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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
April 12 2016 09:58 GMT
#821
On April 12 2016 18:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
a) -Tunneled on LS when people were discussing between two mislynches, meaning he would evade suspicion whilst making sure no one actually would sheep him
b) -Constantly comes into the thread with nothing of added value
c) -Really goddamn smug
d) -For no apparent reason has flipped his read on me
e) -Disengaged
##Vote Race Bannon

a) I made a case on LS and tried to get him lynched.
b) See a). I gave reads and have sufficiently explained them
c) I pride myself with an impecable cred. You're jelly and a hater.
d) I never had a scumread on you. One time I said you need to do more and you did.
e) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
April 12 2016 10:09 GMT
#822
On April 12 2016 07:09 Kuragari42 wrote:
I'm liking Tumble as scum. Not only has he voted for 2 flipped town (boxer and GB) but his filter is kind of lame. And if Tumble is scum, art[xp] may be as well because #649, #770/#772 seems like the kind of team bus that he'd do.

What is this assumption based on?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 12 2016 10:34 GMT
#823
On April 12 2016 18:40 Race Bannon wrote:
Damdred
Rare posts with few short phrases, no cases, no real pushes. Now it's LYLO what is he doing?

Mislynched boxer even though he was a townread of his supposed townread.

Had the hubris of EoD-attempting to derail a GB vs Artanis lynch, following an insufficiently explained statement that he has townreads on them, even though he finds it curious that Art is townreading him. Says well at least he was right about GB.

He kept his options for LYLO open, he could vote for LS, TW or me it seems like without breaking continuity. Makes a vote on LS sound like policy though, and since those aren't likely to happen he's free to hop on TW, who I think is town by process of elimination and me.

Kura is the last scum, a new player would't be so absent as town.

Not lynching someone because he's a townread of a townread is preposterous. Rest of this is a towncase: Voted off the town vs town wagon (though I think Tumble is also town so eh), he liked the explanation of my townread on him so that's not a point. Keeping a perspective on others is fine too.

Also why is Kura scum for being inactive when Spikasaur was just as inactive if not more and flipped town? Why is DYH still town despite being inactive? You can't say PoE either because you consider TW town by PoE.
On April 12 2016 18:47 Race Bannon wrote:
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On April 12 2016 18:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
-Contradicts himself time and time again (Calls LS out on TRing CHodge for no reason, does it himself)

I didn't contradict myself then nor anywhen.

Tired of arguing this, you did.

On April 12 2016 18:58 Race Bannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2016 18:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
a) -Tunneled on LS when people were discussing between two mislynches, meaning he would evade suspicion whilst making sure no one actually would sheep him
b) -Constantly comes into the thread with nothing of added value
c) -Really goddamn smug
d) -For no apparent reason has flipped his read on me
e) -Disengaged
##Vote Race Bannon

a) I made a case on LS and tried to get him lynched.
b) See a). I gave reads and have sufficiently explained them
c) I pride myself with an impecable cred. You're jelly and a hater.
d) I never had a scumread on you. One time I said you need to do more and you did.
e) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


a) You didn't seem to try very hard.
b) Your reads on Damdred at least are new, I'll give you that, but it's bad and probably wrong.
d) Then why did you vote me last cycle?
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
April 12 2016 10:59 GMT
#824
On April 12 2016 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Not lynching someone because he's a townread of a townread is preposterous.

Is it? Everyone is working off of the same material so why wouldn't someone at least second guess lynching a townread of a townread?

On April 12 2016 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also why is Kura scum for being inactive when Spikasaur was just as inactive if not more and flipped town? Why is DYH still town despite being inactive?

It makes sense for scum to try to do as little as possible without being first in line to get badmouthed for it. Spika did less than Kura so that made him feel safer. I think he would've been more active if Spika had been more active, if only to avoid being the extremity.

I said I was overwhelmed and chose between you and GB, oblivious to the state of the votes because I checked in too late.

Do you have other scumreads or will you persist to be a burden to the very end?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 12 2016 11:08 GMT
#825
On April 12 2016 19:59 Race Bannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2016 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Not lynching someone because he's a townread of a townread is preposterous.

Is it? Everyone is working off of the same material so why wouldn't someone at least second guess lynching a townread of a townread?

Okay, who are you townreading?
What are the townreads of all those people?
Have you second guessed all those reads?

