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Carry me senpai. | ||
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On May 10 2017 15:24 Grackaroni wrote: They looked kinda like this: Why have you taken fuba's secund post and changed his name to me? I never said this. You editing posts to try and look good? | ||
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On May 10 2017 16:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: This doesn't make any sense. Whch read of mine are shit and why? fuba excluded, but why do i make that read as mafia regardless of fuba's alignment? "which one of my 0 elaborated reads are shit. Excluding the shittest one" - raynpelikoneet 2017 All of them are shit. LS read is a piggyback on buddying palmar and copying what others have said. Palmar read is super buddy and you preface it with some bs love "let's work together friend!" damdred no context and fuba is the worst of all. You then complain when people don't elaborate and have no form of elaboration I can't see how it possibly doesn't make sense to you. Making any town reads with 0 elaboration or anything to keep you liable for it in the future is the easiest thing to do as mafia in the world. | ||
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Rayn, are your reads that I'm voting you for intricate and detailed? | ||
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Town rayn finds mafia. Town rayn determines alignment of good players. Town rayn super paranoid questions everything and misreads all posts. Mafia rayn not paranoid. Mafia rayn town reads half the game on 0 posts. Mafia rayn's interest to buddy people. Mafia rayn's interest to shit fight to the extreme. | ||
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On May 10 2017 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: On further note this is another reason why HF is scum. My interactions with Grack have nothing to do with why he calls me mafia. Therefore there is no reason for these interactions to lessen his scumread on me. Basically i did thing X which makes me mafia. Then i did Y which in HF's mind lessens the scumminess of thing X. That doesnt make any sense. But I'm town so this is demonstrably false :D I mean all you're doing is saying that I'm looking at multiple facets to read you an alignment, which only one alignment tends to do soooooo...... | ||
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Thing y not so scummy. Thing z (you being dumb and doing this omgus push on me) is scummy. Conclusion: scummy | ||
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So why not just think they're all town finding the same inconsistencies instead? Seems really farfetched you'd jump on me. | ||
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On May 10 2017 22:25 darthfoley wrote: I would also like HF to explain how rayn's interaction with Grack made you less suspicious of him given His initial questions were good prodding. Then he gets into shit pointless pedantics of an argument and it looks bad. See, "super paranoid questions everything town rayn" then refer to "rayn interest to shit fight to extreme" with grack and then me for no reason whatsoever afterwards. | ||
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On May 10 2017 22:21 darthfoley wrote: Since when do you just call someone rude and call it a day? This is a good observation though. Grack never backs down when he thinks there's the slightest chance I'm mafia. Even tunneling the whole game. | ||
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On May 10 2017 23:02 Tumblewood wrote: + I think hf was kinda looking for an excuse to blow up at the grack post, because a player trying to make sense of the game would think, "this doesn't make sense, I didn't say that," and try to find out why instead of jumping to the (wrong) conclusion that grack is scum. and then if you thought for another two seconds you'd see it was a joke No I'm egotistical and saw some false bull shit and called it out and then i saw it was just for fun after reading his filter and dropped it. Hence why you've never heard about it again. Or are you implying I still think he's mafia and didn't look into it? In which case why the fuck are you not calling that into question? | ||
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On May 11 2017 02:12 Tumblewood wrote: this is fine I can just ignore Palmar for d1 You ignoring me too? You can't just fling shit in my direction and get away with it. Reply to me. | ||
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On May 11 2017 03:31 Grackaroni wrote: I'm also liking TW. It seems townie to me that he's making the read that nobody else can understand, and this is the kind of approach to reading people that I'm used to seeing from him as town. And what about his read on me? He basically dropped a bunch of shit saying something he can't possibly believe and then ignored all his reasons for it and said nothing more about it. Alsoooo do you have any suspicion that rayn is mafia right now? | ||
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On May 11 2017 04:44 LightningStrike wrote: Ugh yes you were in that fight on pages 6-10 mainly with rayn more so than grack but still you were involved. When does posting a read and elaborating it become a fight? I'd quite like you to actually post some conclusions of your own instead of just asking other people. Definitely seen you skate by like this before. | ||
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On May 10 2017 23:02 Tumblewood wrote: + I think hf was kinda looking for an excuse to blow up at the grack post, because a player trying to make sense of the game would think, "this doesn't make sense, I didn't say that," and try to find out why instead of jumping to the (wrong) conclusion that grack is scum. and then if you thought for another two seconds you'd see it was a joke This is quite blatantly a jab at me trying to throw shade in my direction without actually reaching the conclusion he's blatantly saying. If I'm "looking for an excuse to blow up" then by definition he thinks I'm mafia because why would I need an excuse as town to do anything? But then I have no follow up to that post I made which follows the other conclusion he wrote that I followed it and saw it was a joke. The entirety of this post is calling me mafia for doing what he thinks a towny would do. If he didn't realise I haven't posted any follow up then why is he not pushing it and calling me mafia for blowing up at a troll post? If he knows I haven't said any more then why is this post here? It is basically drivel that has no conviction and with no follow up from himself is baaaaad. | ||
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On May 11 2017 04:57 Grackaroni wrote: What he's saying is that as town you never would have made the post in the first place. I think Rayn called out that post too after you made it. That's exactly what I just said. He's calling me mafia but said absolutely nothing about me being mafia or cared to follow it up. I literally dropped that post straight away when I realised. I even made a post about it: On May 10 2017 23:06 Holyflare wrote: No I'm egotistical and saw some false bull shit and called it out and then i saw it was just for fun after reading his filter and dropped it. Hence why you've never heard about it again. Or are you implying I still think he's mafia and didn't look into it? In which case why the fuck are you not calling that into question? And he's been back since and said nothing! Nothing! You think I'm his mafia read or what? | ||
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On May 11 2017 05:04 Skynx wrote: How do you even make the cut between when Grack is trolling and not. When i looked in the people's filter and saw that none of those quotes existed. Grack: Not voting (10) - Damdred, fuba,Vivax, Tumblewood, Prison Break, Skynx, Grackaroni, Palmar, darthfoley, LightningStrike Why? | ||
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Secrets my friend | ||
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So naturally he must be lynched. | ||
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On May 11 2017 05:55 Grackaroni wrote: I'll argue if I think the other person is actually arguing to play mafia. Palmar was just deliberately trying to antagonize me, while referring to himself as a troll, so there was no point in me sticking around and getting more pissed off talking to him. Do you even know what DF said? Seems like you're the one throwing crap in someone's direction now. His read was about you and Rayn and how you were basically bending over to Rayn's beck and call instead of being obstinate and fighting. Which is a good correct read. | ||
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Df has legit reasons that you say are not awful. I reference those. You mention about his palmar read. Ok. Bai. | ||
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On May 11 2017 06:43 Grackaroni wrote: You gave a half assed Vivax read saying you don't hate him so he's mafia. What are your real thoughts on him? No i was referring to your meek rayn posts where you were all "yes, sir, anything you want, sir!" and then had no follow up and left the thread without fighting for anything to do with it. I don't care about your crappy palmar interaction in this specific post. My vivax read is what I said. He's done not much but I didn't hate the little he's done because it's inquisitive but shit inquisitive that isn't driving anything. It makes sense and isn't farfetched so I'm paranoid of him being mafia. It's not much, no. | ||
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On May 11 2017 06:43 Damdred wrote: I do like this post from DF, HF. He was also the first one to call out my post as summy I believe (?). But I am a little biased towards him currently eh... That's the gem post I like. More than 50% of the thread has said anyway. | ||
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On May 10 2017 17:53 Grackaroni wrote: We seem to be right on track here atm. I think we should all just chill out a little bit. In comparison to Grackaroni thread warrior that never drops anything, Grackaroni subservient thread cop is a stark contrast. | ||
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Then rayn stopped pushing you and you didn't care and you did nothing more and qq left when palmar insulted you. | ||
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On May 11 2017 06:54 Grackaroni wrote: Do you like what Palmar has contributed so far? Palmar is the same as vivax but with more sense and more fear. But I liked his posts, they made sense. I thought his tunnel post was good even if I don't agree with it. | ||
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On May 11 2017 06:58 Grackaroni wrote: I think the point here is that you have the red banana and everybody knows it. I have proof it's not a normal coloured banana at least. | ||
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DF says you have no backbone and aren't actually fighting, which is true because you were pointlessly submissive and not actually determining his alignment. Both independently good points. | ||
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On May 11 2017 06:58 Holyflare wrote: Palmar is the same as vivax but with more sense and more fear. But I liked his posts, they made sense. I thought his tunnel post was good even if I don't agree with it. There's also this. | ||
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And yet they're still both good points | ||
