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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 16 2016 19:22 GMT
#721
On July 17 2016 04:20 Damdred wrote:
I'm back from foods with the wife.

As for my reads

Town:
Damdred
Vivax
Dc
(Tentative) EC
Shape

Nullish
Sky
Prp
Snickers
Keup

Scummy:
Kel

It's kind of dumb that I have so many nulls. Like skyn is actually looking really good his latest posts so I don't think I want to Lynch him. In fact I might move him up because it looks so much and the tone feels like his town game now. I sort of like that read.

The problem with the others is that I like the thought snickers put into some of the posts and it's probably the work he really didn't have to do if he was getting lynched anyway.

Prp just doesn't seem to care and neither does k.

I think I'd rather Lynch Kel today

We'll lynch him tomorrow dw.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 16 2016 19:29 GMT
#722
Like there's 0 chance I'll let a no Lynch happen in any regard so don't worry about that
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
July 16 2016 19:34 GMT
#723
Anyways, I am working thru if Emp's claim makes sense. I came across a few things.

Overall, his tone matches at this point, what I know as Emp's overall tone. Basically, mine on meth. Super happy and joy, and what I have seen him done as scum. that said, never saw him as town so that doesn't count for much. I am a bit wondering why he doesn't seem more...concerned? that normally comes with being blue. This i guess could be explained however, from finally rolling town, which as we know, he was hyped to do.

Outside of that,

On July 14 2016 00:59 emperorchampion wrote:
As of the time of this post:

Won't lynch:
Shaple
praple
Skynx
Vivax
Damdred
Kruppe
KelsierSC
DC

Would lynch:
kush - activity + below
snickers - activity
voronoi - below


Kush: + Show Spoiler +

On July 13 2016 13:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Dc I trust you man. Who should I vote?

Ec, lemme see if I understand this..
Last game prpl played less neutral and people scum read him for it.
This game he is playing more neutral. And that means he is town why?
If he were scum, wouldn't he also not want to act the same way that made people scum read him?

Tunnel on this point. Yeah it could, or it could not. I interpreted as town behaviour and it seems a lot of other people have as well, so the choice is yours. At least the other person who is still tunneling this point (DC) has the sense to scum read prpl, you didn't even do that. Not pickin up what you're throwin down, sorry

What's your plynch btw, for activity?


Voronoi:
+ Show Spoiler +

I think voronoi made this post that resonated with me:
On July 13 2016 07:52 vorono wrote:
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On July 13 2016 00:22 Shapelog wrote:
On July 13 2016 00:12 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 12 2016 23:43 Shapelog wrote:
On July 12 2016 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:
So Shape what you think of Emperor vs Voro? Just wanting your opinion on it now since it pretty much the center of the game atm.

YOU STOLE MY SHIT!

Emp: nothing i've seen from him convinces me that he is town, I am going ahead and saying that. His power of postivity (aka the posts) freak me out and seem kinda forced too me. Like he is restating too much that he is so happy/hype (or did so early on.) But, while I do have problems with him, Nothing is strongly leaning me to consider him scum other then that. Content wise, nothing stood out too out to me other then the weird meta usage. But, I remember when i was starting, and how I meta people off of 1 game as well.

Voro: Vovo i....Don't like at all. He is super focus on Emp, tunneling him, not reassessing his read at all it seems, completely ignoring everything else in the thread minus early on with prp. and with Khez. Hasn't answer any questions hardly, tried to turn the interaction with Keppee as if Kepper was dodging a question and was sus for that. So, I really do not like him as of now. He needs to expand his read with new posts, or at least interact with the rest of the thread.

If Vovo flips scum, Emp might be more town.

If Emp flips scum, idk honestly if that would prove anything. It is so weak at this point, it reminds me of how i buss someone as scum.


I dunno I think I generally post a lot of smileys, you could probably look at my posts elsewhere on TL to confirm (oh god please dont)

So you think that our interactions (vovo and I) could be scum v scum?

I've hosted/cohosted both of those games that you were scum in. I know. And, you where scum.

What I mean here, is that early on, you just seemed to be relating the fact that you were hype/happy too much IMO. And given your "haven't rolled town yet" it could make sense for you to do that as scum this game.

Mostly Vovo's is the reason why I think so. And no so the interaction, but his push. His push on you is pretty weak now, and reminds me a lot of how i bused people (Doyouhas, TT kinda, Ikido) when i am scum. And given this is a vanilla set up, no mafia role is worth more then the other.

But this relys on you flipping scum. The reason why it doesn't work necessary with you bussing him as SvS, is because your not activitly pushing him enough to get cred after it is done IMO. Which is why you bus in the first place.

furthermore, if you lynch me when i flip town it gives you an excuse to townread empoleon, you can be all like "oh so they werent scum together oh well that invalidates my only point against this evidently upstanding town member"

I like that he made this point, because it was something that gives me slight misgivings about shape as well, since this is the exact thing that I tried to do my first game as mafia.

