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Grackaroni
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On September 10 2016 09:28 Holyflare wrote: but please tell me how any of what I posted is wrong and then maybe we can reach an understanding of how you are mafia Sure thing. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On September 10 2016 09:20 Holyflare wrote: Grackaroni sin counter:
Grackaroni mafia counter: Very, very, very high. Here's the real list: The most important thing here is that primarily this is a lurker lynch. As I think you seem to acknowledge. Thus we have the better list: Holyflare hard pushes afk Ticktock. Holyflare hides behind very thin substance for push on afk Ticktock Grackaroni calls out Holyflare on suspicious push. This isn't about my shitty meta. Everyone makes posts like that including (Gasp!) town Ticktock: These are just things that you say when you agree with a post. For your games, those are just the two recent games that you've played excluding Palmar's because it was super themed and had no lynch. And again, I'm not hard defending him, my posts are about you. If I'm mafia here he's probably town with me wanting to get some credit from defending him. As mafia I would probably take the same approach with him that I took with Rels when he afked throughout most of day1 after posting a bit at the start. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On September 10 2016 09:36 Holyflare wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511964-onegu-is-the-best-host-mafia-part-2?user=Holyflare BY THE WAY GUYS if Grackaroni's meta raeds weren't already 1000% genuine bull shit let's enlighten you to this filter!" Here is Grackroni using something I said in this game to call my scummy: Now, how about people open this said filter from my town game that Grackaroni uses to portray me as mafia and let's peruse the VERY FIRST PAGE LOL: I am definitely the same in other games. Strike one Grackaroni! NOW, I found a nice tidbit in my other game too: this was from the Onegu game where I was town and pretty much have the exact same feelings as I do about Grackaroni in this game. My play is almost the same (maybe I should try this tactic as mafia some day  ) and somehow grack extrapolates that I'm mafia based on meta :D :D :D :D ok grack.These are incredibly different scenarios. The Mderg quote was you saying you would be open to lynching Mderg after somebody suggested lynching him. The Sicklucker quote was something that you didn't follow through and never pushed. That's completely different from hard pushing some lurker with 5 posts for an entire day. I have no idea what this TW thing is. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On September 10 2016 09:39 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + On August 12 2016 07:16 Holyflare wrote: Here is my perspective which is what I was trying to highlight and what admittedly GB thought was weird the entire day (because it was weird). I am town and now evidently GB is town and that definitely highlights irregularities from mafia's perspective of this whole claim thing. We have several candidates flagged for mafia at this point and I'll rank them from the most likely: 1. Sicklucker I got a notification that I was roleblocked last night (I don't know why we get notifications at all really but w/e) so I was JK'd at least or MAYBE mafia rb'd which is possibly what SL is alluding to here: Now, think in your own heads, how unlikely was it that I was fake claiming? You guys are entirely in the dark, you did what was right, follow my lead and look for clues and links, SL on the other hand has referenced and foreshadowed (most importantly) GB flipping miller about 1000x throughout the day, not just flipping town, FLIPPING MILLER. That's the most important point of it all, mafia KNOWS I'm town and therefore if I have a red check and they know GB is town he MUST be a miller. This is why I found SL's reaction the most definite mindset of a mafia player because he KNEW ALL ALONG IT WAS HAPPENING. Mafia chance: 100% hahahaha all things debunking this Again this is a false equivalence. This is from when SL came up with a role claim theory on you and you were convinced that he had slipped. It's not you seeing some meh posts and going ham on some lurker. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On September 10 2016 09:12 Holyflare wrote: are you actually being fucking serious? he has no content to post, he's struggling with his entrance (look at his town game entrance completely different and actually has content?!?!) and his only substantial post of the game is something he specifically says is boring and that he hasn't read: a) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that it's a fucking bs mindset b) he's not going to post content like that while explaining that he skimmed over content like that because he might be posting things people have already said. SO what we have here is that ticktock has LIED about not reading the posts and has actually skimmed and knows what they've said OR he's not read them and then he's posting useless shit as his only content of the game that he said was boring that he knows full well other people COULD have said <------- and if THAT is the case then he's literally posting just for the sake of posting which, again, is a mafia mindset. Who posts something like that after acknowledging that it already exists but not knowing their content? Mafia. Perhaps you should actually read his god damn filter from his town game instead of harping on about how it's bs and overplayed when it's literally night and day differences between substantial reads from his town game and simple "Yeah I like that post" bs in this game. It's hilarious that you've actually for some reason looked at two of my previous games and ignored absolutely every other game I've ever played and concluded that I never do these kind of pushes as town when vivax has literally told you 3-4 times that I am this aggressive as either alignment whenever I want to be. I have no idea what you're trying to make out of this but all I see is hogwash. Really this seems like a whole lot of effort to try to portray some minor thing as some huge scum slip. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On September 10 2016 09:40 Holyflare wrote: Simple facts are: TT posted no content TT's only posts wildly different from his town opening TT posted something that he couldn't/shouldn't have posted because of what he said TT has gone afk and done nothing But... he's not mafia? Grackaroni's take: TT's filter looks like a pretty standard lurker filter HF launches crusade with questionable reasons for why TT is scum. (referring to my 3 points in my longer post) | ||