Show nested quote +
On April 12 2016 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also why is Kura scum for being inactive when Spikasaur was just as inactive if not more and flipped town? Why is DYH still town despite being inactive?

It makes sense for scum to try to do as little as possible without being first in line to get badmouthed for it. Spika did less than Kura so that made him feel safer. I think he would've been more active if Spika had been more active, if only to avoid being the extremity.

I said I was overwhelmed and chose between you and GB, oblivious to the state of the votes because I checked in too late.

Do you have other scumreads or will you persist to be a burden to the very end?

Surely Kura would now be aware of that and be trying harder? Why does it make it more likely for him to be scum rather than simply inactive town?

If you fully read my post you'll see my other scumreads are Gosse and Kura.
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
April 12 2016 11:08 GMT
#826
On April 12 2016 01:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
We had to put my dog to sleep today. Don't count on me doing much.

I'm sincerely sorry about your dog.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 12 2016 11:09 GMT
#827
Also, since you never scumread me and voted me over GB, that suggests he was a townread.
He scumread TW hard. Have you second guessed whether your townread on TW makes sense?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 12 2016 11:10 GMT
#828
On April 12 2016 20:08 Race Bannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2016 01:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
We had to put my dog to sleep today. Don't count on me doing much.

I'm sincerely sorry about your dog.

Thanks, I do appreciate it. Sorry if I'm coming off as rough, just trying to discern your alignment.
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
April 12 2016 11:14 GMT
#829
On April 12 2016 20:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2016 19:59 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 12 2016 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Not lynching someone because he's a townread of a townread is preposterous.

Is it? Everyone is working off of the same material so why wouldn't someone at least second guess lynching a townread of a townread?

Okay, who are you townreading?
What are the townreads of all those people?
Have you second guessed all those reads?

Show nested quote +
On April 12 2016 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also why is Kura scum for being inactive when Spikasaur was just as inactive if not more and flipped town? Why is DYH still town despite being inactive?

It makes sense for scum to try to do as little as possible without being first in line to get badmouthed for it. Spika did less than Kura so that made him feel safer. I think he would've been more active if Spika had been more active, if only to avoid being the extremity.

I said I was overwhelmed and chose between you and GB, oblivious to the state of the votes because I checked in too late.

Do you have other scumreads or will you persist to be a burden to the very end?

Surely Kura would now be aware of that and be trying harder? Why does it make it more likely for him to be scum rather than simply inactive town?

If you fully read my post you'll see my other scumreads are Gosse and Kura.


I did not only second guess your meta read of LS, but rationally took the decision to disregard meta in his case based on what he said about his own meta and the fact that Fidei said he can't read him at all.
I think I went through that analytical process and second guessing accordingly yes.
Indeed, I didn't quite catch that.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 12 2016 11:27 GMT
#830
On April 12 2016 20:14 Race Bannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2016 20:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 12 2016 19:59 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 12 2016 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Not lynching someone because he's a townread of a townread is preposterous.

Is it? Everyone is working off of the same material so why wouldn't someone at least second guess lynching a townread of a townread?

Okay, who are you townreading?
What are the townreads of all those people?
Have you second guessed all those reads?

On April 12 2016 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also why is Kura scum for being inactive when Spikasaur was just as inactive if not more and flipped town? Why is DYH still town despite being inactive?

It makes sense for scum to try to do as little as possible without being first in line to get badmouthed for it. Spika did less than Kura so that made him feel safer. I think he would've been more active if Spika had been more active, if only to avoid being the extremity.

I said I was overwhelmed and chose between you and GB, oblivious to the state of the votes because I checked in too late.

Do you have other scumreads or will you persist to be a burden to the very end?

Surely Kura would now be aware of that and be trying harder? Why does it make it more likely for him to be scum rather than simply inactive town?

If you fully read my post you'll see my other scumreads are Gosse and Kura.


I did not only second guess your meta read of LS, but rationally took the decision to disregard meta in his case based on what he said about his own meta and the fact that Fidei said he can't read him at all.
I think I went through that analytical process and second guessing accordingly yes.
Indeed, I didn't quite catch that.

The point is, you said you expect every townie to second guess any scumread they have made by any townread they have. Firstly, they may have and just didn't post about it. Secondly, I don't exactly keep track of all of it and that seems silly. I'm pretty sure many people haven't. Thirdly, they might have actually gone through that but haven't posted about it.
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
April 12 2016 11:31 GMT
#831
On April 12 2016 20:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Surely Kura would now be aware of that and be trying harder? Why does it make it more likely for him to be scum rather than simply inactive town?

