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On August 02 2016 06:02 Rels wrote:
mderg you're scum
##Vote mderg
what makes you think so?
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Skynx just threw a vote on BTDT right before leaving but didn't actually say why he chose him over mderg as far as I can see. Can anyone point out a post where he says this?
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On August 02 2016 06:03 mderg wrote:what makes you think so?
Several things.
First, your entire game is centered around RB, then scott. It's just so easy to talk about him right ? But this post is fucking bullshit:
On August 01 2016 02:53 mderg wrote:
I guess this replacement prevents the plynch discussion that I hoped would give us some information...
I don't believe this for one second. Your voting post is pretty well explained for a "trap":
On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.
##vote Race Bannon
And there WERE some reactions to RB spamming + replacement, and you just didn't seem interested in looking for them.
Second, this post is also bullshit:
On August 02 2016 04:32 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 04:20 -Celestial- wrote:
Also at present:
- silent has done sod all since confirming his feelings on Kelsier
- Rels is going to get himself replaced or modkilled because of total inactivity
Can we expect a replacement or a modkill for Rels if he doesn't turn up at all for the entire day? Now that you mention it, silent is someone I could get behind lynching today. Didn't like his opening and he didn't do anything since then.
"Now thazt you mention it" ? The only thing you've extensively talk about apart from RB / scott was how silent's posts were bad. Your scott read is also based party on that:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 31 2016 21:26 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2016 21:10 silentwarrior wrote:
Well, early posting helps makes other post. We are posting because of him now, aren't we? It helps discussion going, but I agree that now that early game is over he should start getting serious. Hopefully he will start writing constructive stuff from here on.
Kelsier on the other hand said outright that he could post but wouldn't because nothing "reasonable had been posted". But he dosen't post anything at all and says he will even wait. To me that seems a lot more suspicous than posting nonsense. Remember, we are here to lynch mafia not people we don't like. That makes my vote much better than Kelsier. Not to mention it puts pressure on him to not just "see us in a few days" but actually post during this time.
Also, I never said that I wouldn't vote for Race given reason(even said I had no problem with Kelsier voting for him). I didn't vote for Kelsier because he didn't post, I voted for him because he could post but said he wouldn't and instead wait to see what others posted. You have to agree that's kind of suspicous, right? I don't like your reasoning. What Kelsier did was so obvously suspicious that it doesn't really say much. It points much more towards lazy/annoyed than any alignment. On August 01 2016 17:25 mderg wrote:
Completely agree with the stuff about silentwarrior calling out Kelsier. Every proper townie should dislike what Kelsier did. But that doesn't make Kelsier scum, making such a big deal out of it doesn't feel right when you think about it a bit.
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Thoughts on scott: a bit superficial and I absolutely disagree with his thoughts on silent. Don't like him too much for now. On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:
scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated.
His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post. On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:
btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial.
Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody.
He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town".
Third, you repeated your scott reasonning several times like a machine, and it's full of words like "superficial" that don't mean anything but looks cool. Standard scum reads. All your reads are like that.
Fourth, I just don't like your tone. Scummy posts ahead:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.
##vote Race Bannon On August 01 2016 02:56 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 01:52 Skynx wrote:On August 01 2016 01:34 Grackaroni wrote:Ok, I'll be back on tonight. I'd like to see some opinions on this post: On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote:Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though. But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote:
This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted. So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us. On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game
##vote Race Bannon
See you all in a few days Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post. I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do. ##vote Kelsier SC I don't like this actually. Feels like he's just trying to find reason to sr someone. I mean you don't force some1 into contribute and half the thread was afk anyways. You can ask his opinions befroe he goes away try to spark some activity but voting because he doesnt contribute cuz cba is weak. Yeah, it's a lazy scumread On August 01 2016 06:00 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 05:38 Lunaticman wrote:On August 01 2016 05:09 KelsierSC wrote:
game starting again cool. Hi i'm town So are you having regrets about something? Your first posts really didn't put you in a good position becauset they were a super lame buss attempt on a "policy lynch" (however I don't think many would disagree on it), I would consider this was more of a towny mistake than anything but if I was town I wouldn't go back on what I said like that without an explination something like: "hey I messed that one up and thought he was super annoying". No intead you were like "Hi I'm town". It's like your just trying to hide what you previously stated. I would definatly not have a problem lynching you for your posting behaviour tbh. Why are you talking about a bus attempt? Do you know Race Bannon's alignment? On August 01 2016 06:45 mderg wrote:
Do something to change that
These are all posts that look like you're trying to hard to be useful. But aren't useful.
