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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 13 2016 18:46 GMT
#72
/in
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 13 2016 20:48 GMT
#83
On April 14 2016 03:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
ayyy that's a full game; since it took a while to fill up I'ma send confirmation pms

OWS you're 1 too late would you like to replace?


bleh
Sure I guess.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 13 2016 21:04 GMT
#84
Actually, I'll probably just /obs this game.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 14 2016 03:43 GMT
#88
(If someone misses a confirm I'll /in but otherwise I'm obsing.)
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 14 2016 22:34 GMT
#106
Sup nerds.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 14 2016 23:04 GMT
#109
On April 15 2016 08:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 07:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Sup nerds.


EHRMAHGHERD


\o/
Hi!
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 15 2016 04:24 GMT
#132
On April 15 2016 10:43 gumshoe wrote:
Obiwan if your still here, any thoughts so far?


Nothing overly notable has happened, imo.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 15 2016 04:26 GMT
#133
Well, that's not 100% true. I have two or three tenative townreads atm - you and Gb, possibly Palmar if I'm feeling generous.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 15 2016 05:53 GMT
#142
On April 15 2016 14:34 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 13:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Well, that's not 100% true. I have two or three tenative townreads atm - you and Gb, possibly Palmar if I'm feeling generous.


[image loading]


?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 15 2016 06:00 GMT
#144
You can always replace out and then we don't have to listen to you being annoying.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 15 2016 06:03 GMT
#146
Oh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 15 2016 06:05 GMT
#147
I'm just gonna go to bed then since it's like 2 AM.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 15 2016 15:34 GMT
#252
I think rels is town - a few of the interactions he's had have given me a vibe of natural investment and interest in figuring things out.

Jat also sounds like town but that's all I have on him.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 15 2016 16:13 GMT
#262
I'm worth two players at least.
Finally someone recognizes my brilliance.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 04:47 GMT
#325
I feel fantastic atm.
Hi everyone!
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 04:49 GMT
#326
On April 16 2016 12:40 sicklucker wrote:
I dont lynch new players day one its bad etiquette


It's not like they've done anything to warrant not killing them.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 04:50 GMT
#327
On April 16 2016 13:39 Tumblewood wrote:
And by that I mean your only evidence is Superbia saying "Hey I'm not going to be here" and then not being here. Attributing that to scum burnout is a huge conclusion-leap.


It is not, actually.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 04:54 GMT
#328
Superbia's filter is pretty empty and I wouldn't mind lynching him today.
I'm not sure if he's the type of player to be affected by scum burnout but that does nothing to erase the fact that he's done nothing and is a perfectly acceptable day 1 lynch anyway.

Fazer is also up there. Too many times have I seen newbie scum do things like act all confused and refuse to do anything and have everyone give them a pass.

Rsoultin seems to be a bad lynch simply because her head is in the right place wrt trying to push the thread in a proper direction.

More on the way.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 04:55 GMT
#329
Also, since everyone is just going to lurk and do whatever then I hereby nominate myself town leader and godking of the universe.

You are free to fail to contest my title at any time.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 04:59 GMT
#330
I also decree that I am allowed to lurk at any time, as I probably will be doing at some point for a reasonable period of time tomorrow.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 05:03 GMT
#335
On April 16 2016 14:01 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 13:39 Tumblewood wrote:
And by that I mean your only evidence is Superbia saying "Hey I'm not going to be here" and then not being here. Attributing that to scum burnout is a huge conclusion-leap.


lol you're not wrong. it's mostly an i don't really have anything better thing, which is kinda given away by the "don't know who's scum" comment

like the people i'm REALLY okay with are
rels
gum
you


This is an aceptable list! Except, you know, I'm not on it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 05:04 GMT
#337
On April 16 2016 14:02 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 13:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I feel fantastic atm.
Hi everyone!


this man has been drinking


Nope!
I just got my MTG deck back after someone stole it a month ago.
Feels great.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 05:05 GMT
#340
Actually, SL, do you have any other reads outside of super being mafia? I checked your filter and couldn't find them.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 05:10 GMT
#344
On April 16 2016 14:09 sicklucker wrote:
but even when it is town onegu we should probably lynch him. Its a decent gamble roll the dice!


I'm pretty much always down for backing this but Superbia is undeniably a better target regardless.
##vote superbia
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 05:28 GMT
#357
On April 16 2016 14:11 Tumblewood wrote:
where I'm at right now:

null
most people

don't want to lynch
gumshoe because innocent town
rels because actually trying
ows because actually trying
palmar because in Devil I lynched him day 1 and I never got to play with him

could lynch today
rsoul because all her answers are kind of meh
superbia because AFK; prefer vig shot


Describe "meh" for me, would you?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 05:29 GMT
#358
Oh nevermind, I think you did that already.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 05:32 GMT
#360
Gb is also more underwhelming than I remember.
The only reason I won't throw him high onto my list immediately is because I tunneled him for this kind of behavior once, and he was town.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 05:34 GMT
#364
On April 16 2016 14:31 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 14:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Oh nevermind, I think you did that already.


i'm expected to be superwoman it's okay...i'm coming to terms with it and am trying to take it as a compliment rather than get frustrated at it lol >< you seeing anything i'm not?


There's only like 18 pages, so probably not.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 05:39 GMT
#367
On April 16 2016 14:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 14:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 16 2016 14:31 rsoultin wrote:
On April 16 2016 14:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Oh nevermind, I think you did that already.


i'm expected to be superwoman it's okay...i'm coming to terms with it and am trying to take it as a compliment rather than get frustrated at it lol >< you seeing anything i'm not?


There's only like 18 pages, so probably not.


heh our reads are eerily similar at the moment tbh...the main reason it's not making me twitch is i really, really don't see why you'd choose me to just "have" the same reads as as scum...that would be pretty odd lol


My gameplan is to take you to endgame again.
Seems good.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 05:50 GMT
#369
I don't think there's more that I can add to my current reads than I already have, considering there's so little being done atm.
Tumblewood seems significantly better the more I read him, so that's another guy I'm crossing off my list.

I think I'm going to head to bed and see if people aren't doing stuff tomorrow morning.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 13:18 GMT
#397
Super you might want to explain any/all of those reads.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 13:29 GMT
#398
On April 16 2016 21:48 Palmar wrote:
rsoultin is mafia because she has given way too many reads that sound way too confident.

Let's murder her.


This sounds bad though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 13:40 GMT
#400
On April 16 2016 22:30 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 22:01 Superbia wrote:
Actually GB is meh too. So maybe rso is okay.

This is a complete bullshit reason for thinking something. Superbia is now also a lynch candidate.


?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 18:08 GMT
#442
Palmar being afk and not useful is pretty par for the course at this point tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 18:09 GMT
#443
What else are you thinking outside of "gut?"
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 18:26 GMT
#448
I understood the point you made and was even in the game you're talking about.
I'm simply not that sure on it because, fluff aside, we would be lynching Palmar for being afk and he is always afk.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 20:34 GMT
#515
On April 17 2016 05:09 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 04:52 Rels wrote:
On April 17 2016 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 04:49 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 04:45 Rels wrote:
What changed with Superbia ?


well it's not really a townread tbh more of a i'm not sure what to make of his push on palmar read. i can see him believing what he's saying about palmar, even though i've seen palmar do this before as town (toad, wave in noir, etc) so know he's not necessarily right


actually what that should say is his case is wrong but his read could be right

OK. I get what you mean, it was the only post that looked townie. But he should know Palmar can do that, and even if not it was repeated several times in thread that it is NAI, so it's hard to believe he missed the info.


It might just be a case of there not being a better case / :

we have 3 shitters (onegu, fazzer, sicklicker,) who are basically all coinflips

3 reasonably townie townies(im fairly confident that you and jat are town, judging by your dialogue with one another early on, I also have a good feel about jas based off him attacking tumble early and he seems to pretty involved by this games standards.)

3 players who are kinda meh (gb, rsoul(the whole circumstance of her train is painfully weak) obi(bit less certain bout him then I was of him early as his stuff is pretty shallow right now)

this leaves 3 potential agreed scum prospects, palmer (notable for the gap between his reputation and his actual contribution) tumble (shoddy for the late entry, the fazzer thing, his mild rsoul push and his wierd jas hand toss) and super.

Super obviusly cant attack himself and he probs hasnt noticed tumble which leaves palmer.

So if his case and reasoning is weak, it might just be a result of the game being slow as opposed to him bieng scum trying to come up with contrivances.


You're shallow.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 20:34 GMT
#516
I'm playing mtg so I'll be spacey for a bit.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 20:46 GMT
#531
On April 17 2016 05:35 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 05:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 17 2016 05:09 gumshoe wrote:
On April 17 2016 04:52 Rels wrote:
On April 17 2016 04:50 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 04:49 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 04:45 Rels wrote:
What changed with Superbia ?


well it's not really a townread tbh more of a i'm not sure what to make of his push on palmar read. i can see him believing what he's saying about palmar, even though i've seen palmar do this before as town (toad, wave in noir, etc) so know he's not necessarily right


actually what that should say is his case is wrong but his read could be right

OK. I get what you mean, it was the only post that looked townie. But he should know Palmar can do that, and even if not it was repeated several times in thread that it is NAI, so it's hard to believe he missed the info.


