well no i'm not saying Kwahamot is town based on his opening post.
But he's just a noob right, got to give him some love and hope he blossoms into a beautiful flower
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On June 08 2016 07:19 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 07:18 KelsierSC wrote: On June 08 2016 07:06 Rels wrote: On June 08 2016 07:02 Shapelog wrote: Moving on On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote: Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all! Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker. Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours. What Introduction? Or is the introduction "Excited to play with you all!"? anyways, First off, how much mafia experience do you have? I just want to know. As of making reads (and catching scum) look at the numerous guides in the forum. They give a nice outline on what to do, even if they are a bit out of date. So moving onto my second question, is anyone standing out to you for any reason at all? + Show Spoiler [funny point] + it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours Funny enough, this is exactly (or close too) what SL said. ##Vote Kwahamot Prepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread. The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum. Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff. Can't agree with this I agree. But can we really disagree with it? well no i'm not saying Kwahamot is town based on his opening post. But he's just a noob right, got to give him some love and hope he blossoms into a beautiful flower | ||
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On June 08 2016 07:20 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 07:19 Koshi wrote: On June 08 2016 07:18 KelsierSC wrote: On June 08 2016 07:06 Rels wrote: On June 08 2016 07:02 Shapelog wrote: Moving on On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote: Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all! Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker. Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours. What Introduction? Or is the introduction "Excited to play with you all!"? anyways, First off, how much mafia experience do you have? I just want to know. As of making reads (and catching scum) look at the numerous guides in the forum. They give a nice outline on what to do, even if they are a bit out of date. So moving onto my second question, is anyone standing out to you for any reason at all? + Show Spoiler [funny point] + it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours Funny enough, this is exactly (or close too) what SL said. ##Vote Kwahamot Prepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread. The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum. Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff. Can't agree with this I agree. But can we really disagree with it? well no i'm not saying Kwahamot is town based on his opening post. But he's just a noob right, got to give him some love and hope he blossoms into a beautiful flower and then if he doesn't post anything just curb stomp him out | ||
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On June 08 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote: Also the guy who said "everybody who posted so far is town"' got a serious scumpoint for making that comment. Everything that was said was pretty shit till up to that point. Giving everybody townreads for that is just more likely mafia not being able to think of something, than a townie actually being happy with how the thread was going. wherebugsgo. He has a massive hard on for Palmar right now Bugs might have a very good read on palmar , which would explain making a bad excuse to vote him and then asking for peoples reads on him afterwards so just waiting to see how that develops. | ||
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On June 08 2016 06:24 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 05:49 wherebugsgo wrote: VE what do you think of Palmar not posting at all? Has he done this recently as town? I not VE but I can answer this: Ya he did this in our last game together in H O L Y F * * * E Mafia at least for the most part of Day 1. I willing to give him a pass for now. LS do you have any scum reads at this point? | ||
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On June 08 2016 07:36 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 07:28 KelsierSC wrote: On June 08 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote: Also the guy who said "everybody who posted so far is town"' got a serious scumpoint for making that comment. Everything that was said was pretty shit till up to that point. Giving everybody townreads for that is just more likely mafia not being able to think of something, than a townie actually being happy with how the thread was going. wherebugsgo. He has a massive hard on for Palmar right now Bugs might have a very good read on palmar , which would explain making a bad excuse to vote him and then asking for peoples reads on him afterwards so just waiting to see how that develops. I have no idea where he is going with that push wherever bugs go | ||