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Dear Grack/Silent: I'm not getting lynched, consider consolidating to someone who actually has a chance of getting lynched. Kthx
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I read and read and read mderg's filter and find him each time scummier.
Him calling out scott for being superficial is a joke. His scott read is the most shallow and non-evolving read ever.
On August 01 2016 17:25 mderg wrote:
Thoughts on scott: a bit superficial and I absolutely disagree with his thoughts on silent. Don't like him too much for now.
On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 21:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 17:40 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 12:57 Grackaroni wrote:On August 01 2016 11:36 -Celestial- wrote:Grackaroni - Has a lengthier filter than most but there's honestly not a lot in it. The stuff pre-Race ban is a bunch of nothing. I don't like all this "Race is probably town" based off the utter garbage Race was serving up. Also I feel like the whole "Mafia plays subdued" thing is honestly pretty leading. I don't think this is necessarily a safe assumption at all, but he seems quite happy to push town down that way of thinking. I like that he brings up silent's post but I don't like that he doesn't want to post his own thoughts before getting other people's. I also don't like that he disagrees with it but just dismisses it as 'reasoning a new town player would make' whilst simultaneously setting up to call anyone who calls silent scum, scum themselves. Then calling up people who were calling on silent, despite the fact that he's admitted that he disagrees with silent himself...he just doesn't find him particularly scummy for it. This is a kind of weird mentality...you agree that you don't like the thoughts in silent's post...but they're scummy for feeling that it might make silent scummy? I got split feelings on the three he calls most towny. So I guess I can't do much with this. However I have huge issues with this bit: Right now I'm kind of inclined to lynch Mderg just because I think the three people he has pushed so far (Silentwarrior, Lunatic, scott) have been the townier people in the thread, and he has pushed suspicion on two of them and tried to policy lynch the third. No. Mderg wanted to policy lynch Race, because he was screwing up the thread. Mderg hasn't commented AT ALL on scott himself because he's not been in thread since then. This is pretty deceptive stuff from Grack imo. I don't like it when people try to slip things like that under the radar. Scum lean. The defence on Lunatic is NAI because its exactly what I thought. Asking Kelsier to play is fine and complaining about him complaining is also fine but nothing special. Asks for a lynch target from Kelsier. NAI, anyone would want more info from Kelsier at this stage no matter their alignment or Kelsier's. I think that mafia tends to play more subdued is a pretty standard idea that most players would accept. I'm not saying Race Bannon could never be mafia but lynching the guy who goes out of his way to spam the thread and pisses everybody off in the process is definitely not a good place to start if you want to hit mafia. Silent made the first serious accusatory post of the game and put himself in the spotlight. I liked the post just because I think that Kelsier's non-contribution would look scummy to a newcomer, but the start of the game is the easiest time to "contribute". All I've gathered so far is that Kelsier seems annoyed from the state of the game and can't be assed to start playing. I don't really read Kelsier either way. Also I can disagree with a post's conclusions and still townread somebody for their post. Case in point, I don't really agree with your reads or any of the reasoning attached to them, but I'm still very thankful for something to comment on and will give a town read for it. It's magic! As for my choice not to post my thoughts before getting other people's. Are you saying that I'm afraid of putting forth my own thoughts before seeing other people's or something else? I don't think that will be too much of an issue. Actually I think the reason I've come up here in the first place is that I've actually put out some of the more distinctive things. My point here for Mderg is that he's pushed three slots that I feel are town slots. What kind of deception do you think I'm trying to slip under the radar here? Anyone can read his filter in 30 seconds and see whether he has posted about Race bannon or Scott. I didn't push lunatic, I was just hoping my post would start some discussion while I'm away. That makes it 2 "town slots" I've pushed. I really can't see what you like about either of them. I actually dislike scott's posts more than I did Race Bannon's (alignment wise). explAin dood Race Bannon simply posted gibberish which is obnoxious and annoying but not really alignment indicative. scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated. His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post.
