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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 22 2016 08:46 GMT
#17
/in
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 15:41 GMT
#197
forgot about this, who's mafia?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 15:43 GMT
#198
oh LS is mafia, I read like 10 posts.

##vote LightningStrike
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 16:55 GMT
#205
Pls no lyncherino mr koshi i am innocent
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 19:17 GMT
#263
Ls 100% mafua
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 21:41 GMT
#371
I'm not afk, I've just found mafia so there's that.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 21:43 GMT
#374
is LS, he maf
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 21:44 GMT
#377
On May 25 2016 06:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 06:41 Palmar wrote:
I'm not afk, I've just found mafia so there's that.

That's fine. Then we will lynch LS after you should you flip town.
I think that's a reasonable way to proceed.

okey
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 22:07 GMT
#394
On May 25 2016 07:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 06:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:41 Palmar wrote:
I'm not afk, I've just found mafia so there's that.

That's fine. Then we will lynch LS after you should you flip town.
I think that's a reasonable way to proceed.

Dude I not mafia even if Palmar flips town for whatever reason I not scum. I been pushing my target and trying to get people with some reasoning. Here Palmar never gave his reasoning for why he's scumreading me? Why would you be okay with that notion?

When I flip town you are confirmed mafia. That's life bro.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 22:08 GMT
#395
marv is also confirmed mafia, but that's another story.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 22:10 GMT
#402
On May 25 2016 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 07:07 Palmar wrote:
On May 25 2016 07:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:41 Palmar wrote:
I'm not afk, I've just found mafia so there's that.

That's fine. Then we will lynch LS after you should you flip town.
I think that's a reasonable way to proceed.

Dude I not mafia even if Palmar flips town for whatever reason I not scum. I been pushing my target and trying to get people with some reasoning. Here Palmar never gave his reasoning for why he's scumreading me? Why would you be okay with that notion?

When I flip town you are confirmed mafia. That's life bro.

If you flip town I wont flip mafia that for damn sure. Like what is your reasoning for why am I scum?

I'm town therefore you must be scum.... pls
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 22:11 GMT
#405
On May 25 2016 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly in my history knowing Palmar he would never ever not give his reasoning for why he thinks someone is scum as town. Lynch with fire boys!

100% lie
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 22:12 GMT
#410
On May 25 2016 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 07:10 Palmar wrote:
On May 25 2016 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2016 07:07 Palmar wrote:
On May 25 2016 07:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:41 Palmar wrote:
I'm not afk, I've just found mafia so there's that.

That's fine. Then we will lynch LS after you should you flip town.
I think that's a reasonable way to proceed.

Dude I not mafia even if Palmar flips town for whatever reason I not scum. I been pushing my target and trying to get people with some reasoning. Here Palmar never gave his reasoning for why he's scumreading me? Why would you be okay with that notion?

When I flip town you are confirmed mafia. That's life bro.

If you flip town I wont flip mafia that for damn sure. Like what is your reasoning for why am I scum?

I'm town therefore you must be scum.... pls

Had you read any of my posts that wasn't from the start of the game????????????????????

no
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 22:15 GMT
#414
On May 25 2016 07:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Sigh mods didn't count my vote because it wasn't formatted right.
##Vote: Palmar
Also you should read my filter then Palmar. Like seriously you should see why I am town or scum if you actually read my filter.

I AM A FREE MAN TO DO AS I PLEASE
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 22:39 GMT
#443
On May 25 2016 07:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 07:28 sicklucker wrote:
so who are we lynching koshi im still on page 12

I am thinking one out of Palmar/marv is mafia and 1 is by accident really afk or pretending and the other one is mafia.

i am not afk stop spreading misinformation wow
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 22:40 GMT
#445
I am not pretending to be afk either
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 22:43 GMT
#448
clearly you're pretending that I'm pretending to be afk
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 24 2016 22:44 GMT
#452
btw holyflare said one thing that sounded like mafia
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 12:13 GMT
#543
please am not mafia wow
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 12:15 GMT
#545
Koshi please I am defeated. What are your terms?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 12:24 GMT
#547
holyflare is also mafia
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 12:27 GMT
#548
On May 25 2016 00:14 Superbia wrote:
Ls wutu think of kush?

Will post some thoughts after I get home and have dinner+GoT

Prelude is kush is town


On May 25 2016 00:16 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote Superbia


Who asks what someone thinks of a player and then tells us that he's going to call him town later?


This is such bullshit by holyflare.

Yes, it's dumb from Superbia, but who cares? If Superbia is mafia this is not why. Talking a bit like a dumbass has never been and will never be a scumtell, yet hf jumps it.

clearly 100% mafia no doubts no regrets

##vote Holyflare
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 12:52 GMT
#558
On May 25 2016 21:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
For once I don't want to lynch Palmar.

I would call tmi but recently kush is best player so who knows
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 12:55 GMT
#559
Also LS had way too many confident reads way too early.

But HF is the bigger fish
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 13:26 GMT
#571
btw people why are you not sheeping my case on hf?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 13:33 GMT
#573
On May 25 2016 22:28 Koshi wrote:
ignoring kush due to him being bad

kush good you bad
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 13:46 GMT
#589
I am actually pretty damn certain holyflare is mafia guys
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 13:46 GMT
#591
like this is a true 100% palmar is actually trying read. You should think about it. I even read his filter and it's kinda bad.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 13:53 GMT
#595
On May 25 2016 22:47 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 22:46 Palmar wrote:
I am actually pretty damn certain holyflare is mafia guys


We can't lynch HF day 1 in Holy Flare Mafia.

Let's anyway, it's sort of ironic which is great
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 14:06 GMT
#599
On May 25 2016 22:54 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 22:46 Palmar wrote:
like this is a true 100% palmar is actually trying read. You should think about it. I even read his filter and it's kinda bad.