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On May 11 2017 08:44 Tumblewood wrote: okay, I might as well get all my reads out at once: grack is my rock for now. and ls, but I always read him town. (don't get confused, he still is town. I'm always right.) for now I'm gonna just ignore Palmar and Hf, because Palmar is obstinate and not crusading yet Hf is kinda just yelling and picking fights. plus one of them or rayn will probably die n1 Damdred is a little good in my book prison break seems like most players I see from other sites. he seems to at least believe what he's saying skynx has disappointed me so far. he reminds me of myself which is usually a bad sign fuba had one post I thought sucked but other than that I've been ignoring him rayn is town I think? I like rayn, he's doin good stuff anyone else I just forgot was playing On May 11 2017 08:34 Tumblewood wrote: well looks like I was wrong on Hf. on the bright side I feel like I sparked discussion of something U wut? | ||
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On May 11 2017 08:34 Tumblewood wrote: well looks like I was wrong on Hf. on the bright side I feel like I sparked discussion of something Can you explain this then? What exactly were you wrong about and why? | ||
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On May 11 2017 16:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: And this is a completely horrible conclusion towards a conversation where Grackaroni explains his thought process to me because when you do that (explaining), you are naturally not attacking the other player since that's not what you are doing at the time. Like how fucking hard that is for people to understand.... Grackaroni, famed for attacking players that call him mafia relentlessly explains his thought process and nothing more despite other people calling that target mafia too. Colour me surprised that you misrepresent the argument again. | ||
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So darthfoley is mafia because he makes a good meta post on Grack with the correct conclusion, twice, but you ignore the meta instead and say you don't care. Lol. I'm mafia because? Oh yeh because you said I can't think something that's blatantly obvious to think and you've said nothing new since then. All your other reads are nothing. | ||
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Just talk to me like a human being man. I don't have the energy or care for this game to bother getting into petty fights over your illiteracy. | ||
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Why do you keep saying I think he's mafia? Because I liked that darthfoley found something good? It's a good point, it weighs in favour of grack being mafia but it doesn't make him mafia. I think between that post and him saying grack was running away from palmar it was an intuitive observation and seemed pretty natural for him to say. None of those things are what you're saying I'm saying. | ||
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But it's not only towards me, you did the same thing regarding Grackaroni and Tumblewood, and that's basically all you have really talked about this game, so 3/3. This is coming from the person that says people are only looking at surface level things? You're mischaracterising me digging for information as "only calling people that mafia read me mafia". Tumblewood has a case for me to be mafia, I call him out and he does some weird 180 into nothing. Why is he not voting me? I don't even think/know if he's actually calling me mafia and I want to know. About 90% of the time mafia call me mafia in games day 1 but don't want to lynch me. The 10% is grack. You know how I find mafia? By asking them questions. Shocking revelation that I don't wildly call people mafia or town blindly. | ||
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On May 11 2017 18:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Then you're focusing too much time onto something you dont even think is relevant. I think it's highly relevant. He's posted a list post that said nothing. He's made weird 180s and no follow up. He doesn't even know what he's saying. I have a list of people I think look majorly better and I work through the people that look crap. Tumblewood looks the worst in the game at the moment. | ||
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For now I will pursue this Tumblewood degenerate. | ||
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On May 11 2017 18:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you know anything about Tumblewoods play nothing he has said makes him mafia. I don't know a single thing about Tumblewood's play but I want to question inconsistencies when I see them. Also sorry for what I've been saying. Bad time irl. I do honestly want to talk properly though because I am 100% town and I want to figure things out. | ||
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Damdred why did you say you didn't like df but then went oit of your way to post a post you did like? Which is basically 20% of his filter anyway. It seems weird to me like you're trying to prove you have similar reads to me. | ||
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Prison break Fuba (I'm stealing rayn's point because i actually like it for now (i do read rayn!)) Hmmm town??? Skynx Palmar Df?? Shock! Step your shit up Vivax Damd Ls Sl Grack Rayn (but hf wtf are you saying?) Bad Tumble | ||
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He was super submissive to rayn. He spent all that time basically trying to outline to me that your and df's points were different and he had no conclusion on me, you or df other than "people's conclusions can be different" and was just basically arguing for the sake of it. His interactions with me are all defensive. Underwhelming, definitely, scummy motivation, maybe? You've definitely got under his skin at least. | ||
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On May 11 2017 21:19 Holyflare wrote: Well grack definitely can be. I just haven't really looked into anything. Everything he does is weird though. He says df/vivax definitely contains mafia, spends no real time talking about them and votes you instead. He was super submissive to rayn. He spent all that time basically trying to outline to me that your and df's points were different and he had no conclusion on me, you or df other than "people's conclusions can be different" and was just basically arguing for the sake of it. His interactions with me are all defensive. Underwhelming, definitely, scummy motivation, maybe? You've definitely got under his skin at least. | ||
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On May 11 2017 22:22 LightningStrike wrote: Keep saying that to yourself and one day it might be true but not today Fite me. | ||
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You tried to drag me into a fight between grac vs rayn vs holyflare that didn't exist and when I asked you to prove it you admitted that the fight didn't even exist with me in it. You're trying to copy your filter from last game with false fights and bad meta and it stinks LS. | ||
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Don't actually know when deadline is. | ||
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On May 11 2017 22:28 Grackaroni wrote: Oh Palmar shot off three posts in a row that seemed really bad to me, like he wasn't actually evaluating anything. The point I was making was that you were citing both Palmar and DF's points to scum read me when they were completely contradictory, which it seemed like you recognized when you said that you didn't actually agree with Palmar's argument. Trying to use both just because they share the same conclusion is just scummy imo. Also I don't see how I am underwhelming, you stole what Rayn/I said to form a fuba town read and that was one of your only two reads. The other one is one that pretty much everyone else said. I have no qualms with being called underwhelming though lol. And this post just highlights what I'm confused about you. You're still stating it's scummy yet everyone you have wanted to lynch (vivax/df/palmar/damdred) are not me. Your posts don't match your other posts. Where is the conclusion and vote? Why have you stopped 24/7 scum reading me like normal? | ||
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On May 11 2017 22:29 Vivax wrote: If you try to start shenannies you're mafia, if you don't, you're town. Good deal? I do what I want. You're all a part of my megalopolis. | ||
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On May 11 2017 22:28 LightningStrike wrote: Ugh yes you did come into the fight although maybe more in directly as you were targeting rayn and you were nitpicky like some of the posts I did show yet you were denying this? What are you smoking shrooms again? I stated a scum read and elaborated on it yeh Do something else ls this is boring and I'm disappointed | ||
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On May 11 2017 22:35 Grackaroni wrote: You might be scum. I feel like you're one of the only one's that's actually putting time in thread to try to read me though, so even if you may be scum you're still coming off as townier than some other people. Wut. So basically you are just hedging? | ||
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On May 11 2017 23:25 darthfoley wrote: Earlier you said you would only consider TW/rayn and no one else. What's changed to open your mind to others, and who are they? The rest of the game my friend. | ||
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On May 11 2017 18:46 Holyflare wrote: Df keeps getting mentioned but nobody says any reasons why. I don't like it. Damdred why did you say you didn't like df but then went oit of your way to post a post you did like? Which is basically 20% of his filter anyway. It seems weird to me like you're trying to prove you have similar reads to me. Damdred relevance ^ | ||
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On May 11 2017 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare you have to understand that inconsistencies do not make people mafia. In fact it is more likely that a townie is inconsistent than that mafia is (this is obviously a case specific thing but especially on D1 and not much to work with it's way more likely that mafia tries to keep their story straight). ##unvote ##vote darthfoley I am not sure if i can explain this more properly than i have before but i will try. The thing is Grackaroni answered me regarding my concerns about him. Could he do that as mafia? Would he do that as mafia? Sure he could, most likely would. That doesn't however make him mafia. In fact it is more likely it makes him town because his train of thought follows what he says in his posts there. Now i wouldn't probably even think df is scum if he didn't make the case in a way that he did. Being wrong or making a wrong conclusion of the above is not necessarily scummy. The point here is what darthfoley does is that he doesn't even evaluate the scumminess of the original act. He just contrasts it to meta and expects the "meta" to strenthen his argument even though he doesn't even have an argument in the first place. In a same way i could say for example the following: - "Holyflare is scum because he asked why Grack is voting for Palmar and he never asks that as town." Now who the fuck cares if Holyflare has done it as town before or not when the starting point of the argument is completely ridiculous (aka a thing that is not scummy the slightest)??? What darthfoley did there is he took some random argument, has no conclusion about the argument itself and then just painted it scummy "because Grackaroni doesn't do that as town". Furthermore, with a 100% certainty darthfoley has never ever seen me play with Grackaroni before so there should be no expectations on how Grackaroni should react to something i post as either alignment (there is where even the whole meta bullshit falls apart). So there is that, now i am off to work. I don't agree with this premise by the way. I don't think df's post is even a case it's just an off the cuff remark about how grack isn't doing something he is renowned for and that's suspicious. Nothing more, nothing less. | ||