It might just be a case of there not being a better case / :

we have 3 shitters (onegu, fazzer, sicklicker,) who are basically all coinflips

3 reasonably townie townies(im fairly confident that you and jat are town, judging by your dialogue with one another early on, I also have a good feel about jas based off him attacking tumble early and he seems to pretty involved by this games standards.)

3 players who are kinda meh (gb, rsoul(the whole circumstance of her train is painfully weak) obi(bit less certain bout him then I was of him early as his stuff is pretty shallow right now)

this leaves 3 potential agreed scum prospects, palmer (notable for the gap between his reputation and his actual contribution) tumble (shoddy for the late entry, the fazzer thing, his mild rsoul push and his wierd jas hand toss) and super.

Super obviusly cant attack himself and he probs hasnt noticed tumble which leaves palmer.

So if his case and reasoning is weak, it might just be a result of the game being slow as opposed to him bieng scum trying to come up with contrivances.


You're shallow.


YOU TAKE THAT BACK MOTHERFUCKER. I AM A GODAMM OCEAN.


Ok sorry.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 20:49 GMT
#535
On April 17 2016 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
fazers you voted me why did you vote me
palmar why are you voting superbia
rsoul and ows when did you change from TR to SR + Show Spoiler +
actually did ows actually SR me? is he even here?


I did not sr you, ever.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:10 GMT
#560
On April 17 2016 06:04 Tumblewood wrote:
holy shit how is 2/3s of town afk at deadline
ows you're here right? is rels town or scum?


Town.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:17 GMT
#570
On April 17 2016 06:12 Tumblewood wrote:
damn i saw ows's post and i got all excited thinking you were townreading me but nah you just townread rels


I also tr you...
Why are you so obsessed with this?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:22 GMT
#577
Jesus I just looked at the Vc.
The fuck are you people doing?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:23 GMT
#579
Kill the people that aren't showing up and aren't playing.
Tw lynch is bad.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:32 GMT
#598
On April 17 2016 06:24 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 06:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kill the people that aren't showing up and aren't playing.
Tw lynch is bad.

but that's like half the town


If you take it as literal as possible it's either sicklucker or GB.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:35 GMT
#604
On April 17 2016 06:32 Tumblewood wrote:
palmar join forces with me so we can lynch rsoul together
rsoul join forces with me and palmar so we can save time


I don't think rso is scum either, yo.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:37 GMT
#608
Mehhhhhh idk.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:39 GMT
#615
On April 17 2016 06:38 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 06:36 Tumblewood wrote:
i could switch to superbia to save myself but tbh that would probably lead to me getting lynched tomorrow anyway
if rayn is in the obs qt i hope i'm driving him insane right now


... Wow this is actually calling me TMI town.


This sounds like mafia coming up with a lame reason to call someone mafia.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:40 GMT
#617
On April 17 2016 06:39 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 06:36 Tumblewood wrote:
i could switch to superbia to save myself but tbh that would probably lead to me getting lynched tomorrow anyway
if rayn is in the obs qt i hope i'm driving him insane right now

uh... how do you know that it won't just make you the hero and superbia flips mafia?


I interpreted it as simple defeatism.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:43 GMT
#625
On April 17 2016 06:41 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 06:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:38 Superbia wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:36 Tumblewood wrote:
i could switch to superbia to save myself but tbh that would probably lead to me getting lynched tomorrow anyway
if rayn is in the obs qt i hope i'm driving him insane right now


... Wow this is actually calling me TMI town.


This sounds like mafia coming up with a lame reason to call someone mafia.

it's actually sort of legit.

has tumblewood given a hard townread on superbia before?


I don't think so, to either of those things.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:45 GMT
#632
:/
I hate deadline sometimes lmao.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:49 GMT
#644
On April 17 2016 06:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 06:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
:/
I hate deadline sometimes lmao.

Yeah, this sucks. My head hurts and TW doesn't really sound like mafia. I have 0 interest in leading a shennanie wagon right now.


He really doesn't, but what else can we do?
The best I can suggest is a GB/ possibly SL wagon but those are shots in the dark.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:50 GMT
#650
On April 17 2016 06:49 rsoultin wrote:
i think the only one i'd be fine with shennanigans on is gb at this point. i can't see how tw does this as town though, i really can't -_-


If he's actually mafia he did a really good job of hitting all my buttons.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:54 GMT
#667
On April 17 2016 06:52 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 06:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:49 rsoultin wrote:
i think the only one i'd be fine with shennanigans on is gb at this point. i can't see how tw does this as town though, i really can't -_-


If he's actually mafia he did a really good job of hitting all my buttons.


eh i'm not as certain as before but seriously that's not just bad townplay it's...i don't even know what it is

why did you say this?

oh let me make up a reason cause if i don't have one you'll scumread me!

...

i just don't see that coming from town.


I acknowledge that it's not amazing posting but the dude simply doesn't sound like mafia.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:55 GMT
#671
I'm down for yolo'ing onto GB.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:58 GMT
#692
Switched to GB.
We wasted most of today so I wouldn't be surprised if we missed.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 21:59 GMT
#694
Palmar not switching seems par for the course as well.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 22:06 GMT
#705
Before this game happened, I was all "I'm pretty good at finding scum near deadline! I can shenanny and do it right!"

And here I am with egg on my face.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 22:07 GMT
#707
On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/

Should've lynched TW..


Absolutely 1864644568% lynch this person.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 16 2016 22:18 GMT
#733
On April 17 2016 07:17 sicklucker wrote:
looks like we shoulda lynched super like I suggested


Where were you?
>:|
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 17 2016 12:37 GMT
#766
On April 17 2016 21:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 12:57 rsoultin wrote:
reminder to self: verify the sl post

palmar's EoD actually looks pretty decent to me after a review of his filter

On April 17 2016 07:14 Fazers wrote:
On April 17 2016 07:07 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/

Should've lynched TW..

Vig shoot this guy.

SECONDED.


^ this from the guy who doesn't know what to do yada yada is just meh. looks overdone to me tbh. fazers, we don't get hints. some sites might. we don't. if i'm around long enough + Show Spoiler +
and i urge those of you still in the game to do so if i'm not
i will push for your lynch before mylo/lylo if you continue to refuse to participate

it's not about being right. i've said this several times to you. it's about giving us something to read you by. i'd like your best guesses at alignments and why before the night is over

bueno...that's it for tonight i think. reads post later after some more digging

Yeah, the Fazer guy needs to put out content asap. He has his flip, now it is time to do work. Maybe he should die in the night otherwise. Onegu is also still a good shot though.
Depending on some things shape may be scum and
and I give super a chance of at least 50 % to be mafia aswell.


I pretty much agree with all of this.
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April 17 2016 16:30 GMT
#769
On April 18 2016 01:15 Fazers wrote:
why do you guys do this.


Probably because you have no reads and aren't doing anything.
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April 17 2016 21:19 GMT
#816
On April 18 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:
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On April 18 2016 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third

tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading

way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb

personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information

pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar

are all town

still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though

not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo

who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though

shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here


I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim.

This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred.

Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him.



I'm on board with this I think.
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April 17 2016 21:20 GMT
#818
My reads haven't really changed all that much from day phase aside from feeling less certain about TW.
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April 17 2016 21:30 GMT
#824
On April 18 2016 06:24 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 06:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 18 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:
On April 18 2016 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third

tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading

way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb

personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information

pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar

are all town

still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though

not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo

who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though

shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here


I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim.

This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred.

Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him.



I'm on board with this I think.


yeah the reason you're both probably wrong here is simple:

tw's play makes no sense from town. two lynches and the opposite is your scumread you vote your scumread 100% every single time unless you're an idiot. hell even if you're townreading him you should probably do that, but if not at the very least be pushing an opposite lynch

what you guys are saying is that scum couldn't have made a mistake and instead it's more likely that either tumble is doing things that almost never come from town AS town and not voting a scumread OR that he's not voting on town AS scum

i think it's actually really simple and scum just made a mistake here. could i be wrong? sure. i admit it. i really don't think so though, and it makes way more sense then the other two scenarios i just laid out for you


I just agreed with the sentiment that tw and super aren't mafia together, I thought.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 17 2016 22:04 GMT
#864
Hrm.
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April 17 2016 22:26 GMT
#891
Cbf dealing with onegu again.
I'll just vote super unless his claim makes sense.
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April 17 2016 22:33 GMT
#894
On April 18 2016 07:28 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 07:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cbf dealing with onegu again.
I'll just vote super unless his claim makes sense.



I kinda remember a post like this before. I think that game ended with me you and rsoul in lylo...


The game I recall was the game where you tunneled me all game despite me being town and being the only player actually playing.

