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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 20 2016 23:41 GMT
#1001
I've iso 9 people in like 30 minutes. I've never done that as mafia.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 20 2016 23:41 GMT
#1002
I don't read as mafia
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 20 2016 23:41 GMT
#1003
I try to argue in qt and control it because I want to be the one sniping pr
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 20 2016 23:42 GMT
#1004
/self meta ... but yeah defend holyflare and I'll unvote if you do a good job. I want to build a town circle d1 and d2
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 20 2016 23:47 GMT
#1005
My last mafia game was witchcraft run by blazing hand so compare my play to there
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 20 2016 23:47 GMT
#1006
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 20 2016 23:48 GMT
#1007
I'm gonna spend time with my gf I'll be back on around 2 hours from now so I expect to see that hf defense by then kurumi
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 20 2016 23:49 GMT
#1008
Jesus christ BM


ALRIGHT WHOS AROUND AND WANTS A FACEFUL OF WAVE
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
October 20 2016 23:53 GMT
#1009
On October 21 2016 08:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Jesus christ BM


ALRIGHT WHOS AROUND AND WANTS A FACEFUL OF WAVE


That's how he rolls. I'm around.

Anyway BM, look at my filter. People wanted HF dead based on him not posting, they started by trying to coordinate kills, only after me and some other people bombing that plan (HF included) they started thinking about lynching him. Look at the votes he has now.
Yeah. That's you. Only you. People wanted to coordinate powers and such onto HF and then talked about lynching him and nada - the thing died. Very suspicious and the reasoning on that was very shaky itself. Then, HF has done something contrary to the thread - he did not clutter it, he did not overreact, he calmly did his thing. I am not going to peg him totes town for this, but I am not lynching him as of now.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 20 2016 23:58 GMT
#1010
can someone explain scum!koshi meta, or point me to which games I ought to be concerned with?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 20 2016 23:58 GMT
#1011
Anyway BM, look at my filter. People wanted HF dead based on him not posting, they started by trying to coordinate kills, only after me and some other people bombing that plan (HF included) they started thinking about lynching him. Look at the votes he has now.

I mean I still want to coordinate kills, but I don't think I ever suggested HF as a target. Where did that happen exactly?

I vaguely remember something of the sort happening but maybe one or two people brought it up as a thought, I don't remember any push nor any coordination. Can you show me where this narrative comes from?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
October 21 2016 00:04 GMT
#1012
On October 21 2016 08:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
Anyway BM, look at my filter. People wanted HF dead based on him not posting, they started by trying to coordinate kills, only after me and some other people bombing that plan (HF included) they started thinking about lynching him. Look at the votes he has now.

I mean I still want to coordinate kills, but I don't think I ever suggested HF as a target. Where did that happen exactly?

I vaguely remember something of the sort happening but maybe one or two people brought it up as a thought, I don't remember any push nor any coordination. Can you show me where this narrative comes from?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/514644-dota-2-mafia?page=34#672
It starts here. iamperfection starts the thing, he then wants to lynch me, Dandel plays with the plan same with You and Acrofales, sicklucker claims(!) Bloodseeker, says it's fine, Tubesock says that he'll target the same person SL does, Lunatic says he doesn't trust HF, ptmc comes in with some bad reads and defense of Lunaticman...
Basically, the essence of D1 is there: lots of interactions, lots of defenses, trying to plan and argue.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 21 2016 00:18 GMT
#1013
On October 21 2016 09:04 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 08:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Anyway BM, look at my filter. People wanted HF dead based on him not posting, they started by trying to coordinate kills, only after me and some other people bombing that plan (HF included) they started thinking about lynching him. Look at the votes he has now.

I mean I still want to coordinate kills, but I don't think I ever suggested HF as a target. Where did that happen exactly?

I vaguely remember something of the sort happening but maybe one or two people brought it up as a thought, I don't remember any push nor any coordination. Can you show me where this narrative comes from?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/514644-dota-2-mafia?page=34#672
It starts here. iamperfection starts the thing, he then wants to lynch me, Dandel plays with the plan same with You and Acrofales, sicklucker claims(!) Bloodseeker, says it's fine, Tubesock says that he'll target the same person SL does, Lunatic says he doesn't trust HF, ptmc comes in with some bad reads and defense of Lunaticman...
Basically, the essence of D1 is there: lots of interactions, lots of defenses, trying to plan and argue.

lol
Plan?
It was a few people saying 'yeah maybe I'll lynch him or smack him once' and the 'plan' was all but forgotten after a single page.

