funnily enough Koshi made a number of decent posts on it. Mainly that his posts just weren't going anywhere. Since his recent spat though I'd say we need to see what his replacement will do.
Mafia probably had a field day with that EoD I think given how Koshi flipped and how Lex pretty much thought he was lynched and gave a last will ala similar how I did in Dark Tournament. I will take a closer look at the vote count now.
Non-voters (0): Currently, Koshi is set to be lynched.
Seeing how close EoD was there might be a scum on the off wagons and the rest of the team probably split up there votes I wonder why Vivax didn't come back at all EoD wasting his vote on Skynx. I know rayn claimed parity cop earlier so Vivax could be mafia given how EoD played out..
Non-voters (0): Currently, Koshi is set to be lynched.
Seeing how close EoD was there might be a scum on the off wagons and the rest of the team probably split up there votes I wonder why Vivax didn't come back at all EoD wasting his vote on Skynx. I know rayn claimed parity cop earlier so Vivax could be mafia given how EoD played out..
Why would mafia care with such a close wagon I it was t v t?
Sure off votes kook bad but what about the reasoning on wagon?
Mafia wouldn't really care per say but they could of pulled their votes off onto another wagon. What wagon you talking about? If you talking about Lex I had some issues with him being underwhelming and your point about his Geript read I agreed with.
Honestly I see what you talking about but do you think Lex could come up with a last will as scum so quickly? Vivax you know better than afking at deadline...... You should of been pushing Skynx at deadline....
On August 28 2017 06:39 LightningStrike wrote: Anyways I found rayn's reasoning for fake claiming cop kinda bullshit tbh but don't think it makes him scum. His play seems townie enough.
I think I found X.
How can you say it's bull shit but then not think he's scum?????????
His reasoning for it was bull shit but his play outside of been townie enough at least where I at right now.
Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you ##Vote: LightningStrike I can't be bothered to defend myself when I rather spend my birthday doing other stuff.
On August 28 2017 08:14 LightningStrike wrote: Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you ##Vote: LightningStrike I can't be bothered to defend myself when I rather spend my birthday doing other stuff.
What an overreaction. Why werent you this mad when I called you scum earlier
But for real though something doesn't feel right this game like if Lex is really mafia and Onegu/Geript is mafia too then who the hell would be the 3rd mafia.
On August 28 2017 14:49 ruXxar wrote: Rayn fake cop claim is super scummy for these reasons:
1) It attempts to bait out a parity cop counter claim.
A parity cop is useless before day 3, so catching them early is what you want to do. There is absolutely zero reason for a parity cop to counterclaim, when Rayn can go "I wasn't really serious lul" and now mafia has exposed the strongest town role in the game.
2) It wastes the Jailkeeper save.
This means that scum doesn't need to worry about medic dodging and can pick whichever target they want.
3) Guaranteed KP for mafia.
With the jailer jailing Rayn, the other mafia KP carrier on his scum team has a 0% chance to be jailed, guaranteeing a kill for scum.
The chance that there is mafia in HF/Rayn is 99.9%.
Can you read this case LS and tell me if something is still unclear?
He claimed jail keeper from what I found if I read it right.........
Oh if you guys wanted to know where I came up with the idea of the trap I was eating dinner last night and thought it would be a good idea to see if mafia would try to lynch me in a attempt to save Lex if Lex was mafia but everyone got to confused >.<
On August 29 2017 00:22 LightningStrike wrote: BTW Today is really my birthday but got class at 2:00 pm CST to 3:20 pm CST dunno how to feel about that lmao.
happy birthday
Thank you and sorry for saying fuck you but I had to make the trap sound more real.
Voting Lex for now thought his EoD was townie sounding but his martyr and his admission of writing the lw in 15 minutes really making me doubt him being town but my trap failed ##Vote: Artanis[Xp]
On August 29 2017 00:13 ruXxar wrote: It's really simple. I'll repeat it for all of you so everyone understands.
Why HF is scum:
1) HF and Rayn are the best NKs.
2) Rayn fake claims parity cop.
3) Jailkeeper should be protecting Rayn. HF should get NKed.
4) Day 2, HF is alive.
Conclusion: HF is scum.
Why Rayn is scum:
On August 28 2017 14:49 ruXxar wrote: Rayn fake cop claim is super scummy for these reasons:
1) It attempts to bait out a parity cop counter claim.
A parity cop is useless before day 3, so catching them early is what you want to do. There is absolutely zero reason for a parity cop to counterclaim, when Rayn can go "I wasn't really serious lul" and now mafia has exposed the strongest town role in the game.
2) It wastes the Jailkeeper save.
This means that scum doesn't need to worry about medic dodging and can pick whichever target they want.
3) Guaranteed KP for mafia.
With the jailer jailing Rayn, the other mafia KP carrier on his scum team has a 0% chance to be jailed, guaranteeing a kill for scum.