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I disliked DF so far, Vivax has been awkward in some of his postings so far but I am not sure that it makes him scum currently. On May 11 2017 06:43 Damdred wrote: I do like this post from DF, HF. He was also the first one to call out my post as summy I believe (?). But I am a little biased towards him currently eh... On May 12 2017 05:10 Damdred wrote: ##vote darthfoley dislike df buddy me and say he likes df post vote df did he vote df after rayn posted? | ||
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I don't like any of this case other than the pointless afk thing and not responding which has a bit of merit. | ||
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On May 12 2017 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well done, seems like i don't have to do anything since you're all so good at this game. On May 12 2017 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##unvote ##vote vivax oh fuck off kill this guy | ||
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you can't berate people WHILE UNVOTING THE PERSON YOU WANT TO LYNCH AND SACRIFICING YOUR WAGON | ||
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there is one alignment that wants to spread mass confusion and you all know what that is, there is no town reason to unvote your MAIN SCUM LYNCH that you have been voting and yelling about the majority of the game when it's a tie | ||
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On May 12 2017 06:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: fuck you. you literally came here 10mins before the deadline and voted for some random fucking guy with zero reasoning and then you blame me you idiot. really, fuck fucking you. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ but does he call me mafia thooooo? nah cos that's too obvious | ||
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Couple of reasons I see: A) he comes up with a df looked towny argument The above will make him mafia because he completely berates us post flip about being so good at this game which means he can't possibly think this. B) df is mafia and he was bussing but had a chance to save him I still like df sooo not so much living in this world C) a top town player thought he found mafia and when a counter wagon with "no reasons at all!" forms he abandons ship and doesn't think it's suspicious at all post flip but berates the player who joined it instead of being suspicious This would never in a million million years happen. D) he's mafia trying to spread maximum confusion Yes. Conclusion? 1000000% mafia | ||
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On May 12 2017 11:16 sicklucker wrote: espeically fuba is weird. he was in the thread. admitted his vote on me made no sense. then refused to vote anyone else? Feels like scum thats ok with a town getting lynched( dandred) and does not want to piss anyone else off with a vote on them That too ^ | ||
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On May 12 2017 19:39 Vivax wrote: From my current point of view this post is awful cause SL is my only top town read atm Was he your top town read after doing nothing d1 too? | ||
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On May 12 2017 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##unvote ##vote vivax I changed my vote because the people who were voting with me were not around and some people who were voting for Damdred were expressing concerns about Vivax. I didn't think there was a chance darthfoley gets lynched, i thought there is a chance people switch to Vivax. You thought people were going to swap 4 votes onto vivax in 30 seconds over getting 1 vote on your main scum wagon that you were yelling about all day? | ||
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Then, if you thought df might be town, why did you berate us/me post lynch saying we're dumb for not voting with you on df and rage quit when your very own mindset is that df might be town and the same result would happen. You think the better plan was to switch to vivax, who has not been talked about, instead of Damdred, who has not been talked about (arguable i did have some semblance of a reason to vote) but then berate us for moving to damdred because he wasn't talked about? Naahhhhh | ||
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On May 12 2017 20:04 Vivax wrote: But townies look like they care. Fuba is pretty much the most half assed person in the game and all I keep seeing is active players going at each others throats cause guess what, when you produce something you induce something. Fuba basically produces nothing and cruises by and you can't even call him mafia off a particular something cause he's just there saying hello from time to time, leaning over the counter and asking who's for dinner today in a boring undertone So you're saying you can't call him mafia for him not voting off sl when his scum read for sl disappeared? Or that he was around for the lynch and had no input in the wagons? You say there's no reason at all other than cruising? | ||
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On May 12 2017 04:12 fuba wrote: Not sure who I want to vote for now. I'll assume what sl said is true based on the fact that no one contested what he said... I thought it was strange he kept his vote on grack while trying to get everyone to vote for HF or LS, but looks like he never dropped his grack scumread, so that's probably ok. | ||
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On May 12 2017 21:43 Holyflare wrote: I think you should look elsewhere PB. I direct you to take a stance on fuba/rayn/anyone else. I wanna hear your fresh thoughts. | ||
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On May 12 2017 22:37 Palmar wrote: hf. is rayn now confirmed town? You'd wanna read the thread first. | ||
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You too, wtf? | ||
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On May 12 2017 22:57 Palmar wrote: Nono It's much easier for you to just tell me. Do you think rayn is supertown? or do you think he's mafia? All I'm asking for is a single piece of information you can readily provide, and you probably should provide. How about those things I posted in the thread that you should read. + Show Spoiler + it's mafia | ||
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On May 10 2017 16:49 Holyflare wrote: Too many shit reads and then nothing to back up fuba read when asked. Way too wishy washy. Also super buddying palmar. Oh shit tho | ||
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Anyway, rayn maf, ez life. | ||
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On May 12 2017 15:31 Holyflare wrote: There's the whole lead up to lynch and day cycle where rayn is stubborn, "let's lynch df!" repeatedly and then there's the damdred counter wagon appearing. Does he double down on his top obvious scum read? No. He bails when the votes get close. Couple of reasons I see: A) he comes up with a df looked towny argument The above will make him mafia because he completely berates us post flip about being so good at this game which means he can't possibly think this. B) df is mafia and he was bussing but had a chance to save him I still like df sooo not so much living in this world C) a top town player thought he found mafia and when a counter wagon with "no reasons at all!" forms he abandons ship and doesn't think it's suspicious at all post flip but berates the player who joined it instead of being suspicious This would never in a million million years happen. D) he's mafia trying to spread maximum confusion Yes. Conclusion? 1000000% mafia | ||
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On May 13 2017 00:09 Palmar wrote: Am I wrong to interpret that df would have been lynched if rayn had simply stayed on df instead of switching to vivax? It would have been a tie but impossible to tell who would get lynched in that situation from a player's perspective, I really thought it was df. Ergo rayn jumped off his own mafia wagon for no reason. Then he says we're dumb for not following him post flip. Then he returns and says he thought df was town. So we're dumb for not following him onto town df. Aka rayn is inconsistent and tilted. Aka mafia. Aka lynch all rayns | ||
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On May 13 2017 00:18 Palmar wrote: Actually I'm gonna back off a bit on what I just wrote. Turns out when rayn left the df wagon it was 5 people on damdred and 3 on df. Grack's vote for df came literally at last second. rayn did indeed NOT save df because even if he'd stayed it was 5-3 and would've gone down to 4-4 with damdred getting there first with the Grack switch. so I'm gonna relax a bit about that rayn vote. This doesn't matter at all because now you're saying that rayn thought he could lynch 0 vote vivax over his scum read df. Vivax, who had not been talked about at all. What does he berate people for after the lynch? Not lynching df (who he now says was a town read!!). What else does he berate us for? Lynching damdred after not talking about it! Who did he want to lynch after? Vivax after not talking about it! Ok | ||
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Fuba is very likely apathetic mafia. He voted for sl and didn't vote anywhere else despite absolving sl of being mafia. He was around at deadline and didn't care which is bad when in my world the other wagon is likely town aka mafia didn't give a shit about what was happening. | ||
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But then he voted df later so I lynched him. | ||
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I do appreciate the effort, however misguided it is. | ||
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According to my theory that "we prob catched 1-2 scum, and scum is now trying to spread the votes so it's not obvious who it is and they can control the lynch at any moment" If that's your theory why do you begin looking for mafia in the people on the wagon? Also you can press the filter button under a person's post and see alll their posts. | ||
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On May 13 2017 02:13 Prison Break wrote: That was my theory earlier on, when everyone had 1-2 votes. Obviously as end of day nears, people want to push 1 townie for the mislynch, and in this case your last vote looked very bad Why was my vote bad though? You literally think darthfoley is town in your post. Something I was voting to save. I also lynched damdred for his inconsistency revolving around darthfoley. So why is my vote the most mafia and why is it a mafia vote when the other wagon is someone you think is town? Surely I could have just remained afk, no? | ||