Your case 100% doesn't make him mafia. His filter is fine, what is kinda bad about it ?

his tone and you're bad
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 14:42 GMT
#611
On May 25 2016 23:10 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 23:06 Palmar wrote:
On May 25 2016 22:54 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 22:46 Palmar wrote:
like this is a true 100% palmar is actually trying read. You should think about it. I even read his filter and it's kinda bad.

Your case 100% doesn't make him mafia. His filter is fine, what is kinda bad about it ?

his tone and you're bad

Vote for marv and I might listen to you

he's mafia so that's fine

but still, hf is scum
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 15:01 GMT
#614
I will consolidate on marv but I really, really think hf is scum.

Like marv might be mafia, sure, but he hasn't done anything objectively scummy and I have a strong feeling he would be fine with being lynched day 1 as town right now (I think he wants to lower expectations of him on day 1 to give him space to play more casually). I don't actually KNOW this is a thing, I just kinda maybe think it is.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 15:21 GMT
#620
On May 26 2016 00:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, I was starting to think palmar is kinda towny but I don't think he can actually believe this.


Did you think this through? I would _never_ lie about this, as either alignment. It's entirely pointless for me to do so.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 16:13 GMT
#632
On May 26 2016 00:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 00:21 Palmar wrote:
On May 26 2016 00:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, I was starting to think palmar is kinda towny but I don't think he can actually believe this.


Did you think this through? I would _never_ lie about this, as either alignment. It's entirely pointless for me to do so.

How?
If marv is town and just screwed by his job and we lynch him you can play the "told you so card" instead of having to answer hiw it is possible for you of all people to mislynch marv.
If marv is mafia there is obvious reason to lynch someone else.

Why would you NEVER lie about that?

he would just correct me. It's not "I told you so" if he comes in and says "actually I do want to maintain high level of activity on day 1, I was just busy".

Anyway this is a dumb argument. You're just bad.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 16:14 GMT
#633
On May 26 2016 00:29 LightningStrike wrote:
JAT can you please lynch Palmar with me? I gave you guys my case on him and I think he should be lynched right now.

I haven't even read your case, but if you wrote one you're either bad or scum. The only case on me that is valid prior to today is "Palmar is afk, let's policy lynch him". If your case was more than 20 words then it's full of shit regardless of your alignment,
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 16:15 GMT
#634
kush is now best player on tl, will sheep if required.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 17:33 GMT
#679
On May 26 2016 02:02 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 00:01 Palmar wrote:
I will consolidate on marv but I really, really think hf is scum.

Like marv might be mafia, sure, but he hasn't done anything objectively scummy and I have a strong feeling he would be fine with being lynched day 1 as town right now (I think he wants to lower expectations of him on day 1 to give him space to play more casually). I don't actually KNOW this is a thing, I just kinda maybe think it is.

Reading snippets while I have a moment. I'm not really so much fine with being lynched as I kinda realise it's inevitable.

I'm not sure why you think with any reasonable certainty at all that I am mafia this game given being veteran and shot last game saved me from bag loads of suspicion as I was inactive and didn't play for most of d1. Granted I had more posts there but I started a new job this week so there we go.

I'd like to call you town but I'm almost loathe to do so as you calling me town last game was a reason you were mafia, but the one thing you quoted on hf was actually quite okay

how did you come away with me thinking you were mafia with reasonable certainty while quoting a post where I state "marv hasn't done anything objectively scummy".

If you're mafia you haven't given yourself away, you might, on the other hand, be policy lynched.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 17:34 GMT
#680
On May 26 2016 02:03 marvellosity wrote:
As I reread your post I realise you don't have certainty. Shhhh

oh pls
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 21:40 GMT
#815
On May 26 2016 05:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I think Rels believed in his meta case on marv 100% and was proud of finding that marv quote and stuff. So when Marv came back acting townie he was too conf biased by his meta case to see it.

I don't even know what kush is talking about but this is an amazingly cool way to think about things so I'm just gonna assume everything he says is right and thus think rels is town.

I am starting to question what happened to old shitty kush. I really like this new kush.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 21:42 GMT
#819
the reason it is cool is that kush is reading into what rels thinks about what rels is saying. Which is something I do all the time ("I don't believe you believe what you're saying").

I'm sticking with killing HF.

LS if you're town it's time to pull head out of butt.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 21:43 GMT
#824
we're not killing marv today either. He has earned another day by saying all the right things.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 21:44 GMT
#828
On May 26 2016 06:44 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 06:42 Palmar wrote:
the reason it is cool is that kush is reading into what rels thinks about what rels is saying. Which is something I do all the time ("I don't believe you believe what you're saying").

I'm sticking with killing HF.

LS if you're town it's time to pull head out of butt.

do you believe Tumble really thinks i'm 'rolling over and dying'? heh.

I have no idea. I don't know enough about Tumble to answer that.

It's objectively dumb, but that's not to say he might not believe it.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 21:47 GMT
#835
On May 26 2016 06:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 06:45 marvellosity wrote:
frankly i'm not letting hf getting away with self-voting and abandoning the game

pretty sure he's done that as mafia

and it's a massive dick move if he's town as well as mafia anyway.

He never done that in games I played vs his scum.

he doesn't do it as town either. He should feel no less shitty about abandoning town than about abandoning a scumteam. Your logic holds no water at all.

He deserves to be lynched today.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 21:48 GMT
#838
We're going to have tremendous success killing Holyflare.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 21:52 GMT
#848
We're going to lynch mafia. We're going to lynch so much mafia you'll get tired of lynching mafia. You'll say "please Palmar, we just can't take it anymore". And I'll say "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep lynching mafia".
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 21:53 GMT
#855
On May 26 2016 06:52 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 06:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Marv is HF flips town can you please lynch Superbia with me then?

what about we lynch marv? and Palmar? And Superbia.

all 3 are mafia.