On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 00:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 22:56 Skynx wrote:
Also Moosy how is KSC town is that a tone read? Yes. On August 01 2016 22:54 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 22:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 21:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 17:40 mderg wrote:On August 01 2016 12:57 Grackaroni wrote:On August 01 2016 11:36 -Celestial- wrote:Grackaroni - Has a lengthier filter than most but there's honestly not a lot in it. The stuff pre-Race ban is a bunch of nothing. I don't like all this "Race is probably town" based off the utter garbage Race was serving up. Also I feel like the whole "Mafia plays subdued" thing is honestly pretty leading. I don't think this is necessarily a safe assumption at all, but he seems quite happy to push town down that way of thinking. I like that he brings up silent's post but I don't like that he doesn't want to post his own thoughts before getting other people's. I also don't like that he disagrees with it but just dismisses it as 'reasoning a new town player would make' whilst simultaneously setting up to call anyone who calls silent scum, scum themselves. Then calling up people who were calling on silent, despite the fact that he's admitted that he disagrees with silent himself...he just doesn't find him particularly scummy for it. This is a kind of weird mentality...you agree that you don't like the thoughts in silent's post...but they're scummy for feeling that it might make silent scummy? I got split feelings on the three he calls most towny. So I guess I can't do much with this. However I have huge issues with this bit: Right now I'm kind of inclined to lynch Mderg just because I think the three people he has pushed so far (Silentwarrior, Lunatic, scott) have been the townier people in the thread, and he has pushed suspicion on two of them and tried to policy lynch the third. No. Mderg wanted to policy lynch Race, because he was screwing up the thread. Mderg hasn't commented AT ALL on scott himself because he's not been in thread since then. This is pretty deceptive stuff from Grack imo. I don't like it when people try to slip things like that under the radar. Scum lean. The defence on Lunatic is NAI because its exactly what I thought. Asking Kelsier to play is fine and complaining about him complaining is also fine but nothing special. Asks for a lynch target from Kelsier. NAI, anyone would want more info from Kelsier at this stage no matter their alignment or Kelsier's. I think that mafia tends to play more subdued is a pretty standard idea that most players would accept. I'm not saying Race Bannon could never be mafia but lynching the guy who goes out of his way to spam the thread and pisses everybody off in the process is definitely not a good place to start if you want to hit mafia. Silent made the first serious accusatory post of the game and put himself in the spotlight. I liked the post just because I think that Kelsier's non-contribution would look scummy to a newcomer, but the start of the game is the easiest time to "contribute". All I've gathered so far is that Kelsier seems annoyed from the state of the game and can't be assed to start playing. I don't really read Kelsier either way. Also I can disagree with a post's conclusions and still townread somebody for their post. Case in point, I don't really agree with your reads or any of the reasoning attached to them, but I'm still very thankful for something to comment on and will give a town read for it. It's magic! As for my choice not to post my thoughts before getting other people's. Are you saying that I'm afraid of putting forth my own thoughts before seeing other people's or something else? I don't think that will be too much of an issue. Actually I think the reason I've come up here in the first place is that I've actually put out some of the more distinctive things. My point here for Mderg is that he's pushed three slots that I feel are town slots. What kind of deception do you think I'm trying to slip under the radar here? Anyone can read his filter in 30 seconds and see whether he has posted about Race bannon or Scott. I didn't push lunatic, I was just hoping my post would start some discussion while I'm away. That makes it 2 "town slots" I've pushed. I really can't see what you like about either of them. I actually dislike scott's posts more than I did Race Bannon's (alignment wise). explAin dood Race Bannon simply posted gibberish which is obnoxious and annoying but not really alignment indicative. scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated. His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post. So do you think btdt's post was shit or good? it was bad So you're scumreading scott because he's scumreading btdt for making a shit post? The scumread itself is not my issue with scott. I'll try to explain it again. btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial. Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody. He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town". That's just way too superficial for me. There's no effort to really figure people out in there, just focusing on single posts with imo very little value. It's like he's following a simple line of seeing a obviouslybad post -> seeing people calling those posts out -> townreading those people. I'd expect a townie to put a bit more thought into it than that.
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The silent read is the same. I already quoted the posts above
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On the above Rels post about mderg: I don't like the first point. I don't think it was meant as a 'trap'. More that if we're getting a plynch train going it would at least generate some talk about plynches which might provide info.
The second point is actually pretty good. Didn't notice that he's pretty much the only other person he's been concerned about. How do you just 'forget' someone you've got suspicions about?