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Read filter, lynch rayn, lynch fuba (probably fuba first because these plebs have made me second guess myself on rayn). Especially read rayn's arguments for df mafia, they bad. Relish in my greatness | ||
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Third mafia is probably someone i don't care about though so gl with that | ||
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Also you are the one that started the damdred wagon. You could have picked any single person. Can you point to what posts of damdred you saw that were scummy? | ||
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That doesn't make sense, you voted sl right at the start of the game and then when your scum read disappeared there were no other wagons at the time so you didn't even search out anything after that. You basically just afkd while two town wagons eventually fought it out. Is that correct? | ||
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On May 12 2017 04:12 fuba wrote: Not sure who I want to vote for now. I'll assume what sl said is true based on the fact that no one contested what he said... I thought it was strange he kept his vote on grack while trying to get everyone to vote for HF or LS, but looks like he never dropped his grack scumread, so that's probably ok. On May 12 2017 04:15 beentheredonethat wrote: D1: Vote Count 3 Vivax (0) - raynpelikoneet (0) - fuba (0) - Holyflare (1) - Palmar (0) - Grackaroni (2) - Palmar, sicklucker (2) - Prison Break, fuba Vivax (0) - darthfoley (1) - raynpelikoneet, Tumblewood (0) - Damdred (1) - Grackaroni Skynx (2) - darthfoley, Vivax Not voting (4) - Damdred, Tumblewood, Skynx, Holyflare Currently, Grackaroni is set to be lynched in (at Thursday, May 11 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). Voting is mandatory. Report any errors in the vote count to the hosts via PM, kkthxbye Timeline doesn't match up unfortunately. You would have lynched the guy you didn't scum read anymore (or so much in your words) over anyone else at that point. | ||
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Preferably your town reads from a day 1 mindset when you were less sure of sl. | ||
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On May 14 2017 01:52 Holyflare wrote: Timeline doesn't match up unfortunately. You would have lynched the guy you didn't scum read anymore (or so much in your words) over anyone else at that point. Thing is you also stated that you "didn't want to lynch df or grack" But the way things were going both df and grack would have been lynched because of your sl (who you didn't really scum read) vote. So, no, it's not true your vote was as good as a no lynch. What's true is that you were perfectly clear letting your town reads (grack/df) die over your sl read. Heck, df WAS going to die and you still afkd on sl? | ||
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On May 12 2017 04:15 beentheredonethat wrote: D1: Vote Count 3 Vivax (0) - raynpelikoneet (0) - fuba (0) - Holyflare (1) - Palmar (0) - Grackaroni (2) - Palmar, sicklucker (2) - Prison Break, fuba Vivax (0) - darthfoley (1) - raynpelikoneet, Tumblewood (0) - Damdred (1) - Grackaroni Skynx (2) - darthfoley, Vivax Not voting (4) - Damdred, Tumblewood, Skynx, Holyflare Currently, Grackaroni is set to be lynched in (at Thursday, May 11 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). Voting is mandatory. Report any errors in the vote count to the hosts via PM, kkthxbye On May 12 2017 05:10 Damdred wrote: ##vote darthfoley Darthfoley one vote. At least a whole hour passes between you wanting to lynch someone else and the next df vote. How on earth does that equate to "it was grack and df in my mind" when sl and grack are the leading wagons. | ||
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We have you who sees grack/df, two of your town reads up for lynch, and you sit quietly on sl (who from your posts you don't scum read, even if you say you did) rather than saving them or doing ANYTHING despite being around. Then your timelines don't match up from what you're saying. Then you post nothing until today and it's just blindly stating that you couldn't do much. All of this scummy. So, to get to the bottom of this, why did you scum read sl even though you said you didn't and pb's case on sl evaporated the minute sl said his vote was a joke? | ||
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So, to get to the bottom of this, why did you scum read sl even though you said you didn't and pb's case on sl evaporated the minute sl said his vote was a joke? Just answer this instead. | ||
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Maybe you should read the game first | ||
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Nah man you're probably mafia | ||
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Your shitty agenda ends here I'm afraid. We're killing fuba. If you think you can convince people to vote grack, or even myself since you keep referring to me as mafia but letting me do whatever i want, then be my guest. You'll be next. | ||
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On May 13 2017 02:44 Prison Break wrote: I already explained this, it's in scums benefit to have 2 town wagons to protect themselves if they have 1-2 votes on them themselves So by killing Damdred instead of darthfoley, it sets up the fact people will likely want to lynch darthfoley the next day I'm getting flood control'd btw since my acc is new lol This is your theory. DF is dead now so why would your theory that "mafia wants 2 town wagons so the other gets lynched tomorrow" still hold true? | ||
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On May 14 2017 05:25 fuba wrote: For my town reads yesterday, I had PB town cuz I liked what he was saying. I'm having trouble doing filters and stuff on my phone, but I'm pretty sure I had LS as town for some retrospectively silly reason like him checking the vote thread earliest. I don't have the capacity to decipher early-game shouting matches, so I tentatively just kept rayn, grack, and HF as "not voting for cuz I don't want to mislynch an active D1." I'd also place the three of them in my "not voting for on D1" group along with vivax and palmar because I generally don't know how to read them, and most of them can likely write circles around me. From the top of my head I had few thoughts about skynx, damdred, or df. Iirc tw was in my town pile, but something moved him back to null - might have been palmar(?) Pointing out that he was kinda talking nonsense, but I'd have to go back and re-read to remember clearly. Still not a fan of him, but that might just be omgus. I think I'm forgetting someone. "few thoughts" on skynx, damdred, df? Like what? Also get to the sl bit too. | ||
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On May 14 2017 05:10 sicklucker wrote: he saved a town to kill a town? how is this an argument for anything what have you done this game other then killing df Yeh this was the biggest load of bull shit. I saved his top town read df by voting absolutely anyone else and I only returned with like 5 minutes to go. | ||
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On May 14 2017 02:08 fuba wrote: At work, but the timeline definitely matches up. It was grak and df in my mind when I posted that, and I didn't feel comfortable voting them. And I never completely stopped being suspicious of sl. It was more that sl was apparently not happening, so I was gonna look elsewhere. But I didn't find anyone better. Hence the question asking if sl could be on the table. Townreads will come over lunch. And again, not much to say about sl. I thought what PB said was good, but no one contested the fact that sl would do the same thing as either alignment, so I went to look elsewhere. It was between grack and df, and at that time I didn't want either lynched. I had no alternative, so I stayed where I was. He could entirely be scum. Nothing said about him made him distinctly town I just don't understand. If what PB says doesn't apply anymore then WHY is sl still a scum lean and why ask if he's still on the table? Like there's no reason that you've given to be suspicious of him in the slightest. | ||
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On May 14 2017 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar, Vivax, Holyflare. Ok | ||
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But i don't care about wifom, I think fuba is a great case. Palmar's comments today are so full of absolute shit that i will not hesitate to lynch him either. He's been giving out way too many free reads with no thoughts behind them. And that blaming me for damdred is BEYOND a stretch. He's clearly setting me up for a lynch but not doing it. | ||
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On May 14 2017 02:27 Holyflare wrote: Again, no. The vote count is posted the just after the moment you posted about losing the scum read on sl. CROCK OF SHIT | ||
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On May 11 2017 16:52 beentheredonethat wrote: D1: Vote Count 1 Vivax (0) - raynpelikoneet (1) - Holyflare fuba (0) - Holyflare (1) - raynpelikoneet Palmar (1) - Grackaroni (2) - Palmar, sicklucker (2) - Prison Break, fuba Vivax (0) - Not voting (6) - Damdred, Tumblewood, Skynx, darthfoley, LightningStrike, Vivax Currently, Grackaroni is set to be lynched in (at Thursday, May 11 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). Voting is mandatory. Report any errors in the vote count to the hosts via PM, kkthxbye Df is not even fucking in this vote count. | ||
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On May 14 2017 08:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because LS is mafia. He jas been calling you and me scum all game and cant make up his mind. It doesnt bode well with him being town. He prolly has infuence which is scum qt. Yeh it really bugs me he constantly has a scum lean on me but agrees with everything i say. But fuba is still mafia. He has been caught out in about 4 lies now. | ||
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On May 14 2017 08:46 fuba wrote: Not only that, but I reference the future vote count before it even happens, in that quote you keep pulling out. Like, the situation doesn't make sense at all unless I legit think it's 2-grack, 2-df. Not as scum or town. Either way, if you're right, then I knew the vote count before it even happened. My post you keep quoting makes it clear that this isn't something I made up after the fact. Just answer. Why did you think sl was mafia if your only stated reason was the pb case that was dismissed? | ||
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I feel like I'm the only one playing with facts in this game. | ||
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rest of game: hf in mah scum teaaaammmmm! hf: why? rest of game: just cz lul, lynch him! | ||
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On May 14 2017 09:24 Holyflare wrote: Just answer. Why did you think sl was mafia if your only stated reason was the pb case that was dismissed? | ||
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there's far too many people blindly doing nothing and then posting a basic bitch read and leaving again at least you're engaging me in conversation and seem to genuinely believe what you're saying | ||
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identical game palmar calls me mafia 24/7 and vote switches me last second under the guise of bull shit and then i kill him from the grave he's mafia | ||
