TL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3
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On March 09 2016 19:57 Palmar wrote: Announcement We're not above catering to our players wishes. Especially with more than one IML game going on, so without further ado: IML removed and replaced with DPL. This will be taken into account when designing the final setup (along with the number of players present). + Show Spoiler + I totally promise this has nothing to do with me realizing that it'll be so much less effort to manage a plurality lynch game.+ Show Spoiler + totally Game ruined. | ||
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There is nothing else in this thread that I care about. | ||
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On March 24 2016 11:45 ritoky wrote: for my alignment, please refer to the picture of the ford expedition. if you do not understand, think harder. No. | ||
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On March 24 2016 21:41 justanothertownie wrote: Well, it was slam most likely. And it WAS a fucking awful shot. Yes, gumshoes posts were 99 % useless rambling but he still obviously put a lot of effort into the game which he usually doesn't as mafia and I am pretty sure slam knows this. He needs to give us reasoning for 1) why he shot so early and 2) why gumshoe. And if it isn't very convincing I am tempted to just policy lynch him. You have my sword. | ||
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This whole dayphase will be relatively bad for me but my activity should pick up over the weekend. | ||
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He's probably my top lynch. | ||
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On a side note, how are you people already 6+ pages already? Like really. | ||
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On March 25 2016 14:52 sandroba wrote: Fuck there is so much to read. I know it's ridiculous. | ||
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I'll be staying on tubesock and trying to follow along as best I can in the morning. Let's try not to hit a 100 page day 1. | ||
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Too much going on in his posts for him to be mafia. | ||
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On March 25 2016 21:43 Kurumi wrote: Is that what you'd say about everyone who does that or only sandroba? Just sandroba. I've got a bunch of experience with sandroba and iirc he's completely useless as mafia - he posts very little and the posts he does make are easily recognized as illogical and bad. He is far and away stronger as town. | ||
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On March 25 2016 21:44 Superbia wrote: Obi/Kurumi, your thoughts at this point in time? I can't think of anything that I didn't already post that I would add at this juncture, aside from the fact that you should vote tubesock. Any particular reason why you aren't doing that? | ||
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On March 25 2016 21:53 Superbia wrote: Obi where do you place Ritoky? Null. I remember scumreading him for being bad but he said some stuff in a towny tone later on so I really don't know. | ||
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On March 25 2016 21:55 Superbia wrote: Tube's filter is not that bad. What makes you say that? | ||
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I'm still on the fence about tumble. I hated his ritoky post but that's the only scummy thing I can think of. I technically don't like his low-impact style either but that could be a sign of being new rather than being scum. | ||
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On March 25 2016 22:13 Superbia wrote: I liked that tumble claimed scum right before the game began and then disappeared for 20 hours. That's not really what happened and you know it. | ||
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On March 25 2016 22:17 Superbia wrote: Everyone sticks around to see their role PM if you're around at that point, and if you roll town I expect you to make a witty remark after your pre-game scum claim. And what would you expect from him as mafia? | ||
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It seems sorta tinfoil-y to me. I'll keep an eye on him I suppose. | ||
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I think he's a very likely mafia flip and more people should be voting him. | ||
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Huh? | ||
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On March 26 2016 06:30 Superbia wrote: Fuck I'm here. EDH took way too long. Hm. Hmmmm. | ||
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Whatever I guess. I'll be catching up tomorrow and I'll see if I can't post reads before EoN. I probably won't be shot so it's not like it matters. | ||
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On March 26 2016 20:57 LightningStrike wrote: I meant what you thought of the wagons at EoD? Tbh I'm kind of shocked that tube was actually lynched considering how horribly inactive I was. I think that tells us something about the scumteam in that they probably didn't care very much about either lynch, I.E. it's unlikely scum was up for lynch. | ||
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On March 27 2016 03:53 Damdred wrote: Ows is a smart man :D Now watch me be horribly wrong. | ||
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On March 27 2016 11:21 justanothertownie wrote: What is this btw.? I mean even if we ignore that those could have been the actual nightkill targets - why post this? What does tube being lynched have to do with you being inactive? Why the fuck would tube happening easily be an argument in favor of his counterwagon? This is not the first time you called a really bad post good now. The fact that I was inactive and he got lynched anyway. I pushed the wagon a few times and it never really changed course despite me doing nothing is something I felt was really weird. | ||
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But it still feels really weird because nobody ever really sheeps me and me getting my lynch despite not being around to ensure it is weird. | ||
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I'm going to be around for like 4 or 5 hours. | ||
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On March 27 2016 11:25 justanothertownie wrote: Shouldn't that mean that rsoultin is actually far more likely to be mafia than town to you? I don't understand why I should think this. Elaborate? I actually touched on this a bit earlier and said that both wagons being really close and me being busy at the time probably meant that both wagons were town. | ||
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On March 27 2016 11:27 Koshi wrote: oh superbia is also mafia. Damn. Maybe you aren't Damdred. I think I had you as slight townread. Why? | ||
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On March 27 2016 11:31 justanothertownie wrote: I will try to explain it to you: Obi push tube. Obi go afk. Tube still lynched over rsoultin. Obi surprise cause noone sheep Obi normal. ???????????? Obi conclude people listen to him town and wagon tvt. The bolded seems slightly inaccurate. | ||
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On March 27 2016 11:34 justanothertownie wrote: But that's the point. If you think mafia "sheeped" you then that would make rsoultin more likely mafia in your eyes. That's not what I was trying to say. What I was trying to point out is that both wagons were relatively close despite me doing nothing which makes me think mafia was just off doing whatever instead of trying to vote or save anyone, IE they could have voted on both wagons. | ||
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Maybe he's scum. | ||
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On March 27 2016 11:38 justanothertownie wrote: You can be a good town player but so far you haven't been at all and you can't seriously expect mafia to shoot you when you were the counterwagon to a townie day1. How about you use this supposed information advantage you have over us to make some useful analysis... But also yes. | ||