Also this:
On July 13 2016 06:37 vorono wrote:
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On July 12 2016 23:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Rolf Shape we were asking each other the same question. So I don't know what think of it because it does seems like what Holyflare did to me in HO LY F * * * E Mafia but Holyflare is a vet though. If voro is scum eh picking on a easy target since emperor is a newbie but then again DC is considered a Newbie too because they both haven't played that many games.

dude i'm a newbie not empoleon, he has like 10000 posts.

empoleon looks like scum to me, you're saying "if he's scum" but nothing to suggest why this interpretation is valid

I get the feeling that everything was because he thinks I'm some scum mastermind LOL

In summary, I've liked his play in the second half of day 1. That said, his play in the first half of day1 was pretty scummy so he remains in this spot.


Read his Vovo read here, and look at the bottom. He says,
In summary, I've liked his play in the second half of day 1. That said, his play in the first half of day1 was pretty scummy so he remains in this spot.

And from what I know of blue plays, Blue's typically tunnel who they think is scum more then how a townie does. Here, he admits to Vovo having a good seconded half, yet, Keeps his read the same. This aligns with the point above.

Then the Kush thing also I suppose follows it.

And.....That's it.

Nothing else set off anything my mind looks for when reading to see if someone is blue. And honestly, it is not enough to tell either way. I found nothing that talked about blue roles in depth, or any of the usual tells I see. His claim timing is right for either side of the coin, and frankly, I am not sure if I believe his claim.

I really want other peoples opinion on the Claim (not if he is scummy or not) and if they see something.

And while I am at it,
On July 16 2016 23:00 emperorchampion wrote:
@shape: I was at work, working, at the deadline. I lost track of time. Why would I try to convince damdy to switch with -1 minutes left in the day, I thought I had like 15 left? I did think that kush was a better lynch at the time over snickers (well that was obv wrong lol).

I like the post you made on reasons for kush shooting, and I feel like the only way of knowing is if we look at the snickers lynch. I can't help but feeling that both me and ksc are being set up as obvious lynchbait, and to a lesser extent kruppe too. Also shape, you're saying you want to consolidate but you're still holding your vote, I don't see the point.

@shape: who was your preferred lynch target d1?


I am holding onto my vote, to place were ever It is needed. Even though I didn't place it, I am pretty sure people know where I wanted it it go, Nor do I honestly use it enough as a weapon tbh.

Let's look away from the damdred post then. The vote switch from you was still a few hours before the lynch happen. So you did have time to see it. I will admit, if you are blue, the Kush thing could make some more sense. But, saying you are going to do X, restating X, and then not doing X, is concerning.

as of D1 lynch target. it pretty much is who ever I voiced sus. too D1 + anyone who would be afk. I wish I could say more, but i wasn't there. And as much as I would love to say you. or what not, im bias now.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
July 16 2016 19:37 GMT
#724
On July 17 2016 04:20 Damdred wrote:
I'm back from foods with the wife.

As for my reads

Town:
Damdred
Vivax
Dc

(Tentative) EC
Shape

Nullish
Sky
Prp
Snickers
Keup

Scummy:
Kel

It's kind of dumb that I have so many nulls. Like skyn is actually looking really good his latest posts so I don't think I want to Lynch him. In fact I might move him up because it looks so much and the tone feels like his town game now. I sort of like that read.

The problem with the others is that I like the thought snickers put into some of the posts and it's probably the work he really didn't have to do if he was getting lynched anyway.

Prp just doesn't seem to care and neither does k.

I think I'd rather Lynch Kel today

Vivax and Damdred be like:
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But really, how is DC not higher then vivax?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
July 16 2016 19:42 GMT
#725
Confirm Townies

DCyoungfly: I mean, unless the other other mason pops up, He is basically confirmed anyways. Unless Skynx pops up.


Town (no order)

Dammy: Overall, I liked what he has done. Even with the drop, I believe the RL situation, and as of rn, it isn't that much of a concern for me.

Skynx: Feels like the skynx I know. Admittedly he could just be more active this game cause he knows that gets him town read, but d2 he has done much more better.



Town leans

Vivax: D1 was pretty good. D2 he slimmed down a bit, which made me think about his scum meta. Problem is, thread is so dead, I cannot tell if he is disinterested or actually following it. Shared a bunch of logic I had with LS, even if it was wrong. Town lean for now.