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On May 15 2017 02:57 Grackaroni wrote: I've been working on filtering people. You were calling me mafia for something you didn't even read????? i skimmed it yeh | ||
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raynpelikoneet (1) - Palmar fuba (3) - Tumblewood, sicklucker, Vivax Palmar (1) - raynpelikoneet Vivax (1) - Fuba Not voting (3) - Grackaroni, LightningStrike, Holyflare Currently, Fuba is set to be lynched in (at Sunday, May 14 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). Voting is mandatory. Report any errors in the vote count to the hosts via PM. this should be new vote count | ||
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On May 15 2017 03:24 Tumblewood wrote: Hf why are u not voting fuba when i looked back on what i've been saying and what he's been saying it seems like he really believes it and from what I remember of fuba normally he's kind of the do nothing kind of player sooooo unsure of that at the minute basically feels then there's the fact that people join his wagon and the counter wagon without saying anything or referencing my case or participating but then also the counter wagon is... me but nobody is really pushing ANYTHING away from either of us or even bothering to play so I'm feeling sketchy as fuck and want some shenanigans | ||
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all of these afk players: + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2017 06:08 beentheredonethat wrote: D1: Vote Count 4 // final Vivax (0) - raynpelikoneet (0) - fuba (0) - Holyflare (0) - Palmar (0) - Grackaroni (2) - Palmar, sicklucker (2) - Prison Break, fuba Vivax (1) - darthfoley (3) - Tumblewood (0) - Damdred (4) - Skynx (1) - Not voting (0) - Damdred is the lynch! palmar/sl/pb/fuba/vivax/rayn and today, I'm town and honestly I COULD potentially see a fuba town in this world and yet again there's a million players coasting alllll day throwing out random shit and afking again: + Show Spoiler + Holyflare (2) - Prison Break, Skynx raynpelikoneet (1) - Palmar fuba (3) - Tumblewood, sicklucker, Vivax Palmar (1) - raynpelikoneet Vivax (1) - Fuba Not voting (3) - Grackaroni, LightningStrike, Holyflare palmar/rayn/fuba/grack/ls that's two days where people did shit all to participate in the wagons, common names being palmar/rayn/fuba ^ when I look at today's actions I see palmar: misconstrue sl's joke posts as confirming him town and telling people to counter claim (not reading thread OR SL's filter), say to lynch grack (no reasoning), say to lynch hf (no reasoning), berate me for voting damdred??????? and then afk on rayn DESPITE that shit happening a million fucking hours ago have you ever seen palmar drop an opportunity to lynch me in any game ever? no, this is bull shit. rayn: rage, rage, rage, rage, I think his case on df was bad and forced, I think his call out that was inconsistent with his own actions was bad and forced, I think his continual afking is bad, I think his call outs on palmar are actually legit but that doesn't stop him actually being mafia with palmar + Show Spoiler + fuba: see entire day but with caveat of him seeing honest | ||
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but then there's the grack/skynx/ls people that are making this game 10x harder by doing basically the same thing but actually joining wagons and then afking again ls: Has basically called me scum all game but simultaneously says he agrees with the majority of things I do and say all game which is like what the fuck is he smoking. Then he just spams links to previous games and afks again. Not like the ls I know where he finds a mafia read, links a bunch of games to call them out and says they're mafia and commits to voting. He's way too background/passive grack: what even are you doing? skynx: afks for a cycle and returns blatantly not reading the game to place a vote on me saying the team is fuba/me/vivax which is the most farfetched thing I have ever seen in my life so basically mafia is ls/grack/skynx/palmar/rayn we're fucked man we can't outnumber 5 people | ||
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On May 15 2017 03:55 LightningStrike wrote: I honestly been thinking about who we should lynch today and I concluded that rayn could potentially be mafia for his EoD shit berating us for lynching Damdred over his own scumread yet doesn't vote his scumread EoD for really bad reasons. Plus his irrational anger reminds of Night of debauchery where Day 1 he was yelling at me for very terrible reasons while I tried to explain myself there. He might be trying to pull that shit again. His fitler from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=raynpelikoneet ##Vote: Raynpelikoneet this looks nothing like that game in the slightest, where's the rage? | ||
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On May 14 2017 05:10 sicklucker wrote: ##vote fuba | ||
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On May 15 2017 04:19 Tumblewood wrote: the trouble here is that the only active players are the ones that are probably scum. and also ls and those people would beeee...? | ||
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sorry, was it not clear? On May 15 2017 04:17 Holyflare wrote: why does everyone think palmar is town? | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:06 Vivax wrote: I reread him a bit now that I'm back home and he did good to remind me of his conversation with HF cause he sounded rather townie there. Good recall of the way he thought is a good town tell I just hope he's not faking it very well. I was a bit too stubborn at him, so I think I'll do skynx if I feel like that after a reread. this is exactly what i felt | ||
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On May 15 2017 03:41 Holyflare wrote: the fact is d1 mafia could easily coast like a motherfucking slut since df AND damdred were town so they had to do shit all to the votes to hide all of these afk players: + Show Spoiler + On May 12 2017 06:08 beentheredonethat wrote: D1: Vote Count 4 // final Vivax (0) - raynpelikoneet (0) - fuba (0) - Holyflare (0) - Palmar (0) - Grackaroni (2) - Palmar, sicklucker (2) - Prison Break, fuba Vivax (1) - darthfoley (3) - Tumblewood (0) - Damdred (4) - Skynx (1) - Not voting (0) - Damdred is the lynch! palmar/sl/pb/fuba/vivax/rayn and today, I'm town and honestly I COULD potentially see a fuba town in this world and yet again there's a million players coasting alllll day throwing out random shit and afking again: + Show Spoiler + Holyflare (2) - Prison Break, Skynx raynpelikoneet (1) - Palmar fuba (3) - Tumblewood, sicklucker, Vivax Palmar (1) - raynpelikoneet Vivax (1) - Fuba Not voting (3) - Grackaroni, LightningStrike, Holyflare palmar/rayn/fuba/grack/ls that's two days where people did shit all to participate in the wagons, common names being palmar/rayn/fuba ^ when I look at today's actions I see palmar: misconstrue sl's joke posts as confirming him town and telling people to counter claim (not reading thread OR SL's filter), say to lynch grack (no reasoning), say to lynch hf (no reasoning), berate me for voting damdred??????? and then afk on rayn DESPITE that shit happening a million fucking hours ago have you ever seen palmar drop an opportunity to lynch me in any game ever? no, this is bull shit. rayn: rage, rage, rage, rage, I think his case on df was bad and forced, I think his call out that was inconsistent with his own actions was bad and forced, I think his continual afking is bad, I think his call outs on palmar are actually legit but that doesn't stop him actually being mafia with palmar + Show Spoiler + fuba: see entire day but with caveat of him seeing honest On May 15 2017 03:45 Holyflare wrote: from a cursory look (and this is real fucking sketch logic) mafia have no incentive to participate in the main wagons if they're both town (guess what palmar has been doing all game? hard defending everyone and pushing no one) so that easily picks out a few people to at least narrow down a lynch but then there's the grack/skynx/ls people that are making this game 10x harder by doing basically the same thing but actually joining wagons and then afking again ls: Has basically called me scum all game but simultaneously says he agrees with the majority of things I do and say all game which is like what the fuck is he smoking. Then he just spams links to previous games and afks again. Not like the ls I know where he finds a mafia read, links a bunch of games to call them out and says they're mafia and commits to voting. He's way too background/passive grack: what even are you doing? skynx: afks for a cycle and returns blatantly not reading the game to place a vote on me saying the team is fuba/me/vivax which is the most farfetched thing I have ever seen in my life so basically mafia is ls/grack/skynx/palmar/rayn we're fucked man we can't outnumber 5 people | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:21 Grackaroni wrote: Which posts were the ones that you found townie? I went back and reread what he was saying and it didn't seem (despite questionable timing in filters) that he was lying because wtf would be the point? People's positioning towards df/you at the time could have been different in thread too. Then he went ahead and mentioned that he had no idea wtf he was doing and that his vote on sl wasn't even because he scum read sl it was because he was just lost and couldn't find a better vote and then my other qualm about him not voting to save df was answered when he said it was just a gut read and he was voting for his best target (which he did mention sl being on the table at deadline to be fair). so really he just seemed lost rather than apathetic and i know he gets lynched for that a lot as town, he seemed genuine to me | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:24 LightningStrike wrote: Well I got HF as a scumlean but i don't think HF could be scum with rayn tbh. how the flying fuck | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:28 LightningStrike wrote: I was reading scum earlier you looked better totally convinced you are town. Maybe null is better way to say it. So I'm not a scum lean, I'm null but there's no other read than that? Isn't the read from rayn based on what I was saying all last night? | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:31 Palmar wrote: well, he could be, but he's not going to be lynched right now. that's because people will see the light and vote you | ||
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Why not pick out LS who literally posted a link to rayn meta to prove that he does rage as mafia? | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:46 Skynx wrote: Shennanying is not the right play here imo. fuba has to go. no he doesn't wtf | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:51 Palmar wrote: ##unvote ##vote Holyflare this guy | ||
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If I get lynched then follow this plan: lynch Palmar, he has not played this entire game and his agenda is to lynch me right now and continue afking lynch probably ls for HAVING NO READS and giving fake meta lynch whoever joins my wagon | ||
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On May 15 2017 05:56 Palmar wrote: Like I have always given a shit. I've explained tons of reads. Please don't talk bullshit. I don't mind you saying I'm mafia, but saying I haven't given a shit is very much just not true. like you berating me for damdred while afking like saying sl confirmed town when he's said it's a joke like confirm towning a million people and explaining 0 scum reads that's not bull shit, that's this game | ||