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I don't really know what to think of you and you doing something other than getting bogged down in fights I can't read into isn't helping. The only reason I have you as town is because of what I said about the wagons but otherwise I don't really have much and I don't know if I should keep pushing this idea or not. | ||
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On March 27 2016 12:49 sandroba wrote: prob vivax, TT or tumble. Maybe even rels, I'm kinda torn on him. Oh and also slam needs to die too I think. Can you explain Rels and Slam to me? I'm starting to come around on tumble possibly being scum and I'm already aware of the fact that TT needs to die regardless of what he is. | ||
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On March 27 2016 13:03 justanothertownie wrote: He might also be some sort of SK. I don't think that's especially likely tbh. | ||
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On March 27 2016 15:57 ritoky wrote: @OWS can I get reads from you? You chime in at times with comments that are very mind-meldy for me; but then I clicked your filter and realized I don't really know what you think about much of anything. Yeah I'll work on them for a bit. | ||
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On March 28 2016 01:35 Damdred wrote: Like here is my town to mafia list without explanations if anyone is curious I'll answer. Damdred JAT (never doubting him) LS Vivax Sandroba Koshi Sl VA/shape Superbia Kur/RS/ritoky Tt Tumble Rels Hijole: slam I'm not on the list? :< | ||
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Otherwise I'm a fan of that list Koshi. | ||
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Maybe I'd throw him into null or something? I'm not entirely sure where I'd put him but confirmed mafia seems like way too much. | ||
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I'll figure it out after Easter shenanigans. | ||
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I'll post some semblance of a list tomorrow. | ||
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Is this really the most important part of his post? | ||
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On March 28 2016 23:26 Superbia wrote: This is not the first time you throwing soft suspicion my way, obi. Take a stance, what do you think of Vivax's reply? What is the important part of that post for you? And what does it make Vivax? What about myself? Where do you stand on my alignment? There's nothing soft about it - it seemed like you picked the most minuscule part of the post to comment on. | ||
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On March 28 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote: What do you think about it? I think Vivax's bedtime is a relatively weird thing to fixate on but that's it. | ||
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Like, how is this possible exactly? | ||
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On March 28 2016 23:46 Superbia wrote: Wait from your filter you agree with Koshi's list. Is this still the case? I started agreeing with it and then kind of axed that idea when I started moving people around. Tumble is probably my top scum along with Tt and I've got a few outliers that aren't concrete yet. | ||
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On March 28 2016 23:40 Superbia wrote: Because either he admits to lurking or has to explain his early (what could be considered tactical) departure from the thread. I don't want to explain how his answer would affect my read. Fine, but I'm going to keep this in mind when he responds. | ||
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On March 29 2016 00:03 Vivax wrote: He also picked on the most miniscule parts of my filter to pick on, twice. I know, he did that earlier in the game with tumble where he accused him of being scum because of pregame stuff. It's really starting to wear on me. | ||
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On March 29 2016 00:24 Superbia wrote: Your top scum? Can't wait to see you connect these dots to my alignment. Tumble's alignment is irrelevant wrt your method of scum reading him, ftr. | ||
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On March 28 2016 23:55 justanothertownie wrote: Then now is the time to push them. So far you don't seem very interested in getting that done. You could start by explaining why Koshi/rsoul aren't good lynches and continue explaining why tumble and TT are. Rso is one of the outliers I've mentioned so her getting lynched is, imo, not terrible. Though I'm not sure what the case on koshi is? Can someone explain pls? | ||
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On March 29 2016 00:38 justanothertownie wrote: Did you not read anything I wrote about him? Do you actually think this is Koshis usual townplay? I did ask you to explain why you disagree with his lynch. You are not allowed to answer with a counter question. I probably haven't - I might have glossed over it when rushing to catch up. I'll try to look for it I guess. | ||
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On March 29 2016 00:45 Damdred wrote: and everyone just ignores my post to make shitty one liners about sleep schedule which btw doesn't make anyone scum. Yeah lol. I read it though and it looks pretty legit - Rels is now pretty low on my list. | ||
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On March 29 2016 03:32 justanothertownie wrote: The thing is though that I am not swayed by his arguments but by your extremely poor reaction to them. I didn't really think they were that poor tbh. | ||
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On March 29 2016 03:35 VayneAuthority wrote: going to vote for tumblewood now I think he is the highest chance to flip mafia. If nothing happens im going back to policying rsoultin for circlejerk and added benefit of info. You know what? I can also do this. | ||
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On March 29 2016 03:38 Tumblewood wrote: I'll probably be gone or 150 posts behind for deadline but I think rsoul is the correct wagon here and Koshi is the next Tubesock ideally both would die, but there's something about the timing and structure of the Koshi wagon that smells fishy to me, like all the attention is being suddenly drawn away from rsoul again. Much opportunism. Many town. Wowe. | ||
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On March 29 2016 03:38 justanothertownie wrote: You still owe me a defense of Koshi. I thought I owed you an opinion or something. | ||
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On March 29 2016 03:47 justanothertownie wrote: ... here we are again... Town Koshi push reads, have understandable reasoning, be very emotional about, be relentless, be active, be obvious town This Koshi push no reads, have no reasoning, don't be emotional, don't be relentless, don't be active, don't be town Compared to his most recent post? | ||
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Was it not the counterpoint to your case? | ||
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I feel like this conversation is going to get stale pretty fast. Why not? | ||
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On March 29 2016 03:57 Tumblewood wrote: I couldn't possibly lynch both wagons. I see a high probability of scum v. scum or svt. Scum can thank me for providing an alternative to lynching their scumbuddy. Dude you just suggested we should lynch both wagons for next to no reason and basically left. Would you even be here if I wasn't here pestering you? Again, who is mafia? | ||
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On March 29 2016 04:05 Damdred wrote: He actually suggested that RS is the better lynch because he thinks koshi is like tube (town) but he wishes both could die. Did he? Hold on, maybe I misread that post horribly. | ||
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Hrm. | ||
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On March 29 2016 04:11 Damdred wrote: The thing that bothers me about the post is just that though obi, he thiks koshi is town or the wagon mafia needs to get going, but he wishes both would die. Its just so weird I guess I'm aware of that bit and it hasn't eluded me. I just know so little about him and I need more. | ||