The chance that there is mafia in HF/Rayn is 99.9%.
Can you read this case LS and tell me if something is still unclear?
He claimed jail keeper from what I found if I read it right.........
On August 29 2017 10:09 LightningStrike wrote: Where is everyone?
Hi LS
What do you think about HF? Actually what do you think about me?
I might have to sheep Damdred's read on HF and caall him town because I would think with rayn being jail keeper he probably would of jailed HF and someone died unless HF wasn't carrying the kp. You I had you town earlier I know rayn was calling you scum for your EoD stuff. I still kinda confident on my read on you.
On August 29 2017 10:09 LightningStrike wrote: Where is everyone?
Hi LS
What do you think about HF? Actually what do you think about me?
I might have to sheep Damdred's read on HF and caall him town because I would think with rayn being jail keeper he probably would of jailed HF and someone died unless HF wasn't carrying the kp. You I had you town earlier I know rayn was calling you scum for your EoD stuff. I still kinda confident on my read on you.
Mafia shot is carried by someone? Whos the other 2 mafia then?
Yes mafia shot is carried by someone it's in the op. ruxxar and if I wrong on any of my town reads would be geript because his play wasn't good but him replacing out like that made me feel like he just was a super depressed town.
On August 29 2017 10:09 LightningStrike wrote: Where is everyone?
Hi LS
What do you think about HF? Actually what do you think about me?
I might have to sheep Damdred's read on HF and caall him town because I would think with rayn being jail keeper he probably would of jailed HF and someone died unless HF wasn't carrying the kp. You I had you town earlier I know rayn was calling you scum for your EoD stuff. I still kinda confident on my read on you.
Mafia shot is carried by someone? Whos the other 2 mafia then?
Yes mafia shot is carried by someone it's in the op. ruxxar and if I wrong on any of my town reads would be geript/onegu because his play wasn't good but him replacing out like that made me feel like he just was a super depressed town.
On August 29 2017 10:09 LightningStrike wrote: Where is everyone?
Hi LS
What do you think about HF? Actually what do you think about me?
I might have to sheep Damdred's read on HF and caall him town because I would think with rayn being jail keeper he probably would of jailed HF and someone died unless HF wasn't carrying the kp. You I had you town earlier I know rayn was calling you scum for your EoD stuff. I still kinda confident on my read on you.
Mafia shot is carried by someone? Whos the other 2 mafia then?
Yes mafia shot is carried by someone it's in the op. ruxxar and if I wrong on any of my town reads would be geript because his play wasn't good but him replacing out like that made me feel like he just was a super depressed town.
You are definitely wrong about one of your townreads right?
From what I understand you only dont townread rux and art.
On August 30 2017 03:10 Skynx wrote: I 100% expect a JK claim before EoN.
Why you so certain rayn isn't the jailkeeper?
Cuz his claim is such a genius play as mafia, it gives him engame towncred had they not killed the real parity cop.
As town, he's just jeopardizing the town. He just spends entire posts trying to justify his play "so I'm alive, HF is alive yada yada" but i don't see it.
Rolf this sounds like a Vivax thing to say I pretty sure that rayn wouldn't do that pla nas mafia because !. He wouldn't even kill Vivax there. 2. Rayn would get cc'd which means a 1 for 1 trade which favors town.
On August 30 2017 13:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have an assumption here, and i would like you to discuss this with me Damdred. My assumption (or rather observation) is from the games i have played that LS has a really hard time lying )and/or making up stuff).
On August 28 2017 06:39 LightningStrike wrote: Anyways I found rayn's reasoning for fake claiming cop kinda bullshit tbh but don't think it makes him scum. His play seems townie enough.
This post is super weird, it's like he wants to call me mafia but doesn't after all. That would be in my opinion a "LS-reasonable approach" as mafia as Skynx and Ruxxar are already calling me mafia.
On August 28 2017 08:14 LightningStrike wrote: Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you ##Vote: LightningStrike I can't be bothered to defend myself when I rather spend my birthday doing other stuff.
On August 28 2017 13:11 LightningStrike wrote: Damn tried to put a trap for mafia a easy way out of lynching lex if lex is mafia and no one was biting ##Unvote
On August 29 2017 00:24 LightningStrike wrote: Oh if you guys wanted to know where I came up with the idea of the trap I was eating dinner last night and thought it would be a good idea to see if mafia would try to lynch me in a attempt to save Lex if Lex was mafia but everyone got to confused >.<
This sounds like a super bad lie. I have been reading this over and over again and i am not sure LS is telling the whole truth here. I don't know what's wrong here but this sounds so wrong to my ear. I mean like he said something really dumb, HF calls him out and then he turns it into a reaction test?? It just sounds so wrong tbh.
On August 29 2017 10:09 LightningStrike wrote: Where is everyone?
Hi LS
What do you think about HF? Actually what do you think about me?