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grack wants skynx kill grack hammers fuba??? | ||
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deadline appears everyone arrives and ignores day's work lynch town everybody runs away mafia | ||
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Over palmar who berates people for wasting votes and has let his town reads die 2 cycles in a row while he continues to not read the game and basically be a non entity while saying he's being good? | ||
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On May 15 2017 06:12 Palmar wrote: I'm out for tonight. tomorrow will be mostly doing detective work. There exists a chance I'm just wrong on HF and grack and the scumteam is made up of some lower impact people like sicklucker, lightningstrike etc. this was a bad lynch and everyone on it told you so. Grackaroni "I'm going to stay with this lynch" is basically just trolling mafia at this point in my opinion. I don't even know guys. He was here, he was being told by everyone it's a terrible idea. We had fuba in the thread lookign super town. Just nothing. Holyflare (2) - Prison Break, Palmar Beyond a joke | ||
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He even says grack is his biggest scum read and has voted him once on day 1 but then complains that we didn't lynch him today. All while saying it's shit fuba is dead. He even basically made a fucking town case on dead damdred basically? For what? Fake content? 0 conclusion to it, just thread filler, no reads on alive players from it. | ||
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On May 15 2017 19:16 Palmar wrote: fyi: I will NEVER read any game of mafia I play. I have never done so and I never will. Mate you didn't even read his filter properly. | ||
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Grack, Tumblewood. I will even put my palmar qualms behind me to lynch grack because grack spent the day asking me if I'd read his rayn vs grack fight instead of talking about fuba with me and then proceeded to ignore it till deadline. | ||
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On May 15 2017 20:15 Skynx wrote: Lets say im scum, how does that make sense for me to not vote fuba? I mean i was almost getting lynched. On May 15 2017 20:06 Skynx wrote: My updated team: Grack, TW, HF Off chance of sl being in there instead lf Grack/TW Ummmmmmmmm hi | ||
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Tw and rayn were much, much bigger reads at the time because i thought tw was calling me mafia but never actually doing it. Turns out he was calling me null and flipped his earlier read so i misread it. Rayn was misrepresenting central and wanted to lynch df who i really quite liked. | ||
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On May 11 2017 18:17 Holyflare wrote: I didn't say grack was mafia yet which is evident from my post that contains 0 semblance of me saying Grackaroni is mafia let's lynch him. Why do you keep saying I think he's mafia? Because I liked that darthfoley found something good? It's a good point, it weighs in favour of grack being mafia but it doesn't make him mafia. I think between that post and him saying grack was running away from palmar it was an intuitive observation and seemed pretty natural for him to say. None of those things are what you're saying I'm saying. Literally right here. | ||
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Which is overwhelmingly my town meta of seeing something more egregious and voting the fuck out of it Unless your argument is that I'm shit at mafia | ||
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Then your argument is that I'm militant and should be unsure? Like..... Mmmm changing my mind on fuba or grack or rayn or you or vivax? Have you forgotten how i play this game? | ||
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I'm calling you mafia BECAUSE of the lynches and your play this game. I've stated this numerous times. You haven't even read what I've said and this confirms it. I have reevaluated at every single stage of this game. Rayn because of day 1. After dropping fuba, evaluating state of the game and stances on lynches because of major afk on wagons. Every single point. | ||
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On May 15 2017 23:08 Vivax wrote: I think he means this attitude. You could just reply, "aahh i dont know maybe I jumped the gun on that part, that part etc." but you avoid the introspection and jump over to accusation like here. Try again maybe it will work next time. That's not what he's saying. He's making a new point that I just go from one townie case to the next and have no thought about the game other than angry must lynch next guy. Which is not true. I dropped my rayn thing because i looked hard at what I was saying and reevaluated that maybe I did go too hard on it and I'd give rayn time to not shut down anymore. And maybe his rage wasn't fake at deadline. I've looked over it countless times. Same with fuba, same with palmar (who was initially a town read!). | ||
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On May 15 2017 23:09 Vivax wrote: I don't even know why you don't ever work from the assumption that he could simply be town for example when cooking up the answer. His mind control trick where I am on a far away with a green checked Palmar is working pretty well for me. Because i pay attention to the game and see him afk all day posting nonsense to return at deadline and try to lynch me after being literally one of two people actually playing the game. Just like you and him in haunted mansion 3 All over again. | ||
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On May 15 2017 23:13 Vivax wrote: But you are always playing the game also as mafia you easily rack up the largest filter and overshadow every other person that only plays it in chill mode. Yes take what i said totally out of context and apply a new situation. Here is the relevant part. Palmar even admitted i wasn't his main scum read. He sees opportunity to vote me off and does it over super confirmed mafia grack. But now he's fooling you with being all friendly pretend I'm confirmed town bs and cherry picking posts. | ||
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2 cycles, 0 cases, 0 pushes and no sheeping Berating people while doing nothing Mafia palmar | ||
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On May 16 2017 00:32 Prison Break wrote: ## vote sicklurker Lol this guy is basically confirmed town just because he doesn't even know how night works | ||
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now i have to probably deal with palmar being a petulant tit | ||
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why did you claim???? | ||
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On May 16 2017 06:54 Tumblewood wrote: hold the fuck up there is no cop I'm parity cop. n1 checked pb, n2 checked palmar. they're different alignment so basically skynx is mafia with palmar and trying to bait out the blues before he dies lol k now we just lynch you and get 2 free mafia then? | ||
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it's 2 mafia if he's mafia and 1 if he's town but anyway i'll take that trade | ||
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On May 16 2017 05:36 Skynx wrote: Now I can't even die tomorrow night, so another check is guaranteed. I might actually pick up this game. Just this one about how he can't die and he'll get a check. Seems weird he doesn't mention about there being a roleblocker in his world? | ||
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But nop. Grack basically hammered fuba instead of switching to palmar or skynx basically ignoring all reasoning which was sketch as fuck. Ditto with tw. He's probably partnered. | ||
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It changes the question because pb isn't saying sl looks townier. But whatever floats your boat. Palmar not even trying to figure me out at this point. Waiting to shit fight with me tomorrow i presume. | ||
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If he wants to vote at night with no voting mechanic then you better believe he will do it. What a hunk. | ||
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There's no way he typed "this is my towniest game" with a straight face and called himself a terrible check. | ||
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Hedging or mafia? Sheeps me all game, hasn't called me out for anything. Honestly i thought he was the cop d2 for sheeping me on fuba. Now it's just mafia-y. | ||
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Mafia rb me, skynx dies and you know I'm legit. Mafia leave me alive and kill someone else? No cc! Cc then ki other person who cares. Prime time to claim baby, get rekt. | ||
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On May 10 2017 21:00 Holyflare wrote: But I'm town so this is demonstrably false :D I mean all you're doing is saying that I'm looking at multiple facets to read you an alignment, which only one alignment tends to do soooooo...... On May 18 2017 06:51 Holyflare wrote: I'm as green as the sky, my friends. On May 11 2017 06:59 Holyflare wrote: I have proof it's not a normal coloured banana at least. On May 11 2017 22:33 Holyflare wrote: I do what I want. You're all a part of my megalopolis. ^ I'm European https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Banana | ||
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sicklucker no worming your way out of this one | ||
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but i guess it's not that hard to fake vs what he's actually done this game in terms of pushing nothing | ||
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Grack Palmar (if alive another cycle after) LS (can really be anywhere above) Vivax Pb probably a good lynch order | ||
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On May 19 2017 05:16 Vivax wrote: I can't help but notice you've bumped Palmar down two notches I re-read his list post and it actually wasn't too bad but SL is because of everything he's done this cycle and he 100% should be the lynch, he's afkd but been here, he's said sketchy things and hedging on alignments so he fits in with the moment and he's refusing to interact properly with anything Failing that; Grack is because of his vote at the deadline and the lack of absolutely anything, if Grack is mafia then he effectively saved Palmar and Palmar is almost definitely mafia. Then you don't have to see if he dies or not because he's mafia. | ||
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n1: palmar n2: vivax | ||
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also so you see i'm town | ||
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On May 19 2017 06:42 sicklucker wrote: this is his next read list. im still not town SLIP | ||
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On May 19 2017 06:55 Grackaroni wrote: Tbf the person leading the wagon is confirmed town. also SLIP | ||
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But maybe the town case is pure wifom. I'm not so sure about that tbh. | ||