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On March 29 2016 04:24 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah. Why push something or even elaborate on any opinion or read ever. That's just waaay too hard work man. I don't think koshi is a good lynch but I've been wrong enough to the point where I might hop on him anyway simply because of the name power behind it. | ||
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On March 29 2016 04:59 Vivax wrote: When I see this I really start to doubt myself. I should probably just have kept pushing the TickTock lynch, he was clearly around a few hours ago and now he still didn't cast a goddamn vote after even posting his candidates. I already mentioned this but nobody else went for it. | ||
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On March 29 2016 05:15 VayneAuthority wrote: That could be the most nonsensical mafia list ive seen in a while, and me being on it is the least of its problems. Also yes. | ||
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Now I'm paranoid. D: | ||
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I don't know what this means but it's scary, yo. | ||
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Wat do. | ||
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On March 29 2016 06:43 Damdred wrote: Who would be up for a switch to Tt let it be known. Damdred and vivax (2) I would, I think. Jat, what do you think? | ||
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This is what I said but Super and Jat both disagree. | ||
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On March 29 2016 06:50 justanothertownie wrote: Seems like a total crapshoot to me. Fine. The VC is split three ways so idfk if I should stick with this or jump ship. | ||
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TT is voting with me and I'm really not sure lmao. | ||
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I think I'm going to stick with this and reconsider afterwards. | ||
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YOLO. | ||
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On March 29 2016 07:08 Rels wrote: Wtf scum needs a doc for. It doens't make sense Probably all the vigis lmao. | ||
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On March 29 2016 07:12 Vivax wrote: We will be the blazing duo for this game. Provided we survive the night after this epic shenannie. There's no Obi in this group? :< | ||
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On March 29 2016 07:13 Damdred wrote: Obi is welcome with us as we ride into the storm #thumbsup | ||
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You got me. | ||
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On March 29 2016 10:19 Koshi wrote: Well it's that or you are really good at indentifying mafia posts but just never chase them. You still think tumble is mafia? He might not be but his play doesn't really have any impact on that read. I also think you're grossly underestimating the amount of time I spent looking for people to wagon that weren't you, as well as how unfeasible the TT wagon seemed when I actually dropped that line. I'm actually pretty appreciative of the fact that Rels pointed out that I was bringing attention to TT because that's probably the most credit I'll ever get for that switch. | ||
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On March 29 2016 10:26 justanothertownie wrote: But how can you be town if you are still not calling me mafia? Something isn't right. You being right isn't right. He's calling me mafia already so we're halfway there. | ||
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On March 30 2016 05:35 justanothertownie wrote: I don't think there are any highlights unless you enjoy Koshi being Koshi again. And SL got mad. | ||
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/shrug Isn't it? | ||
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On March 30 2016 08:14 Superbia wrote: Actually Ritoky really likes to bus as mafia. Like really really likes to bus. I base this on 1 game. Which one was that? | ||
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On March 30 2016 08:19 Damdred wrote: Oh man, There are no shots missing guys, all shots are accounted for n1. I did not receive a vest rs isn't that dumb. LS is town, you guys have no idea how,much I had to push ls in pm land and in mafia at to act out. And even then he didn't go overboard and calmed down quick. He's town he is a low impact player overall anyway. We just got out of a game where he raged hardcore as mafia and even got warned and you're going to give us this? | ||
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On March 30 2016 10:27 sandroba wrote: really, why do you even think ows is mafa? did you even read his filter? Uhm? | ||
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Knowing my track record this game, that probably makes him mafia or something. | ||
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A written reminder to myself to do it tonight. | ||
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On March 30 2016 11:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I need to take a second look at Vivax's work when I'm done job searching and whatnot. A written reminder to myself to do it tonight. I lied - I wound up going to sleep after job searching. | ||
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Who shot rso? | ||
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On March 31 2016 00:26 Rels wrote: So sandroba and Damdred are not being lynched today because of their roles, regardless of what they do today. Kurumi might be town. I want to lynch LS SL OWS or VA. You're annoying. | ||
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Shut up. | ||
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On March 31 2016 01:19 Rels wrote: Come on, you're a great player when you want to be. What do you think about _____ ? (fill the blank with anything you want) lol I wish. I'm actually at work arm so if there's anything in particular you want to know about then ask away. Otherwise I'll be relatively preoccupied until later. | ||
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No reason to bother doing work when the lynch is all set. I'll probably still pop in for deadline but that's it. | ||
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Will catch up tonight. | ||
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My catchup will probably be slightly underwhelming but let's see if we can't crank something out before bed. | ||
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I think I want to lynch Superbia for posting bad analysis on two separate occasions and can't remember anything noteworthy from him outside of that so he's up on my list. Tumblewood continues to just be generally underwhelming. I can't remember why I townleaned him before. Something about the wagons? Probably not relevant. I can't really come up with an alternative lynch to those two at this point so unless Damdred becomes confirmed mafia or smthn then my focus will probably be on those two tomorrow. | ||
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On April 01 2016 16:28 Koshi wrote: OWS, can you please shoot Superbia? Just do it and if he actually is sk I will lynch myself tomorrow. I would but I don't have a gun. ![]() | ||
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Mayhaps. | ||
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On April 02 2016 12:55 LightningStrike wrote: What you pretty obvious? Rels was still a question mark for some people while Damdred is a claimed blue yet Damdred didn't die. Damdred not dying is the biggest question mark, as is his claimed protect on Rels and his subsequent miss. Why exactly Rels would be shot over the claimed doctor that initiated a switch on mafia on day 2 is...More than a little bit strange tbh. | ||
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I'd sass more but this is probably the part where we start acting super paranoid about our blue claims so let's do it. Did you ever have SL as town at some point? | ||