The most memorable thing he did is his recent scumread on TW. I just don't think newblood town would be this indifferent and expect to magically find scum.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 12 2016 11:35 GMT
#832
On April 12 2016 20:31 Race Bannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2016 20:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Surely Kura would now be aware of that and be trying harder? Why does it make it more likely for him to be scum rather than simply inactive town?

The most memorable thing he did is his recent scumread on TW. I just don't think newblood town would be this indifferent and expect to magically find scum.

Okay. Presumably you read Gosse as town and you've said you read me as town. Why do you think his case on me is bad?
What about TW? Why are two, in your eyes townie players casing me and why are you so sure they're wrong, yet seem to be willing to just take the fall and not try to convince them?
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
April 12 2016 11:41 GMT
#833
On April 12 2016 20:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2016 20:14 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 12 2016 20:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 12 2016 19:59 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 12 2016 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Not lynching someone because he's a townread of a townread is preposterous.

Is it? Everyone is working off of the same material so why wouldn't someone at least second guess lynching a townread of a townread?

Okay, who are you townreading?
What are the townreads of all those people?
Have you second guessed all those reads?

On April 12 2016 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also why is Kura scum for being inactive when Spikasaur was just as inactive if not more and flipped town? Why is DYH still town despite being inactive?

It makes sense for scum to try to do as little as possible without being first in line to get badmouthed for it. Spika did less than Kura so that made him feel safer. I think he would've been more active if Spika had been more active, if only to avoid being the extremity.

I said I was overwhelmed and chose between you and GB, oblivious to the state of the votes because I checked in too late.

Do you have other scumreads or will you persist to be a burden to the very end?

Surely Kura would now be aware of that and be trying harder? Why does it make it more likely for him to be scum rather than simply inactive town?

If you fully read my post you'll see my other scumreads are Gosse and Kura.


I did not only second guess your meta read of LS, but rationally took the decision to disregard meta in his case based on what he said about his own meta and the fact that Fidei said he can't read him at all.
I think I went through that analytical process and second guessing accordingly yes.
Indeed, I didn't quite catch that.

The point is, you said you expect every townie to second guess any scumread they have made by any townread they have. Firstly, they may have and just didn't post about it. Secondly, I don't exactly keep track of all of it and that seems silly. I'm pretty sure many people haven't. Thirdly, they might have actually gone through that but haven't posted about it.

I expect everyone to do the second-guessing, and maybe Damdred is town and second-guessed his boxer because of me but kept on voting him anyway or not. At the end of the day it's more likely for scum to say they townread someone who townreads their scumread and mislynch that person regardless of what townies say anyway because it's their agenda.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 12 2016 11:44 GMT
#834
Ughhh
I need someone to come in and make sure I'm not tunneling my ass off. Preferably someone not tunneling on me.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 12 2016 11:46 GMT
#835
On April 12 2016 20:41 Race Bannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2016 20:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 12 2016 20:14 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 12 2016 20:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 12 2016 19:59 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 12 2016 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Not lynching someone because he's a townread of a townread is preposterous.

Is it? Everyone is working off of the same material so why wouldn't someone at least second guess lynching a townread of a townread?

Okay, who are you townreading?
What are the townreads of all those people?
Have you second guessed all those reads?

On April 12 2016 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also why is Kura scum for being inactive when Spikasaur was just as inactive if not more and flipped town? Why is DYH still town despite being inactive?

It makes sense for scum to try to do as little as possible without being first in line to get badmouthed for it. Spika did less than Kura so that made him feel safer. I think he would've been more active if Spika had been more active, if only to avoid being the extremity.

I said I was overwhelmed and chose between you and GB, oblivious to the state of the votes because I checked in too late.

Do you have other scumreads or will you persist to be a burden to the very end?

Surely Kura would now be aware of that and be trying harder? Why does it make it more likely for him to be scum rather than simply inactive town?

If you fully read my post you'll see my other scumreads are Gosse and Kura.


I did not only second guess your meta read of LS, but rationally took the decision to disregard meta in his case based on what he said about his own meta and the fact that Fidei said he can't read him at all.
I think I went through that analytical process and second guessing accordingly yes.
Indeed, I didn't quite catch that.