Chez/Slam (kuppee): Honestly, I don't want to lynch just because I love reading that shit. Funny enough, they have given out more reads on people (even if the reasoning isn't there) then other people. And while I still don't fully understand wtf the reads are on, I don't see or feel a need to lynch him.



Null (no order)

Snickers: Other then the Kush's got killed for talent world, I got nothing majorly wrong with him. He is starting to do stuff, which cleared the activity probs. I had with him back in day 1. And he is actually posting reads and casing. And while his case on me and Skynx is wrong (which I will get to later), He is actually again doing stuff. That said, nothing from him is outstandingly town yet.




Scum leans
Prp: D2 plan for him is to lynch Kush's list. And seems hell bent on it as well. Pretty much focused on Snickers overall and his lynch. And even defends the other wagonie, to get his wagon on snickers. Outside of that, nothing else strikes me as scummy much, and would just like to hear him comment on anything outside of that. Or even on Snicker's newest posts.



Scum



Special Cases:
EC: If it wasn;t closed set up, I could honestly be more certain rn about his claim. Some things point to him actually being vet in the post before this, yet,
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
July 16 2016 19:43 GMT
#726
FFS,

It isn't done
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
July 16 2016 19:55 GMT
#727
Who's here btw?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
July 16 2016 20:07 GMT
#728
On July 17 2016 04:55 Shapelog wrote:
Who's here btw?


I'm in and out between doing shit.

I don't want a no-lynch. \

How long till deadline?

I'd rather Lynch Emp than Snickers, not sure if there are other viable candidates at this point that we can get a majority for.

Can people tell us now if they will be on for deadline?

"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
July 16 2016 20:11 GMT
#729
[image loading]

Confirm Townies

DCyoungfly: I mean, unless the other other mason pops up, He is basically confirmed anyways. Unless Skynx pops up.


Town (no order)

Dammy: Overall, I liked what he has done. Even with the drop, I believe the RL situation, and as of rn, it isn't that much of a concern for me.

Skynx: Feels like the skynx I know. Admittedly he could just be more active this game cause he knows that gets him town read, but d2 he has done much more better. I want to see btw, what he comes up with when (hopfully) a lynch happens.



Town leans

Vivax: D1 was pretty good. D2 he slimmed down a bit, which made me think about his scum meta. Problem is, thread is so dead, I cannot tell if he is disinterested or actually following it. Shared a bunch of logic I had with LS, even if it was wrong. Town lean for now.

Chez/Slam (kuppee): Honestly, I don't want to lynch just because I love reading that shit. Funny enough, they have given out more reads on people (even if the reasoning isn't there) then other people. And while I still don't fully understand wtf the reads are on, I don't see or feel a need to lynch him as of now.



Null (no order)

Snickers: Other then the Kush's got killed for talent world, I got nothing majorly wrong with him. He is starting to do stuff, which cleared the activity probs. I had with him back in day 1. And he is actually posting reads and casing. And while his case on me and Skynx is wrong (which I will get to later), He is actually again doing stuff. That said, nothing from him is outstandingly town yet.

Vovo:
One post I really want to talk about.
On July 16 2016 23:19 vorono wrote:
i apologize for lurking and doing nothing, i didn't actually read most pages to be honest shapelog, so i'm going to get engaged with the game now. but it is hard with no avatars next to posts.

tl;dr list of my thoughts:

town: djwasabi, snickers, prplhz, damdred, shapelog
not sure: skynx, kruppe, kelsiersc
scum: empoleon, vivax

+ Show Spoiler +
prplhz push on snickers is done in a townie way even though i disagree.

On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote:
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On July 12 2016 10:38 Damdred wrote:
Hi again finally home with pizza in my stomach.

First thing, it seemed emperor your hype level was a bit high. What did you get out of your conversation with prp anything worthwhile?

@snickers, so we meet again. This time will we once again be at each other's throats or be cordial. As for my part I'm going to try to be cordial and work with you if I think you are town.

Ls ls idk why I make snap judgements on your alignment but I do. Do you want to take a guess at what it is?

Prp well meh, it just depends on what I feel like doing during the game whether I can push a Lynch or not. Put me in a game with Palmar Marv and a few others (people who listen) I can get it done effectively well. Put me in a gamr with someone like rayn I'll get yelled down every time.



Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lol

I think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that.

Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow

this is a scumtell, townreading someone for wifom because he knows that prp is town. it's like, the reason that he gave is actually null and could be used to support prp being either alignment, but he has confbias from knowing that prp is town.

dj wasabi townie for questioning it, damdred also townie #120 is a good point

On July 12 2016 15:00 Skynx wrote:
I'd wait til 2nd half of D1 to read emp.

idk if this is particularly out of place for this site but this reads like unnecessary posturing, why would you even need to say this it achieves nothing

why not read emp in the 1st half of d1 anyway

literally me rn

On July 12 2016 22:39 emperorchampion wrote:
I dunno this guy stinks, but lynch me for generating 3 pages of discussion and starting the game right?

this is terrible and weak-defensive, i was the only one voting him at this point

On July 12 2016 22:40 Shapelog wrote:
Hi Guys!