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I'll try to be less terrible in the morning but my schedule is really grinding me out wrt this game. | ||
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On April 02 2016 15:40 sicklucker wrote: tube/shape -unlikely third party never mafia ritoky - obv town I think regardless of my read hes never with rstoulin so should be kept around Dandred- ah that should sort itself out va - meh light town read feels like his lynch baity self tbh but I dont claim to read him well ls - a dandred townread can only get you so far I dont even know if I can trust dandred no more and I still think this is your scum game altho I saw reasons to doubt this in like day 2 you have not done anything since and I dont remember you ever being this much of a bystander ever. obi- I have always said I can never read you and thats true. ITs mostly because you never do anything in mafia games ever. But in this game your votes stink, your reads stink and I will never be able to townread you in this game. Its kind of the same for obi/ls I want them out because via poe there mafia alot of the time and I will never ever be able to trust them as town going forward. Untrue. Also I think my reads have been pretty on point this game, unless you feel like pointing out where I was wrong. | ||
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On April 02 2016 22:31 Damdred wrote: Hi LS, how are you? Where are you at wrt reads atm? | ||
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On April 02 2016 23:59 Damdred wrote: Yeah, at physical therapy atm so only can post during my breaks so I'll be hit and miss today/tommorow. I don't think we can eliminate tube at this juncture. D2 we had a couple things going on, had rs up for lynch, had tumble and koshi up. Now koshi was pretty close to being lynched at 5 but he's been his towny self. A lot of town consolidated on tumble and then a lot of confirmed town moved to Tt which made a scum panic move. I don't think it means tumble is 100% town with his postings now and what not. I just can't strike him meh. I'll continue one sec ...Tube? | ||
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On April 03 2016 02:13 Damdred wrote: Super has fallen off hard to and seems to not care that's weird for someone who said they would try hard I belie This is one of the bigger issues on my mind as well, though I don't know what else I can add to emphasize the point. | ||
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On April 03 2016 04:47 Damdred wrote: Anyway who do you think,the lynch is Ows. I think it's Superbia. Nothing has changed wrt how I regard the slot, so. | ||
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On April 03 2016 06:53 Superbia wrote: Hit me up after the game is done Obi, didn't know you played. :D Same for you rit. ;p next_level_pocketing.exe I wanted to say something earlier but I didn't want to clutter up the game - I only brought it up now because it was relevant. Anyhoezels I'm playing prerelease right now and am preoccupied. | ||
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On April 03 2016 06:56 Superbia wrote: Also damd being modconfirmed is neat. ![]() I thought something similar but I wasn't 100% when I read it btw. | ||
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I'm the laziest one here and somehow I'm the one trying to move things forward. (Aside from resident shoutyman Koshi.) | ||
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Voting Superbia anyways. | ||
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On April 03 2016 17:14 ritoky wrote: if you're gonna vote and then leave at least say why Once again, it's because there were two separate occasions where he came up with weak/scummy reasons to scumread people and has fallen off hardcore since then. | ||
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On April 03 2016 23:12 sicklucker wrote: I kind of acualy wanna change my vote to LS after reading that post. only gonna be here for a little Why? | ||
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On April 03 2016 23:20 sicklucker wrote: and why are you complaining its him or you in my head which I stated many times and you had 0 reaction about Yeah I'm not really concerned that way. Sorry. | ||
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At this rate you're going to be dead long before I am and you're not really convincing anyone to vote me at this rate. | ||
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On April 04 2016 00:42 sicklucker wrote: are you acualy going to do something so I can townread you? Im pretty sure you should and will get lynched today. Fucking trying to nap and all i hear is some asshole chopping vegatables for 50 minutes Good luck with that, friend. | ||
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But can we get some reasons for townreading superbia? It seems like I keep bringing him up, people go "yeah, he's scummy" and then he never gets lynched and we all forget about it. | ||
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On April 04 2016 01:20 Superbia wrote: I'm gonna go off a bit of a rant here. Mostly because I want to chill with my gf tonight so I won't be around to play. It's pretty simple: Anyone who wants to lynch me is a fucking idiot. I have fucked confirmed mafia in the ass throughout the game. And possibly fucked a town (Koshi), who has been mafia-siding throughout the game. So you have to believe I am 3rd party. Yet I openly discuss 3rd party KP previous day and was the one who brought it up. Actively promoting the fact that rso was shot by third party to deny kurumi his claim. Which is pretty much the dumbest play ever as 3rd party. Like what would be my plan there? Put me on the map to take down a mafia? Who just got fucked in the ass the previous day/night? nice_play.exe I played a lazy town game. I'm continuing to playing an even lazier towngame. That's it. I want to lynch: - Tumblewood (everyone seems to want to lynch this guy but no one actually seems to want to lynch this guy). - Obi (tunneled on me for no good reason) - VA (meh). - One between: --- Ritoky (maybe 3rd party) --- Koshi (if Ritoky ends up being town/more town, for mafia siding so hard/being so wrong throughout the game) - Maybe lightningstrike (but probably can't). So, you know. Probably follow my reads if you want to win the game as town. I can go out and pull the quotes of you having bad scumreads. Not just bad in the sense that they were town, but bad in the sense of "you had nothing else to go on so you pulled out some scummy logic and hoped people would buy it." | ||
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I let it get the best of me too many times - I'm evaluating you based on your play and this is the conclusion that I came to. If I'm wrong, whatever, but I don't think I am. | ||
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On April 04 2016 01:37 Superbia wrote: All of these were pretty much on mafia or non-flipped people. Some who are considered scummy. So mafia. The only non-flipped I could tihnk of was Tumble and that was from early game - we already talked about this. The other was on Vivax. You know exactly what I'm talking about so don't even. | ||
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Come up with cases and stuff because this ranting isn't going to do anything for me. | ||
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On April 04 2016 01:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Super, who exactly is mafia and why? Come up with cases and stuff because this ranting isn't going to do anything for me. | ||
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On April 04 2016 01:44 Superbia wrote: Oh I don't care. You're probably one of them. Your presence has involved siding with a PR on a town (me). Then afking through yesterday (don't even recall what you were doing). Then continuing the push today. Tumblewood is nowhere to be found which indicates he's not interested in the game anymore. Which is pretty shit play if you're one of the last left. Either way he's playing a losing game. But you know, he has to be flipped at some point. Oh no! I'm attacking you and that makes me mafia! I'm so caught! | ||