But you can misremember whatever you want.
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April 18 2016 13:22 GMT
#931
On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote:
riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12


Not like there's much else to do while Super stalls as hard as he can.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 18 2016 15:23 GMT
#945
On April 18 2016 22:25 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 22:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote:
riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12


Not like there's much else to do while Super stalls as hard as he can.

Prob. is, I am using his time to read filters and crap.

What do you think so far OWS? besides super.


I think that you're probably mafia, for one.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 18 2016 15:32 GMT
#959
As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims.
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April 18 2016 15:45 GMT
#967
On April 19 2016 00:42 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims.

While i am waiting,

Idk, Doc is like the only useful role in this game right now. Vig still hasn't claimed, yet he/she is still just a Named VT. Doc on the other hand can potentially rekt scum here, and it would make sense (IMO) for scum to try to make a play to call out a CC from real doc.

Idk the mechs. of FF's docs.


But he's an uncc'd doctor.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 18 2016 15:57 GMT
#969
On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims.


we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do

like, if the real doc (assuming he's not super) had actually successfully made a save last night and we could have three confirmed towns (vig claim + doc + save) and one confirmed mafia (super) then it would be worth claiming, but i honestly don't think the doc should cc here. i mean if he decides to i get it cause confirmed mafia is still good but i at least am lynching super anyway. if most of the rest of the town is, we don't need to give mafia that info


But he's the uncc'd doctor.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 18 2016 15:58 GMT
#970
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.

The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.

This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 18 2016 16:28 GMT
#976
On April 19 2016 01:25 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 01:23 rsoultin wrote:
On April 19 2016 01:14 gumshoe wrote:
On April 19 2016 01:04 rsoultin wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.

The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.

This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim.


i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save

i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims

super/tw/ows <- braglist

super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves

lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/


well see / : if super doesnt flip rb, your double scum day 1 lynch theory falls apart : P


lol yeah i've only ever gotten the entire scumteam before a single mafia flip once, and that was later in the game, but a girl can dream ^^

super and tw (who btw has also gone awol lately) just seem scummy to me independently and it just fits in my head so so well...though i should prob check the voting and see if ows actually fits in that world or not tbh i don't remember where he was voting at eod


oh poo i'm probably wrong :/ ows was on super so that makes it less likely. oh well. i'm way ahead of myself as it is lol


Yeah, I was gonna say something about that.
Vig claiming here is bad simply because there's no point - what does town get out of that aside from one confirmed townie that's practically guaranteed to get shot?
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April 18 2016 16:44 GMT
#977
Like, do we even have any idea who else to lynch outside of the Doctor claim?
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April 18 2016 17:38 GMT
#985
On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.

The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.

This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim.

As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch.


:/
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April 18 2016 17:38 GMT
#987
On April 19 2016 02:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 01:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 19 2016 01:25 rsoultin wrote:
On April 19 2016 01:23 rsoultin wrote:
On April 19 2016 01:14 gumshoe wrote:
On April 19 2016 01:04 rsoultin wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.

The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.

This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim.


i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save

i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims

super/tw/ows <- braglist

super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves

lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/


well see / : if super doesnt flip rb, your double scum day 1 lynch theory falls apart : P


lol yeah i've only ever gotten the entire scumteam before a single mafia flip once, and that was later in the game, but a girl can dream ^^

super and tw (who btw has also gone awol lately) just seem scummy to me independently and it just fits in my head so so well...though i should prob check the voting and see if ows actually fits in that world or not tbh i don't remember where he was voting at eod


oh poo i'm probably wrong :/ ows was on super so that makes it less likely. oh well. i'm way ahead of myself as it is lol


Yeah, I was gonna say something about that.
Vig claiming here is bad simply because there's no point - what does town get out of that aside from one confirmed townie that's practically guaranteed to get shot?


how about one confirmed townie? like are you serious?


Yep!
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April 18 2016 17:39 GMT
#988
On April 19 2016 02:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 02:16 Tumblewood wrote:
It's mid-D2 and I have like 2 townreads what is this
rsoul why is ows scum


mostly cause he's being awful (and not low content kinda normalish ows awful but legit logic awful, and i have a better impression of him than that) maybe mixed with a little paranoia from the last time i played with him when he was scum and i townread him for shit reasons all the way to lylo


>:|
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April 18 2016 17:52 GMT
#1004
On April 19 2016 02:41 Tumblewood wrote:
OWS what is the point of these emoticons
"oh no he felt angry face he must be town"


Go away.
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April 18 2016 17:59 GMT
#1009
On April 19 2016 02:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 02:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 19 2016 02:41 Tumblewood wrote:
OWS what is the point of these emoticons
"oh no he felt angry face he must be town"


Go away.

So emotional. Obi is town.


lol
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April 18 2016 18:11 GMT
#1019
I honestly wouldn't be super opposed to a tw lynch either - the dude just keeps spewing nonsense and he's starting to bug me.
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April 18 2016 18:41 GMT
#1029
On April 19 2016 03:33 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 03:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:15 Tumblewood wrote:
jat is a tw approved townie
rels, jas, and gumshoe are not but are not scumreads either

On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:42 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:40 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:35 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
fazers you voted me why did you vote me
palmar why are you voting superbia
rsoul and ows when did you change from TR to SR + Show Spoiler +
actually did ows actually SR me? is he even here?


this is the only question i can even find in your filter directed at me and should be immensely obvious...and the reason i asked you why you wanted me specifically to give a hard read on fazers' first post was because it's an awfully odd thing to say unless you thought his post was significant somehow

which obviously you couldn't have if you completely "forgot" why you did it in the first place, or are you trying to sell that you're that forgetful?

not trying to sell shit. it's obvious i'm doing my fair share of bsing this game but it's only selling it if i'm trying to say i do that frequently as town, and i usually don't do it as either alignment. after today i'm going to try to not bs because that makes it much harder to evaluate people when they can bs and get away with it
do you need extra reasons to scumread me or what


???

nope i just have the one: you making up shit when questioned on a statement that i found weird in the first place

i mean obviously if you're town here you fucked up hard and shouldn't bs, but most townies don't because there's no reason to. like seriously why would you find the need to make up reasons for saying things?

because it looks bad to not have a reason and i didn't want to dig up some post from five pages ago to defend myself
for the record i wasn't totally lying just wrong + Show Spoiler +
as if that means anything


okay so let's play a game here

you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well

give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them

jat is town
jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD
superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one)
palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone
i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus
sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing
gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing
onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value
ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me
fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub

tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now

If I wasn't your townread yesterday then nobody was. You are just pulling shit out of your ass

nobody was though
no one has actually confirmed themselves as highly likely town in my mind


But you even said I was town in that giant list.

????????
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April 18 2016 20:51 GMT
#1057
On April 19 2016 05:47 Rels wrote:
Onegu needs to die too. 100% useless


#thumbsup
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 18 2016 20:53 GMT
#1059
Guess we're just going to lynch super today.
I can't really complain at this point.
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April 19 2016 01:49 GMT
#1083
On April 19 2016 10:22 gumshoe wrote:
Sick, can I get read a read on obi?


Has anyone actually ever responded to this? You've been asking about me forever and I'm giggling about how often you don't get an answer.
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April 19 2016 02:28 GMT
#1089
I take it you don't get the "I'm an unreadable myth" thing that's going around, do you?
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April 19 2016 02:36 GMT
#1092
We're going to have a problem if I ever end up getting policy vig'd b/c you can't read me.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 19 2016 02:43 GMT
#1098
On April 19 2016 11:38 gumshoe wrote:
you guys are so insynch its amazing,

1 hour ago I posted my initial question

17 minutes later you respond at almost the exact same time after not bieng in thread for hours

then I gloat a bit (at about 23 minutes ago) and then 19 minutes later you respond again within a minute of one another XD this is just the greatest feeling right now T_T I may never feel this cathartic again.





We planned it in our scum QT like a couple of geniuses.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 19 2016 02:50 GMT
#1104
On April 19 2016 11:47 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 11:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 19 2016 11:38 gumshoe wrote:
you guys are so insynch its amazing,

1 hour ago I posted my initial question

17 minutes later you respond at almost the exact same time after not bieng in thread for hours

then I gloat a bit (at about 23 minutes ago) and then 19 minutes later you respond again within a minute of one another XD this is just the greatest feeling right now T_T I may never feel this cathartic again.





We planned it in our scum QT like a couple of geniuses.



you said it : D not me


You're the one implying it.
Which, btw, is dumb.
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April 19 2016 02:55 GMT
#1107
On April 19 2016 11:50 Tumblewood wrote:
OWS please post in exactly 15 minutes so we can sync up


As adorable as this is, I'm not actually interested in spamming up the thread.
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April 19 2016 03:25 GMT
#1112
On April 19 2016 11:57 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 11:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 19 2016 11:47 gumshoe wrote:
On April 19 2016 11:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 19 2016 11:38 gumshoe wrote:
you guys are so insynch its amazing,

1 hour ago I posted my initial question

17 minutes later you respond at almost the exact same time after not bieng in thread for hours

then I gloat a bit (at about 23 minutes ago) and then 19 minutes later you respond again within a minute of one another XD this is just the greatest feeling right now T_T I may never feel this cathartic again.