I might have to sheep Damdred's read on HF and caall him town because I would think with rayn being jail keeper he probably would of jailed HF and someone died unless HF wasn't carrying the kp. You I had you town earlier I know rayn was calling you scum for your EoD stuff. I still kinda confident on my read on you.
Mafia shot is carried by someone? Whos the other 2 mafia then?
Yes mafia shot is carried by someone it's in the op. ruxxar and if I wrong on any of my town reads would be geript because his play wasn't good but him replacing out like that made me feel like he just was a super depressed town.
This one, i don't even know what this one means. Does LS' brain work like this? "There is 3 mafia in the game - i have townreads on everyone except for Artanis and ruxxar so MAYBE i am wrong in one of my townreads"....???? I mean like do you -- Damdred -- think he actually thinks like that as town? Remember that he has basically just called Ruxxar "possibly too dumb to be scum" so i don't really know if that should be even a scumread in his mind.
Is this how LS reacts to being called mafia when he is town?
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote: I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?
Useless question.
On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.
It's not exactly true...
From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote: I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.
The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.
On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote: [quote] If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.
A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.
On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote: I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.
On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote: For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia. I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it.
Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
3/20
Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.
Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???
On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote: Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.
Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o
Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.
Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie
You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote: I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?
Useless question.
On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote: because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time
I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.
It's not exactly true...
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On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote: I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.
The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.
On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote: I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote: [quote] nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else
In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks. Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.
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If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.
A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.
On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote: I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.
On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote: For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia. I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it.
Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
3/20
Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.
Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???
On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote: Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.
Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
On August 28 2017 08:14 LightningStrike wrote: Fuck you HF I will make this easier for you ##Vote: LightningStrike
I mean like Oats was pushing him like half of D1 yet he remained super calm and i got a feeling he was in "you won't lynch me anyways"-kind-of-mindstate, which doesn't feel natural at all for him.
The reaction test was something I thought of during dinner but apparantly to many people got confused on it so I ended it >.> And No I wasn't trying to call you mafia I just thought your reasoning was bullshit that was all. About my ruxxar read I wasn't calling him to dumb to be scum idk where you got that from......... His narrative pushing on you was absolutely made no sense for a townie. He was calling you scum even after you claimed jailkeepr which I figure he was never this dumb as town when he played to do that which why I think he's scum.
Also rayn you do know I only been mislyunched twice past Day 2 as town right? Anyways going to bed now I just was upset about how you guys pretty much wasted 48 hours and not really talking much.
If you guys need to lynch you can but I pretty sure the scum team is ruxxar maybe tw + onegu because I kinda forgot TW was in the game which isn't something I used to. Geript/Onegu's play was terrible. Ruxxar's play so dumb and had to check out his town games and concluded he was likely scum for his dumb play.
On August 30 2017 23:48 LightningStrike wrote: If you guys need to lynch me you can but I pretty sure the scum team is ruxxar maybe tw + onegu because I kinda forgot TW was in the game which isn't something I used to. Geript/Onegu's play was terrible. Ruxxar's play so dumb and had to check out his town games and concluded he was likely scum for his dumb play.
On August 31 2017 00:04 LightningStrike wrote: I done playing with mafia after this game completely regardless of the outcome it just not fun anymore. Will post bare minimum for rest of the game.
You know what I actually in a very good mood tonight just won a Pokemon TCG League Challenge with a deck that is about to rotate out of standard. I think we should lynch Onegu/Geript's slot right now because Onegu hasn't done shit and neither did Geript when they were around. The other option assuming we can do this is to no lynch to get more night kill info but I prefer to lynch Onegu right now.
On August 31 2017 12:45 LightningStrike wrote: You know what I actually in a very good mood tonight just won a Pokemon TCG League Challenge with a deck that is about to rotate out of standard. I think we should lynch Onegu/Geript's slot right now because Onegu hasn't done shit and neither did Geript when they were around. The other option assuming we can do this is to no lynch to get more night kill info but I prefer to lynch Onegu right now.
def not worth waiting. if we neeed to we can do it at mylo, but i would rather not have to have every single member of town vote correctly after seeing 3 people flip out about rayn yesterday.
Pretty sure Onegu is still scum I know he usally likes playing scum more than town and puts in more effort in his scum games. ruxxar and tw were my poe scum as I think you and Oats are town Damdred. Only one I think Icould be wrong is on HF but I honestly kinda doubt it atm. @HF Was hoping you had your case ready for people.
Onegu hasn't really pushed for my lynch at all which I am kinda surprised because I sure he might actually do tha tas town instead of just fucking off like that.
On September 05 2017 04:34 LightningStrike wrote: God damn it I knew Onegu was scum GG Well played. I actually quitting TL Mafia for real at least for the forums but I will still play voice.
This is only the fourth time i've heard you say this
I actually following through on that just going to play voice with you guys. Game isn't as fun anymore for me.
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