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I scumread you long before this conversation happened. That's just not how omgus works. | ||
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On April 04 2016 01:49 Superbia wrote: You scum-read me at some point. Then 2 mafia flipped which I was both calling mafia at some super townie point in time and both pressured in a super townie way. I also hipster-voted for both. With good reasons behind them. But you know, you don't care about any of this and that's probably because you're mafia. Either way you're against me so your death will go in favor of town. I don't really recall any of this. | ||
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We could probably lower KP by taking him out now if that's the case, which gives us more time for the others. OR. We can just lynch tumble and hope for the best. I'm not necessarily opposed to either. | ||
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On April 04 2016 02:15 Damdred wrote: Honestly I'd rather just tr super for filter length and for being a dick for no reason. I remember when I thought like this. | ||
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On April 04 2016 02:27 LightningStrike wrote: Having lunch right now: He got emotional as scum and people listened to ritoky's read on him. Yeah, which is part of why I'm saying Super's tirade should be ignored and his play should be evaluated outside of that, which I think is particularly damning. Even if you don't ignore it, his rant is basically him boldfacedly ignoring bits of the game to look good. Speaking of which, what's your read on him? Forgive me if I missed it. | ||
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On April 04 2016 02:29 Damdred wrote: I was really inactive though and vivax even called me out on how fake and totally out of place it sounded. So I'm not syre Vivax is Vivax and usually hits scum when he tries. The dude is just good at mafia. I don't think that's relevant to what we're discussing. | ||
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I'll be around. | ||
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On April 04 2016 03:54 Koshi wrote: ritoky is 100% scum. Thx for asking my opinion. I don't appreciate your sass. | ||
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On April 04 2016 05:40 ritoky wrote: he literally gave up for like 48 hours after rsoul died....and hasn't done shit since... i think i might be done with mafia for months or maybe for good after this game. Me too prbs. | ||
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On April 04 2016 05:47 Superbia wrote: I'm actually tempted to call you town for this. Who is your next lynch again? I'm not sure. Maybe one of tumble/LS. | ||
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On April 04 2016 05:50 Superbia wrote: Why is VA town for you? He's null. I don't think anything of him. | ||
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On April 04 2016 06:34 Superbia wrote: Where the hell is Obi? Where the fuck did he go after "that wall wasn't too bad". Stuck at a prerelease that I shouldn't have signed up for. | ||
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On April 04 2016 06:44 Damdred wrote: Shape your wrong about super I think Maybe. | ||
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Damdred, make the call. | ||
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Did we do that | ||
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On April 04 2016 08:24 sicklucker wrote: competent player tho never lynch and can you guys start listening to me? Like im right once again as a sit back and cant do anything as you lynch my town reads. Its sad really I should reconsider that read probably. | ||
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On April 05 2016 03:50 Superbia wrote: Meh. Kinda hope you die. Welp, guess super is stabbing SL tonight. | ||
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On April 05 2016 06:25 Koshi wrote:- Lynch OWS for being mafia. He is actually mafia and I don't really know why. But he isn't town. If you are looking for some 0 impact player that is useless but made some decent emotions posts to appeal to the retarded masses it is this guy. Come on. | ||
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On April 05 2016 07:13 VayneAuthority wrote: oh shit I forgot about obi, thanks for posting and remind me. You're welcome? -.- | ||
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On April 05 2016 07:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why would scott be one of the people jumping off of super if he was going to shoot him tonight, though? Fixed. Meant to say scott, not ritoky. I don't think ritoky was there at the end anyway but that's what I meant to say lmao. | ||
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On April 05 2016 07:15 Koshi wrote: So damdred shot the sk because he would get killed by the sk? Mafia still has rb and their medic was actually a medic? This isn't out of the question I don't think. | ||
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On April 05 2016 07:21 VayneAuthority wrote: what makes you say that? with SK being out ritoky's town chances go pretty up but lets hear what you are thinking It's still a half-baked idea but I think there's a lot of scum motivation in moving for lynches other than super's and tumble's at EoD. Tumble was still lynchable (obviously considering the state of events atm, and it's really easy to string someone like that along at endgame) and super isn't going to make it through the night, so if those two die there aren't a lot of other options for him. IE I think his eod vote is more of a setup. | ||
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I think that has more to do with my theory than anything else but that's just me. | ||
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That theory is probably out and I might be looking too skin-deep again. | ||
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On April 05 2016 07:32 VayneAuthority wrote: thats why I said it implies either some one is very good standing (damdred, koshi, shapelog) or some one not paying attention at all (scott....yea thats it lol) I think Damdred is the most likely of those three. Koshi is acting like an angry, ranty person like his normal town self. I guess shapelog is theoretically possible - mafia obviously wanted him dead last night so maybe making a play to come after him during the day isn't out of the question. Scott seems completely out there. I understand why you brought it up but it seems so unlikely. So either shapelog or damdred for me. | ||
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On April 05 2016 09:34 VayneAuthority wrote: everyone needs to spam for damdred to post full disclosure of his role. He has posted since and ignored it. He's hiding something and playing anti-town for a while now. Lynch him if he doesn't explain his role in full. otherwise im voting scott I can back this. | ||
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On April 05 2016 11:06 Damdred wrote: I was going to reveal my role information but I decided not to. Its anti-town to reveal that. Yeah, I don't think so. | ||
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On April 05 2016 18:57 sicklucker wrote: I dont think we acualy wanted to lynch dandred we just wanted him to claim! Yep. | ||
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On April 06 2016 00:34 VayneAuthority wrote: im not staying on it. probably just going back to scott, that will forever be a ? This doesn't really seem like a horrible idea. I'll try to read into him now. | ||
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Scott's only strike against him is that he's inactive. I love killing inactives but that's all I've got outside of the bad slam shot on day 1. | ||
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On April 06 2016 01:31 VayneAuthority wrote: alright ive made up my mind. going to shenannie vote some one when there is like 30 mins left This seems like a terrible idea considering our track record. Why can't you just tell us? | ||