Honestly the strangest part about all of that wasn't even people saying they'd randomly kill him, it was you defending him for basically no reason. I'm not really following your narrative at all, and imo the only one coming off looking bad in all this is you.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 21 2016 00:22 GMT
#1014
If you're referring to the plan to stack KP, I still think that needs to happen, and I will push for it as best I can.
I think the worry about a potential PGO/bus driver/whatever/etc is silly.

In fact, I'm going to propose three town!KP targets right now that I suggest everyone with KP stack on (that doesn't have another ability they plan on using this phase).

Lord Tolkien
sicklucker
Glowingbear.

Stack your KPs on one of those three. I don't see a point in KPing the straight up non-posters because they will be replaced.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 21 2016 00:28 GMT
#1015
Allright I feel a little bad I kinda wasted the first day of this game, but it wound up starting at a weird time for me so not much I could do. Should be able to sink some time in tonight and tomorrow though.

Not sure I want to say much about my role, not sure how important that info is just yet.

I did want to get my thoughts down about the setup, or my theory about the setup I guess since there really isn't much info in the OP and it's really anyone's guess.

It looks like Radient vs Dire doesn't translate to Town vs Mafia. I'd also bet that there are more than one non-town faction, mostly kus it makes the game more interesting to have a couple of small scum factions than one 5-6 person mafia team vs however many town.

Unfortunately I only have my experience from PyP to draw from, and while I'd bet that there are some broad similarities I don't want to taint my expectations too much by relating to that game. Having said that I think the general strategy of trying to stay organized and working together to determine what everyone is doing is pretty solid. What's going to be weird is that I'm not sure if mafia get standard kills as night (they probably do though) or if all deaths but the day lynch happen due to HP hitting 0.

So with all that in mind I'm going to downplay my usual strat of finding town first and then mafia from PoE and try something a little different. If I'm correct that there are multiple scum factions then mafia are harder to find due to them having their own scum hunting to do and so standard scum hunting gets a bit less reliable.

Bit of a ramble, but I felt like getting that down before getting into the game proper. Looks like I have quite a bit or reading ahead of me... not gunna promise that I get it done in one sitting but I'll make sure I get caught up tonight.

#promisesofthingstocome
I can take that responsibility.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 21 2016 00:30 GMT
#1016
On October 21 2016 09:28 Tictock wrote:
Allright I feel a little bad I kinda wasted the first day of this game, but it wound up starting at a weird time for me so not much I could do. Should be able to sink some time in tonight and tomorrow though.

Not sure I want to say much about my role, not sure how important that info is just yet.

I did want to get my thoughts down about the setup, or my theory about the setup I guess since there really isn't much info in the OP and it's really anyone's guess.

It looks like Radient vs Dire doesn't translate to Town vs Mafia. I'd also bet that there are more than one non-town faction, mostly kus it makes the game more interesting to have a couple of small scum factions than one 5-6 person mafia team vs however many town.

Unfortunately I only have my experience from PyP to draw from, and while I'd bet that there are some broad similarities I don't want to taint my expectations too much by relating to that game. Having said that I think the general strategy of trying to stay organized and working together to determine what everyone is doing is pretty solid. What's going to be weird is that I'm not sure if mafia get standard kills as night (they probably do though) or if all deaths but the day lynch happen due to HP hitting 0.

So with all that in mind I'm going to downplay my usual strat of finding town first and then mafia from PoE and try something a little different. If I'm correct that there are multiple scum factions then mafia are harder to find due to them having their own scum hunting to do and so standard scum hunting gets a bit less reliable.

Bit of a ramble, but I felt like getting that down before getting into the game proper. Looks like I have quite a bit or reading ahead of me... not gunna promise that I get it done in one sitting but I'll make sure I get caught up tonight.

#promisesofthingstocome

Great post.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
October 21 2016 00:37 GMT
#1017
On October 21 2016 09:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 09:28 Tictock wrote:
Allright I feel a little bad I kinda wasted the first day of this game, but it wound up starting at a weird time for me so not much I could do. Should be able to sink some time in tonight and tomorrow though.

Not sure I want to say much about my role, not sure how important that info is just yet.

I did want to get my thoughts down about the setup, or my theory about the setup I guess since there really isn't much info in the OP and it's really anyone's guess.

It looks like Radient vs Dire doesn't translate to Town vs Mafia. I'd also bet that there are more than one non-town faction, mostly kus it makes the game more interesting to have a couple of small scum factions than one 5-6 person mafia team vs however many town.