I'm back and forth over what I think of scott anyway which means point three can go either way. Eh.
Observations on tone in point 4 are pretty good. I like. Enough to rule Rels entirely out of a D1 lynch for me at least.
Still thinking on silent's recent post.
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On August 02 2016 06:15 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 06:03 mderg wrote:On August 02 2016 06:02 Rels wrote:
mderg you're scum
##Vote mderg what makes you think so? Several things. First, your entire game is centered around RB, then scott. It's just so easy to talk about him right ? But this post is fucking bullshit: Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 02:53 mderg wrote:
I guess this replacement prevents the plynch discussion that I hoped would give us some information... I don't believe this for one second. Your voting post is pretty well explained for a "trap": Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.
##vote Race Bannon And there WERE some reactions to RB spamming + replacement, and you just didn't seem interested in looking for them. Second, this post is also bullshit: Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 04:32 mderg wrote:On August 02 2016 04:20 -Celestial- wrote:
Also at present:
- silent has done sod all since confirming his feelings on Kelsier
- Rels is going to get himself replaced or modkilled because of total inactivity
Can we expect a replacement or a modkill for Rels if he doesn't turn up at all for the entire day? Now that you mention it, silent is someone I could get behind lynching today. Didn't like his opening and he didn't do anything since then. "Now thazt you mention it" ? The only thing you've extensively talk about apart from RB / scott was how silent's posts were bad. Your scott read is also based party on that: + Show Spoiler +On July 31 2016 21:26 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2016 21:10 silentwarrior wrote:
Well, early posting helps makes other post. We are posting because of him now, aren't we? It helps discussion going, but I agree that now that early game is over he should start getting serious. Hopefully he will start writing constructive stuff from here on.
Kelsier on the other hand said outright that he could post but wouldn't because nothing "reasonable had been posted". But he dosen't post anything at all and says he will even wait. To me that seems a lot more suspicous than posting nonsense. Remember, we are here to lynch mafia not people we don't like. That makes my vote much better than Kelsier. Not to mention it puts pressure on him to not just "see us in a few days" but actually post during this time.
Also, I never said that I wouldn't vote for Race given reason(even said I had no problem with Kelsier voting for him). I didn't vote for Kelsier because he didn't post, I voted for him because he could post but said he wouldn't and instead wait to see what others posted. You have to agree that's kind of suspicous, right? I don't like your reasoning. What Kelsier did was so obvously suspicious that it doesn't really say much. It points much more towards lazy/annoyed than any alignment. On August 01 2016 17:25 mderg wrote:
Completely agree with the stuff about silentwarrior calling out Kelsier. Every proper townie should dislike what Kelsier did. But that doesn't make Kelsier scum, making such a big deal out of it doesn't feel right when you think about it a bit.
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Thoughts on scott: a bit superficial and I absolutely disagree with his thoughts on silent. Don't like him too much for now. On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:
scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated.
His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post. On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:
btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial.
Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody.
He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town". Third, you repeated your scott reasonning several times like a machine, and it's full of words like "superficial" that don't mean anything but looks cool. Standard scum reads. All your reads are like that. Fourth, I just don't like your tone. Scummy posts ahead: + Show Spoiler +On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.
##vote Race Bannon On August 01 2016 02:56 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 01:52 Skynx wrote:On August 01 2016 01:34 Grackaroni wrote:Ok, I'll be back on tonight. I'd like to see some opinions on this post: On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote:Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though. But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote:
This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted. So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us. On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game
##vote Race Bannon
See you all in a few days Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post. I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do. ##vote Kelsier SC I don't like this actually. Feels like he's just trying to find reason to sr someone. I mean you don't force some1 into contribute and half the thread was afk anyways. You can ask his opinions befroe he goes away try to spark some activity but voting because he doesnt contribute cuz cba is weak. Yeah, it's a lazy scumread On August 01 2016 06:00 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 05:38 Lunaticman wrote:On August 01 2016 05:09 KelsierSC wrote:
game starting again cool. Hi i'm town So are you having regrets about something? Your first posts really didn't put you in a good position becauset they were a super lame buss attempt on a "policy lynch" (however I don't think many would disagree on it), I would consider this was more of a towny mistake than anything but if I was town I wouldn't go back on what I said like that without an explination something like: "hey I messed that one up and thought he was super annoying". No intead you were like "Hi I'm town". It's like your just trying to hide what you previously stated. I would definatly not have a problem lynching you for your posting behaviour tbh. Why are you talking about a bus attempt? Do you know Race Bannon's alignment? On August 01 2016 06:45 mderg wrote:
Do something to change that These are all posts that look like you're trying to hard to be useful. But aren't useful.