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On May 19 2017 06:29 sicklucker wrote: also palmar is probably not mafia since literaly everyone just voted him even tho me a town is defending him. from my pov this makes sense at least. Just sayin On May 19 2017 08:23 sicklucker wrote: ##Vote: Palmar Ok Killllllll Everything about sl today screams of hopping on whatever he can. He's town read me and sheeped me and every reason not to vote me but I'm a second viable wagon and he hops right on. Right after trying to dump on palmar. | ||
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For saying what I feel like is about to happen to me this cycle. | ||
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If we kill SL and he's town then 3vs2 and tomorrow is lylo with vivax or whatever dying. If he's mafia then that's basically gg. I don't think the final mafia can hide for more cycles, it's getting pretty tight for them. | ||
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On May 19 2017 17:33 Holyflare wrote: Ok Killllllll Everything about sl today screams of hopping on whatever he can. He's town read me and sheeped me and every reason not to vote me but I'm a second viable wagon and he hops right on. Right after trying to dump on palmar. This is already enough of a case for me to want to kill him though. | ||
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On May 19 2017 05:45 sicklucker wrote: it was a very bad claim tho it took you out of the mislynch pool if i was mafia. gotta wifmo babbie On May 19 2017 05:45 sicklucker wrote: er mis kill Also totally genuinely is a slip. | ||
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He said be careful of lynching palmar and then somehow was magically convinced in 2 hours. He said I've been town all game and I'm a medic dodge and we have a medic but then votes me for nothing. He is hard to convince about ls and grack? Cry me a river. Who is hard to convince about things that they haven't spent a single second of investment in all game? Mafia, that's who. | ||
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If you didn't cc what happens tonight? Who do they kill? Me. There you now have me flipping town, you being confirmed by ccing at last second end of the cycle and lots of information to work with. But no. You went full retard. | ||
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We had a chance to lynch Palmar 2 cycles ago. Two cycles. And guess what? We didn't. So now we don't lynch him and we lynch SL. | ||
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What need would there be when I set up the fuba lynch all day for us both to have a revelation (at the same time as vivax?) to suddenly want to get rid of each other? The answer is none. It's likely that we all saw a fuba inkling of town and bailed the fuck out and wanted to lynch someone that would progress the game forward. Vivax, the cop :D, palmar town and myself palmar. That's not a mafia play when you really think about it. | ||
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On May 20 2017 04:18 LightningStrike wrote: With that in mind I going to unvote until we have a confirmation of who we lynching today between Palmar and HF becuase I think the game will solve itself after lynching the scum of the two in my world. Still not mafia. Calling sicklucker mafia but don't want to lynch him though. Noted. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On July 02 2016 09:57 Tumblewood wrote: long time no see apparently I'm supposed to answer questions so I'll answer the one that goes "hey tumble who do you think is scum" I think there are only three players who would have gone for the legendary 5-day solo run given their position after N1: skynx, jean, and jealous. tt and damdred were in very poor position, and super made a move that is pretty bold for someone who loses as soon as they're lynched (that of course being the fakeclaim) though in theory I should not give him a free pass for that-- I'm in a shortcutty mood. tbh I'm talking out of my ass when I talk about skynx's meta because I hardly interacted with him in xxi, but under the "generic newbie" meta his push on art was pretty hard to pull off. also he's been bringing up the same point I did in this post (that it's probably someone in favorable enough position to pull it off) which is something scum in favorable position a la skynx would want to avoid bringing up because duh why would you give people a free reason to scumread you? skynx is probably town. jealous confuses me meta-wise so I'll ignore meta regarding him + Show Spoiler + you're welcome jealous jean is the one who makes the most sense in my mind. he's been swinging for the fences all game, which is something you kind of need to do when you see moosy/ec as your scum partners. highest priority when you see they're under fire is to get as much town cred as possible and jean did that. the path he took seems unlikely but I think he is the most plausible scum. All of these scum reads, none of them are his partners. Also learn to use paragraphs please. + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2016 01:23 Tumblewood wrote: at the end of my 6-page catching up spree I get a nice little summary. I don't think anyone outside of jealous / tt / damdred (/ art? probably not) is ever scum so I think the logical plan is to lynch them in about that order. in every respect damdred feels pretty alright but not exceptional this game. I generally skim what jealous says because he writes paragraphs about sentences, so tbh no strong opinion on him. tt is looking better after not conceding... I don't think that very many people have the will to try and force 4 mislynches in a row with no partners while being scumread with blue evidence, but as a matter of principle I don't ever want to judge anyone on whether or not they concede. tt feels much better than he did d1 though, so I'd prefer to lynch jealous today. good order is jealous -> tt -> damdred -> art though hopefully we don't get so far down the list. Again hard town reads all of the people that aren't these few. None of them are partners. + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2016 05:32 Tumblewood wrote: Likeliest scum Chez Tt Skynx Jean Super Damdred Everyone else 0% scum More scum reads, no team mates. I got bored reading the rest. Pretty much in the 3 games I've checked he doesn't like to bus his team mates. There was a weak push against one in one game but then he went full town read. TLDR his read list isn't conclusive of anything whatsoever and LS meta god should have seen this too. | ||
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On May 14 2017 08:40 Tumblewood wrote: ok i read rayn's cases and they seem fair. with rayn, hf, and palmar all alive after the NK at least one of them has to be scum, and rayn is town. so it's either palmar or hf and i don't know how to read either of them but it seems pretty obvious what to do if one of them flips town If rayn makes a post implicating two townies and he knows it fuels a shit fest between rayn/palmar/hf why wouldn't he make that post you keep quoting? It's non committal in any regard and isn't followed up at all. The only time he attacks either of us is in response to when rayn shows up. Aka trying to adapt to the thread. It also enables a double mislynch if we're both town. A possibility. Pretty much we lynch sl no matter what. | ||
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On May 20 2017 05:38 Grackaroni wrote: When I played scum with TW he hard bussed me and Rels. But I think it's more relevant whether he's hard town read his teammates early on before rather than whatever cherry picked game you are looking at now to argue your case. my point is that him saying that palmar/hf are doing something bad has no relevance to whether they are his team mates because sometimes he hard defends them and sometimes he busses | ||
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are you dumb? IF I KEEP CLAIMING MEDIC THEY THINK IM MEDIC AND KILL ME no more ? holyflare confirmed town holyflare many wins many kills much win | ||
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D1 calls me mafia, lynches his best friend damdred with me on the wagon. N1 calls me mafia despite voting with him but agrees with me that rayn is mafia-y despite calling me mafia. D2 makes a meta case that rayn is mafia because of rage but only has 1 meta link to XXX mafia and it looks nothing like this game. Then he just afks on that wagon despite there being other wagons and palmar voting rayn for modkill reasons. When asked who LS' scum reads other than rayn are he says he has none. On May 15 2017 05:05 LightningStrike wrote: this vote count looks nasty we need to consolidate onto people. And doesn't consolidate. Despite the fact he thinks rayn is the only mafia and he agrees with my case on rayn and he's voting rayn he still thinks I'm mafia but NOT with rayn, the guy he is voting for. On May 15 2017 05:24 LightningStrike wrote: Well I got HF as a scumlean but i don't think HF could be scum with rayn tbh. Furthermore, LS has been inconsistent on his reads. He says that palmar is mafia repeatedly but then says he'll lynch both palmar and holyflare despite earlier saying that if rayn is town palmar is mafia. He goes on to say that tw did not spew grack town because the case was shit but begins today saying grack is confirmed town because of spew. On May 20 2017 04:16 LightningStrike wrote: I think HF or Palmar are scum based on TW's list honestly so I willing to lynch one or the other and the fact Grack was spewed makes so my 3rd scum is between sicklucker and prison break. sicklucker hasn't have the same euthiaism as normally does as town after lynching a scum and was afk for the most part of the auto lynch of TW like he normally does when one of his scum buddies is getting lynched. PB I did like his content early I just more afraid that he could of just been trying to blend but his way of trying to lynch sicklucker over HF and Palmar might seem townie? On May 19 2017 01:50 LightningStrike wrote: I think this was the closest he got to a town case on Grack but it wasn't exactly a great town case which is why I don't remember him doing one: his points aren't really great so the fact he went to try to defend grack could mean grack is a potental partner for TW but there might be other people who could be TW's partner. LS has a problem of forgetting his own reads and then trying to blend by just copying other people's reads. Lynch him after me. | ||
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I don't know how to explain it other than what he said appealed to me because that's how I feel every game. There's no other explanation than that. If I lynched palmar today and he flipped mafia then I'd basically be confirmed town because of all the bs that you've been "gathering" from Tumblewood's filter. There's no interest for me to do this at all other than me trying to solve the game. | ||
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Maybe not ls/sl after sl wanting to lynch him today though. My ls case is rather compelling. | ||
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On May 20 2017 23:09 LightningStrike wrote: You can lynch me if you want but I thinking HF's refusal to lynch Palmar despite the fact we gave him the opportunity to do it and him sort of defending palmar is enough of as reason to lynch HF and if HF is scum we can move on to to sicklucker. How the hell can you think only one of us is mafia but the guy trying to solve the game is the one instead of the guy pandering to emotions? None of that makes the slightest bit of sense. If there's only one mafia between us then why do I spend my time trying to defend him when I just let him die and get confirmed town? | ||