We planned it in our scum QT like a couple of geniuses.



you said it : D not me


You're the one implying it.
Which, btw, is dumb.


I wasnt implying that you were doing anything clever.

I think your were both hovering over the thread, both saw it around the same time, discussed what to do about it in qt, finished talking and went into thread at the same time, not realizing it would be a good idea to do so at diffrent times.

That doesn't seem so crazy to me / :

the alternative is you both randomely jumped into thread after 5 hours and reacted simultaneously... now THAT seems dumb.


It happens.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
April 19 2016 03:36 GMT
#1117
Fine, be awful.
That's your prerogative.
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April 19 2016 04:12 GMT
#1148
I'm super tempted to townread SL for being the voice of reason here.
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April 19 2016 04:14 GMT
#1151
On April 19 2016 13:13 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 13:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm super tempted to townread SL for being the voice of reason here.


lol i hope you realize how awful that reason for townreading sl would be

maybe not as awful as feeeeeeels

but then again, maybe worse


But it's so tempting though.
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April 19 2016 04:14 GMT
#1152
Don't you think I'm mafia or something? Why do you even care?
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April 19 2016 04:19 GMT
#1162
On April 19 2016 13:17 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 13:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Don't you think I'm mafia or something? Why do you even care?


nah lol i was tinfoiling hard. i'm not sure what you are but if you're mafia it's not for insisting we shouldn't lynch super i was being kinda retarded there

i still don't think i've seen much brilliance from you. i actually am accustomed to seeing it from a town ows even if other people might say differently


Huh.
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April 19 2016 04:29 GMT
#1171
On April 19 2016 13:23 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 13:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 19 2016 13:17 rsoultin wrote:
On April 19 2016 13:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Don't you think I'm mafia or something? Why do you even care?


nah lol i was tinfoiling hard. i'm not sure what you are but if you're mafia it's not for insisting we shouldn't lynch super i was being kinda retarded there

i still don't think i've seen much brilliance from you. i actually am accustomed to seeing it from a town ows even if other people might say differently


Huh.


we're so not on the same page it isn't even funny, and while that's fine, i don't remember seeing a post from you that just made me go oh hey that's smart could be town ^^;


I know.
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April 19 2016 05:21 GMT
#1179
So many walls. Cbf reading any of them.
Someone help.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 19 2016 05:26 GMT
#1184
We're unanimously lynching the claimed doctor.
This is probably the worst play that I've ever seen but what can we do?
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 19 2016 05:42 GMT
#1198
On April 19 2016 14:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
We're unanimously lynching the claimed doctor.
This is probably the worst play that I've ever seen but what can we do?


I say this and he immediately leaves.
Whatever.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 19 2016 14:50 GMT
#1271
On April 19 2016 23:27 Tumblewood wrote:
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On April 19 2016 21:35 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 19 2016 11:37 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 19 2016 07:33 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 19 2016 03:33 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 19 2016 03:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:15 Tumblewood wrote:
jat is a tw approved townie
rels, jas, and gumshoe are not but are not scumreads either

On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:42 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

???

nope i just have the one: you making up shit when questioned on a statement that i found weird in the first place

i mean obviously if you're town here you fucked up hard and shouldn't bs, but most townies don't because there's no reason to. like seriously why would you find the need to make up reasons for saying things?

because it looks bad to not have a reason and i didn't want to dig up some post from five pages ago to defend myself
for the record i wasn't totally lying just wrong + Show Spoiler +
as if that means anything


okay so let's play a game here

you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well

give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them

jat is town
jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD
superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one)
palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone
i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus
sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing
gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing
onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value
ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me
fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub

tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now

If I wasn't your townread yesterday then nobody was. You are just pulling shit out of your ass

nobody was though
no one has actually confirmed themselves as highly likely town in my mind

What's your current reads tumble? Since you got good?

I'll start with you because you asked

Jashape: I wouldn't rule him out but no reason to think he's scum yet. Really hasn't done very much to give me an opinion on him.

JAT: Scum because he's so focused on the two people that he's invariably going to lynch anyway.

SL: He's cocky in the right way, and his curiosity about the vig seems genuine.

Onegu: Since I can't content read someone with so little content, spidey senses say town.

Gumshoe: If he were evaluating how his posts looked about half of what he has would never see the light of day. Since he's not, town.

Superbia: scum

Rsoul: scum

OWS: Town unless I'm being pocketed hard. Would like him to explain why he thinks I'm town.

Rels: His D1 was about how mine would have gone if I were in his situation (and town). You think someone really messed up and is clear scum, you make sure they die no matter what. Inactivity concerns me a little but I'll give him time. Slight townread.

Can you go into more depth about:
Rsoul (just a sentence why you think you find her as scum)
OWS (Same, but why you find him as town)
Anyone else that has changed for you.

Rsoul scumread is fading but still present; I know this because all I can say now is "read pages 1-3 of my filter" because there's no fresh material and I don't remember the old stuff.
OWS town for not jumping on me ever. This will fade, though, unless he says why he's townreading me.
Also feeling better about Rels.


Because you didn't sound like mafia.
I felt like a lot of your frustration/actions near deadline were genuine and left you alone.

There have been a few instances today where I felt your reads evolved in a way a normal townie's would have as well.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 19 2016 15:54 GMT
#1296
On April 20 2016 00:21 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 19 2016 14:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
We're unanimously lynching the claimed doctor.
This is probably the worst play that I've ever seen but what can we do?

You could push someone else instead of keeping it up if you really believe this. What a dumb post.


I've repeatedly said we should get a cc and I've been shot down every single time.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 19 2016 16:00 GMT
#1300
On April 20 2016 00:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 00:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 20 2016 00:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 19 2016 14:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
We're unanimously lynching the claimed doctor.
This is probably the worst play that I've ever seen but what can we do?

You could push someone else instead of keeping it up if you really believe this. What a dumb post.


I've repeatedly said we should get a cc and I've been shot down every single time.

Poor Obi.


Obi sad.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 19 2016 20:11 GMT
#1365
On April 20 2016 03:30 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 20 2016 03:26 Superbia wrote:
Last chances.

No way. If you are town this is on you.


Yeah, seriously.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 19 2016 20:13 GMT
#1366
I've given this day enough thought - super is just going to be lynched and, at this point, I'm perfectly okay with that.

My phone is dying so I'll be sorta lurky until later tonight.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 19 2016 22:01 GMT
#1456
Huh.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 19 2016 22:02 GMT
#1458
Well I feel good about getting on his case early at least.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 19 2016 22:17 GMT
#1475
On April 20 2016 07:03 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 20 2016 07:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Well I feel good about getting on his case early at least.

Good thing we didn't make the medic cc eh?


lmao
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 19 2016 22:19 GMT
#1476
Btw, I think shapelog is scum.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 19 2016 22:21 GMT
#1479
Specifically because his constant questioning feels like so much useless busywork. It feels like he's in the thread for the sake of being in the thread almost every time he talks.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 20 2016 17:03 GMT
#1590
Lurking atm.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 20 2016 17:32 GMT
#1592
On April 21 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 21 2016 02:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Lurking atm.

Thank you for telling us. Noone would have ever noticed.


I'm the silent guardian that TL deserves, but not the one that it needs right now.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 20 2016 22:03 GMT
#1614
The fuck was that shot lmao.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 20 2016 22:31 GMT
#1619
I guess I should claim now.
I'm vigi.

I shot fazers on night 1.

In hindsight I don't think it was a fantastic shot - I just went for the guy playing like lynchbait and got rid of him. I didn't really want us constantly talking about him considering we gave him things to work with and he didn't seem to want to do anything. I waited for a few hours after he showed up in the thread to do something - I tried telling him what he was doing wrong but he just kind of left after that, so I sent the action in.
I guess I could have shot super instead but, you know, PR claim. I'd rather not be the guy that goes for a hero play and takes out the doctor claim on night 1.

I was kinda frustrated that I missed even though I had mafia early but there's nothing to be done about it now. /shrug
Sorry for missing.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 20 2016 22:32 GMT
#1620
Oh, and shapelog is like 3 million percent mafia and needs to die immediately.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 20 2016 22:34 GMT
#1621
I'm off to the gym - I'll be back in a few hours or so.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 20 2016 22:44 GMT
#1626
On April 21 2016 07:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 07:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Oh, and shapelog is like 3 million percent mafia and needs to die immediately.

Do elaborate though.


It mostly has to do with his overemphasis on questioning people on reads and never doing anything with that information - it feels like scum trying to look busy rather than someone trying to accurately judge whether or not someone's reads are founded on anything in thread.