I never said that I started some policy lynch discussion so we could get some information out of it. I was just a bit disappointed that pretty much the only ting that actually got people to do stuff was shut off because of the replacement. No ulterior motive, just some disappointment.
The "Now that you mention it" was more of a "Oh, I've forgot he is actually a possible lynch target".
Why did I call scott's reasoning superficial? Because it was superficial.
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Yep this is the lynch.
All aboard the mderg express. You have to be seated before the departure. Scummates traveling with mderg are not allowed in
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On August 02 2016 06:24 -Celestial- wrote:
Observations on tone in point 4 are pretty good. I like.
EBWOP: Not that I necessarily AGREE on all them. Still thinking about some. But it makes me think Rels' heart is in the right place.
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I would be down with lynching Mderg.
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On August 02 2016 06:24 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 06:15 Rels wrote:On August 02 2016 06:03 mderg wrote:On August 02 2016 06:02 Rels wrote:
mderg you're scum
##Vote mderg what makes you think so? Several things. First, your entire game is centered around RB, then scott. It's just so easy to talk about him right ? But this post is fucking bullshit: On August 01 2016 02:53 mderg wrote:
I guess this replacement prevents the plynch discussion that I hoped would give us some information... I don't believe this for one second. Your voting post is pretty well explained for a "trap": On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.
##vote Race Bannon And there WERE some reactions to RB spamming + replacement, and you just didn't seem interested in looking for them. Second, this post is also bullshit: On August 02 2016 04:32 mderg wrote:On August 02 2016 04:20 -Celestial- wrote:
Also at present:
- silent has done sod all since confirming his feelings on Kelsier
- Rels is going to get himself replaced or modkilled because of total inactivity
Can we expect a replacement or a modkill for Rels if he doesn't turn up at all for the entire day? Now that you mention it, silent is someone I could get behind lynching today. Didn't like his opening and he didn't do anything since then. "Now thazt you mention it" ? The only thing you've extensively talk about apart from RB / scott was how silent's posts were bad. Your scott read is also based party on that: + Show Spoiler +On July 31 2016 21:26 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2016 21:10 silentwarrior wrote:
Well, early posting helps makes other post. We are posting because of him now, aren't we? It helps discussion going, but I agree that now that early game is over he should start getting serious. Hopefully he will start writing constructive stuff from here on.
Kelsier on the other hand said outright that he could post but wouldn't because nothing "reasonable had been posted". But he dosen't post anything at all and says he will even wait. To me that seems a lot more suspicous than posting nonsense. Remember, we are here to lynch mafia not people we don't like. That makes my vote much better than Kelsier. Not to mention it puts pressure on him to not just "see us in a few days" but actually post during this time.
Also, I never said that I wouldn't vote for Race given reason(even said I had no problem with Kelsier voting for him). I didn't vote for Kelsier because he didn't post, I voted for him because he could post but said he wouldn't and instead wait to see what others posted. You have to agree that's kind of suspicous, right? I don't like your reasoning. What Kelsier did was so obvously suspicious that it doesn't really say much. It points much more towards lazy/annoyed than any alignment. On August 01 2016 17:25 mderg wrote:
Completely agree with the stuff about silentwarrior calling out Kelsier. Every proper townie should dislike what Kelsier did. But that doesn't make Kelsier scum, making such a big deal out of it doesn't feel right when you think about it a bit.
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Thoughts on scott: a bit superficial and I absolutely disagree with his thoughts on silent. Don't like him too much for now. On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:
scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated.
His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post. On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:
btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial.
Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody.
He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town". Third, you repeated your scott reasonning several times like a machine, and it's full of words like "superficial" that don't mean anything but looks cool. Standard scum reads. All your reads are like that. Fourth, I just don't like your tone. Scummy posts ahead: + Show Spoiler +On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.