Shoo koshi bad.

I am no longer your vassal.

I am making TL Mafia great again.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 21:57 GMT
#865
choo choo all aboard the fail train.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 21:57 GMT
#867
You guys realize you're taking lynching advise from someone who has read less than 5% of the game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 21:58 GMT
#869
This is probably the least effort I've had to put into lynching someone on day 1.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 21:59 GMT
#871
I am officially #1 player on TL again if this works.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 22:06 GMT
#878
bitches please

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 22:07 GMT
#881
I might actually be town.

Thanks LS, you're a real bro.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 22:11 GMT
#888
On May 26 2016 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:
I still didn't understand your response to me as to why I was scum or why you called me scum lol.

I never called you mafia
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 22:13 GMT
#892
Koshi might be mafia tbh.

Or at least I want to lynch him for calling me afk trash and shitter and other mean things when in reality glorious leader Palmar delivers mafia head on day 1.

I am also conflicted about whether to trash you all for wanting to lynch me and calling me bad throughout the day, or be impressed by yall for actually taking my lynch advice and getting shit done.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 22:13 GMT
#894
On May 26 2016 07:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 07:11 Palmar wrote:
On May 26 2016 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:
I still didn't understand your response to me as to why I was scum or why you called me scum lol.

I never called you mafia

You kept saying I was 100% scum for a while lol. Not until you decided you would rather lynch HF.

No that never happened.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 22:18 GMT
#901
he didn't know I was town sooner.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 22:19 GMT
#904
yeah I don't really think super is scum. But I might be wrong.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 25 2016 22:39 GMT
#927
this kush is seething with sass
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 06:55 GMT
#1005
I'm 99% sure sicklucker is mafia
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 10:37 GMT
#1027
On May 26 2016 06:57 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 06:57 LightningStrike wrote:
If HF flips town guys I going to be very mad at you guys. If he flips scum I know I will look bad but I not scum.

It's ok bro. If HF is town Palmar, marv and superbia are mafia. 1 can be changed with ritoky.

Koshi should be shot tonight. He's the best vigi shot.

Not because he's necessarily mafia, it's just that he's a liability on town for bads.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 10:39 GMT
#1028
On May 26 2016 01:18 Tumblewood wrote:
Palmar is exceptionally stubborn and useless, even more than jat game

this guy
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 10:41 GMT
#1029
On May 25 2016 22:04 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 22:00 Tumblewood wrote:
Koshi why is rit town

Cuz I can see a town write the words he wrote. If a townie writes a case on a townie it will be false, but it is still a townie who wrote it.

are the flip flops real?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 10:42 GMT
#1030
we'll call him crooked koshi
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 10:58 GMT
#1034
On May 26 2016 02:48 Koshi wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare

reason: It is fucking obvious marv/Palmar and Superbia are mafia. Both fuckers think Superbia is mafia but want to do big plays and lynch Holyflare? And that fucker in response self votes? hahaha.

ggwp. Got to go to event. Should be back before deadline but hopefully I am not.

Crooked koshi manages to wrongly claim that marv and I had shown any signs of thinking Superbia is mafia. Neither of us did.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 11:19 GMT
#1053
On May 26 2016 20:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 19:37 Palmar wrote:
On May 26 2016 06:57 Koshi wrote:
On May 26 2016 06:57 LightningStrike wrote:
If HF flips town guys I going to be very mad at you guys. If he flips scum I know I will look bad but I not scum.

It's ok bro. If HF is town Palmar, marv and superbia are mafia. 1 can be changed with ritoky.

Koshi should be shot tonight. He's the best vigi shot.

Not because he's necessarily mafia, it's just that he's a liability on town for bads.

No, he is not a good vigshot and you know that.

Prior to the replace ritoky was clearly the best vigshot. Now I am not really sure but certainly not koshi.

jat is not amused
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
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May 26 2016 11:20 GMT
#1058
On May 26 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
ritoky and rels still mafia.

I always knew it was either super/marv/palmar or hf/ritoky/+1random dude aka Rels.

At times it just looked more option a.

crooked Koshi calls half the game mafia and tries to claim credit for it.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 11:21 GMT
#1060
On May 26 2016 20:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 20:19 Palmar wrote:
On May 26 2016 20:03 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 26 2016 19:37 Palmar wrote:
On May 26 2016 06:57 Koshi wrote:
On May 26 2016 06:57 LightningStrike wrote:
If HF flips town guys I going to be very mad at you guys. If he flips scum I know I will look bad but I not scum.

It's ok bro. If HF is town Palmar, marv and superbia are mafia. 1 can be changed with ritoky.

Koshi should be shot tonight. He's the best vigi shot.

Not because he's necessarily mafia, it's just that he's a liability on town for bads.

No, he is not a good vigshot and you know that.

Prior to the replace ritoky was clearly the best vigshot. Now I am not really sure but certainly not koshi.

jat is not amused

yep

It's a bad feeling to defend koshi from an accusation like that.

Read the accusation you goddamn robot.

I'm literally saying he should be shot for being bad. Which is very, very clearly at least semi-tounge-in-cheek.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 11:24 GMT
#1063
yall are so bad I'm going to read kush filter because I want to read something that's smart.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 11:26 GMT
#1066
pls
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 11:38 GMT
#1073
On May 26 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
ritoky and rels still mafia.

I always knew it was either super/marv/palmar or hf/ritoky/+1random dude aka Rels.

At times it just looked more option a.


Let's explore!

On May 25 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
damn so many posts. HF might have made some sense. I stopped reading JAT his posts. Too boring. Really. Insane how boring.

I think ritoky is town so I'll entertain his TW read. I am pretty sure ritoky is town btw.

Superbia I'll read later, around D3. I am skipping his posts as well. There is such a big difference in his posting town vs mafia it isn't even funny. And he is posting stuff.