Mafioso Scum (fake?)Claim for now, till I catch up. Might change it up to a town or higher ranked mafia role (fake?)claim, depending on how the thread makes me feel.

shapelog seems like the kind of guy who would say things like this always to make it difficult to work out his intentions

vivax entrance is... meh

On July 12 2016 23:04 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
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On July 12 2016 22:57 Vivax wrote:
On July 12 2016 19:08 KelsierSC wrote:
Good Morning Everyone,

I've read through the game and have a few town reads to share.

Damdred - I liked his entry and the points he raised about emperor/conversation with DCwasabi seemed excellent. He Seems engaged in the game aswell so he is my top town.

DCWasabi - I've never played with this guy before but his initial problem with emperor's post was quite well though out and I also liked his conversation with damdred so i'd have him as town at the moment.

prplhz So this was strange at first I didn't like his posts about not wanting to lead the town and being happy to sheep anyone. But on further reflection I don't think it is likely that , as a mafia opening, you would come out and say stuff like that. Maybe he said something like it before or does it as either alignment but I don't remember it. I also liked the tone of his responses, sort of unapologetic for what he was saying.

For everyone else I have slight leans either way but I don't have anything that would be a helpful contribution


Why do you have such a strong opinion on Damdy based on what he wrote on emc, but no opinion on emc at all? Doesn't seem logical to me. If his points are excellent you should share his views?


Applause! Applause!

Friend Vivax, you have earned a —certainly one of kruppe's favorites!— chair at Kruppe's table. Such wisdom is unparalleled by anyone other than Kruppe himself.

lol wtf is this he asked some null af early game probing question that is so easily done as either alignment. completely unwarrranted read

On July 12 2016 23:07 Shapelog wrote:
And just gone again.

And he doesn't react to anyone (or LS more to the point) of calling the Emp post Null, despite being around. I would expect someone to at least be questionable about the person who is defending/white knighting someone that they consider scum. Not just ignore it. Then just coming back 2 hours later (if he left, I mean that post came 12 mins after Emp's), and just calling the guy scum again.

yeah i kind of didn't read shit lol.

i don't care if he calls the post null, tone reads are subjective and i'm ok with it.

On July 12 2016 23:18 Vivax wrote:
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On July 12 2016 22:59 LightningStrike wrote:
I don't think KSC knows that Damdred just rolled scum in the most recent game lol. Anyways Vivax once you get fully caught up can I have your thoughts on voro vs emperor?


This comment doesn't really seem relevant? Feels to me like you're avoiding giving a more concrete opinion on KSC even though I might have given you a good reason to.

this is bs doubtcasting, ur scum bro

sounds townie

and eh i can understand why he would dislike my earlier posting.

On July 13 2016 00:44 emperorchampion wrote:
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On July 13 2016 00:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyways I think solving Voro and Emperors alignment wil be key on figuring out the scum team atm.
@Emperor what you make of Voro pushing you atm?


Feels pretty bs/weak so I have a good feeling that he could be scum. Doesn't feel like reaction testing or anything like that so I don't know other reasons

scummy

On July 13 2016 01:15 Vivax wrote:
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On July 13 2016 00:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 13 2016 00:15 Shapelog wrote:
On July 13 2016 00:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 12 2016 23:54 Shapelog wrote:
On July 12 2016 23:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya content wise I didn't have really any problems with Emperor. Can't tell if anything seems forced or not from him. But I think it mostly NAI items atm.
On Voro: Ya he really tunneled on posts that are just NAI I think dunno if it makes him scum or not but it feels like what HF tried to do on me in H O L Y F * * * E Mafia early Day 1.

Well, I also have probs. outside of that.
On July 12 2016 15:45 vorono wrote:
On July 12 2016 15:37 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 12 2016 15:34 vorono wrote:
can someone just explain what it would mean for a townie "to have a name", i'm not really sure what that means.


Ah! A name is a name. Some have many, others have none.

Say, friend (if a friend is what you are), what is your name?

vorono

also you didn't answer the question, i actually don't know what it is and i assume it's something specific to this site

Like, that comes off to me as if he is trying to paint sus. on Kruppe for not answering his question (which he did, but is irreverent to to point anyways)

He just seems to be following/pushing a scum agenda of Finding/pushing ML making others look sus.

Plus, it is so funny that him of all people is complaining about not answering questions.

