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On August 01 2016 05:09 KelsierSC wrote: game starting again cool. Hi i'm town
So are you having regrets about something? Your first posts really didn't put you in a good position becauset they were a super lame buss attempt on a "policy lynch" (however I don't think many would disagree on it), I would consider this was more of a towny mistake than anything but if I was town I wouldn't go back on what I said like that without an explination something like:
"hey I messed that one up and thought he was super annoying". No intead you were like "Hi I'm town".
It's like your just trying to hide what you previously stated. I would definatly not have a problem lynching you for your posting behaviour tbh.
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On August 01 2016 11:44 -Celestial- wrote: That'll have to do for tonight I'm afraid. Its nearly four in the morning. My brain was already starting to feel numb about half way through writing that.
First I just want to say what an incredible post, I love it!
Also no mafia would ever write a post that is so coherent so you are the best town lean in the game for me atm.
Tbh I didnt even realize rels was in the game, my god bring out another salt shacker for me lol.
Yeah also I think I misunderstood the term bussing, I think I was thinking of like a train? When someone stacks votes on a player. I dont know the proper terminology for it.
Be back in a couple of hours from work.
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On August 01 2016 14:51 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 04:36 Lunaticman wrote:On August 01 2016 01:52 Skynx wrote:On August 01 2016 01:34 Grackaroni wrote:Ok, I'll be back on tonight. I'd like to see some opinions on this post: On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote:Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though. But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote: This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted. So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us. On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote: I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game
##vote Race Bannon
See you all in a few days Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post. I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do. ##vote Kelsier SC I don't like this actually. Feels like he's just trying to find reason to sr someone. I mean you don't force some1 into contribute and half the thread was afk anyways. You can ask his opinions befroe he goes away try to spark some activity but voting because he doesnt contribute cuz cba is weak. It feels like you are also sceptical of Grac, I don't know if I will be able to trust him. Also I think he is playing similar to last game so far. I don't know if that is good or bad. The big difference is that he is contributing "more" atm so that should indicate he is towny? He asked for people's opinions, I gave one, how's that being sceptical of anyone? Also previous games shouldn't have an effect on how you approach people if they are not massive trolls. If you feel like you have such a good feel in his playstyle after 1 game and can meta read him based off of that 24h into a new game please inform us.
That's what I did I must say I think he played brilliantly last game so of course I put him under the spotlight. I think he is probably town since it feels like he's intention is to solve the game atm. But he already fooled me once so we will have to wait and see I suppose.
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On August 01 2016 12:45 -Celestial- wrote:Still not managed to get to bed yet and its approaching 5. I'm going to just drop off at my desk. But I wanted to reply here anyway. Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 12:11 Lunaticman wrote: First I just want to say what an incredible post, I love it!
Also no mafia would ever write a post that is so coherent so you are the best town lean in the game for me atm.
Tbh I didnt even realize rels was in the game, my god bring out another salt shacker for me lol.
Yeah also I think I misunderstood the term bussing, I think I was thinking of like a train? When someone stacks votes on a player. I dont know the proper terminology for it.
Be back in a couple of hours from work. Thank you, but be careful. Make sure you're reading through what I've said and check that my train of thought makes sense to you before you townread me for it. I won't say its 'easy' (because that damn thing took between one to two hours to write) but its a very 'simple' thing for a scum to simply write a huge post and then hide behind it. Trust nobody until you've decided they're town from what they've actually said, not just from posting a lot of stuff that reads nicely. I'll be asking myself some very searching questions later on, believe me. (Kudos to whoever gets that reference.) Here's a useful summary of bussing: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=BussingI think you might be thinking of bandwagonning? Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 12:22 scott31337 wrote: I only added the people who actually voted for me - There was a vote in the main thread for Race that was not in the voting thread I didn't count either. I was looking more at who pulled the trigger to do so. And BTDT looks the worst out of those four. Fair enough, I thought it might be something like that.
Yes I like that you remain "skeptical" and it is true that it was pretty late when I read your post where I am. But I can't see anyone being mafia doing a post like that. At least not compared to the other players atm. I had a hard time seeing Bannon being mafia also because of the spamming but that is irrelevant now though.
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On August 02 2016 03:18 Skynx wrote: Rels should be the lynch I'm afraid. No one really sticks out to me.
I wouldn't mind lynching rels since he is super inactive. This is how he survived like 5 town lynches in a row last game. Also I'm still salty from last game.