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There are like 4-5 people in this game who autoscumread me regardless of what I say/do so people being willing to lynch me isn't that surprising. SL/Koshi/VA do this all the time and I don't find it suspicious at all. | ||
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I'm honestly not sure what sets people on me every game and idk what to do to avoid it, so maybe I'll ask afterwards. | ||
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On April 06 2016 03:12 Koshi wrote: If that is fucking being willing to fucking switch I don't fucking know what being hesitant is. Literally got to ask 2 different people and wanted to stick on his lynch when it was equal. Only when TT was really lynched he jumped over. He was the vote before rsoultin or something. Yeah, because it seemed so unrealistic to switch like that. I talked about him and nobody cared, so how was I supposed to know that wagon would explode? | ||
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On April 06 2016 03:48 Koshi wrote: Yes. If you can make is suspenseful. Again. Explain to me how that role makes more sense for mafia. Knowing the only vig we have is sandroba. Knowing that there is an sk who had kp, and mafia with a lot of kp. How does town ever get a grip? I'm not really big on role speculation: that's VA's gig. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that scum gets an extra KP role due to the sk just existing and plausibly mucking up their plans at any point. Did you think the shot was towny or is the fact that he has a role at all the thing holding you back? | ||
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On April 06 2016 03:51 Koshi wrote: You have no real reasons why scott is mafia. Why do you not believe all the (good) reasons Rels gave to lynch ritoky? Why do you ignore ritoky? When people talked about ritoky you ignored it, gave no opinion, only after VA shifted suspicion towards scott you added dirt on scott AND soft defended ritoky. That is really strange. I always townread ritoky - it's a dumb weakness of mine and I know that I do it but idk how to assess him properly. | ||
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On April 06 2016 03:51 Koshi wrote: You have no real reasons why scott is mafia. Why do you not believe all the (good) reasons Rels gave to lynch ritoky? Why do you ignore ritoky? When people talked about ritoky you ignored it, gave no opinion, only after VA shifted suspicion towards scott you added dirt on scott AND soft defended ritoky. That is really strange. I just gave you one bro - he just jumped on my wagon based on old information that he townread me prior to the jump. | ||
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On April 06 2016 03:57 VayneAuthority wrote: I dont know what differentiates your play. I looked at multiple of your filters from recent games and its all in the 12-18 filter length range with tons of one liners as both town and mafia. I don't know how to definitely say you are town Yeah I know. Damdred usually picks up on a few things here or there but I'm well aware I'm sitting in a shark tank right now and wouldn't be surprised if I died here. | ||
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On April 06 2016 04:08 Koshi wrote: It's when you put something potentially important in this thread that nobody before you put down in the thread. Okay, I discussed Scott/Tt beforehand so technically this shouldn't be an issue, correct? Or am I missing something? | ||
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On April 06 2016 07:21 ritoky wrote: the reason it should be between those 3 is that VA seems to be town, koshi i won't touch with a 10 foot pole, i am conf town, and of the 3 claims the only question mark for me (blaming mod if damdred is mafia) is SL but he has read me right all game so probably town as well. thus we are left with ls, obi, shape. Go on. | ||
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Normally he does that by now. | ||
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On April 06 2016 21:51 Shapelog wrote: TBF, (and i might be wrong here cuz it is nearing 9 in the morning) your sus. has to do with his role. Only slightly. | ||
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On April 06 2016 22:54 VayneAuthority wrote: I think you are on the right track koshi. If we lynch OWS and ritoky and don't win the game I would be genuinely surprised. I am giving ritoky dick move theory over OWS though so i lynch him first. I'm beginning to think you're just mafia atm. | ||
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Hrm. Might change things. | ||
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On April 06 2016 23:00 Damdred wrote: Obi I have a thought about you that makes me not want to lynch you... I'd love to hear it - being lynched is balls. | ||
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On April 06 2016 23:16 VayneAuthority wrote: do you genuinely think that or are you just upset that im voting for you, pretty big difference. your best bet would be to show me why ritoky is without a doubt mafia. second best bet would be a case on LS but i am having trouble seeing how him/rsoultin could be on the same team among other things Nah I just didn't realize you weren't chilling on my wagon in the vote thread - it was some thought I had when I woke up but it doesn't seem to be accurate. | ||
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Scott didn't look terrible in his last salvo of posts - I felt like he was trying to make sense of things so maybe he isn't mafia. | ||
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Ritoky has had so many detailed cases on him that I wouldn't be surprised if he were mafia + trying to set up lynches from yesterday. LS seems like more of a shot in the dark though, considering he should have had no investment in the lynch yesterday and still switched/stuck it out. | ||
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On April 07 2016 01:54 Koshi wrote: once more you fail to give your own opinion on ritoky his game play. No I haven't. This is the second time that I brought up the "lining up lynches" idea. | ||
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I explained both of these things already. | ||
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Too much afk on my wagon. | ||
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On April 07 2016 05:58 Koshi wrote: They couldn't because both ows and rsoultin multiple times said I was town. Esp. rsoultin and OWS had been scumreading TT and townreading me. You keep saying that like it's a bad thing. | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:10 Koshi wrote: I am killing people who can't turn their brain on. I kept looking for alternatives to you. You say that it's a point against me. ????? | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:13 Koshi wrote: NO. People ask why I was spared over TT. If I am town, why did mafia not kill me. And I explain that rsoultin and you couldn't jump on me. In case you are scum. Yeah, well I'm not scum and looked for a way to not vote you so come up with a new theory. | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:16 Koshi wrote: Why don't you do something for a chance. I am not prone to look for an other theory because I think you are mafia. If you know why you aren't. Why was I spared? Damdred jumped on TT when I was on 6 and TT was on 5. No, that's not how this works. You don't get to sit here and tell me to do something when your whole theory revolves around your prime suspect voting TT's wagon over yours to push it over the edge and save you. | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:23 Koshi wrote: That wasn't even a small part of my case on you. My case on you: 1) Scumreads TT, but tried everything to not be an active part of the lynch. Sat on TW who was not getting lynched. 2) Your post and play is gray. Nobody remembers you. You didn't solve anything so far. 1) This is untrue - I talked about TT when nobody else did and switched when the wagon actually became a thing that could happen. I wound up pushing it over. I've explained this more than a few times at this point. 