Ya I see what you talking about but idk I want to se his response to us talking about him.
On July 12 2016 23:56 Shapelog wrote:
But advast,

even in the case that both are scum, we still need a third partner in crime.

Anyone outside of those two rubbing you wrong LS? No one really stood out out when I catched up expect kush, but kush always does.

No one is rubbing me wrong atm.

Tbf, you have talked about him (IIRC, or at least listed questions) about him before this. I would as well tho.

Is your bff read on Damdred still null or watching or whatever it was?
On July 13 2016 00:05 emperorchampion wrote:
I dunno why people keep jumping on this meta train. To re-iterate, I don't think I'm "meta"-ing my read of prpl, like I'm not saying oh in town games he does this and in scum games he does this. Just an observation that he has a different idea of how to approach the game due to past failures.

Well it is technically meta.

Meta is referring to how you know someone plays normally. Now, 1 game shouldn't tell you how he is normally playing (which is some of the prob. that people have stated) but, you do go into the next game with a bias of how they should play, which is basically meta.

In your case, you called his actions different, yet gave him townie points. This is fine, with evidence or reasoning like yours if you prove it, but you still should expect people to question you about it.

Ik what your doing Emp, I did it too. It is why I am not pushing it more, because, I can/have see people like you do it as either alignment.

It not exactly outside of Damdred's scum wheel box yet I do need a little bit more time with him.
On July 13 2016 00:16 Damdred wrote:
Emperor on the surface it is a half meta read from your experience.

But let's leave that for now, can you tell me any other reads or anything at this point? Maybe ls shape?

@LS while I appreciate a healthy amount of fear for my scum game I'm not so sure there is a point in trying to deter everyone from town reading me when I have a decent amount of content for that part of the game. What is your angle in this? What read do you have hidden about me that you haven't shared?

@Shape hi shape

I don't think anything you done is outside of your mafia wheel house atm I do need a little bit of time to figure you out. The KSC read on you were stuff you done last game hence my comment about KSC haven't read your last game.


Wut. The KSC read was about Damdys convo with emc. I think this is mafia LS, too many nervous posts + he's making stuff up here imo.

this post sounds wrong... the "wut" doesn't sound like a scumread, kind of

On July 13 2016 01:24 emperorchampion wrote:
@ Vivax: what do you make of this LS post where he answers his own question?

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On July 12 2016 23:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 12 2016 23:18 Vivax wrote:
On July 12 2016 22:59 LightningStrike wrote:
I don't think KSC knows that Damdred just rolled scum in the most recent game lol. Anyways Vivax once you get fully caught up can I have your thoughts on voro vs emperor?


This comment doesn't really seem relevant? Feels to me like you're avoiding giving a more concrete opinion on KSC even though I might have given you a good reason to.

Whether KSC knows about Damdred rolling scumin the last game doesn't really have much to do with my point. Even if he were to be more careful about reading him as town his opinion that the points are good is there and should influence his read on emc I think.

I gave my opinion on KSC already and called him null in this post:
On July 12 2016 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up now. Kush, KSC, and Snickers are currently null. Kush for saying I here but wanting to talk because he's tired. KSC had only only posted a list post for content wise. Snickers only post was asking if Kush's identity. Dunno how to feel about voro because I seeing it similar to Day 1 of another game with me and Holyflare but holyflare is a et so (shrugs).
@Voro Do you got any other reads you would like to share?

Ya if he knew Damdred just rolled scum in the latest game here I think he would of be more careful about Damdred and might need to question emperor's alignment a bit more.


Maybe it's nothing but it feels weird to me

why would you ask this vivax is already scumreading lightning strike, it makes me think more they could be scum together

shapelog trolling i initially scumread the post in isolation but eh, the rest of his play is pretty townie and i think he just does this kind of thing as either alignment.

On July 13 2016 01:40 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
Kruppe ponders; what happened to the infinite wisdom displayed by true friend Vivax, who is currently —most comfortably— seated at the largest and most illuminated table in the tavern?

Ah, but mayhaps Kruppe already knows. Bard Vivax's song is sonorous and devout, but a song is a poem is a tale. This is merely the beginning of the tale sung by friend Vivax; twists and turns, friends and jubilations, chairs and pastries! What wonders await us, dear friends of Kruppe? Kruppe admits to utter ignorance, solemnly sworn!

"what happened to vivax i expect more content"? kinda meh post after the previous one, he's only focusing on vivax for some reason

On July 13 2016 02:04 emperorchampion wrote:
I think it makes sense to vote voronoi atm, so that's what Im going to do.

##vote vorono

what a stupid and unnecessary qualification for a vote, basically raw opportunism and he has never stated a scumread on me. only in weak / vague terms at least

On July 13 2016 03:03 Vivax wrote:
LS how did you know I was town in the posts after you asked me if my vote on you was a scumclaim?