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On August 02 2016 03:12 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 12:11 Lunaticman wrote:On August 01 2016 11:44 -Celestial- wrote: That'll have to do for tonight I'm afraid. Its nearly four in the morning. My brain was already starting to feel numb about half way through writing that. First I just want to say what an incredible post, I love it! Also no mafia would ever write a post that is so coherent so you are the best town lean in the game for me atm. Tbh I didnt even realize rels was in the game, my god bring out another salt shacker for me lol. Yeah also I think I misunderstood the term bussing, I think I was thinking of like a train? When someone stacks votes on a player. I dont know the proper terminology for it. Be back in a couple of hours from work. This is a post that is absolutely empty and has no content at all.
I can see why you think that but at the time of the posting the game was almost dead. Also it contained effort which I liked.
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On August 02 2016 04:03 Grackaroni wrote: Last game Rels actually did go away for the weekend. It wasn't a scum strategy from him to disappear.
No but it did save him since he used it as an excuse and he was scum. I wont have that again.
Also I'd much rather lynch someone who isn't typing anything at all than someone who is trying to contribute towards solving the game. The silent mafia is always the worst. He had plenty of time to do one post. The players posting are more likely to make a mistake the more they post.
And this "save him he might help us later is just a bunch of crap".
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On August 02 2016 03:19 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2016 18:18 Lunaticman wrote: I'm just going to assume Bannon is town because of the excessive posting. He is doing the exact same thing I did last game only as a incomprehensible mess. Actually why is everyone calling out my post when Lunatic posted a town read on Race Bannon for worse reasons?
No mafia in their right mind would ever do something like that because of "policy lynching" is a thing day one. Since he got banned and replaced we don't have to think about that anymore but I am certain he wasn't mafia.
Which kinda makes Scott town I suppose.
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On August 02 2016 04:15 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 04:05 Stutters695 wrote: Grack is 75% likely to be scum. He has no actual reads and when he does vote someone, it's never from demonstrating a scum mindset.
I'm not sold on lunatic. He's had a hard time establishing reads, but that's more expected from a new player. And this isn't actually accurate either. Lunatic has a scum read on Kelsier for his opening post. I didn't because I didn't think there was anything alignment indicative there. Now somehow the lack of content is somehow falling on me. I won't make reads out of nothing. However, I've actually posted some pretty good points on Lunatic. The only post I've liked from Luna so far is his Kelsier post where he seemed really confident that Kelsier was mafia.
Also I said early that I would try to post less to appease some of the other players. If you are going that route we should lynch rels.
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I'm going to bed soon so I'm just putting my vote on rels atm. I might be back one more time before bed.
#Vote Rels
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On August 02 2016 04:50 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 04:38 Stutters695 wrote: As far as I can tell your only real point against him is he's not super active and didn't comment on celestial's post regarding you. He did say he was leaning town on you which implies he at least disagreed with it.
He might be scum but your points are a stretch, it'll become more apparent in time and I'm not convinced enough to lynch him over someone who is barely posting when that's half the game. We have two players with long filters for this game skynx/Luna voting for somebody afk. We have a bunch of other people who have posted close to nothing worth commenting on. With this in mind, how exactly is your push on me not completely horrible? Now add in the fact that you are unwilling to contribute anything else besides this. Why shouldn't I vote you? I was going to write something on Lunatic but I'm going to go reread the start of his filter from the last game first.
I don't get why you get to call me out on my previous games but I can't do it to rels or you, thats super scummy. And also why am I scummy for not posting "enough" while you say I have the longest filter with skynx. What is your read on skynx anyway?
I'm might just flip the thread before I sleep.
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A lot happend while I was asleep, There are many suspicious things that occured and I will try to work through the pages during the day (at work atm) and explain what I believe happend.
I think it is safe to say that most of the accusations yesterday was probably Town versus Town (at least of the players being tossed around for a lynch while I was asleep). First I'm going to post a list on my current read on the players (I can elaborate on them if asked). And it is safe to assume at least one mafia was on the train on Mderg. And one mafia was probably not on it.