On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)
ritoky town
superbia 100% town
ls townish
hf made some sense and did really retarded shit which he does more as town than mafia

Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Palmar afk
marv afk
Rels afk

JAT superduper boring


others are meh. I don't know about Tumble. Ritoky might have made a point but on the other hand... I can see him be mafia though. But I wouldn't lynch him D1. Cuz he did make a post that made way more sense if he is town over mafia.


On May 25 2016 20:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
I don't particularly understand how you can be so certain of tumblewood being mafia that you completely ditch your evaluation of Superbia looking scummy ritoky.

+1

Please use head ritoky. ritoky town though.


On May 25 2016 20:37 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 20:23 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
ritoky town

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Why ?

1) he said that marv was probably the best lynch. probably being the key word.

2) effort and then more effort when that is obviously not required. + his posts are pretty good, he is just imho wrong on TW. But his posts are quite obviously written by a townie.

3) not answering this one because you clearly didn't bother to read his filter. fuck off.


On May 25 2016 20:47 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 20:44 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:37 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:23 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
ritoky town

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Why ?

1) he said that marv was probably the best lynch. probably being the key word.

2) effort and then more effort when that is obviously not required. + his posts are pretty good, he is just imho wrong on TW. But his posts are quite obviously written by a townie.

3) not answering this one because you clearly didn't bother to read his filter. fuck off.

I have 0 read on kush so I won't fight this.

I disagree with the ritoky's read, he has put himself in a position where he does not need to do anything apart from responding to people. When someone types a code he responds to it. He didn't do anything that wasn't required. I agree his posts are good, he has good points on Tumble, he has good points on Superbia but the conclusion is stupid given his points, his post on SL is kinda useless.

I just read the whole game, it's true he didn't do much recently but the first impression was super good. I understood every thoughts of him and I agreed with his lynch list at the time it was posted.

ritoky obvious town. pls.


On May 25 2016 20:49 Koshi wrote:
1. Holyflare obvious town
2. Damdred obvious trash
3. ritoky obvious town
4. Rels nullish town
5. LightningStrike pretty town
7. Palmar anti town trash
8. marvellosity afk
9. justanothertownie boring turtle
10. sicklucker obvious town
11. Superbia wounded animal
12. Tumblewood obvious town
13. nnn_thekushmountains nullish town


On May 25 2016 22:04 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 22:00 Tumblewood wrote:
Koshi why is rit town

Cuz I can see a town write the words he wrote. If a townie writes a case on a townie it will be false, but it is still a townie who wrote it.


On May 25 2016 22:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
These two quotes are troubling, and could be mafia indicative. They both center around Superbia's meta tell on LS. Firstly he is repeating it (twice) but not indicating what it is, which to some degree I can understand but in another sense makes it more likely fake. Secondly even though it is accurate from his knowledge, he isn't choosing to believe it for a not particularly convincing reason since earlier he was saying that LS was leaning mafia. Thirdly, he desires more from LS to fully form his read.

That last one is the troubling one: "I'm looking for something more" to me implies that Superbia is going to put the screws to or pressure LS for more information so that he can judge if his meta-tell is legitimate or not. So what does Superbia do? Banter with JAT, direct 0 questions or statements toward LS, and generally ignore him after this post. You think he was leaning mafia, you have a meta-tell you are somewhat confident in, and you want more information from LS; so you just ignore him? How is that advancing your read or the game in a meaningful way?

This could be indicative of partners trying to establish a bus for the future. As I said before in my RMC of Tumblewood, I believe that there is almost always a mafia between Tumble and LS due to the timing and over-the-top nature of the reads they gave on eachother; in the event that Tumble is town I think there is a very high likelihood that Superbia is with LS.

Everything here is good. Especially the last paragraph shows clear townie mindset. You might not agree with things like the first sentence in the last paragraph, but I can see a town solving the game write it. And the rest shows that same mindset. Town solving game.


... But then, all of a sudden...

On May 26 2016 04:37 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote ritoky

100% mafia. Defending somebody with false reasons. There are no reasons to think we are fearlynching. But with ritoky showing this much face maybe hf is mafia after all.


On May 26 2016 04:38 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote ritoky


Like I don't know if this is a thing, but once it became clear HF was going to get lynched, crooked koshi did almost a random 180 on ritoky. I have no idea if it means anything, and if anything, what it means...

It's just a weird observation.

Koshi mind works in ways that cannot be logically explained.

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 11:39 GMT
#1074
On May 26 2016 20:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 20:29 sicklucker wrote:
On May 26 2016 20:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 26 2016 20:20 sicklucker wrote:
On May 26 2016 20:16 marvellosity wrote:
On May 26 2016 20:14 sicklucker wrote:
On May 26 2016 20:11 marvellosity wrote:
On May 26 2016 20:01 sicklucker wrote:
Like I get that you lynched mafia and all. but your going after me koshi /tumble the 3 most obvious towns in the game. (hf spewed tumbleweed town..)


you should probably try stopping being shit then


How have i been shit explain?


On May 26 2016 19:53 sicklucker wrote:
jat you can agree that marv can still be mafia. your never absolute on anything. theres no reason hes town. at the very least hes 2/12 mafia


On May 26 2016 06:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1 Votecount

Holyflare (6): Palmar, marvellosity, nnn_thekushmountains, Holyflare, nnn_thekushmountains, justanothertownie, Koshi, Superbia
marvellosity (2): nnn_thekushmountains, Rels, sicklucker, Tumblewood
Superbia (2): Holyflare, Damdred, Rels
ritoky (1): Superbia, Tumblewood, sicklucker, nnn_thekushmountains, Koshi, Koshi
Palmar (1): Koshi, LightningStrike
LightningStrike (0): Holyflare, Damdred, Palmar
justanothertownie (0): Koshi
Tumblewood (0): Holyflare

Not Voting (1): ritoky


Do not forget to format your votes correctly.