Unfortunately I only have my experience from PyP to draw from, and while I'd bet that there are some broad similarities I don't want to taint my expectations too much by relating to that game. Having said that I think the general strategy of trying to stay organized and working together to determine what everyone is doing is pretty solid. What's going to be weird is that I'm not sure if mafia get standard kills as night (they probably do though) or if all deaths but the day lynch happen due to HP hitting 0.

So with all that in mind I'm going to downplay my usual strat of finding town first and then mafia from PoE and try something a little different. If I'm correct that there are multiple scum factions then mafia are harder to find due to them having their own scum hunting to do and so standard scum hunting gets a bit less reliable.

Bit of a ramble, but I felt like getting that down before getting into the game proper. Looks like I have quite a bit or reading ahead of me... not gunna promise that I get it done in one sitting but I'll make sure I get caught up tonight.

#promisesofthingstocome

Great post.


Besides looking quite genuine, there's nothing else to it. As to Bus Driver/PGO, just trust me Wave.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
October 21 2016 00:37 GMT
#1018
Vote Count - Day 1


Kurumi (3): Kurumi, iamperfection, Lord Tolkien
Koshi (2): Lunaticman, beentheredonethat
ritoky (2): Holyflare, Koshi
WaveofShadow (1): ExO_, Bill Murray, ptmc
Dandel Ion (1): beentheredonethat, ExO_
ExO_ (1): Dandel Ion
Holyflare (1): Bill Murray
beentheredonethat (1): Dandel Ion, WaveofShadow
Skynx (0): Koshi, Acrofales
iamperfection (0): Acrofales

Not voted (13): Tictock, Rels, Vivax, Skynx, sicklucker, HamazuraXTakitsubo, Tubesock, Eversince, ritoky, Hopeless1der, WaveofShadow, GlowingBear, Acrofales

It looks like Kurumi is about to be owned.
Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00) and resolves one hour later, at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).


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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 21 2016 00:44 GMT
#1019
On October 20 2016 09:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
i'm comfortable omgus'ing ritoky atm.

Show nested quote +
On October 20 2016 08:39 iamperfection wrote:
any try hards here ?

What do you think do we need to coordinate like a professional dota team or should this be like a regular pub with everyone doing their own thing?

I'd be inclined towards advertising defensives only, but aside from that I dont think telling mafia where we're aiming is a good thing. We cant claim specific abilities so trying to coordinate is liable to leave us even more clueless. Just an all around bad time if we go down that road imo.


This might be the first post that give me distinct townfeels. Kinda joke fighting with Rit and I like his mindset in regards to iam's question.

Also a good time to point out that iam's posts up to this point give me the heebies, though I'm interested to see if the trend continues and he also gives me the geebies. More on that as it develops.
I can take that responsibility.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 21 2016 00:48 GMT
#1020
On October 21 2016 09:37 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2016 09:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 21 2016 09:28 Tictock wrote:
Allright I feel a little bad I kinda wasted the first day of this game, but it wound up starting at a weird time for me so not much I could do. Should be able to sink some time in tonight and tomorrow though.

Not sure I want to say much about my role, not sure how important that info is just yet.

I did want to get my thoughts down about the setup, or my theory about the setup I guess since there really isn't much info in the OP and it's really anyone's guess.

It looks like Radient vs Dire doesn't translate to Town vs Mafia. I'd also bet that there are more than one non-town faction, mostly kus it makes the game more interesting to have a couple of small scum factions than one 5-6 person mafia team vs however many town.

Unfortunately I only have my experience from PyP to draw from, and while I'd bet that there are some broad similarities I don't want to taint my expectations too much by relating to that game. Having said that I think the general strategy of trying to stay organized and working together to determine what everyone is doing is pretty solid. What's going to be weird is that I'm not sure if mafia get standard kills as night (they probably do though) or if all deaths but the day lynch happen due to HP hitting 0.

So with all that in mind I'm going to downplay my usual strat of finding town first and then mafia from PoE and try something a little different. If I'm correct that there are multiple scum factions then mafia are harder to find due to them having their own scum hunting to do and so standard scum hunting gets a bit less reliable.

Bit of a ramble, but I felt like getting that down before getting into the game proper. Looks like I have quite a bit or reading ahead of me... not gunna promise that I get it done in one sitting but I'll make sure I get caught up tonight.

#promisesofthingstocome

Great post.


Besides looking quite genuine, there's nothing else to it. As to Bus Driver/PGO, just trust me Wave.

I do trust you, but that's besides the point.
I'm not worried that these things exist, because I'm fairly certain they do.
I just don't think they'll as much of an impact as you think they will.

Getting everyone to contribute KP and organize to some degree holds people accountable and at phase change we'll be able to learn some things.
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