On July 13 2016 03:13 Vivax wrote:
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On July 13 2016 03:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 13 2016 03:03 Vivax wrote:
LS how did you know I was town in the posts after you asked me if my vote on you was a scumclaim?

I didn't call you town I just said I was going to ignore you.


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On July 13 2016 01:35 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW I am mostly relaxed because Vivax is probably one of the worst players in terms of keeping the same reads over a period of time as he just changes his read every 5 mins.


And you think this is a description of my scum play or my town play?

Your taunts are clearly showing that you were thinking of me as town.

oh god, this is such a fucking terrible "gotcha", fucking awful. this guy is scum i was right

maybe nobody else sees how disgusting this is but it's just so bad. like he set up lightning swift to fall into the trap rather than being transparent about it. it's all for show.

trivial

On July 13 2016 04:23 Vivax wrote:
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On July 13 2016 04:10 LightningStrike wrote:
Fuck you. Fuck you. Oh and fuck you. There is always 1 scum between Boro and emperor that why I said what I said.


Maybe you're right but if you're right then only cause you're mafia with one of them. Otherwise nobody can say that for sure. They didn't both claim the same role or anything like that.

Spamming insults doesn't make you look more town by the way. In Holyflare mafia you didn't do that when under suspicion.

saying "it doesn't make you look more town" shows a disconnect between vivax's opinions and the stances he posts in thread

it is basically acknowledging that lightning sprite obvtowned himself by being insulting (and he did), and shoving it aside.

On July 13 2016 04:50 Damdred wrote:
Idk what the point of this is ls if you are town. Vivax accusations are founded on things that actually happened.

If you disagree explain why he's wrong, you throwing a temper tantrum just kinda reminds me of millionaire at this point. No real reason for rage or the sudden turn in attitude from nobody will ever lynch you to you being an easy ml?

even though it's wrong, in comparison this is actual reasoning for why lightning s could be scum, it's distinct from vivax's post because:
vivax: "oh this doesn't clear you as town btw sorry i can still mislynch you"
damdred: "this is scummy"

(missed a few pages because i closed browser without saving into text file)

i take back everything i said about shapelog, my reasoning was bad and i was reading those posts out of context. i think shapelog is town

On July 13 2016 07:47 Vivax wrote:
Not sure if I should treat LS as modconfirmed town, but I will and otherwise the game is invalid.

i get why he says this but the transition is rather sudden and he seems otherwise unfazed which is scummy after tunneling him so hard

On July 14 2016 07:13 KelsierSC wrote:
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On July 14 2016 07:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
So I'm either scum trying to mind game you by acting too scummy to be scum or I'm town and I don't give a fuck how I look.

What do you think lesser?


don't care I have just hated everything you've posted

vaguely townie

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 15 2016 15:04 Skynx wrote:
Either way, at least one of KSC/Snickers/emp is mafia for sure and I just don't see emperor ever being town here:
Lets go by the facts to start
On July 14 2016 22:51 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 14:24 Skynx wrote:
On July 14 2016 05:35 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 14 2016 05:31 Skynx wrote:
Na man I gotta go sleep, I have to wake up in about 6.5 hours
It's gotta be snickers at this point. Don't let this be a no-lynch emp I have faith in you. Oh and if he comes in and pulls out a sicklucker I might just flip tables tomorrow.


HA, yeah... take 'er easy!

You disappoint me.


I know, I'm sorry

I was going to switch near the end, but I honestly lost track of time

Vote switch happened approx 30 mins to deadline (8:00 being deadline in the timestamp here)
On July 14 2016 07:32 emperorchampion wrote:
##unvote
##vote nnn_thekushmountains

However, he was most certainly here on the deadline. He could, if he wanted switched back to Snickers.
On July 14 2016 08:01 emperorchampion wrote:
Damdy what do you think about kush's scum lean on you?


But anyway, why did he switched votes still? He knows his priorities:
On July 14 2016 06:54 emperorchampion wrote:
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On July 14 2016 06:43 prplhz wrote:
@emperorchampion How do you feel about lynching this Snickers person?


Personally I think that kush would be a better lynch since I didn't like his posts and I've found that snickers is straight up null so far. Like I would expect more from kush even from his low effort games.

kush > snickers > vorono >> no-lynch are my thoughts atm

I guess you meta'd snickers saying that he's active tho?

but yet
On July 14 2016 07:46 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't see anyone :o


All 5 votes on snickers were locked btw, he's never convincing them to switch. So he needs to get absolutely everyone else to switch which very hard at best as Shape/vorono/Kruppe have been away for a while and is anyway impossible since DCW was confirmed not to be there.