Not to mention that his case on me is nitpicky and bad - lots of fixating on things that are surface level (looking for doctor cc's never really made anyone mafia, but he keeps fixating on it, because ?) and subsequently failing to explain how any of it holds any significance outside of saying the obvious. It reads like scum stalking someone that held a differing opinion.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 20 2016 22:45 GMT
#1627
Jat, I'm literally headed out the door right now but I can pull out quotes and stuff when I get back.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 21 2016 02:20 GMT
#1716
I don't really understand why Onegu is all that angry here?
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 21 2016 02:23 GMT
#1717
I'm also not sure I care about it all that much.
Oh wells - time to filter dive.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
April 21 2016 02:43 GMT
#1718
I can't believe how empty shape's filter is.
I'm looking at it and thinking "dude, what has this guy been doing this whole time?"
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
April 21 2016 03:09 GMT
#1719
A side note while I'm still working on this: Rels is potentially the third scum.

The only reason I don't really want to jump on Onegu is because so many of our current suspects have had him as possible scum. I looked at Jat's lynch list and realized that I couldn't remember what Rels had done all game.

I'll be looking into him as well.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 21 2016 03:17 GMT
#1720
Upon closer inspection Rels seems pretty unlikely.
He picked out a bunch of problematic Superbia posts at times I think scum would be more likely to sweep what he saw under the rug.

Plus I liked a ton of his earlier stuff, so.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 21 2016 03:27 GMT
#1721
Yeah I'm back to thinking Rels is town.
Moving on.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 21 2016 03:58 GMT
#1723
On April 21 2016 12:50 sicklucker wrote:
then its probably jat if its shape. idk onegu is random but just as likely possible. If we lynch like shape he flips scum. We win if we lynch onegu then jat. unless im missing something.

If shape flips i dont think tumbles gonna be mafia


Why Jat, exactly?
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 21 2016 04:08 GMT
#1725
On April 21 2016 13:00 sicklucker wrote:
can we just agree to lynch shape now then so I dont have to be here


I don't know how I feel about this.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
April 21 2016 04:14 GMT
#1726
I mean I'm already voting shape for posting a bad case on me and lollygagging about the entire time he's been in game but it slightly bothers me that you're just going to leave if I say we're lynching shape.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
April 21 2016 16:48 GMT
#1781
On April 22 2016 01:25 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Alright I am here now,

OWS, my normal way of scum hunting is being nick picky in general. It is how I see and process the game. I really can't do much if you had a prob. with why I had sus. on you. I've had them since roughly the middle of the 1st 24 hours of yesterday, and have been asking you why.

Also, Why would I kill Rsoul if I am scum. Ik this is WIFOM, but littirlay she was one of the few who were Town reading me at the time of her death. Also, I am a bus driver, I bus people and have shown that I know how to mutipleit the Vote count to make me look greatly town based off of vote logic (read the mafia qt from Storm, where I voted Rsoul D1, predicting that 3 people would vote for the counter wagon.) I would have come in, voted Super (since the claim, that I would actually know that happen, since he prob. would of told me in the suppose qt) and make up something like "I Had to do this in devil, yet, I was against claiming till I had to, and did not do it last min. That is why I voted super." or something like that.

I will finish catching up, And reread everything. The claim has changed my view, and this is the time that I do best at (being lynched) in terms of looking and catching scum.


I don't believe you.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
April 21 2016 16:49 GMT
#1783
Even if I did I could point to three points in particular where you were questioning people and you dropped it entirely after so little.

You're such a nonentity outside of your terrible push on me that I have a very hard time seeing you as town this game.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 21 2016 16:56 GMT
#1784
I realize I may have to reconsider my read on tumble due to rso's death.

It's such a weird kill to me considering (imo) it was obvious that she wasn't the doctor and didn't really put mafia in a significantly better spot with her out of the way due to more conftown running around.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 06:18 GMT
#1816
I guess SL went inactive for the day.
No skin off my bones.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 06:19 GMT
#1817
I'm also open to the idea of killing Onegu at some point but I'm not sure that should be today.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
April 22 2016 13:30 GMT
#1837
On April 22 2016 17:39 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 17:20 sicklucker wrote:
oh come on hes the most obv town

Really need to look into obi and rels also.


Oh this will be exciting.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 17:11 GMT
#1888
Jat, forgive me if I missed it but who do you have as scum? I'm assuming tumble/SL or some variant thereof, yes?
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 18:52 GMT
#1906
On April 23 2016 02:52 Rels wrote:
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On April 23 2016 02:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Jat, forgive me if I missed it but who do you have as scum? I'm assuming tumble/SL or some variant thereof, yes?

lol we're so lucky you're vig =D


The reason I'm asking is because he said something that made me ultra paranoid.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 18:52 GMT
#1907
On April 23 2016 03:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 02:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Jat, forgive me if I missed it but who do you have as scum? I'm assuming tumble/SL or some variant thereof, yes?

How in the world did you miss that? I want to lynch either shape or tumble. Maybe I could be convinced to kill Onegu.


I just couldn't find the post on my phone, geez.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 19:23 GMT
#1918
I think shape actually looks better in this fight than TW does.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 19:29 GMT
#1923
On April 23 2016 04:28 Onegu wrote:
I think I would rather kill Tumble here. Sheeping Rsoul seems like a plan... Shape has looked ok in these last few posts...

##Unvote

##Vote: JustanotherScummer


Uhm?
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 19:30 GMT
#1926
On April 23 2016 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 23 2016 04:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I think shape actually looks better in this fight than TW does.

Yes he does. Because nothing tumble says has ever any reasoning behind it.


I know - it's really starting to aggravate me.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 20:44 GMT
#1951
On April 23 2016 05:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Shape I want you to make a case on tumble. A readable summary why you think he is mafia.


Yes pls.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 20:54 GMT
#1952
On April 23 2016 05:42 gumshoe wrote:
Fuck it, strategically onegu is today's best lynch. Jas may very well be getting bussed now. But I doubt that was the case at the games start, that doesn't apply to onegu. We need to know what he is now while we can still afford the hit.



## unvote

##vote onegu


Y'all can vote what you want, im staying on this guy.


Btw, this is sounding more and more like a good idea.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 21:26 GMT
#1966
:|
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 21:29 GMT
#1972
On April 23 2016 06:28 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 23 2016 06:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
:|

How about you tell us what to do today? :D
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On April 16 2016 13:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also, since everyone is just going to lurk and do whatever then I hereby nominate myself town leader and godking of the universe.

You are free to fail to contest my title at any time.



Lmao.
I'd say so if I had a clue.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 21:30 GMT
#1973
On April 23 2016 06:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Since obviously noone dares to contest your title.


Much sassy.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 21:32 GMT
#1975
Like, the main thing that bugs me about the onegu/gumshoe fight is that gumshoe has spewed garbage almost all game and is widely townread for it.
Onegu is right but does that really make gumshoe scum?
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 21:34 GMT
#1981
I also don't think the points shape is raising on tumble are very good.
They all seem sorta nitpicky and bad.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 21:36 GMT
#1986
I think I have to stay on shape tbh.
I just don't feel strongly about anything he's posted wrt any of his lynch targets and it seems like he's just grasping at whatever.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 21:38 GMT
#1989
I'm going to feel so bad in post game if tumble is scum and I let him go another day but this is where I'm at.

Sorry if wrong.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 22 2016 21:39 GMT
#1991
On April 23 2016 06:37 justanothertownie wrote:
The thing is there are reasons to lynch all 3 of them and I really can't be arsed to decide.

I read tumbles filter and skimmed most of his other games. If I had to choose it looks a little more like his scumgame but tbh. it doesn't really look similar to any game he played and he has a way longer filter than ever before. I still liked the way he approached being lynched day1 minus the thing about not lynching his counterwagon which I think is the strongest argument for him to be mafia by far.
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 05:12 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:25 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 03:24 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 12:47 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
[quote]
because it looks bad to not have a reason and i didn't want to dig up some post from five pages ago to defend myself
for the record i wasn't totally lying just wrong + Show Spoiler +
as if that means anything


okay so let's play a game here

you want me to treat you as confirmed town until your flip, then i want you to treat me as confirmed town as well

give me your other reads, with reasoning, and what questions you want me to answer that i've asked you for like 5 times already if you really want me to answer them

jat is town
jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD
superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one)
palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone
i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus
sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing
gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing
onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value
ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me
fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub

tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now



@tumble...super maybe scum=no vote as alternate wagon...gb exactly null=vote as alternate wagon

care to explain?

I was afraid of voting Superbia and him flipping green (not as a likelihood thing, but if he did I forecast my own mislynch for the next day). GB lynch happened at a point where several more townies had come out and defended me and attacked Superbia, so it felt, in a way, less risky.


-squints at- i don't really understand this explanation

what is the difference between you being lynched d1 or d2? until gb ninja-voted he was prob not getting lynched over super, yet you were still voting yourself because you were worried you'd be lynched d2 if super flipped town? so d1 is okay but not d2?

explain the bolded like i'm 5. what is the significance of when the gb lynch happened and how was that less risky?