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On May 21 2017 00:02 LightningStrike wrote: Had you looked where I said before that post that I thought pb was townie earlier? Yet you still keep him as a lynch option. | ||
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The fact I'm a unanimous wagon with nobody defending me whereas palmar had at least 2 people defending him (myself and sl) should be evidence enough that I'm not mafia. Where has palmar gone now I have the votes on me? Absolutely anywhere but here. Yet, you're encouraging more and more falsehoods my way to get me to be the majority wagon more. That's bad lightningstrike and you know it. | ||
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On May 21 2017 00:04 sicklucker wrote: im never bussing hf today if im his partner lol. He was never the lynch untill I said so You said this about you and palmar too. Don't pick and choose when it fits you. | ||
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On May 21 2017 00:03 Holyflare wrote: Why should palmar be my confirmed scum? I never trust anything that a mafia writes because they can write absolutely anything. I trust my intellect and my gut. Always. Why is he confirmed scum to me ls? Why didn't you use this argument on palmar towards me THE ENTIRE GAME UNTIL NOW? | ||
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On May 20 2017 05:26 Holyflare wrote: Just going through old tw mafia games atm + Show Spoiler + On July 02 2016 09:57 Tumblewood wrote: long time no see apparently I'm supposed to answer questions so I'll answer the one that goes "hey tumble who do you think is scum" I think there are only three players who would have gone for the legendary 5-day solo run given their position after N1: skynx, jean, and jealous. tt and damdred were in very poor position, and super made a move that is pretty bold for someone who loses as soon as they're lynched (that of course being the fakeclaim) though in theory I should not give him a free pass for that-- I'm in a shortcutty mood. tbh I'm talking out of my ass when I talk about skynx's meta because I hardly interacted with him in xxi, but under the "generic newbie" meta his push on art was pretty hard to pull off. also he's been bringing up the same point I did in this post (that it's probably someone in favorable enough position to pull it off) which is something scum in favorable position a la skynx would want to avoid bringing up because duh why would you give people a free reason to scumread you? skynx is probably town. jealous confuses me meta-wise so I'll ignore meta regarding him + Show Spoiler + you're welcome jealous jean is the one who makes the most sense in my mind. he's been swinging for the fences all game, which is something you kind of need to do when you see moosy/ec as your scum partners. highest priority when you see they're under fire is to get as much town cred as possible and jean did that. the path he took seems unlikely but I think he is the most plausible scum. All of these scum reads, none of them are his partners. Also learn to use paragraphs please. + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2016 01:23 Tumblewood wrote: at the end of my 6-page catching up spree I get a nice little summary. I don't think anyone outside of jealous / tt / damdred (/ art? probably not) is ever scum so I think the logical plan is to lynch them in about that order. in every respect damdred feels pretty alright but not exceptional this game. I generally skim what jealous says because he writes paragraphs about sentences, so tbh no strong opinion on him. tt is looking better after not conceding... I don't think that very many people have the will to try and force 4 mislynches in a row with no partners while being scumread with blue evidence, but as a matter of principle I don't ever want to judge anyone on whether or not they concede. tt feels much better than he did d1 though, so I'd prefer to lynch jealous today. good order is jealous -> tt -> damdred -> art though hopefully we don't get so far down the list. Again hard town reads all of the people that aren't these few. None of them are partners. + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2016 05:32 Tumblewood wrote: Likeliest scum Chez Tt Skynx Jean Super Damdred Everyone else 0% scum More scum reads, no team mates. I got bored reading the rest. Pretty much in the 3 games I've checked he doesn't like to bus his team mates. There was a weak push against one in one game but then he went full town read. TLDR his read list isn't conclusive of anything whatsoever and LS meta god should have seen this too. On May 20 2017 05:32 Holyflare wrote: I've also actually read the context of that hf/palmar nk comment and it stems from this and rayn's post : If rayn makes a post implicating two townies and he knows it fuels a shit fest between rayn/palmar/hf why wouldn't he make that post you keep quoting? It's non committal in any regard and isn't followed up at all. The only time he attacks either of us is in response to when rayn shows up. Aka trying to adapt to the thread. It also enables a double mislynch if we're both town. A possibility. Pretty much we lynch sl no matter what. On May 20 2017 05:56 Holyflare wrote: my point is that him saying that palmar/hf are doing something bad has no relevance to whether they are his team mates because sometimes he hard defends them and sometimes he busses Here are some damning posts to destroy your theory that myself and palmar has to be mafia together. Also I'm glad you outline that you have no game based reasons to town read palmar but you're happy to vote me. | ||
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On May 21 2017 00:10 LightningStrike wrote: He could easily changed it I think either you or Palmar could coach him on it. So you think I'd coach a player to change their meta to give away our whole mafia team??? I don't coach anybody in mafia chat. | ||
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I'm sorry Holyflare that I lynched you despite being the only one making any semblance of cases this entire game. I will bow to your intellectual might and lynch LightningStrike now that you've flipped town. I will probably lynch palmar afterwards. | ||
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On May 21 2017 00:35 sicklucker wrote: no i said i could very well be with palmar it even makes sense. I just can pretty much only be with palar. so im keeping with one story your just not following You're right. | ||
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On May 21 2017 01:05 Holyflare wrote: You don't have to justify your bad lynches to me. My flip is enough. | ||
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On May 21 2017 00:37 sicklucker wrote: ill vote ls if you get the numbers. adios On May 21 2017 03:26 Grackaroni wrote: TBH I think HF's case on LS is the best case that's been made this game. On May 21 2017 03:48 Prison Break wrote: Who's willing to lynch LS? I think he's scum regardless of HF's flip tbh If HF is scum I can see him bussing here because if HF dies, it makes LS look better If HF is town then everyone voting him (and palmar before) instead of LS/SL is something to be concerned about On May 21 2017 01:12 Palmar wrote: Like every fiber of my being wants to sheep him on LS time to move guys, that's how you know I'm town | ||
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don't listen to vivax and straight lynch palmar because vivax thinks we're both mafia and is dumb | ||
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On May 20 2017 19:47 Holyflare wrote: I think you probably lynch ls first tbh. The more I think about his play the worse it looks. D1 calls me mafia, lynches his best friend damdred with me on the wagon. N1 calls me mafia despite voting with him but agrees with me that rayn is mafia-y despite calling me mafia. D2 makes a meta case that rayn is mafia because of rage but only has 1 meta link to XXX mafia and it looks nothing like this game. Then he just afks on that wagon despite there being other wagons and palmar voting rayn for modkill reasons. When asked who LS' scum reads other than rayn are he says he has none. And doesn't consolidate. Despite the fact he thinks rayn is the only mafia and he agrees with my case on rayn and he's voting rayn he still thinks I'm mafia but NOT with rayn, the guy he is voting for. Furthermore, LS has been inconsistent on his reads. He says that palmar is mafia repeatedly but then says he'll lynch both palmar and holyflare despite earlier saying that if rayn is town palmar is mafia. He goes on to say that tw did not spew grack town because the case was shit but begins today saying grack is confirmed town because of spew. LS has a problem of forgetting his own reads and then trying to blend by just copying other people's reads. Lynch him after me. remember this tomoz plz gg | ||
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On May 27 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote: HF did you actually coached TW to change his scum meta regarding where he places his teammates? of course not, why would I waste my time coaching people? | ||
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Never, ever, ever, ever use a dead mafia's filter to determine the alignment of a player. That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. The case about Grack being town because of TW making a town case on him was legit, anything else was just retarded. | ||
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On May 27 2017 06:40 sicklucker wrote: You played good standard lawyer talk. but why did you kill yourself and not vote palmar? :D because if palmar dies and flips green you would lynch me straight away? I always want to live | ||
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On May 27 2017 06:41 Rels wrote: End Game Grackaroni was lynched, he was VT! LightningStrike has been endgamed, he was VT! Prison Break, the Mafia Goon, survived. MAFIA VICTORY Obs QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/4ZSFe4HUEDa Scum QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/ge8eeKLnXAL why did you ruin it | ||
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that would have 100% lost us the game | ||
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just fucking save the confirmed townies???? | ||
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I didn't like this setup one bit tbh. I think it's the semi open nature of it. No counter play to being checked and those roles also know the setup. The problem is you have no other setup with a cop or a medic in like other semi open games so you can't fake claim and look like you're in another setup. Even closed I wouldn't mind this setup either. But oh well what are you gonna do. I still stand by this. I don't think it was a very balanced setup, even with the victory. | ||
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On May 27 2017 07:17 Palmar wrote: well just like in any other "follow the cop" setup (like i'm a cop you idiot) if you want to counter claims you go to a claim war and win it. It's hard to have the confidence to do it but still. yeh but in this game since there's no other setup with a cop or a medic in it you have to claim the same role or the other one in the game and just try for a trade boring at least with another setup in the list with the same role in it you can fake you're the other role and make it semi-believable I think I just hate semi-open setups where some people in town know what's going on | ||
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