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On June 08 2016 07:37 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 07:36 KelsierSC wrote: On June 08 2016 07:36 Rels wrote: On June 08 2016 07:28 KelsierSC wrote: On June 08 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote: Also the guy who said "everybody who posted so far is town"' got a serious scumpoint for making that comment. Everything that was said was pretty shit till up to that point. Giving everybody townreads for that is just more likely mafia not being able to think of something, than a townie actually being happy with how the thread was going. wherebugsgo. He has a massive hard on for Palmar right now Bugs might have a very good read on palmar , which would explain making a bad excuse to vote him and then asking for peoples reads on him afterwards so just waiting to see how that develops. I have no idea where he is going with that push wherever bugs go We are a great team nailed it | ||
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On June 08 2016 07:44 LightningStrike wrote: Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 07:34 KelsierSC wrote: On June 08 2016 06:24 LightningStrike wrote: On June 08 2016 05:49 wherebugsgo wrote: VE what do you think of Palmar not posting at all? Has he done this recently as town? I not VE but I can answer this: Ya he did this in our last game together in H O L Y F * * * E Mafia at least for the most part of Day 1. I willing to give him a pass for now. LS do you have any scum reads at this point? Mainly Chez I don't remember him being this troll you day 1 as town. fair enough | ||
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Koshi and Rels feel like my town bros at the moment. I've agreed with most of what they've said and how they've said it. not going to lynch either of them. Shapelog, he's said a lot of things. some of which is ok, some of it is bad but he's done more than people who haven't said anything or just said bad things. done enough to get a pass for today. LS - Everyones called him town and yeh for early into d1 he hasn't made me want to throw anything so wont lynch him today. Bugs/Palmar - I agree with something VE said that unlikely both to be mafia so I wanted to see how this played out. wait and see on this. Damdred - Already gave my thoughts , but leaning scum at the moment. everyone else I could probably lynch. Chez and VE have been pretty underwhelming so far but Im likely just rustled by them voting me with no explanation/spongebob sicklucker hasn't done anything except get stupid with shapelog. The newbie is still a newbie and the replacement is still replacing. | ||
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On June 08 2016 08:00 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 05:49 wherebugsgo wrote: VE what do you think of Palmar not posting at all? Has he done this recently as town? I don't really know what Palmar has done frequently as town, though I think he HAS done it as town in recent games I've played with him. It's not enough for me to say I think he's mafia for it, that's for sure. I'd expect more of an agenda actually. I'm now willing to add Shapelog to the townpile and Koshi probably too, though I disagree with his read on Kelsier. I still like killing Kelsier right now, though some of the more potent lurkers are totally gaining on him for my ire. The thing I don't like about Kelsier is how he went from joking around to super srs in one post. Like it's around a period of no one really socializing and everyone kinda getting to business (at least that's what I remember from last night's skim) and what he's posted today hasn't really done much for me the way it has Koshi. Not really sure what's smart about what Kelsier has said that Koshi likes. Anyway, that's what I gots people. Still voting for Kelsier, until the shenannies start happening and people start making actual reasoned accusations. Mine is feels. Deals wit it. The reason I went from "joking around to super srs" is mostly because Shapelog's response to Palmar caught my attention, until that point nothing had really jumped out to me, except bugs push on palmar, which I also commented on...semi seriously. | ||
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On June 08 2016 15:13 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm going to ignore tomahawk for now because he's doing some incredibly stupid things but stupid != scum and I would prefer the certainty of a better lynch over lynching a newbie. ##unvote ##vote Shapelog tl;dr of what follows: I won't be around much in the next 12 hours, but we should kill Shapelog. Shapelog is meek, nonconfrontational, says a lot but doesn't contribute anything, and is suspected by pretty much everyone. Best lynch we'll get today. Details follow. I would ordinarily be annoyed with the number of noncontributors we have but I'm actually pretty happy with the state of my reads of those people who actually have posted. The process of elimination should become easier with a bit more time. With that said, since I probably won't be here to drive the lynch, I propose that we kill Shapelog today. 1. Pretty much everyone in the game has said that they are suspicious of Shape, but only one person has actually voted with those suspicions. This is often an indication that someone is just skating by, a pretty big scum trait, whereas people who very obviously stick out are generally not scum. I'm fairly certain we'd get a good amount of blowback to a lynch effort on Shapelog as well, which would be great, because I seriously doubt that the resistance would make Shapelog look better. 