Because at that point it was clear that voting a counterwagon was the difference between dying and surviving instead of dying d1 and dying d2.
Of course, it turned out GB would have died without my help, but it still seemed up in the air at the time.


why?

when superbia was the counterwagon i thought i would for sure be lynched at some point
when gb was the counterwagon it became apparent that maybe i wouldn't be lynched

Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 05:37 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 05:23 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 05:12 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:25 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 04:06 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 03:24 rsoultin wrote:
On April 18 2016 01:57 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 17 2016 12:47 rsoultin wrote:
On April 17 2016 06:51 Tumblewood wrote:
[quote]
jat is town
jas is ??? but should be more apparent after he says who he is; giving him BotD
superbia is maybe scum (i have no good reasons on this one)
palmar is null because he's not really out of his comfort zone
i want to call rels and gumshoe scummy but that's mostly omgus
sl is a 49 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saaying one slightly scummy thing
gb is a 50 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing
onegu is a 51 out of 100 on the mafia scale for being inactive and saying nothing of value
ows is town because i like how he continued to townread me
fazers is scummy but also new so maybe just a scrub

tbh my reads are all based on spidey senses right now



@tumble...super maybe scum=no vote as alternate wagon...gb exactly null=vote as alternate wagon

care to explain?

I was afraid of voting Superbia and him flipping green (not as a likelihood thing, but if he did I forecast my own mislynch for the next day). GB lynch happened at a point where several more townies had come out and defended me and attacked Superbia, so it felt, in a way, less risky.


-squints at- i don't really understand this explanation

what is the difference between you being lynched d1 or d2? until gb ninja-voted he was prob not getting lynched over super, yet you were still voting yourself because you were worried you'd be lynched d2 if super flipped town? so d1 is okay but not d2?

explain the bolded like i'm 5. what is the significance of when the gb lynch happened and how was that less risky?

Because at that point it was clear that voting a counterwagon was the difference between dying and surviving instead of dying d1 and dying d2.
Of course, it turned out GB would have died without my help, but it still seemed up in the air at the time.


why?

when superbia was the counterwagon i thought i would for sure be lynched at some point
when gb was the counterwagon it became apparent that maybe i wouldn't be lynched


okay, so honestly, you're just really confusing me here. like you're not making sense and my first instinct is that should be scum but i think even scum would make more sense here, so i must just not be understanding @.@

it's as simple as...the wagons are between super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote super

then

the wagons are between gb, super and myself. if i want to live i need to vote one of them

why would your scumread flipping town be worse than your null read flipping town?

nononono
when super was the counterwagon it wasn't "if i want to live i need to vote super", it was "if i don't vote super i die d1 if i vote super i die d2"
then everyone left super for gb and people simultaneously said that i was town, so it became "if i don't vote gb i die d1 if i vote gb i don't die"
like i got so entrenched in thinking i was going to die that i didn't even see superbia as a survival wagon, just a delay death wagon

Those 2 posts just don't make any sense to me at all. And considering this post from Storm:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2016 06:52 Tumblewood wrote:
I think LS is an iffy lynch but I will go there to save myself.

One would really expect him to vote for his counterwagon. ESPECIALLY since he was scumreading it this time. Oh, and obviously he thinks supers claim was really shitty so even more reason to do so:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 02:35 Tumblewood wrote:
oh see
even as I was typing this
attacking superbia's shitty claim
there is no easier thing to object to

Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 05:41 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 18 2016 05:25 Superbia wrote:
If I'm the vigi I'm shooting Palmar.

If I'm the doctor I'm saving Gumshoe.


Yolo.

wow good to know that you're actually not "actually not blue but VT fakeclaiming" but blue not claiming
if palmar dies superbia is conftown
if superbia dies superbia is dead and flipped
if both survive superbia is 99% scum and palmar is whatever
ezpz

This post is actually pretty weird if you consider that Palmar really died in the night. Maybe gumshoe was right and scum really did plan some retarded shit with the claim. Seems far fetched but who knows.


I know. :/
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 22 2016 21:55 GMT
#2012
On April 23 2016 06:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Last chance to convince me to vote someone else. I am not at all certain about this.

Looking at Obi here.


I'm not certain either lmao.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 22 2016 21:56 GMT
#2016
On April 23 2016 06:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Obi man. If you want me to sheep you I will. If you pussy out I will sheep rsoultin/(rels) instead.


Screw it - I'm sticking to my read.
I've been reasonably solid and I'm going to stay where I'm at.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 22 2016 21:57 GMT
#2019
On April 23 2016 06:56 Tumblewood wrote:
and you wanna know the real shitty reason i voted super


Huh?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 22 2016 21:57 GMT
#2020
On April 23 2016 06:57 Tumblewood wrote:
shape said "tumble did't vote for survival" and i felt like if i switched he would just yell at me for onlyswitching then


Oh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 22 2016 21:57 GMT
#2022
Staying on shape.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 22 2016 22:06 GMT
#2037
Man.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 22 2016 22:07 GMT
#2038
That's the second time I've mislynched that guy.
Lame.

:/
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 22 2016 22:08 GMT
#2040
On April 23 2016 06:58 Tumblewood wrote:
but he took it so out of context that ihe ignored the plan
gotta suicide for those informations
and i have the informations now
kill shape
kill onegu
thank you


What exactly did you mean by this?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 22 2016 22:54 GMT
#2064
Jat facts, trademarked by TL.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 23 2016 19:21 GMT
#2245
Hi!
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 23 2016 21:12 GMT
#2267
I'm holding onto my reads.
If I die, fine.

I'll post something right before eon even though it might be phone posted and rushed.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 23 2016 22:00 GMT
#2285
I was a fraction of a second late on my reads post. Sorry.

Tumble should likely be today's lynch.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 23 2016 22:01 GMT
#2286
Wait, what?
SL has been softing medic literally all game.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 23 2016 22:19 GMT
#2296
On April 24 2016 07:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 07:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Wait, what?
SL has been softing medic literally all game.

Yeah, and so obvious that noone would ever believe it. Do you believe him as mafia when he starts pushing this thought more and more during the night? So dumb.
Unfortunetely gumshoe softed too when the question about the medic was clarified by the host.


Bleh. I didn't even notice gumshoe softing.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 23 2016 22:25 GMT
#2299
I may just up and try to kill onegu today.
Seems decent enough.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 23 2016 23:58 GMT
#2302
On April 24 2016 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Seems rather silly for Onegu to attack only gumshoe and then shooting him though. meh


Yeah well he still needs something better than what he's got now, IE nothing.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
April 24 2016 14:51 GMT
#2305
Anyone here?
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
April 24 2016 15:44 GMT
#2307
On April 25 2016 00:21 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 23:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Anyone here?

Yes, now I am.


Cool.
Do we actually have any reason to leave Onegu alone today?
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
April 24 2016 16:02 GMT
#2310
On April 25 2016 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 00:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 25 2016 00:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Anyone here?

Yes, now I am.


Cool.
Do we actually have any reason to leave Onegu alone today?

Working on it. So far nope. But you should still put in a little effort - you are the laziest confirmed town since coag.
:p


It's not like it takes a wall to recall what happened in this game so far.
Onegu has no reads going into lylo, voted rso day 1 for terrible reasons and has no interest in doing anything regarding figuring this game out.

I could wall up and be all fancy and junk, but the reality is that there's no point.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 24 2016 16:04 GMT
#2313
I will concede that I've been writing tumble off because he sounded like lynchbait every single time he talked - I've been in that position so many times that it's like "hey, he's just like me!" but the rso kill probably points to tumble more than anything else aside from him not voting super to save himself.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 24 2016 16:04 GMT
#2315
On April 25 2016 01:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 01:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 25 2016 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 25 2016 00:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 25 2016 00:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Anyone here?

Yes, now I am.


Cool.
Do we actually have any reason to leave Onegu alone today?

Working on it. So far nope. But you should still put in a little effort - you are the laziest confirmed town since coag.
:p


It's not like it takes a wall to recall what happened in this game so far.
Onegu has no reads going into lylo, voted rso day 1 for terrible reasons and has no interest in doing anything regarding figuring this game out.

I could wall up and be all fancy and junk, but the reality is that there's no point.

Then look for mafia nr 2.


Still probably tumble.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 24 2016 16:09 GMT
#2317
On April 25 2016 01:07 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 01:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 25 2016 01:03 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 25 2016 01:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 25 2016 00:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 25 2016 00:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 25 2016 00:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 24 2016 23:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Anyone here?

Yes, now I am.


Cool.
Do we actually have any reason to leave Onegu alone today?

Working on it. So far nope. But you should still put in a little effort - you are the laziest confirmed town since coag.
:p


It's not like it takes a wall to recall what happened in this game so far.
Onegu has no reads going into lylo, voted rso day 1 for terrible reasons and has no interest in doing anything regarding figuring this game out.

I could wall up and be all fancy and junk, but the reality is that there's no point.

Then look for mafia nr 2.


Still probably tumble.

The only really dangerous world I see would be SL and Rels. I seriously hope that's just not the case.


I'm already filter diving SL considering this is the worst possible scenario for us.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 24 2016 16:14 GMT
#2321
On April 25 2016 01:09 justanothertownie wrote:
I am still wondering what the day1 stuff means. Was mafia just praying we would start something so save super once he fakeclaimed? Because only town did anything about it.
Maybe gumshoe was right about the tumble thing.

What do you make of it?