He looks like best lynch to me before we get key information on KSC. Snickers flipping either alignment doesn't change much considering other two, where as if one of them is mafia, Snickers is confirmed mafia. If they're not, we're wasting a lynch on Snickers.

i don't think it's as clear-cut as you think it looks

On July 16 2016 00:36 emperorchampion wrote:
So Skynx is town, there's no way mafia makes that post. But you are very wrong about me.

this is comparable to the post he made earlier reading prplhz as town for pure wifom, and also a scumtell

On July 16 2016 03:31 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2016 03:05 Skynx wrote:
On July 16 2016 02:53 prplhz wrote:
On July 16 2016 00:52 emperorchampion wrote:
I don't have a lot of time to play atm since my girlfriends dad is coming to visit this weekend, so there's that

this is a really nice post now please vote for Snickers

Why?


For info, no?

this is objectively the scummiest post in the thread!

On July 16 2016 07:35 Snickers wrote:
Theres no way there is not a fucking scum on me right now. These votes just pile on when

1. there isnt even a fucking case on me.

2. There has only been shitty reasons for voting me. You dont fucking policy lynch someone for inactivity day one. You dont fucking continue to go full tunnel into day two like prp is.

I have a town circle right now of me vivax, slam and dc.

That leaves ec,prp and ksc. I am down to lynch anyone of them today. I am also going to relook at the votes day one that piled on so easily.

ec was scummy day one before the deadline. So even if that was a mistake during the deadline that sucks for him.

IIRC prp has tunneled me and constantly shit up the thread.

ksc I have no clue about.

I also think skynx is scum I will analyze it more and give it a full post


townie post, snickers is town


anyway i ran out of words let's lynch empoleon? ppl are hard townreading vivax which is sad but otherwise i would lynch him

First thing I want to note here, is tone. The "I Apologize...." is much different then from the tone I've seen from him this game. All game, he has display a very aggressive tone, and now is this Apologizing tone.

Next, the 180 on me. It honestly was the first thing I noticed about this post. Was the fact he town read me. The reasoning mostly comes from this:
i take back everything i said about shapelog, my reasoning was bad and i was reading those posts out of context. i think shapelog is town


There a few things to note here. Number 1 being that he most likely ran out of reasons to scum read me. I come to this basically do to the fact that all he was doing was reading(?) the thread/my filter for my posts, and commenting on them. I also refuted his reasoning on why those posts were scum as well.

However. number 2, is that him scum reading me was something I actually liked, even despite how wrong it was at times. What I mean by that, is that I was pretty much town read, and still pretty much TR crossed the board. This is also again noted when he scum reads Vivax, another TR person. I liked it, because it was a really..Whats the word? Odd? Read to push, in the since of ML capacities, and vivax again is another one. Plus, he actually pushed it as well.

It doesn't cover up the fact that those reads where kinda meh to began with. But my thoughts at least.
+ Show Spoiler +
oh god, this is such a fucking terrible "gotcha", fucking awful. this guy is scum i was right

Lol, What goes around, comes around *holds noose*


Then you got the rest of the post, which....I mean at least he talked about the rest of the thread? I honestly cannot follow it too much, because of all the links and stuff, and the jumps between the posts. Jeez, this must be like what it is like to read those thought-connecting posts I do.

Null rn, mainly because I want to see more from him.




Scum leans
Kelp Vote still bothers me, even with explanation. Overall, Nothing amazes me, and quite a few things rubs me in the wrong way. I would put him lower, but I don't have a strong content reasoning (like a few others) to warrant anything lower.

Prp: D2 plan for him is to lynch Kush's list. And seems hell bent on it as well. Pretty much focused on Snickers overall and his lynch. And even defends the other wagonie, to get his wagon on snickers. Outside of that, nothing else strikes me as scummy much, and would just like to hear him comment on anything outside of that. Or even on Snicker's newest posts.



Scum

Honestly, EC was the only person who I strongly Strongly felt like he was scum. See below for details. Honestly, the lack of thread talk is making it hard to read the game overall.



Special Cases:
EC: If it wasn't closed set up, I could honestly be more certain rn about his claim. Some things point to him actually being vet in the post before this, yet, His overall behavior and posts this game makes me really feel like he is scum. I would hate to fucking lynch what could be our vet, but with it being closed, idk what to find to prove him to be said role. I am honestly open to discussion on him. I have no clue if we should do the meta of letting him live 1 before Lylo (which is today right?) or what.

I mean, if he is vet, then it really fucking helps that he is. It elevates him from the lynch pool. I just cannot fig. out how to tell it rn.

Would lynch: anyone in scum land
Wouldn't mind lynching if had to: Anyone in null land
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
July 16 2016 20:13 GMT
#730
On July 17 2016 05:07 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 04:55 Shapelog wrote:
Who's here btw?