2) What does this even mean? | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:27 Koshi wrote: 1) Scott is unlikely mafia due to his role. It is a pure crapshoot. If you want to PoE tell me why others are not mafia. 2) VA played extremely well if he is mafia. And him being afk atm is not strange. I've already stated that scott might not be mafia but him being afk and not useful is annoying. I'm thinking we probably just lynch b/w LS and ritoky and hope for the best since I'm out of ideas otherwise. | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:30 scott31337 wrote: I'd really like to answer to this as well. OWS - I don't have a whole lot to add - I did my dead and alive filter diving, checked how D2 went - and was okay with my vote. From how the votes are I'm pretty sure we're on to something. Based on what? | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:35 Damdred wrote: Maybe I had a power to make the mod talk in thread idk I feel sick and high If you think I'm town who's your top lynch? You've been saying I'm maybe town for a few hours and we're like 20 minutes away and I don't know who else you want to kill. | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:38 Koshi wrote: scott is never mafia btw. I forgot about the fact it was a silent shot on D1. Imagine mafia shooting someone the first second of the game for lulz. Scot is setup wise confirmed town. HOLY SHIT WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE NOT THINKING OF SHIT LIKE THIS I think ritoky said this a few pages ago. | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:35 Damdred wrote: Maybe I had a power to make the mod talk in thread idk I feel sick and high Is this actually a feasible thing? Why would this be the thing you tell him to say? | ||
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Why would town have that power? | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:43 scott31337 wrote: I took it as a joke when he first said it. But his lack of contribution is getting tiring. It is, really. I still don't know who he wants to lynch and we're 15 minutes away. | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:44 VayneAuthority wrote: I feel like I am making excuses to not lynch LS so if thats what people really want I can lynch it, but I don't feel it is correct. I would take -10% credit if hes mafia I still feel like it's a shot in the dark but I'll vote him to save myself if that's what's going to happen. | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:47 Damdred wrote: I just literally said I don't know. And I thought Ows would of gotten the joke since he was in ippo when bats had the power. I don't want to lynch ls, or va. Or scott Dude that was like a year ago lmao. | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:48 Shapelog wrote: Yeah, idk, the trend so far has it to where townies say they will save themselves with voting the counterwagon. But.... But what? | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:52 VayneAuthority wrote: its happened before this role. we had a mafia day vig on our team and searched very hard for a way to try to make it viable. If slams slot is mafia how he used it is actually genius Are you talking about banks in that other Ver game or something? | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:53 Koshi wrote: Holy shit you are not doing anything are you. Holy shit. I know the scenario VA is talking about and think it's plausible, IE talking about scott. | ||
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This LS/ritoky thing needs to be resolved anyways because of the shitshow they started. There's a ton of things surrounding ritoky that make him likely mafia so let's do it. | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:55 sicklucker wrote: looks like ows is the lynch then im ok with this >:| | ||
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RITOKY | ||
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Bbl prbs. | ||
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On April 07 2016 08:05 sicklucker wrote: Ls obi dandred. its a world they just both voted to save obi Am not scum. | ||
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On April 08 2016 09:24 Koshi wrote: So I better vote LS. lmao | ||
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On April 08 2016 10:17 LightningStrike wrote: Obi he practically confirmed town by sicklucker's flip lol. Is he though? Is he really? | ||
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On April 08 2016 23:14 VayneAuthority wrote: Now if we lynch damdred: 1. We lynch mafia and it's really cool 2. we will have killed 4 blues as town, 3 through lynches. Which is probably unprecedented and would definitely be a new record we can proudly hold as part of this town seems like win/win lmao | ||
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On April 08 2016 23:21 VayneAuthority wrote: problem is the other person I potentially think is scum (obi) was the first to say today "hey why isnt damdred dead thats weird loL!" It's all a conspiracy. | ||
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On April 09 2016 02:45 Koshi wrote: Can somebody explain to me why VA is mafia? People think VA is mafia because he's VA. | ||
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On April 09 2016 12:03 scott31337 wrote: Thank you for the wonderful insight. Who do you want to lynch and why? Damdred for being apathetic and not particularly useful despite being "confirmed town." | ||
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Game is hard. | ||
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On April 09 2016 22:55 Koshi wrote: not really. Obi is always useless. You aren't. Not always but I'll admit that I haven't been the shining beacon of town since, like, day 2 or something. | ||
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On April 09 2016 22:11 Damdred wrote: Ls is probably town for trying to get koshi off his tunnel on me and doing work in my filter. He wouldn't do that as scum. It is also ironic Obi is wanting to lynch me for being useless though. Who do we lynch if not you? | ||
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I don't really see any of that from you and it's really bugging me. I know you want to lynch scott but I don't see much behind it that I can really identify with. Why should I lynch scott over you? | ||
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One sec. | ||
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Meh. | ||
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Don't lynch damdred then. | ||
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##vote damdred | ||
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Not much I can do about it at any rate atm. I'll go back to shapelog. I'm open to voting damdred at some point, potentially lightningstrike. | ||
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On April 10 2016 04:39 Damdred wrote: It's interesting the whole basis of Obi vote is I shouldn't be alive when the same should be said about a couple others as well who are just as Alf,and busy as me. That and you went afk at a bunch of weird times. I moved anyway so you shouldn't be concerned. Just help me do something. | ||
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On April 10 2016 04:48 LightningStrike wrote: I here now. ObiWanShinobi Damdred is most likely town. Just like Superbia, right? :D D: | ||
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On April 10 2016 04:56 scott31337 wrote: This comes out of nowhere when I haven't been mentioned. slip? Uh, what? | ||
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On April 10 2016 05:06 Damdred wrote: So because I'm busy I'm scum? Come on that's weak and you know it It is. That's why I'm not voting you anymore. | ||
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On April 10 2016 05:47 Damdred wrote: I have been looking at posts and va basically said he doesn't care he's voting Obi. I know it's something that has been bugging me for a while but I kept writing it off b/c VA. | ||
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Fingers crossed. | ||
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On April 10 2016 06:50 Damdred wrote: Kinda tempted to go to Ows... >:| | ||