Town: Lunaticman Mderg
Town-reads: Celestial Scott Skynx
Nullreads/unsure: MoosyDoosy silentwarrior J Roc Stutter BeenThereDoneThat
Scummy: KelsierSC Grac
Mafia: Rels
First of all Rels joins the game way to late to actually consolidate town in any meaningful way. And he only does it after being called out on it (modkill warning?). And he starts a train with conviction anyway and simply points out three/four players based on nothing:
Scum team is very likely to be in this pool:
mderg Celestial / KSC / Stutters BTDT
You then explain why Mderg is scum and I have to agree most of your points are valid but it feels contrived when you do this post:
Yep this is the lynch. All aboard the mderg express. You have to be seated before the departure. Scummates traveling with mderg are not allowed in
And then you welcome Grac aboard, like it is the only available lynch target. Grac is more than happy to follow your read and happily join. I feel like there has to be one mafia between the two of you and it feels like you are playing way to similar to last game. It can be that one of you wree trying to protect one of the lynch targets in scott/Mderg. I don't think both of you are mafia though.
I also feel that Moosys modkill warning was really wierd, it might be he simply forgot to vote but it is still strange.
I am not impressed with Kelsier contributions to town atm, it doesn't feel like he trying to solve the game. It is like he doesn't care and just coasting through the day, I expect him to do a lot of work day 2.
The same thing applies to BeenThere but I feel he has done more for town.
I don't like how Grac was sheeping Rels. I find it hard to think that both Grac and Rels would make such a mistake but it is not impossible. I would think Rels is more probable out of the two. Grac has way more activity this game and feels towny to me based on it. But some of his thoughts doesn't make sense to me. Ill have to reread his filter.
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On August 02 2016 20:46 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 18:18 Lunaticman wrote:A lot happend while I was asleep, There are many suspicious things that occured and I will try to work through the pages during the day (at work atm) and explain what I believe happend. I think it is safe to say that most of the accusations yesterday was probably Town versus Town (at least of the players being tossed around for a lynch while I was asleep). First I'm going to post a list on my current read on the players (I can elaborate on them if asked). And it is safe to assume at least one mafia was on the train on Mderg. And one mafia was probably not on it. Town: Lunaticman Mderg Town-reads: Celestial Scott Skynx Nullreads/unsure: MoosyDoosy silentwarrior J Roc Stutter BeenThereDoneThat Scummy: KelsierSC Grac Mafia: Rels First of all Rels joins the game way to late to actually consolidate town in any meaningful way. And he only does it after being called out on it (modkill warning?). And he starts a train with conviction anyway and simply points out three/four players based on nothing: Scum team is very likely to be in this pool:
mderg Celestial / KSC / Stutters BTDT You then explain why Mderg is scum and I have to agree most of your points are valid but it feels contrived when you do this post: Yep this is the lynch. All aboard the mderg express. You have to be seated before the departure. Scummates traveling with mderg are not allowed in And then you welcome Grac aboard, like it is the only available lynch target. Grac is more than happy to follow your read and happily join. I feel like there has to be one mafia between the two of you and it feels like you are playing way to similar to last game. It can be that one of you wree trying to protect one of the lynch targets in scott/Mderg. I don't think both of you are mafia though. I also feel that Moosys modkill warning was really wierd, it might be he simply forgot to vote but it is still strange. I am not impressed with Kelsier contributions to town atm, it doesn't feel like he trying to solve the game. It is like he doesn't care and just coasting through the day, I expect him to do a lot of work day 2. The same thing applies to BeenThere but I feel he has done more for town. I don't like how Grac was sheeping Rels. I find it hard to think that both Grac and Rels would make such a mistake but it is not impossible. I would think Rels is more probable out of the two. Grac has way more activity this game and feels towny to me based on it. But some of his thoughts doesn't make sense to me. Ill have to reread his filter. Man why 1 thing you say doesn't match the other one in a regular basis? You assign Grack to Rels, mention previous game and gracks willingness to jump on the train. You then put grack in same line as KSC? You say btdt has done more for town compared to KSC so he's null and KSC's low tier scum? KSC's entire activity consists of a lazy vote on Race/Scott, I dunno how that is not null and btdt is. I also dunno how you assign Celestial as top tier town and not Moosy/Stutters cuz they did everything together post flip. Stutters/Celestial were even working together pre-flip. Moosy's warning is as per game rules, please read them. Voting is the most important thing here.
At first I put both KSC and BTDT in the same category but when I read their filters BTDT did way more to solve the game, so I "uppgraded" him. KSC filter is really really bad, it does not contain anything useful at all.