Day ends Wednesday, May 25 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
You have to place your votes.


like if you say stuff like that that's so obviously nonsensical, basically everything you written can be totally discounted for coming for someone incapable of basic thought


nice big words. except nothing I have said has been proven wrong. like you can be mafia... you might not be mafia. but you can be mafia. You have not played town I think most people would agree. are you the lynch no. but could you be mafia yes.

So im stupid for saying you could be mafia?

No, you are stupid for saying there is no reason to think he is town.


this vote was a sham. when a scum self votes with 3 votes and gives up with like 2 hours in the day you cant respect the votes. Because we dont know why hf did this. Like he literraly killed himself... maybe palmar lynches him but he was barely trying . I dont respect the vote as evidence. Marv didnt play and sheeped palmar great. thats what he would do as both alignments if he was not trying

See my last post. Also marv has been posting way more than he needed to today already.

And Palmar was not succeeding with lynching HF at all until marv pushed it and began convincing me about it.


This is actually bullshit bro.

You, like kush and other people, voted HF after he self-voted. Marv didn't convince you at all. Marv's reasons were: a) #bigplays and b) "I'm punting palmar is town so I'll sheep him".

I have no idea
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 11:40 GMT
#1075
Like pls guys, at least get your stories straight.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 11:48 GMT
#1079
Which argument of marv, in particular, convinced you jat?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 12:40 GMT
#1118
On May 26 2016 21:17 Koshi wrote:
HF is not the best mafia player because he can emulate every townie thought Rels has. he isn't that good.

HF is definitely top 15 scum player.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 12:40 GMT
#1119
superbia is 100% town maybe
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
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May 26 2016 12:42 GMT
#1122
On May 26 2016 21:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 21:40 Palmar wrote:
superbia is 100% town maybe

Feel free to elaborate at any point in time.

all the baddies think he's mafia, thus you assume they're all wrong.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 12:47 GMT
#1127
wow crooked koshi gives fish alcohol which is posion to them.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 14:10 GMT
#1172
I will not lynch kush, ever.

Even with a red check I will not lynch kush.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 20:44 GMT
#1327
On May 27 2016 05:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Marv is only ever scum with Palmarand I don't think Palmar is scum.

This is of course wrong.

But that's not to say I'm particularly inclined to lynch marv. I think it's more likely he's town right now.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 20:55 GMT
#1330
On May 27 2016 05:45 Vivax wrote:
Palmar/kush/marv/damdred/superbia/rels are my current possible scummers with superbia, damdred as the next best lynches. I dont have a good grasp on rels, palmar, kush atm but of what I read nothing striked me as townie. Will do more stuff tomorrow.

you just disqualified yourself from anyone ever listening to you about anything.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 22:08 GMT
#1349
##vote marv

100% believe in koshi
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
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May 26 2016 22:12 GMT
#1354
On May 27 2016 07:10 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 07:08 Palmar wrote:
##vote marv

100% believe in koshi

Is this trolling or serious?

serious
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 26 2016 23:06 GMT
#1369
only reason anyone would shoot koshi is marv.

If it's not marv, mafia would shoot me or marv.

this makes marv mafia every time.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 27 2016 09:18 GMT
#1458
I'm faking being afk for strategical reasons
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
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May 27 2016 09:50 GMT
#1461
On May 27 2016 18:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 18:18 Palmar wrote:
I'm faking being afk for strategical reasons

Nice. Make sure to keep it a secret though.

I will
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 27 2016 14:52 GMT
#1492
This lynch is going to be a tremendous success.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
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May 27 2016 15:01 GMT
#1496
On May 27 2016 23:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 23:52 Palmar wrote:
This lynch is going to be a tremendous success.

It better be. If it isn't you are next.

If marv flips town we're lynching you for tmi bro
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 28 2016 09:11 GMT
#1599
On May 28 2016 17:50 marvellosity wrote:
Look at what vivax has posted. Jack shit. I was probably 2/2 on day 1 with ritoky and hf, and suspicion all over me because a mafia self voted. The thing that's even more annoying is that if hf flipped town even more people would be suspicious of me but I'd still be town.

Of course I didn't cause hf to be lynched, but he had what, 5 pages of filter in 24h before he gave up? Seems kinda efforty if you're plan is to just give up. Literally the only reason I signed up for this game was to play with an Hf who never had time to play, and the glorious plan we come up with on Skype or whatever is that when hf had one vote from palmar that everyone is totally ignoring, I will vote him, he'll give up and I won't get to play with him at all. It really is genius.

This is how much time I have for mafia now and if I might get lynched when only 2/13 scrubs who were on bloody hf day 1 before he self voted is getting lynched for it, I have no idea how to play in the future and not get lynched when I'm actually wrong about stuff.

I can't wait to flip and then you lot go 'oh yeah, the guy who pushed motherfucking hf on day 1 for no reason was actually town. Pretty fucking obvious in hindsight'

I've not read anything except clicking vivax's filter to see if my vote was still reasonable. Just been woken up and killing some time before I doze off with some bitching, because why not. Enjoy

so hostile
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 28 2016 09:20 GMT
#1602
right. If it wasn't obvious I wasn't really serious about killing marv because of the night kill.

However, his response to it has been uncharacteristic. I honestly have no idea what that means. I could see a world where marv is frustrated by being put under pressure for no good reason at all and just goes fuck it. However it would be a complete first for him that I remember as town.

I don't even know if I can draw the line from "uncharacteristic -> scum". But given how he has responded today, which was mostly very hostile, I also can't make the opposite conclusion.

Like if we assume marv is just normal marv, he must be mafia here, because he would never be this hostile, unproductive as town. I am of course speculating here, but my experience leads me to believe he would have ridiculed or ignored me and spent his time doing at least something useful, however little time that is.