2. Shapelog constantly pratters on and on without seeming to actually contribute anything. Given that Shapelog has like 1/5 of this game's posts, you would think that it would be easy to figure out Shapelog's reads and thoughts on the game with a single read-through of the game. Yet, nothing has stuck out, and I cannot actually recall anything Shapelog has said of substance without going filter diving and detail hunting. 3. I found myself spotting a lot of posts of Shapelog's that are of the "I'm going to do X" or "hi I'm here" kind of thing. The self-focus is very strong, and not something that many townies do. Examples: Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 11:02 Shapelog wrote: Eh I skimmed LS filter and nothing stood out. Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 10:31 Shapelog wrote: Eh fuck it, I can screw around longer. Whats up peeps? Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 07:09 Shapelog wrote: I going to just grab a drink real quick, and try to read him. Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 08:22 Shapelog wrote: On June 08 2016 08:17 sicklucker wrote: On June 08 2016 06:44 Shapelog wrote: Oh yeah I skipped over this post. On June 07 2016 10:11 sicklucker wrote: you ripped my yugioh cards and then backed down Yeah, fuck your blue eyes, Onto more serious matters, nothing is bothering me from you other than your fixation on me and nothing else (might of changed since this post.) You keep coming back and posting just to me, and not towards or on anything else in the thread. You have (remember at the time of this post) not made any apparent reads or thoughts on anyone else. Which kinda rubs me wrong, because that doesn't seem like something town should do. I mean yes, town can get tunneled, but you yourself said it was for bad reason's (me being cute) so you not really dead set in it. After typing it out, it kinda bothers me more. But I think for now I going to actually catch up. i literraly gave a reads list a few posts before this page dumbo Yeah I found it after the Yugi card post the page afterward and posted about it. and, next post, emphasis mine: Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 09:00 Shapelog wrote: I actually check damdred's filter and I am quite shocked that there is nothing hardly there. I would have expected him to do much more than what he currently is doing. He has 2 reads that are based on something (Ls, and Kel) and 2 off the fly reads (me and Palmar) and all of them are town. There is also nothing heavily suggesting that he is looking at people being scum than There are several others i'm curious about but not there yet which is understandable I guess at the time of the post, but when comes back, I would like to know who rubbed him atm. Other than that, I am surprised he has done nothing other than make jokes. He hasn't been on today either to post as well. Wouldn't mind lynching maybe if he doesn't get his shit together. Will now dive another person Note that I could go back and find a dozen other posts with the exact same theme, but the idea here is that Shapelog spends a gigantic amount of time saying things like "I'm going to do X" which are incredibly self-focused and seem to just be intended at convincing the thread that useful things are being done. 4. Both of Shapelog's suspicion posts have been of the form "would not mind lynching", as opposed to the more towny approach of "I think this dude is scum, let me vote him and convince all of the rest of you why we should kill him." Shapelog's approach at least from my perspective has been more in the camp of "let me see what sticks by meekly calling a bunch of different people suspicious and then go with the flow". Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 09:00 Shapelog wrote: I actually check damdred's filter and I am quite shocked that there is nothing hardly there. I would have expected him to do much more than what he currently is doing. He has 2 reads that are based on something (Ls, and Kel) and 2 off the fly reads (me and Palmar) and all of them are town. There is also nothing heavily suggesting that he is looking at people being scum than There are several others i'm curious about but not there yet which is understandable I guess at the time of the post, but when comes back, I would like to know who rubbed him atm. Other than that, I am surprised he has done nothing other than make jokes. He hasn't been on today either to post as well. Wouldn't mind lynching maybe if he doesn't get his shit together. Will now dive another person Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 09:35 Shapelog wrote: Reads -bugs I just do not understand why he is focused so fucking much on Palmar, and nothing else. Infact, the small talk to LS, asking about my games, and Kwah introduction being silly, is all that he has done other than Palmar. 2 of which (LS talk and Kwah) doesn't seem to spark any read from him, and he never read the games to our knowledge. So, most likely he is in love with Palmar, and after the game, will propose to him. Wouldn't mind lynching him, thou other people might be better. Palmar Nothing out of the ordinary. Dead Null, Want Explainations 5. Shapelog has been completely nonconfrontational, meek, and unsure/wishy washy. It seems that players that pressure even slightly will cause Shapelog to give way. Examples: Show nested quote + On June 07 2016 06:36 Shapelog wrote: On June 07 2016 06:33 LightningStrike wrote: On June 07 2016 06:31 Damdred wrote: On June 07 2016 06:26 KelsierSC wrote: On June 07 2016 06:26 Damdred wrote: ##Vote LightningStrike Easy game amazing This amazing sheep could be yours if the price is right. Come on down