I'm in and out between doing shit.

I don't want a no-lynch. \

How long till deadline?

I'd rather Lynch Emp than Snickers, not sure if there are other viable candidates at this point that we can get a majority for.

Can people tell us now if they will be on for deadline?


I be on at least till 1 hour before Deadline.

Pretty much in the same place with the Bold. If we don't have enough people, no sense trying to think of anyone to switch too. No way in hell (unless 4 others come back) can we lynch anyone else.

What do you think of Emp's claim?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 16 2016 20:19 GMT
#731
I'll be here.

We aren't lynching an in cc role dc
And my list isn't really ordered
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
July 16 2016 20:19 GMT
#732
Wonder if Mafia QT has more posts then us by now.
Ik that the OBs qt for that game offsite is like over 10,000 posts by now.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
July 16 2016 20:22 GMT
#733
On July 17 2016 05:19 Damdred wrote:
I'll be here.

We aren't lynching an in cc role dc
And my list isn't really ordered

Can I bez ur best Friend then?

About Emp, Normally I would agree. But A) I am horrible at telling Balance with Masons being in the game, and B) the close set up got me in a loop. Plus, if we ML, and a CC does happen, It is Lylo on those 2 tomorrow (if I did the math correctly)
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
July 16 2016 20:26 GMT
#734
Just in case something happens (since the sky is pretty meh looking right now), I am putting a vote on Snickers, as he is currently the highest voted person, and therefore has the highiest chance of getting voted for.

It places him at 5 btw. I Still will move if someone else I view as scummy pops up there, or a better person in my mind does, but since only 3 people seem to be here (1 being me) I going to go ahead and do it.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
July 16 2016 20:27 GMT
#735
I also Doubt that Onegu will let me live again if I don't vote. And I might already be banned for 1 game, if this isn't 5 games since the warlus lord.

##Vote Snickers
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
July 16 2016 20:29 GMT
#736
Just realized

We need Koshi, for Pages.

Like, every game Koshi is either playing/coaching, the games are pretty big. When not, they are small.

Onegu, Can I merge with Koshi and become a Hydra called Shapshi?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 16 2016 20:31 GMT
#737
On July 17 2016 05:22 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 05:19 Damdred wrote:
I'll be here.

We aren't lynching an in cc role dc
And my list isn't really ordered

Can I bez ur best Friend then?

About Emp, Normally I would agree. But A) I am horrible at telling Balance with Masons being in the game, and B) the close set up got me in a loop. Plus, if we ML, and a CC does happen, It is Lylo on those 2 tomorrow (if I did the math correctly)


Generally speaking Masons are worth like .5 for balance, vets worth one. Another weak role like parity cop is very possible. (A number of like 3 is preferable so .5,.5, 1, 1 would be acceptable in this situation)

In a closed setup the roles aren't that important vet is especially susceptible because how it can't really be confirmed. Which is why we should put it off until tommorow especially if we hit mafia today.

Which I think there is at least one in prp/Kel if not two.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 16 2016 20:34 GMT
#738
I'm here, Damdy and Shape put the hammer down gogo
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
DCWasabi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States368 Posts
July 16 2016 20:37 GMT
#739
On July 17 2016 05:19 Damdred wrote:
I'll be here.

We aren't lynching an in cc role dc
And my list isn't really ordered


We don't know if there is even a veteran in the game though?
"Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana." -Groucho Marx
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
July 16 2016 20:39 GMT
#740
On July 17 2016 05:31 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 05:22 Shapelog wrote:
On July 17 2016 05:19 Damdred wrote:
I'll be here.

We aren't lynching an in cc role dc
And my list isn't really ordered

Can I bez ur best Friend then?

About Emp, Normally I would agree. But A) I am horrible at telling Balance with Masons being in the game, and B) the close set up got me in a loop. Plus, if we ML, and a CC does happen, It is Lylo on those 2 tomorrow (if I did the math correctly)


Generally speaking Masons are worth like .5 for balance, vets worth one. Another weak role like parity cop is very possible. (A number of like 3 is preferable so .5,.5, 1, 1 would be acceptable in this situation)

In a closed setup the roles aren't that important vet is especially susceptible because how it can't really be confirmed. Which is why we should put it off until tommorow especially if we hit mafia today.

Which I think there is at least one in prp/Kel if not two.

I don't like either of them, so if we could lynch them I be happy.

I understand btw now.
On July 17 2016 05:37 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2016 05:19 Damdred wrote:
I'll be here.

We aren't lynching an in cc role dc
And my list isn't really ordered


We don't know if there is even a veteran in the game though?

Yeah, but there should be protection at least, which is what the vet is.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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