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Grackaroni
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On September 10 2016 09:43 Holyflare wrote: I am on a righteous crusade to lynch Grack and this train has no brakes. TT/Grack may or may not be together and I can't decide based on unflipped associations but one of them is certainly mafia and it's increasingly looking like the guy hard defending an afk scummy poster. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qKl3596.png) Pic stolen shamelessly from Palmar. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On September 10 2016 10:19 Holyflare wrote: My assumption, and it's a very logical assumption to make, is that he actually read/skimmed the entire thread and saw nobody made this point yet and as mafia found a way to look like he was contributing by posting "new information" since mafia love to blend and talk about mechanics. Then all the other stuff I've posted about him too. Objection your honor! Speculation. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On September 10 2016 10:22 Holyflare wrote: I can and might be wrong on you and I'm willing to admit that as a possibility too but Ticktock will never not be the lynch for me because unless you can prove my logic wrong then I'm not moving from it. I will/should talk about other things too though. I actually think you're mafia though. I had reasons before and when I mentioned them you went into full try hard scum defense mode. Plus if I'm a total baddie and TT is scum then I'll still end up as the vigi. | ||
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On September 10 2016 10:35 Holyflare wrote: Even though damdred is voting with me and saying names that I would like to lynch and names that I town read in general reading his posts make me think he's mafia because they just seem too nicey nice and wanting to be everyone's friend and trying to fit in rather than forming a real opinion and pushing it. I read through it. Maybe. The 3 he's town reading are just the objectively towniest people last time I checked, so that's not a point in his favor. I don't remember Damdred doing too much in the Onegu game either though. | ||
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On September 10 2016 23:35 Damdred wrote: Bet tt shows up last hour to try to wifom every one into voting someone else just like in storm. Do not give in lynch tt But now he's going to out wifom you by not showing up at all. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On September 10 2016 23:51 Damdred wrote: Then he just gets lynched anyway But not if everyone thinks he would show up before the vote as scum. It's the perfect mind game! | ||
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Grackaroni
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Am I the lynch plan tomorrow if TT flips town, mafia, or both? | ||
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Grackaroni
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On September 11 2016 00:23 NeverUnlucky wrote: If he flips both, you're the lynch plan, yes. Calix should be the lynch today or tomorrow. No question here. lol not you silly. And by the both I mean to ask whether I should be the lynch regardless of what TT flips. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On September 11 2016 00:30 NeverUnlucky wrote: Yes, I know. What is your reads list like? I still haven't actually read a bunch of stuff so bear with me. Vivax is town for the rest of the game because he made this post after I wasn't contributing anything but pissing Calix off. There actually is a noticeably difference between my play this game and my normal scum game, so he actually did go through the effort to read through games to compare. Plus I was being discussed as a lynch possibility at the time. On September 10 2016 06:45 Vivax wrote: Going to be ballsy and call town on Grack btw. I dived his scum game a short while back and it's nothing like him. He pretends to be helpful there. Here he's openly defiant, jokes, and even posts pictures. HF is invited to fight me over this. Fuba has a pretty weak scum game and I don't think it looks like this. Thus he is town. Calix seems too abrasive to be scum and had a strong opening. If it turns out you have really good points that could change. You had a townie opening. I like Tumblewood because he's on the same wave length as me, and also he's putting himself at the risk of the wrath of Holyflare. If Holyflare is town I don't think scum TW would want to put himself in HF's cross hairs because TW's scum game can be pretty shaky. I think HF has a good chance of being scum as outlined earlier. The rest are null. Perhaps Palmar is a bit below null for how useless he has been while not yet attracting any votes. I'm also playing around with a bit of a crazy theory of HF and TT as a scum team. I don't know how plausible that is but I realized that if HF was on a scum team with TT that could have caused him to view TT's posts through a lens that makes them look scummier than they actually were. Better stuff will probably come around 3 hours from now. | ||
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