The reason for where I put Grac is that he has posted a lot more constructive this game compared to last game and before I went to sleep I had him as towny. I did not like his sheep vote from Rels at all and when I compared them I think Rels is more likely to be mafia between the two. Townies are prone to make more "honest" mistakes and I think Rels has to take responsibility for the misslynch,
I don't feel I have as good a read on either Moosy or Stutters yet to place them in my town list. They are however more towny than null but I'm not certain. I think I will reread their filters after day 2 and make a decision after that.
This might sound cliche but Celestials filter is what I consider to be the perfect towny. I also don't think any mafia would put that much effort into solving the game that early and just trying to move the thread forward when it was basically dying. Atm I see no reason to change my mind regarding cele.
Also scott is not mafia because of how bannon was playing. I don't buy that he would do that spam as either alignment.
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On August 02 2016 21:26 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 21:09 Lunaticman wrote:On August 02 2016 20:46 Skynx wrote:On August 02 2016 18:18 Lunaticman wrote:A lot happend while I was asleep, There are many suspicious things that occured and I will try to work through the pages during the day (at work atm) and explain what I believe happend. I think it is safe to say that most of the accusations yesterday was probably Town versus Town (at least of the players being tossed around for a lynch while I was asleep). First I'm going to post a list on my current read on the players (I can elaborate on them if asked). And it is safe to assume at least one mafia was on the train on Mderg. And one mafia was probably not on it. Town: Lunaticman Mderg Town-reads: Celestial Scott Skynx Nullreads/unsure: MoosyDoosy silentwarrior J Roc Stutter BeenThereDoneThat Scummy: KelsierSC Grac Mafia: Rels First of all Rels joins the game way to late to actually consolidate town in any meaningful way. And he only does it after being called out on it (modkill warning?). And he starts a train with conviction anyway and simply points out three/four players based on nothing: Scum team is very likely to be in this pool:
mderg Celestial / KSC / Stutters BTDT You then explain why Mderg is scum and I have to agree most of your points are valid but it feels contrived when you do this post: Yep this is the lynch. All aboard the mderg express. You have to be seated before the departure. Scummates traveling with mderg are not allowed in And then you welcome Grac aboard, like it is the only available lynch target. Grac is more than happy to follow your read and happily join. I feel like there has to be one mafia between the two of you and it feels like you are playing way to similar to last game. It can be that one of you wree trying to protect one of the lynch targets in scott/Mderg. I don't think both of you are mafia though. I also feel that Moosys modkill warning was really wierd, it might be he simply forgot to vote but it is still strange. I am not impressed with Kelsier contributions to town atm, it doesn't feel like he trying to solve the game. It is like he doesn't care and just coasting through the day, I expect him to do a lot of work day 2. The same thing applies to BeenThere but I feel he has done more for town. I don't like how Grac was sheeping Rels. I find it hard to think that both Grac and Rels would make such a mistake but it is not impossible. I would think Rels is more probable out of the two. Grac has way more activity this game and feels towny to me based on it. But some of his thoughts doesn't make sense to me. Ill have to reread his filter. Man why 1 thing you say doesn't match the other one in a regular basis? You assign Grack to Rels, mention previous game and gracks willingness to jump on the train. You then put grack in same line as KSC? You say btdt has done more for town compared to KSC so he's null and KSC's low tier scum? KSC's entire activity consists of a lazy vote on Race/Scott, I dunno how that is not null and btdt is. I also dunno how you assign Celestial as top tier town and not Moosy/Stutters cuz they did everything together post flip. Stutters/Celestial were even working together pre-flip. Moosy's warning is as per game rules, please read them. Voting is the most important thing here. At first I put both KSC and BTDT in the same category but when I read their filters BTDT did way more to solve the game, so I "uppgraded" him. KSC filter is really really bad, it does not contain anything useful at all. The reason for where I put Grac is that he has posted a lot more constructive this game compared to last game and before I went to sleep I had him as towny. I did not like his sheep vote from Rels at all and when I compared them I think Rels is more likely to be mafia between the two. Townies are prone to make more "honest" mistakes and I think Rels has to take responsibility for the misslynch, I don't feel I have as good a read on either Moosy or Stutters yet to place them in my town list. They are however more towny than null but I'm not certain. I think I will reread their filters after day 2 and make a decision after that. This might sound cliche but Celestials filter is what I consider to be the perfect towny. I also don't think any mafia would put that much effort into solving the game that early and just trying to move the thread forward when it was basically dying. Atm I see no reason to change my mind regarding cele. Also scott is not mafia because of how bannon was playing. I don't buy that he would do that spam as either alignment. Well, make sure to read few pages back lol. Also on bolded, I'm afraid to tell you when trolly players decide to turn the switch on, they absolutely and absolutely have to do it for both alignments otherwise it becomes a strategic weakness on their part and we can meta read them based off of that.