##vote Race Bannon On August 01 2016 02:56 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 01:52 Skynx wrote:On August 01 2016 01:34 Grackaroni wrote:Ok, I'll be back on tonight. I'd like to see some opinions on this post: On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote:Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though. But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote:
This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted. So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us. On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game
##vote Race Bannon
See you all in a few days Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post. I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do. ##vote Kelsier SC I don't like this actually. Feels like he's just trying to find reason to sr someone. I mean you don't force some1 into contribute and half the thread was afk anyways. You can ask his opinions befroe he goes away try to spark some activity but voting because he doesnt contribute cuz cba is weak. Yeah, it's a lazy scumread On August 01 2016 06:00 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 05:38 Lunaticman wrote:On August 01 2016 05:09 KelsierSC wrote:
game starting again cool. Hi i'm town So are you having regrets about something? Your first posts really didn't put you in a good position becauset they were a super lame buss attempt on a "policy lynch" (however I don't think many would disagree on it), I would consider this was more of a towny mistake than anything but if I was town I wouldn't go back on what I said like that without an explination something like: "hey I messed that one up and thought he was super annoying". No intead you were like "Hi I'm town". It's like your just trying to hide what you previously stated. I would definatly not have a problem lynching you for your posting behaviour tbh. Why are you talking about a bus attempt? Do you know Race Bannon's alignment? On August 01 2016 06:45 mderg wrote:
Do something to change that These are all posts that look like you're trying to hard to be useful. But aren't useful. I never said that I started some policy lynch discussion so we could get some information out of it. I was just a bit disappointed that pretty much the only ting that actually got people to do stuff was shut off because of the replacement. No ulterior motive, just some disappointment. The "Now that you mention it" was more of a "Oh, I've forgot he is actually a possible lynch target". Why did I call scott's reasoning superficial? Because it was superficial.
1. This does not make any sense. If you were swithout plan then you should have been happy with RB being replaced, not disappointed. Policy lynches give almost 0 info.
I realize that if you're town I'm being super tunneled. BUT I can only see this as a proof that you KNEW RB was a townie.
2. I don't believe it. You repeated several times that yhou didn't like silent's posts.
3. Scummy read is scummy
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On August 02 2016 06:30 Grackaroni wrote:
I would be down with lynching Mderg.
Welcome aboard!
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I'm not lynching mderg. I agree with a lot of his reads.
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On August 02 2016 06:24 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 06:15 Rels wrote:On August 02 2016 06:03 mderg wrote:On August 02 2016 06:02 Rels wrote:
mderg you're scum
##Vote mderg what makes you think so? Several things. First, your entire game is centered around RB, then scott. It's just so easy to talk about him right ? But this post is fucking bullshit: On August 01 2016 02:53 mderg wrote:
I guess this replacement prevents the plynch discussion that I hoped would give us some information... I don't believe this for one second. Your voting post is pretty well explained for a "trap": On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.
##vote Race Bannon And there WERE some reactions to RB spamming + replacement, and you just didn't seem interested in looking for them. Second, this post is also bullshit: On August 02 2016 04:32 mderg wrote:On August 02 2016 04:20 -Celestial- wrote:
Also at present:
- silent has done sod all since confirming his feelings on Kelsier
- Rels is going to get himself replaced or modkilled because of total inactivity
Can we expect a replacement or a modkill for Rels if he doesn't turn up at all for the entire day? Now that you mention it, silent is someone I could get behind lynching today. Didn't like his opening and he didn't do anything since then. "Now thazt you mention it" ? The only thing you've extensively talk about apart from RB / scott was how silent's posts were bad. Your scott read is also based party on that: + Show Spoiler +On July 31 2016 21:26 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2016 21:10 silentwarrior wrote:
Well, early posting helps makes other post. We are posting because of him now, aren't we? It helps discussion going, but I agree that now that early game is over he should start getting serious. Hopefully he will start writing constructive stuff from here on.
Kelsier on the other hand said outright that he could post but wouldn't because nothing "reasonable had been posted". But he dosen't post anything at all and says he will even wait. To me that seems a lot more suspicous than posting nonsense. Remember, we are here to lynch mafia not people we don't like. That makes my vote much better than Kelsier. Not to mention it puts pressure on him to not just "see us in a few days" but actually post during this time.