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On April 10 2016 07:26 LightningStrike wrote: God fucking damn it...... maybe it was ObiWanShinobi all along and I saved him because I went for my scumread..... y | ||
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On April 10 2016 07:55 LightningStrike wrote: Because almost everyone else probably will flip town. Because? | ||
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So that's another plus. | ||
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Too much apathy surrounding both lynches, plus what I said earlier. | ||
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On April 10 2016 08:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'll pull quotes and such when I get home. I may actually just hold onto this until day probably. It's not like anyone is going to shoot me any time soon. | ||
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We really should just up and lynch Damdred because he should by all rights and accounts be dead. | ||
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On April 12 2016 06:30 Shapelog wrote: Yeah, I don't BM much, even if i am frustrated at a game most of a time. maybe here and there, but most of the time i try to keep a level head because I already spam like hell (which i fixed IMO so Yay!) You have a 27 page filter. | ||
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On April 12 2016 03:22 Damdred wrote: I think no matter what happens I've gained a lot of respect for shape regardless of his alignment. And lost what respect I had for koshi as a player, probably not a person though. I don't know why koshi is so hard on me this game tbh and so bm towards me. It's pre try disrespectful and I wish he would,just stop. Anyway I'm the town medic, palmar basically confirmed me and now at best koshi is acting anti town maybe he is the second mafia idk but if he is that probably makes Obi the other scum I'm not sure. How does this work? To either statement, actually. | ||
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On April 12 2016 07:18 Damdred wrote: It doesn't work tbh, if koshi is scum it's probably more likely that Scott is his partner rather than you since he's,been pushing more off vBulletin of Scott as the game has went than off of you. My honest gut read is that koshi is scum with Scott and has bee hard defending him moat of the game as making,more sense than a medic. But that's just conjecture at this point. Koshis activity does point to town, but his uncaring around lynch points to scum. Day 2 vote points to scum, his sort of bm points to town. So it a a bit difficult So You have no idea. | ||
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I still don't really think your logic is that strong regardless. | ||
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On April 12 2016 08:16 Shapelog wrote: My probs. with Koshi stem from a bit of paranoidiness mixed with coasting. Mostly has to do with posts talking about me casing a fool. It started out innocently, you know. "Shape or scott, you should make cases blah blah blah." Then repeat about twice, then add "And VA." to it. Then, "Shape....Va...Scott?" to "Shape make a case, we sheep" to "Shape make a case, if it is X/Y/Z I sheep/push it", to "Shape Make a case, what about obi?" "Shape make a case, you can convince the thread." And whats weird, he did this I'm pretty sure while Rik was getting lynched, which IIRC he also thought at the time that rik was last scum and the game was going to end (I think, don't quote me on that) Pretty sure everyone is coasting at this point. | ||
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On April 12 2016 08:29 Koshi wrote: Obi also doesn't sound mafia. But pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff. literally my read. You know what? I think I'm okay with that. | ||
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On April 12 2016 08:56 Koshi wrote: You know what I like about Damdred. The fact he kept saying he was suspicious of Shape during all days and still saved him twice. Uhhhh what? | ||
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On April 12 2016 16:40 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote obiwan ![]() | ||
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On April 13 2016 00:58 Koshi wrote: Is it wrong for me to think that we should lynch you now? Because mafia is within obi/damdred/shape and if there is 2 it is now very unlikely you and damdred are together? Yeah, because I'm town. Not sure what kind of response you want from me here. | ||
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On April 13 2016 00:59 Koshi wrote: nha sorry. I need to stick on you obi. I got to respect the VA read. Last sane person in this game. VA admitted he doesn't know how to read me and you're going to trust his vote on me? Seems loose. | ||
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On April 13 2016 01:30 Koshi wrote: Obi. What happened with that case you were going to make on Shape? I already said that it seemed bad so I threw it out. | ||
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On April 13 2016 01:55 Koshi wrote: Lame Yeah. Sorry. | ||
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I can maybe see a world where Scott is scum because he keeps coming up with crummy reasons to scumread people. I don't think Koshi is scum because he always seems like he's trying so hard to make things work and solve the game. I'm annoyed with the fact that he keeps winding up on my wagon but it's unsurprising. | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:19 Damdred wrote: I'll be honest I have pretty selfish reasoning for voting Ows here. He's only really been talking about lynching me today and really hasn't considered much else. Says he would case shape,but didn't post it, thought I was town for hedging but soon as ls died went straight back to scum reading me. Instead of looking at actual things he really picked on unimportant things like spelling. Isn't inquisitive or trying to solve the game. I think,he's probably best shot at scum today at least. Meh. Idrc. That was before you dodged another bullet for seemingly no reason. What mafia keeps dodging you? | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:23 Damdred wrote: Like today is super important and idk Obi and shape both annoy me right now. Blah idk Scott annoys Mr less because palmar promised more big before game to and he's putting in some effort. If today is super important then why are you only showing up when you're getting lynched? | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:31 Damdred wrote: Like there's so little flailing going on in the thread currently it makes me feel like no mafia is up for lynch Eh. Then who else do you think? | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:38 Damdred wrote: Kinda halfway want to shenanigans to koshi for lolz but the reasoning is weak because his activity is good. And the Tt shenanigans was so quick no telling if scum would of had time to seitch >:| No Koshi lynch. | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:49 Shapelog wrote: Urg, Damdred is modconfrim. OWs, litteraly all cycle has wanted to kill a doc He's still alive for, like, no reason. | ||
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That reasoning is lame. | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:52 Damdred wrote: Then come up with one in 8 minutes since I'm mod confirmed town. And the great thing is it gas to,be koshi or shape to you. Blah blah blah. | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:55 scott31337 wrote: Obi's posting has been worse this cycle than Damdreds I hate the saying but, YOLO right? B/c? | ||
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Rip Obi. Scotts jump is trash so look at him if the game isn't over as well. | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:56 Damdred wrote: But Obi is flailing now so we might have something here. Okay. Scum. | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:58 Koshi wrote: It sadly is impossible. I suck too hard as mafia. And apparently Also as town ![]() lol | ||
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