Well that makes sense but he hasn't played before right?
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On August 02 2016 21:48 J Roc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 21:29 Lunaticman wrote:On August 02 2016 21:26 Skynx wrote:On August 02 2016 21:09 Lunaticman wrote:On August 02 2016 20:46 Skynx wrote:On August 02 2016 18:18 Lunaticman wrote:A lot happend while I was asleep, There are many suspicious things that occured and I will try to work through the pages during the day (at work atm) and explain what I believe happend. I think it is safe to say that most of the accusations yesterday was probably Town versus Town (at least of the players being tossed around for a lynch while I was asleep). First I'm going to post a list on my current read on the players (I can elaborate on them if asked). And it is safe to assume at least one mafia was on the train on Mderg. And one mafia was probably not on it. Town: Lunaticman Mderg Town-reads: Celestial Scott Skynx Nullreads/unsure: MoosyDoosy silentwarrior J Roc Stutter BeenThereDoneThat Scummy: KelsierSC Grac Mafia: Rels First of all Rels joins the game way to late to actually consolidate town in any meaningful way. And he only does it after being called out on it (modkill warning?). And he starts a train with conviction anyway and simply points out three/four players based on nothing: Scum team is very likely to be in this pool:
mderg Celestial / KSC / Stutters BTDT You then explain why Mderg is scum and I have to agree most of your points are valid but it feels contrived when you do this post: Yep this is the lynch. All aboard the mderg express. You have to be seated before the departure. Scummates traveling with mderg are not allowed in And then you welcome Grac aboard, like it is the only available lynch target. Grac is more than happy to follow your read and happily join. I feel like there has to be one mafia between the two of you and it feels like you are playing way to similar to last game. It can be that one of you wree trying to protect one of the lynch targets in scott/Mderg. I don't think both of you are mafia though. I also feel that Moosys modkill warning was really wierd, it might be he simply forgot to vote but it is still strange. I am not impressed with Kelsier contributions to town atm, it doesn't feel like he trying to solve the game. It is like he doesn't care and just coasting through the day, I expect him to do a lot of work day 2. The same thing applies to BeenThere but I feel he has done more for town. I don't like how Grac was sheeping Rels. I find it hard to think that both Grac and Rels would make such a mistake but it is not impossible. I would think Rels is more probable out of the two. Grac has way more activity this game and feels towny to me based on it. But some of his thoughts doesn't make sense to me. Ill have to reread his filter. Man why 1 thing you say doesn't match the other one in a regular basis? You assign Grack to Rels, mention previous game and gracks willingness to jump on the train. You then put grack in same line as KSC? You say btdt has done more for town compared to KSC so he's null and KSC's low tier scum? KSC's entire activity consists of a lazy vote on Race/Scott, I dunno how that is not null and btdt is. I also dunno how you assign Celestial as top tier town and not Moosy/Stutters cuz they did everything together post flip. Stutters/Celestial were even working together pre-flip. Moosy's warning is as per game rules, please read them. Voting is the most important thing here. At first I put both KSC and BTDT in the same category but when I read their filters BTDT did way more to solve the game, so I "uppgraded" him. KSC filter is really really bad, it does not contain anything useful at all. The reason for where I put Grac is that he has posted a lot more constructive this game compared to last game and before I went to sleep I had him as towny. I did not like his sheep vote from Rels at all and when I compared them I think Rels is more likely to be mafia between the two. Townies are prone to make more "honest" mistakes and I think Rels has to take responsibility for the misslynch, I don't feel I have as good a read on either Moosy or Stutters yet to place them in my town list. They are however more towny than null but I'm not certain. I think I will reread their filters after day 2 and make a decision after that. This might sound cliche but Celestials filter is what I consider to be the perfect towny. I also don't think any mafia would put that much effort into solving the game that early and just trying to move the thread forward when it was basically dying. Atm I see no reason to change my mind regarding cele. Also scott is not mafia because of how bannon was playing. I don't buy that he would do that spam as either alignment. Well, make sure to read few pages back lol. Also on bolded, I'm afraid to tell you when trolly players decide to turn the switch on, they absolutely and absolutely have to do it for both alignments otherwise it becomes a strategic weakness on their part and we can meta read them based off of that. Well that makes sense but he hasn't played before right? No he has played before, not sure if he has rolled scum before though.