I completely forgot what gumshoe said about it.
I'll double check.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 24 2016 16:55 GMT
#2323
On April 25 2016 01:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 01:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 25 2016 01:09 justanothertownie wrote:
I am still wondering what the day1 stuff means. Was mafia just praying we would start something so save super once he fakeclaimed? Because only town did anything about it.
Maybe gumshoe was right about the tumble thing.

What do you make of it?


I completely forgot what gumshoe said about it.
I'll double check.

Gumshoe said Tumble could never be mafia because if super fakeclaimed tumble would be lynched and they sacrificed 2 mafia at once. But I didn't mean his reasoning because I still don't really agree with it.

It seems to me like there is some logic to either prove tumble is town or mafia from the day1 vc. I just don't really see it so far. Not enough coffee maybe.


Oh right! I remember that now.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 24 2016 16:57 GMT
#2325
Oh btw, for anyone that feels like lurking it out until deadline:
I'm not going to be here from 4 PM EST onwards tomorrow.

So, if you feel like doing nothing and taking the chance of me being wrong, go ahead. Once my vote is in it's not going to move from that point onward. There aren't going to be any shenannies so don't even try.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 24 2016 16:58 GMT
#2326
On April 24 2016 07:12 sicklucker wrote:
My votes not final but I doubt I will change it unless I see some damned shit in tumble or jats filter which I promise to read. That or we can lynch the probably more likely scum rels with me :D


SL, tell me why Rels is scum.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 24 2016 18:24 GMT
#2328
On April 25 2016 01:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 07:12 sicklucker wrote:
My votes not final but I doubt I will change it unless I see some damned shit in tumble or jats filter which I promise to read. That or we can lynch the probably more likely scum rels with me :D


SL, tell me why Rels is scum.


Ok! Good talk.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 24 2016 18:46 GMT
#2331
I even parsed SL's whole filter and still don't understand why he thinks Rels is scum.
Seems like his last scumgame tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 24 2016 19:52 GMT
#2333
I'm paranoid of Jat again.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 24 2016 20:02 GMT
#2335
I know.
Meh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 24 2016 20:06 GMT
#2337
That's fine actually - leaves me to pursue my onegu/SL team.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
April 24 2016 21:44 GMT
#2417
On April 25 2016 06:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 06:33 sicklucker wrote:
Jat obi just came out and said he suspects me of thinking im mafia. is it just a coincidence rels starts attacking me? obi + 2 mafia votes is three votes on me. Really only one or two towns need to vote wrong for maiai to lose

Obi is far more likely to vote Onegu than you. And I am pretty sure I can convince him to change his mind if necessary. So since I am town you are lucky.


Yep.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 03:19 GMT
#2487
On April 25 2016 11:58 Tumblewood wrote:
I think a scumteam without Onegu can't exist because otherwise whoever is scum would just coast through this. It's not like Rels or JAT or SL would get punished for being AFK, because Onegu is even more AFK.
Still think SL is town, but the shouting match with Rels has me a little worried. I don't want to go into the final four with my townread on SL requiring me to overlook his flaws. In a TvS shouting match, town doesn't always come out of it looking as solid as before... agh still makes me uneasy though.


What are you even saying here?
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 03:24 GMT
#2489
On April 25 2016 12:21 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 12:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 25 2016 11:58 Tumblewood wrote:
I think a scumteam without Onegu can't exist because otherwise whoever is scum would just coast through this. It's not like Rels or JAT or SL would get punished for being AFK, because Onegu is even more AFK.
Still think SL is town, but the shouting match with Rels has me a little worried. I don't want to go into the final four with my townread on SL requiring me to overlook his flaws. In a TvS shouting match, town doesn't always come out of it looking as solid as before... agh still makes me uneasy though.


What are you even saying here?

I am saying two things here:
- A scum team doesn't exist without Onegu.
- I still think SL is town, but the recent shouting match between him and Rels makes me less comfortable about it.


So who's your second scum and why?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 03:24 GMT
#2490
Btw I think your reasoning behind your Onegu vote is tenuous at best.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 04:00 GMT
#2493
On April 25 2016 12:33 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 12:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 25 2016 12:21 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 25 2016 12:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 25 2016 11:58 Tumblewood wrote:
I think a scumteam without Onegu can't exist because otherwise whoever is scum would just coast through this. It's not like Rels or JAT or SL would get punished for being AFK, because Onegu is even more AFK.
Still think SL is town, but the shouting match with Rels has me a little worried. I don't want to go into the final four with my townread on SL requiring me to overlook his flaws. In a TvS shouting match, town doesn't always come out of it looking as solid as before... agh still makes me uneasy though.


What are you even saying here?

I am saying two things here:
- A scum team doesn't exist without Onegu.
- I still think SL is town, but the recent shouting match between him and Rels makes me less comfortable about it.


So who's your second scum and why?

Rels, on the charges of
- having a strong scumread on me but only pushing me when it's most useful for scum (when my wagon is tied with Super's and when my wagon is the counter to Shape's)
- not being as townie as SL or JAT


But this case seems bad, too.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 04:07 GMT
#2494
On April 25 2016 12:36 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 11:48 Tumblewood wrote:
trends in onegu's posting:
- sparse
- pretty poorly reasoned
- ignores half the game
- also had that one scumslip post
- fluff
- posted by onegu

really only two reasons to think he's town and one of them is iffy meta. 20% town

btw ows this is why I voted onegu, as well as what gumshoe said about "anyone can only be scum with onegu" so the onegu case is actually pretty solid


You literally just said it was because he voted the wrong guy and then fixed his vote.
Now it's this?

Wth?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 04:52 GMT
#2497
Fine, whatever.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 05:08 GMT
#2499
This game is annoying.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 05:11 GMT
#2501
On April 25 2016 14:11 Onegu wrote:
I dont see a team without tumble on it. I dont think SL/Rels is a team. And I think I am still fine sheeping rsoultin here.

##Vote: Tumblewood


Go on.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 05:18 GMT
#2505
On April 25 2016 14:16 Onegu wrote:
Which means tumble has to be mafia


Somehow I don't think all of this sways me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 05:22 GMT
#2506
I'm going to bed.
Onegu, this simply isn't enough to make me do anything or keep me from voting you so I need more than what you've given me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 13:50 GMT
#2548
On April 25 2016 14:26 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 14:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm going to bed.
Onegu, this simply isn't enough to make me do anything or keep me from voting you so I need more than what you've given me.



Well I am sorry to hear that obi.


lol
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 14:00 GMT
#2549
I don't really see how I don't vote Onegu here if he's just going to be like this.
I guess that makes this simple.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 14:52 GMT
#2571
On April 25 2016 23:48 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 25 2016 23:42 Onegu wrote:
On April 25 2016 23:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Like, if Onegu is town we lose no matter what. Even if tumble is mafia and we lynch him today Onegu will never manage not to get mislynched the next day like this.



How is this even remotely true. I found scum tumble. We should have lynched him yesterday. Fine I will look into who is the final scum between Rels and SL and actually give you a case.

You "found" scum tumble by knowing that you are town if you are. That's neither a big achievement nor very convincing or helpful for the rest of us.



So what you want me to do the work of making a case on him when you already think he is scum, but you guys are going to vote me anyway because I am onegu and if we go to final day with only one scum left you auto vote onegu. Thats not how that works. Previous games I have been in 2-1 lylo and won the game not being lynched. Looks at Obi.


Getting carried by rso isn't what I would call a good example, but if you want to insist on playing like shit as much as possible then fine.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 15:06 GMT
#2580
On April 26 2016 00:04 Onegu wrote:
JAT and obi if you really dont see this than that is on you.


Methinks you don't really know how to play this game.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 15:16 GMT
#2585
On April 26 2016 00:09 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2016 00:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 26 2016 00:04 Onegu wrote:
JAT and obi if you really dont see this than that is on you.


Methinks you don't really know how to play this game.



Dude voted someone he didnt have a scum read on over a person he did have a scum read on to ensure he and his teammate wouldnt be lynched. And now he is just afk while the mislynch train rolls


Hrm.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 15:17 GMT
#2586
Tumble has been aggravating me for some time but I'm not sure switching to him over Onegu is wise.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 16:47 GMT
#2603
:/
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 16:47 GMT
#2604
Playing as confirmed town is actually kind of unfun.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 16:49 GMT
#2605
Actually, give me a second.
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ObiWanShinobi
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April 25 2016 16:52 GMT
#2606
On April 26 2016 01:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Onegus day1 vote looks bad.
day2 is irrelevant.
day3 is unknown but I don't think it makes him town regardless of tumbles alignment.

Nightkills:
Idk if Palmar had any opinion on Onegu. Probably not.
Rsoultin scumread him.
Gumshoe scumread him hardcore.



I'm actually sort of unsure on the day 1 thing aside from the fact that "it looks bad."
I'm aware he voted poorly, but would he really just vote rso while his prospective rb was getting lynched? Seems counterintuitive.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 16:57 GMT
#2614
On April 26 2016 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2016 01:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 26 2016 01:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Onegus day1 vote looks bad.
day2 is irrelevant.
day3 is unknown but I don't think it makes him town regardless of tumbles alignment.