In conclusion, I'm debating myself whether I should stay on lynching marv. I have absolutely 0 faith in the argument I voted him for earlier in the day (the NK one). It feels like a dick move to lynch him like this, because I mostly baited him into becoming mad. On the other hand, if I lose to a marv that doesn't play like a town marv I would be pretty furious at myself. Also, I genuinely believe what I said on day 1 about marv being tired of his meta, so technically maybe it's ok to lynch him as town this one time to open up his doors for being less productive than what we're used to.

I _think_ it's mechanically the right play to kill marv today. He hasn't given us any information and mostly just built a fort from where he calls people bad. No matter how you look at it, marv doesn't sound like town marv. But the problem is I'm not entirely sure he sounds like scum marv either.

In other news, Rels sheeping my fake and bad reasoning in the way he did looks really bad.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 28 2016 09:23 GMT
#1603
that was a long ass post saying nothing but:

[image loading]
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 28 2016 11:46 GMT
#1614
On May 28 2016 19:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 18:20 Palmar wrote:
right. If it wasn't obvious I wasn't really serious about killing marv because of the night kill.

However, his response to it has been uncharacteristic. I honestly have no idea what that means. I could see a world where marv is frustrated by being put under pressure for no good reason at all and just goes fuck it. However it would be a complete first for him that I remember as town.

I don't even know if I can draw the line from "uncharacteristic -> scum". But given how he has responded today, which was mostly very hostile, I also can't make the opposite conclusion.

Like if we assume marv is just normal marv, he must be mafia here, because he would never be this hostile, unproductive as town. I am of course speculating here, but my experience leads me to believe he would have ridiculed or ignored me and spent his time doing at least something useful, however little time that is.

In conclusion, I'm debating myself whether I should stay on lynching marv. I have absolutely 0 faith in the argument I voted him for earlier in the day (the NK one). It feels like a dick move to lynch him like this, because I mostly baited him into becoming mad. On the other hand, if I lose to a marv that doesn't play like a town marv I would be pretty furious at myself. Also, I genuinely believe what I said on day 1 about marv being tired of his meta, so technically maybe it's ok to lynch him as town this one time to open up his doors for being less productive than what we're used to.

I _think_ it's mechanically the right play to kill marv today. He hasn't given us any information and mostly just built a fort from where he calls people bad. No matter how you look at it, marv doesn't sound like town marv. But the problem is I'm not entirely sure he sounds like scum marv either.

In other news, Rels sheeping my fake and bad reasoning in the way he did looks really bad.


Marv is the primary wagon right now based entirely on palmer s*** n K analysis. That alone tells you that he's not Mafia.

Palmar your argument that you want to kill marv because you are afraid to lose to him, I think that is actually the definition of a fear Lynch. I'm sorry jat I didn't realize what a fear Lynch was until I saw palmar do it.

So palmar your reasoning is that plus some shit you admit is null.

I'm going to give you one more chance to see this. It's Damdred


you misunderstand me in almost every possible way. I'll try to explain.

1) MY vote on marv has nothing to do with the NK stuff. I lied that it was a thing, it is not. My vote only remains there due to his reactions to it today.

2) I am not afraid of losing to marv. I've lost to him plenty of times. What I'm "afraid" of, is seeing something that is very, very clearly not townie or expected behavior from marv, and not lynching him for it because of some mechanical play on day 1 by him.

The problem is, I am not certain, but I'm never certain.

His tone and attitude today sounds way off the mark. I personally would not respond like this to being lynched for no reason as town, and I believe, knowing marv fairly well, that he would not respond like this to being lynched as town.

The reason I want to lynch him is pretty clear. His play today does not look, sound or feel like a town marv play.

The reason I'm hesitant is that he's right, he was an early supporter of my HF lynch, and also simply because I like marv and don't want to lynch him for no reason.

I'm trying to look at things objectively, and objectively what has transpired today should make marv mafia.

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 28 2016 11:51 GMT
#1615
like I'm semi-tone-reading him as mafia, and tone reads are always... sort of meh. But if you held a gun to my head and asked me "who is mafia this game" I would probably give you a name list in descending order:

Most mafia

Marv
Rels
sicklucker
JAT
ritoky
Damdred
Tumblewood
Superbia
Kush
LS
Palmar

Least mafia

So I am absolutely lynching my #1 scumread. The problem is I feel like marv has maybe 55% chance of flipping mafia and Superbia 45%. It's a very close and unclear game to me. I am genuinely hoping we'll get some information through blues at some point during this game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 28 2016 12:54 GMT
#1625
On May 28 2016 21:04 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
That list is very wrong.
Red check on Damdred. And framer is dead so I think it's legit.

wait when?

was there a red check on damdy?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 28 2016 22:07 GMT
#1728
Jesus
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 29 2016 10:56 GMT
#1762
Im taking a break today
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 29 2016 16:38 GMT
#1782
My earlier list has been shuffled a bit, but without re-reading I'm not ready to give any kind of a list. I'm still super disappointed marv decided to just fuck off as our investigative role. It's really a bit of a dick move.

Being mad and throwing game/lynches because people do dumb shit in mafia is dumb. It's part of the game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 29 2016 17:20 GMT
#1789
On May 30 2016 01:47 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
is it possible that damdred is lying about being jk?

Its possible but unlikely
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2016 08:38 GMT
#1907
3 blues in a game this size is normal. 4 is too much, 2 is only ok if it's very strong blues.

This means, with kush, marv and damdred claimed, that anyone who is blue should immediately CC. If there is a 4th blue claim, we lynch into the blues.

Any blue claims after today should be autolynched.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2016 08:39 GMT
#1908
##vote sicklucker
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2016 08:44 GMT
#1909
Didn't damdred say "5 people confirmed"?

Because my count is 4 (2 blues + 2 checks).