Maybe that is going down the wrong rabbit hole but do you mind checking? otherwise I might reread day 1 with bannon/scott.
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On August 02 2016 22:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 20:51 Skynx wrote: And thats about it I guess.
Rels/Grack/Silent is possible but prolly one of them is town. Alternatively add Scott in there and make it 2/4.
Luna/KSC/btdt are really low hanging fruits, watch out for anyone pushing lynches on them early on based on activity/contribution.
Celest/Stutters/Moosy/Jroc I won't be lynching for a while.
I'm sure 3rd scum will giveaway stuff if we keep the track on them 4 on mderg train. This is the weird part of the low hanging fruits. There should have been a Mafia on Race Bannon because he was too easy a chance to kill especially when we look at the list of people voting for him: KSC mderg Stutters btdt J Roc KSC is null-town for me right now, mderg flipped town, and Stutters is fairly town. That leaves us with btdt and J Roc and btdt is the more likely. Especially considering he had such shit reason to vote Race Bannon in the first place because he tried to make up a reason to show RB as scummy when the spammy stuff RB was doing was completely NAI. If you look at the final votecount, you see that Grack/silent were on every possible wagon except for the btdt one as well. I'm pretty sure the team is btdt/Grack/silent.
I want you to tell me why we shouldn't just lynch Rels though. There has to be a mafia between Rels/Grac? They actually did a misslynch, The Bannon train so far to my knowledge is just speculation right?
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On August 02 2016 22:34 J Roc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 22:24 Lunaticman wrote:On August 02 2016 22:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 02 2016 20:51 Skynx wrote: And thats about it I guess.
Rels/Grack/Silent is possible but prolly one of them is town. Alternatively add Scott in there and make it 2/4.
Luna/KSC/btdt are really low hanging fruits, watch out for anyone pushing lynches on them early on based on activity/contribution.
Celest/Stutters/Moosy/Jroc I won't be lynching for a while.
I'm sure 3rd scum will giveaway stuff if we keep the track on them 4 on mderg train. This is the weird part of the low hanging fruits. There should have been a Mafia on Race Bannon because he was too easy a chance to kill especially when we look at the list of people voting for him: KSC mderg Stutters btdt J Roc KSC is null-town for me right now, mderg flipped town, and Stutters is fairly town. That leaves us with btdt and J Roc and btdt is the more likely. Especially considering he had such shit reason to vote Race Bannon in the first place because he tried to make up a reason to show RB as scummy when the spammy stuff RB was doing was completely NAI. If you look at the final votecount, you see that Grack/silent were on every possible wagon except for the btdt one as well. I'm pretty sure the team is btdt/Grack/silent. I want you to tell me why we shouldn't just lynch Rels though. There has to be a mafia between Rels/Grac? They actually did a misslynch, The Bannon train so far to my knowledge is just speculation right? Like what was said earlier leading a day 1 mislynch is more likely to come from town, but like I said rels is capable of doing so as scum in a game he thinks the player list is weak like this one and people will expect him to be town leader.
Well the way he went about the lynch is what I'm having a hard time to accept. There already were a few lynches in motion and he just rides in on the wind late and goes balls to the walls lets get Mderg. it seemed contrived. I also don't like how fast that wagon formed from the other lynches being talked about. It felt like he was basically trying to save someone rather than lynching a mafia.
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Sorry I wasn't around more, I've been working a double shift.
I don't think it is even worth trying to say anything right now that can change anything?
I just find it funny your lynching me out of what is available.
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And Rels wtf do you really think I'm the mafia?
I'm still working so I don't really have time to say much atm. But without the vig claim I would have gone for a lynch on you 100%. I thought for sure there was a mafia between you and grac. Apperently I was wrong.
But hey so was you right since you killed grac?
I just don't know why I'm getting punished for it.
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Also I find it funny your meta reading me on one game. I even said I wouldn't post as much because I was trying to adapt more. But other people are doing like super scummy stuff which people dont even look at.
Ahhh. man its a bummer.
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