Nightkills:
Idk if Palmar had any opinion on Onegu. Probably not.
Rsoultin scumread him.
Gumshoe scumread him hardcore.



I'm actually sort of unsure on the day 1 thing aside from the fact that "it looks bad."
I'm aware he voted poorly, but would he really just vote rso while his prospective rb was getting lynched? Seems counterintuitive.

I don't think his rb was getting lynched when he voted, right?


I don't think so, but I think he was around for a bit while Superbia was getting lynched beforehand.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 16:58 GMT
#2615
On April 26 2016 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
I love how invested tumble is in this LYLO though.


I know.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 17:04 GMT
#2627
On April 26 2016 01:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2016 01:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 26 2016 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 26 2016 01:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 26 2016 01:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Onegus day1 vote looks bad.
day2 is irrelevant.
day3 is unknown but I don't think it makes him town regardless of tumbles alignment.

Nightkills:
Idk if Palmar had any opinion on Onegu. Probably not.
Rsoultin scumread him.
Gumshoe scumread him hardcore.



I'm actually sort of unsure on the day 1 thing aside from the fact that "it looks bad."
I'm aware he voted poorly, but would he really just vote rso while his prospective rb was getting lynched? Seems counterintuitive.

I don't think his rb was getting lynched when he voted, right?


I don't think so, but I think he was around for a bit while Superbia was getting lynched beforehand.

You sure? I mean superbia only got really in danger right before deadline, no?


I'm rereading all of day 1 to be sure.
Normally that'd be hard but I'm sure it's like only 20-30 pages or something.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 17:29 GMT
#2637
I just reread day 1 and I still have no clue what onegu was doing.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 17:31 GMT
#2638
If there's a reason to avoid lynching him, I don't really see it.
I tried to look back and see if there's something I could read into (not saving the RB) but there really isn't. There's just nothing there that I can make sense of aside from some reads that aren't good.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 17:32 GMT
#2639
Brb for a bit.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 17:41 GMT
#2643
On April 26 2016 02:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2016 02:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
If there's a reason to avoid lynching him, I don't really see it.
I tried to look back and see if there's something I could read into (not saving the RB) but there really isn't. There's just nothing there that I can make sense of aside from some reads that aren't good.

I know. But the more time passes the more I want to kill tumble for not giving a single fuck about being in LYLO.


Yep.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 18:27 GMT
#2675
On April 26 2016 03:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2016 03:16 Rels wrote:
JAT & OWS thoughts on that ?
On April 25 2016 20:59 Rels wrote:
Now that I think of it, every killed town had one hard scumread in mind.
Palmar => Superbia
rsoul => Tumble
gumshoe => Onegu
The NKs are solving the game for us. Yeah I know gumshoe scumread me quite a lot too, but Onegu was his main target.

On April 25 2016 21:16 Rels wrote:
Gotta stop for now but I've seen enough to make up my mind unless something drastic happens.
JAT is town because he's super townie and he has been town spewed by both Superbia & Onegu, assuming Onegu flips scum.

SL is town because he attacked both Onegu and Superbia D1, so unless Onegu is not scum it's unlikely he's partners with us both. He voted Superbia D1 and AFKd his vote on him. He was AFK during portions of the game but when he played he had this style of posting quick successions of posts that he has a hard time replicating as scum. He's implicated to solving the game when he usually doesn't care enough to play a lot as scum.

Onegu is scum because he's super useless. He scumread Superbia and said he would sheep Palmar D1 while ultimately wasting his vote. He never commited to a read on rsoul who he usually is super wary off but wasted his time joking with her instead. He's hiding his reads behind "mechanical" stuff like "Superbia is scum because scumslip" or "Tumble is scum because Rels & SL are not partners" in order to not commit to actually scumreading his partner. Superbia townreads him when he had no reason to and when Onegu is an easy mislynch to push. He scumreads me but he has no reason to scumread me apart from "coping out", whatever that means.

Tumble is scum because when pressured to explain something, he invented a reason that was proven to be bullshit. He scumread Superbia for being AFK but attacked rsoul because she scumreads Superbia for the same reason. He scumread Superbia but didn't vote him EOD1 to save his life, he voted GB instead who he was null on. Superbia only fakeclaimed when it was clear GB was the second wagon, he didn't when Tumble was the second wagon. He was OK lynching rsoul D1 after Palmar and JAT both seem to be OK with it. He scumreads me but he doesn't have any reason to scumread me apart from "he only pushes my lynch when it's useful for scum to do it", when I have pushed him over Shape who was town so it doesn't make sense.

In addition, the three NKs points at this conclusion, it looks like they all chose a target each night: N1 Superbia, N2 Tumble, N3 Onegu.


I just refuse to believe this game is so easy that it is just tumble + onegu.


+1
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 18:52 GMT
#2692
On April 26 2016 03:51 Rels wrote:
Tumble's read on Superbia is really the strongest scum indicator. Both the fact that he scumread rsoultin who shared the almost same read and his refusal to vote him to survive EOD1.


I'm aware.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 18:55 GMT
#2696
I feel like I should probably switch to tumble here.
The logic behind voting tumble seems far and away more solid than voting Onegu for doing nothing.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 18:56 GMT
#2697
I think the only person I have reservations about at this point is SL but I don't have solid reasoning behind it other than he sounded like mafia a few points today.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:02 GMT
#2701
On April 26 2016 04:00 justanothertownie wrote:
I would feel really really bad about letting Onegu wiggle out of this if he is with SL or Rels.

But I also don't want to let tumble get away with this if he is with SL.




Don't worry - we're all aware.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:12 GMT
#2710
There were more than a few instances where I thought SL's pushing on onegu was kinda scummy.
The bolded makes a ton of sense to me tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:16 GMT
#2712
I did stuff.
I just didn't wall up about it.
>:|
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:20 GMT
#2714
Right.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:21 GMT
#2715
Man letting onegu live here feels so stupid.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:35 GMT
#2721
lmao
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:50 GMT
#2729
Alright, I'm heading to work.
Still weighing whether or not to switch to tumble.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 21:01 GMT
#2792
On April 26 2016 05:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Obi, you still there? Or is all of this pointless anyways?


At work, but yes.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 21:02 GMT
#2793
On April 26 2016 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
i just thought of something. obis not even going to be here he made a point of it. so theres no way you can change the vote to tumble even if you wanted to jat without me


I'm still trying to make time for this game lmao.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 21:06 GMT
#2797
On April 26 2016 06:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2016 06:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 26 2016 05:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Obi, you still there? Or is all of this pointless anyways?


At work, but yes.

You will have to decide too. Everything I have is in the thread. i concede to a SL/Rels world. In a Onegu/Tumble world we will not lose today anyways.
We basically have to decide between Rels and SL where Tumble is more likely with SL and Rels more likely with Onegu. Sadly SL could also be with Onegu though.


I think SL is slightly more likely than Rels but it's a moot point probably - unflipped associatives are bad and you and me both know that.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 21:08 GMT
#2800
Like, every time I log in I go "let's not kill people who post" and the two scummiest people who are doing nothing vote into each other.

It's the only thing holding me back from riding off into the sunset.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 21:16 GMT
#2819
On April 26 2016 06:14 sicklucker wrote:
Like I forgot that one rels post early where he calls super and rels his top two scum. So your right hes never with tumble and I know onegus mafia so we win the game in 1 hour. So sorry if you guys cant figure that its pretty confirmed obi/tumble


Damn.
Rip me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 21:29 GMT
#2846
Where the fuck is onegu.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 21:38 GMT
#2859
Tumbles super weird attack on SL makes me want to lynch him again though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 21:54 GMT
#2888
Fuck it I'm staying.
Yolo.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 21:55 GMT
#2889
On April 26 2016 06:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Dat feeling of SL already bragging right now.


Is he really?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 22:06 GMT
#2923
PHEW.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 26 2016 02:14 GMT
#2948
On April 26 2016 11:10 sicklucker wrote:
im sorry


No you aren't.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 26 2016 13:46 GMT
#2960
I'm pretty sure all I have to do here is vote tumble and win.
I just don't see the worlds where SL/Rels are scum, and Jat is simply never mafia.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 26 2016 17:56 GMT
#2980
On April 26 2016 23:31 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2016 23:15 sicklucker wrote:
you know i was just trolling yesterday right? bored out of my mind you cant seriously take me seriously yesterday. I knew onegu was flipping mafia

Bam caught him TMI let's gooooooo


Haha lol.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 26 2016 21:45 GMT
#2985
On April 27 2016 06:34 sicklucker wrote:
so any theorys on who dies. I think I always want to sleep tomorrow anyway. Jat or no jat


Nothing changes regardless, but you guys can do as you please.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 03 2016 19:42 GMT
#3551
We lost?
Profound sadness.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 03 2016 19:43 GMT
#3552
Btw, I thought it was hilarious when gumshoe was like "I think I know who the vigi is" right before tunneling me into oblivion.
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