Also, I never said that I wouldn't vote for Race given reason(even said I had no problem with Kelsier voting for him). I didn't vote for Kelsier because he didn't post, I voted for him because he could post but said he wouldn't and instead wait to see what others posted. You have to agree that's kind of suspicous, right? I don't like your reasoning. What Kelsier did was so obvously suspicious that it doesn't really say much. It points much more towards lazy/annoyed than any alignment. On August 01 2016 17:25 mderg wrote:
Completely agree with the stuff about silentwarrior calling out Kelsier. Every proper townie should dislike what Kelsier did. But that doesn't make Kelsier scum, making such a big deal out of it doesn't feel right when you think about it a bit.
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Thoughts on scott: a bit superficial and I absolutely disagree with his thoughts on silent. Don't like him too much for now. On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:
scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated.
His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post. On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:
btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial.
Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody.
He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town". Third, you repeated your scott reasonning several times like a machine, and it's full of words like "superficial" that don't mean anything but looks cool. Standard scum reads. All your reads are like that. Fourth, I just don't like your tone. Scummy posts ahead: + Show Spoiler +On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.
##vote Race Bannon On August 01 2016 02:56 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 01:52 Skynx wrote:On August 01 2016 01:34 Grackaroni wrote:Ok, I'll be back on tonight. I'd like to see some opinions on this post: On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote:Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though. But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote:
This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted. So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us. On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game
##vote Race Bannon
See you all in a few days Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post. I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do. ##vote Kelsier SC I don't like this actually. Feels like he's just trying to find reason to sr someone. I mean you don't force some1 into contribute and half the thread was afk anyways. You can ask his opinions befroe he goes away try to spark some activity but voting because he doesnt contribute cuz cba is weak. Yeah, it's a lazy scumread On August 01 2016 06:00 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 05:38 Lunaticman wrote:On August 01 2016 05:09 KelsierSC wrote:
game starting again cool. Hi i'm town So are you having regrets about something? Your first posts really didn't put you in a good position becauset they were a super lame buss attempt on a "policy lynch" (however I don't think many would disagree on it), I would consider this was more of a towny mistake than anything but if I was town I wouldn't go back on what I said like that without an explination something like: "hey I messed that one up and thought he was super annoying". No intead you were like "Hi I'm town". It's like your just trying to hide what you previously stated. I would definatly not have a problem lynching you for your posting behaviour tbh. Why are you talking about a bus attempt? Do you know Race Bannon's alignment? On August 01 2016 06:45 mderg wrote:
Do something to change that These are all posts that look like you're trying to hard to be useful. But aren't useful. I never said that I started some policy lynch discussion so we could get some information out of it. I was just a bit disappointed that pretty much the only ting that actually got people to do stuff was shut off because of the replacement. No ulterior motive, just some disappointment. The "Now that you mention it" was more of a "Oh, I've forgot he is actually a possible lynch target". Why did I call scott's reasoning superficial? Because it was superficial.
Addig to the "tone" points: I don't see how my posts were "trying to be useful". 2 Of those were simply because I was annoyed at stuff and one wasn't serious at all.
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On August 02 2016 06:33 J Roc wrote:
I'm not lynching mderg. I agree with a lot of his reads.
Which!
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I was fine with a plynch, now I'll vote for one of silent/mderg(pending a re-read of his filter). Silent's entire comeback post is a summary except his "case" on me. His "case" shows either a complete lack of following the thread (it was incredibly obvious my vote was for a plynch, as well as C's) or, more maliciously, intentional misrepresentation. Either way, that isn't going to cut it after disappearing for so long.
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I'm kinda open to being convinced on mderg honestly. I don't like the silent vote as much as I did before his last post (though his silence through this game has been deafening). And if I shift I think that switches the vote off scott, who I really don't want to see lynched D1. And I don't think its likely other trains will get going at this point unless someone picks up on something really blatant.
Can anyone provide a concise, clear, convincing argument to switch right now?
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EBWOP: I don't like silent as much as I did but I still think he's pretty scummy.
For clarification there, before someone decides to misrepresent me.
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On August 02 2016 06:35 -Celestial- wrote:
I'm kinda open to being convinced on mderg honestly. I don't like the silent vote as much as I did before his last post (though his silence through this game has been deafening). And if I shift I think that switches the vote off scott, who I really don't want to see lynched D1. And I don't think its likely other trains will get going at this point unless someone picks up on something really blatant.
Can anyone provide a concise, clear, convincing argument to switch right now?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/511961-newbie-student-mafia-xxii?page=23
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