Also, this vote is mostly temporary. I have for a long time meant to go back to check superbia's holyflare interaction on day 1 but never gotten around to it. I have at least some reason to think all of ritoky/sicklucker/rels might be mafia, but it's not really all that strong at the moment.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2016 12:20 GMT
#1912
I'm not ruling out killing you Superbia, and I'm tempted to let someone other than me run the lynch today.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2016 12:21 GMT
#1913
So you better convince other people than me that you're not scum. I'm not gonna defend you.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2016 12:35 GMT
#1915
not my problem
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 30 2016 15:57 GMT
#1946
you deserve everyone's scumlist rels. You've done some shady shit this game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 08:33 GMT
#2010
So rels, your mafia must then be super/ritoky?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
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May 31 2016 08:36 GMT
#2013
On May 31 2016 17:35 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 17:33 Palmar wrote:
So rels, your mafia must then be super/ritoky?

You.

if you think that I'm just gonna vote you. The rest of the baddies can possibly be explained as you know.... baddies, but you don't get that excuse.

##vote Rels
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
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May 31 2016 08:42 GMT
#2017
So, the reasons to possibly scumread sicklucker are mostly three.

#1: Sometime during early day 1 he called holyflare's play something like "classic mafia" and said he was gonna be an ass about it, he barely did anything that I remember to actually try to lynch holyflare or did he follow up on that in any way.

#2: He keeps trying to define the game in ways that help himself. The first of this is creating some town trifecta with suspiciously much confidence in two random people who seem like they're going to end up being town (tumble and koshi). I noticed this hardcore during night 1. He kept trying to define how everyone should think going forward (who should be scumread, who should be townread from the previous day). Basically it feels like his play was surprisingly proactive/worried given that we had just lynched mafia.

#3: The over the top "I'm mafia" jokes. No one is laughing or paying attention to them. At this point he's just doing it for himself. Either he's super edgy and cool by claiming mafia, or it's an attempt to make it look like he sort of doesn't care or has a nonchalant attitude.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 08:44 GMT
#2018
regarding #2, he's doing it again today (describing some relatively tinfoil long term plans of a possible mafia team). I can't remember if this is a thing sicklucker does, but meeehhhh
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 08:47 GMT
#2020
Regarding Rels.

It's mostly a "I don't wanna believe you're this bad" lynch.

I provided excellent reasons for killing HF on day 1, he resisted them.
I provided awful reasons for killing marv on day 2, he didn't even hesitate.

There's also some other stuff. He actually makes the best reason in the universe to townread me (I would never risk going after marv on day 2 like that. I would always, always, always shoot him or try to maintain amiable relations until such a time I can shoot him). Then he turns around, ignores his own perfect logic and says "it doesn't hold up" to some bullshit reasons as to why some other people are town.

This is literally the best argument in the game, made by himself, and he ignores it.

I am fairly certain Rels is mafia.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 08:48 GMT
#2022
Like everyone knows I am completely unable to convince marv I am town, at best I can remain off his radar for a day or two until such a time I can kill him.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 08:48 GMT
#2023
On May 31 2016 17:48 sicklucker wrote:
point 2 is very explaniable. im better at reading people town then you.

Also theres a point when me and koshi posted the same read in a timespan of 10 seconds. That read was about tumble.

Koshi + sicklucker = tumble town at the same time = the trifecta I made. It was not two towns it was two towns that town read the same town at the same time for the same thing and post


ok I don't think sl is mafia anymore

or well, I'm completely removing sl off the table as a lynch candidate.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 08:49 GMT
#2025
like I sorta want to believe sl is town, because if that is the case, his townplay is getting quite good (not palmar good, but good).
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 09:12 GMT
#2037
On May 31 2016 17:50 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 17:47 Palmar wrote:
Regarding Rels.

It's mostly a "I don't wanna believe you're this bad" lynch.

I provided excellent reasons for killing HF on day 1, he resisted them.
I provided awful reasons for killing marv on day 2, he didn't even hesitate.

There's also some other stuff. He actually makes the best reason in the universe to townread me (I would never risk going after marv on day 2 like that. I would always, always, always shoot him or try to maintain amiable relations until such a time I can shoot him). Then he turns around, ignores his own perfect logic and says "it doesn't hold up" to some bullshit reasons as to why some other people are town.

This is literally the best argument in the game, made by himself, and he ignores it.

I am fairly certain Rels is mafia.

Sry bro, you were caught by POE and setup.
I have no problem getting lynched as long as you're lynched the next day.

okay, deal.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 09:14 GMT
#2038
On May 31 2016 18:05 sicklucker wrote:
and the fact palmar caught super as scum d1 last game and cant seem to do it here is interesting

I am working under the assumption super is going to be lynched. I'm not really going to do anything to stop that, but reading his filter and actually caring about his alignment seems a waste of my time seeing as he's definitely going to be lynched at some point.

As I said directly to him, if he wants to dig out of that hole, I'm not going to help him, and he'll have to convince other people than me.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 14:04 GMT
#2050
On May 31 2016 19:43 Superbia wrote:
I'm not sure how much time I'll actually have today. I'm swamped at work and I'm not sure how much time I'll have this evening. I'll try to leave some thoughts.

I also feel like my lynch has been unfortunately inevitable since d1. Especially now that pretty much all the 'confirmed towns' feel the same way. So unless people specifically ask me to, I won't defend myself. We can discuss certain things in post-game.

if you're town you should defend yourself violently until you're dead.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 14:04 GMT
#2051
To be honest, I had written LS off as town, and I never really paid much attention to tumblewood. In addition I saw several things from kush that I liked early as town so I'm just gonna believe the blues.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 14:05 GMT
#2052
Like I have currently very little reason to challenge the blue things.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 14:05 GMT
#2053
On May 31 2016 19:50 sicklucker wrote:
if you are town theres really no reason to defend your lynch since we have auto anyway. UNLESS you feel two people outside of rels or palmar is mafia. then you should probably say something because that would be 3 mislynches inarow. or if you feel someone fake claimed...