KEL! Put that vote down where you think is the correct path (pst its sheep damdred thats the game). If you do this wonderful prize will be yours *audience gasps* A TOWN VICTORY! Idk can't tell if serious or trolling me again. You probably are scum if you actually 100% serious with that. Idk, Check Millionaire (cell). I cannot remember how he acted there since it's been awhile, but I somewhat remember him be like this (he was scum.) And I never remember him being this jokey. Though, some of that was with the mayor race so idk. Show nested quote + On June 07 2016 06:43 Shapelog wrote: On June 07 2016 06:36 Shapelog wrote: On June 07 2016 06:33 LightningStrike wrote: On June 07 2016 06:31 Damdred wrote: On June 07 2016 06:26 KelsierSC wrote: On June 07 2016 06:26 Damdred wrote: ##Vote LightningStrike Easy game amazing This amazing sheep could be yours if the price is right. Come on down KEL! Put that vote down where you think is the correct path (pst its sheep damdred thats the game). If you do this wonderful prize will be yours *audience gasps* A TOWN VICTORY! Idk can't tell if serious or trolling me again. You probably are scum if you actually 100% serious with that. Idk, Check Millionaire (cell). I cannot remember how he acted there since it's been awhile, but I somewhat remember him be like this (he was scum.) And I never remember him being this jokey. Though, some of that was with the mayor race so idk. But meh. (what is the point of that post even? it's a self reply!) Show nested quote + On June 07 2016 06:57 Shapelog wrote: On June 07 2016 06:50 LightningStrike wrote: On June 07 2016 06:50 Shapelog wrote: On June 07 2016 06:47 LightningStrike wrote: On June 07 2016 06:44 Shapelog wrote: On June 07 2016 06:42 LightningStrike wrote: On June 07 2016 06:40 Rels wrote: On June 07 2016 06:39 Shapelog wrote: On June 07 2016 06:36 Rels wrote: [quote] Ls is likely town Ksc is maybe town for seeing this right now Hmmm, Nothing really is sticking towards me other than the fact SL just disappear, but that doesn't hold a lot of weight towards finding out his alignment. And he could just be lurking. Prob. check cell and see. Check cell for what reason ? He got paranoia from playing to much plague inc evolved :o I actually have just been playing total war rome 2 for obv. reasons >_>. Suggesting that the Codester would ever play a game with the word "Plague" in it is just to far. And you ruined the joke I was referencing ![]() I mean, I do have a nice rear, but how does that = that? I am so confused. Paranoia is a symptom in that game lol. Ah, well, I am suffering maybe from that because i find it fishy that: On June 07 2016 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote: guys I got it figured out. Everyone who has posted so far is town. ##vote Palmar happens, and 5 mins later On June 07 2016 06:53 Palmar wrote: pls mister president i am innocent. For both their entrance posts. But gumshoe thought people for scum because of the fact they both posted at the same time, and one of them was vig (other town) so meh. Just really coincidental, or offchance planned. I think I could keep going but I think I've said enough to show my point (and I want to see if other people see other things that I did not explicitly mention). If anybody sees anything that causes them to think Shapelog is town, please point it out. There are a couple things that lead me to be a bit unsure but I'd be curious if anyone else notices them. Also if anyone thinks there is a better lynch, please provide one. I'll be around for a couple hours before the lynch is over and I will be able to catch up on the thread and vote but I won't be able to push anything beyond what I'm doing now. This is a really good post. | ||
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On June 08 2016 13:49 Tumblewood wrote: tumblewood esteemed 100% accurate sometimes reads list really town sl koshi sorta town kelsier palmar null ls rels done nothing of note ve kwahamot chezinu scum team damdred shape wbg I think I'm done for the night, and the game. my reads can't get any more 100% correct than this. I've got a couple of questions for you tumble. First one is about palmar and your read list. You have made it clear that you agree with palmar and that your scum reads are like his. I'm curious why you needed to qualify that palmar agrees with you when he didn't give any explanation for his reads. To me your shapelog and damdred reads don't have any weight because your damdred read looks like it is just copied from palmar and shapelog is based on something he already answered ,"high volume low contribution" and because palmar agreed. I guess the question im getting at is a chicken or the egg style. is palmar town because he agrees with your reads, or are you making your reads based on town reading palmar. The second question which ties into the first one is about your scum read of wbg, I don't really understand where this comes from, if you could put specifically what he did that you found scummy that would be great. I will look over the rest of your list at some point but as VE pointed out some of it looks strange. | ||
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On June 08 2016 14:27 Kwahamot wrote: Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 07:06 Rels wrote: On June 08 2016 07:02 Shapelog wrote: Moving on On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote: Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all! Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker. Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours. What Introduction? Or is the introduction "Excited to play with you all!"? anyways, First off, how much mafia experience do you have? I just want to know. As of making reads (and catching scum) look at the numerous guides in the forum. They give a nice outline on what to do, even if they are a bit out of date. So moving onto my second question, is anyone standing out to you for any reason at all? + Show Spoiler [funny point] + it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours Funny enough, this is exactly (or close too) what SL said. ##Vote Kwahamot Prepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread. The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum. Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff. Well how should I put this.. This is a response post! Responding to both Shapelog's original response and Rels' claim. I just wanted to bless the thread with some dry humor. The introduction is the introduction. I made that post and prepared it and I'm making this post right now because I've had a busy start to the game and I wanted to get my thoughts down in one go but I'll address my small portions of inactivity next time. I've briefly skimmed the analysis pinned to be able to make a few day 1 calls. The "excuse" was to put things into perspective perhaps some of you guys expect me to immediately fit like a puzzle into this game. I don't think my reads were all that random by the way and I don't think I'd be helping if I talked about the weather as opposed to my "serious" stuff. At least we're talking about me now right? I think the facilitation of discussion makes your case of being town much stronger actually. Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 07:21 Rels wrote: On June 08 2016 07:17 Koshi wrote: On June 07 2016 06:36 Rels wrote: On June 07 2016 06:34 Shapelog wrote: On June 07 2016 06:32 Rels wrote: On June 07 2016 06:31 Shapelog wrote: On June 07 2016 06:29 Rels wrote: On June 07 2016 06:26 Shapelog wrote: On June 07 2016 06:19 Rels wrote: Yo I drink so I'm drunk That's nice, Why don't we talk so I can gather a read on you, and you can stop me spamming? Is it a serious offer ? Yes. I'm serious. I find your lack of faith most disturbing. Then yes please Anything stick out to you? I know it's super early, but wonder if you spot anything. Ls is likely town Ksc is maybe town for seeing this right now this one. always more likely a townie makes a posts in which he townreads somebody for thinking the same. just looks like a solid post. I was reluctant to comply to your demands but because you are doing things I did as a token of good will. Now that I did it and saw how brilliant my read is I am even happy I did it. PS: your read on kawadude is premature so don't push it too hard because it could very well be completely wrong. Brillant indeed p: My read on tomhahawk might be early but it is quite good. First posts are very revelative for newbies On to my main point and the overdue response to Shapelog, Rels, I believe you are reading backwards. Although I did claim that I don't have the experience to read you guys in the game, I never said I was a newbie and I think you would be fishing a little bit. You haven't really been saying much.. you responded to my introduction and called out the replacement soo heres some pressure ##Vote: Rels Back to Shapelog, the amount of mafia experience? well some amount I guess mostly offline. I lurked a few threads but never really followed one actively lol wtf | ||
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On June 08 2016 13:04 sicklucker wrote: on further review of rels filter ##unvote ##vote rels ok why? | ||
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On June 08 2016 18:14 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 18:12 KelsierSC wrote: Koshi can you explain your SL read, which is the good read he gave? VE you have an opinion on SL? Nha sicklucker can be anything. I was just lazy and didn't change that read from Tumble. Pretty sure I earlier said sl has potential but is null. Rels is town for the reason I gave. sl voting Rels is something I haven't looked into yet. I may be wrong , I often am. But you said he gave a good read and that was it, wouldn't lynch him today. I'm trying to figure him out at the moment. | ||
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Bugs is in my town list now, I liked the post about shapelog, but what I really liked was what he did with LS that whole thing was towny. VE I agree with some things he said, I disagree with others. probably town and wouldn't lynch him today. Damdred - slipped further into scum territory, Shapelog - I liked wbg's post, I also liked what VE said about it so I'm conflicted but he is a lynch candidate for me now. Tumblewood - I have questions outstanding for him which need answering before EOD. But don't like him so far. Kwahamot - not blossoming but withering , coming back with one post calling Rels mafia for calling him out, but qualifying it with "here's some pressure". There doesn't seem to be any inquisitiveness from him. Needs to give some more information before EOD or I would lynch Questionables - Chez, SL, palmar. I don't really like them but don't hate them . I want to narrow my candidates for D1 so wouldn't lynch today. I will be on around EOD and hopefully tumble has answered my questions which will let me make a decision. | ||
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