This is of course wrong and bad.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 14:15 GMT
#2056
essentially, here's where I'm at (big picture).

With no 4th claim, I believe the blues. I also believe the checks, or at least I see no reason to immediately discount them.

This means that there's really 4 people I'm looking at.

I have completely ignored vivax/ritoky. The only thing that's noticable is that Vivax has little activity and seems to not be doing the stand-off-ish Vivax thing. In addition ritoky's game in the beginning was boring and bad and nothing came of it which makes it more likely it was facetious.

Rels I am very, very confident is mafia. I have already explained why in big picture. If it was up to me I'd kill him today.

sicklucker I'm slightly more conflicted on. If he's mafia he's borderline trolling the game. Activity and sass (I'm better at townreading people than you (which is of course bs, I'm best)) point to him being town. repeatedly claiming mafia in a boring way and calling the game auto when it really, really isn't, points towards mafia.

superbia I have mostly ignored. I called him 100% town at some point because I sort of felt like he was a consensus shitty lynch that mafia would agree on. I have no idea if he actually is town or scum. If I were a betting man I'd say town because I think it's more likely just because of circumstances and associations, but it's super weak and bad.

I think the correct play today is to lynch Rels, not superbia. I feel like he has done nothing to push the game onward, his reads are inconsistent and he's been supremely useless/bad given how good he is capable of playing.

I might even try to write a case on him tonight, but I can't guarantee I'll have the time.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 14:18 GMT
#2057
On May 31 2016 23:10 sicklucker wrote:
whats wrong about it. godfathers are a thing. if you think one of lightnight strike or tumbleweed are the last mafia after we flip one. by all means go for it

You have played mafia before. People were crying "lol auto" in normal game for jat too and it didn't work out. All it takes is one decently hidden mafia (blue claimer? townie looking non-confirmed? godfather?) to fuck things over.

If there is a hidden mafia, we need time and mislynches to deal with it. Every lynch matters.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 14:19 GMT
#2058
tbh, mafia should support my rels lynch campaign because it'll make me look bad wow such insight.

pls mafia, vote with me.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 15:11 GMT
#2072
On May 31 2016 23:50 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2016 23:15 Palmar wrote:
I think the correct play today is to lynch Rels, not superbia. I feel like he has done nothing to push the game onward, his reads are inconsistent and he's been supremely useless/bad given how good he is capable of playing.

All of this is false, apart from the "reads are inconsistent" bit. But my reads are inconsistent because I'm town. My reads are extremely logical when I'm scum.
Tryhard all you want you're going down.

...

This post just makes you more likely to be mafia. There is no way you would be this sure I am one after that HF lynch. Hell everything I've done logically should make sense to you.

Rels brain:

Palmar wanted to lynch mafia day 1, but I didn't...

Palmar lynched townie day 2 with reasons I liked and sheeped

conclusion: Palmar mafia because I agree with him when he's not more right than I am.




I have no idea man...
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 15:13 GMT
#2074
Like there is no real logical path to reach the conclusion you have

Which means you must be mafia.

I'm sticking with my vote.

Again, I am confident now. This is me trying to win the game. I think Rels is mafia and I think he is the correct lynch.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 19:14 GMT
#2141
don't roleblocks generally resolve simultaneously?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 22:05 GMT
#2189
cool, I was wrong.

Still best player
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 22:12 GMT
#2194
Damdred if you can you should last minute claim jail on someone (assuming you have shots left).
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
May 31 2016 22:14 GMT
#2196
so yeah, there isn't more cop hate. The only tinfoil scenario left now is kush himself is mafia. But I've been townreading him since day 1 so whatever.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 01 2016 08:49 GMT
#2220
yall are about to be taught a lesson in mafia, one way or the other.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 01 2016 11:54 GMT
#2238
tbf replacement analysis means ritoky is mafia.

Idk though
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 01 2016 12:12 GMT
#2240
yes

but if rels is town I have to move him down my internal power rankings.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 01 2016 12:13 GMT
#2241
also, if vivax is mafia, this is the first game in a while where I play classic Palmar.

Day 1: lynch mafia
Rest of game: lynch people who were wrong/disagreed with me/looked at me funny
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 01 2016 12:17 GMT
#2243
On June 01 2016 21:16 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2016 21:12 Palmar wrote:
yes

but if rels is town I have to move him down my internal power rankings.

pleeeeeease don't I don't know if I could live without being in your top 15

You were in top 10, I think you'll be bumped down to maybe 13. But thankfully I'd move sicklucker up to rank 9, which means everything between 10-12 will remain the same, including jat at 11.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 01 2016 13:19 GMT
#2254
marv is like #25 because he taps out like a pussy half of his games.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 01 2016 14:05 GMT
#2260
On June 01 2016 22:33 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2016 22:19 Palmar wrote:
marv is like #25 because he taps out like a pussy half of his games.

Jaleoux man
Marv is #1 'cause he played 15 minutes and nailed 2 scums. You played 30 minutes and nailed one. That's 4 times less efficiency right there

pls marv's reason for thinking hf was mafia was betting on me.

So he gets credit for 1, and I for 1, and someone can take the superbia credit. Everyone else is baddie.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 01 2016 14:15 GMT
#2263
well vivax is still afk and rels is acting like a dick which means he's less likely to be mafia.

So we murder vivax and see what happens.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 01 2016 14:15 GMT
#2264
if vivax is right the only reason this wasn't a 3/3 game is marv is so bad he gets himself lynched
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 01 2016 15:15 GMT
#2268
tbf, what is pretty clear is that marv, koshi and jat were all pretty terrible game. It's good mafia let all the good players live.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 01 2016 15:28 GMT
#2272
On June 02 2016 00:18 Rels wrote:
Can I be above JAT again then

the only thing that's certain is jat is staying at #11
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