The point is, you said you expect every townie to second guess any scumread they have made by any townread they have. Firstly, they may have and just didn't post about it. Secondly, I don't exactly keep track of all of it and that seems silly. I'm pretty sure many people haven't. Thirdly, they might have actually gone through that but haven't posted about it.

I expect everyone to do the second-guessing, and maybe Damdred is town and second-guessed his boxer because of me but kept on voting him anyway or not. At the end of the day it's more likely for scum to say they townread someone who townreads their scumread and mislynch that person regardless of what townies say anyway because it's their agenda.

I just find it so oddly specific. Plenty of people have tunneled with townreads saying otherwise. I scumread GB and Damdred, my strongest townread said he's town. You still townread me. Why am I exempt from this but Damdred isn't?
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
April 12 2016 11:47 GMT
#836
On April 12 2016 20:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2016 20:31 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 12 2016 20:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Surely Kura would now be aware of that and be trying harder? Why does it make it more likely for him to be scum rather than simply inactive town?

The most memorable thing he did is his recent scumread on TW. I just don't think newblood town would be this indifferent and expect to magically find scum.

Okay. Presumably you read Gosse as town and you've said you read me as town. Why do you think his case on me is bad?
What about TW? Why are two, in your eyes townie players casing me and why are you so sure they're wrong, yet seem to be willing to just take the fall and not try to convince them?

Because you gave them good reasons to scumread you by being incompetent to deliver scum thus far. What I think they fail to see is scum wouldn't be this bad. They'd be more like the people I've listed as scum.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 12 2016 11:48 GMT
#837
On April 12 2016 20:47 Race Bannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2016 20:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 12 2016 20:31 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 12 2016 20:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Surely Kura would now be aware of that and be trying harder? Why does it make it more likely for him to be scum rather than simply inactive town?

The most memorable thing he did is his recent scumread on TW. I just don't think newblood town would be this indifferent and expect to magically find scum.

Okay. Presumably you read Gosse as town and you've said you read me as town. Why do you think his case on me is bad?
What about TW? Why are two, in your eyes townie players casing me and why are you so sure they're wrong, yet seem to be willing to just take the fall and not try to convince them?

Because you gave them good reasons to scumread you by being incompetent to deliver scum thus far. What I think they fail to see is scum wouldn't be this bad. They'd be more like the people I've listed as scum.

So your sole reason for townreading me is because I'm too scummy to be scum? Nothing else?
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
April 12 2016 12:02 GMT
#838
On April 12 2016 20:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2016 20:47 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 12 2016 20:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 12 2016 20:31 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 12 2016 20:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Surely Kura would now be aware of that and be trying harder? Why does it make it more likely for him to be scum rather than simply inactive town?

The most memorable thing he did is his recent scumread on TW. I just don't think newblood town would be this indifferent and expect to magically find scum.

Okay. Presumably you read Gosse as town and you've said you read me as town. Why do you think his case on me is bad?
What about TW? Why are two, in your eyes townie players casing me and why are you so sure they're wrong, yet seem to be willing to just take the fall and not try to convince them?

Because you gave them good reasons to scumread you by being incompetent to deliver scum thus far. What I think they fail to see is scum wouldn't be this bad. They'd be more like the people I've listed as scum.

So your sole reason for townreading me is because I'm too scummy to be scum? Nothing else?

And the way you seem to get more and more restless the worse your cred gets, yes.
Also PoE.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 12 2016 12:04 GMT
#839
On April 12 2016 21:02 Race Bannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2016 20:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 12 2016 20:47 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 12 2016 20:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 12 2016 20:31 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 12 2016 20:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Surely Kura would now be aware of that and be trying harder? Why does it make it more likely for him to be scum rather than simply inactive town?

The most memorable thing he did is his recent scumread on TW. I just don't think newblood town would be this indifferent and expect to magically find scum.

Okay. Presumably you read Gosse as town and you've said you read me as town. Why do you think his case on me is bad?
What about TW? Why are two, in your eyes townie players casing me and why are you so sure they're wrong, yet seem to be willing to just take the fall and not try to convince them?

Because you gave them good reasons to scumread you by being incompetent to deliver scum thus far. What I think they fail to see is scum wouldn't be this bad. They'd be more like the people I've listed as scum.

So your sole reason for townreading me is because I'm too scummy to be scum? Nothing else?

And the way you seem to get more and more restless the worse your cred gets, yes.
Also PoE.

You keep saying PoE but your scumread on Kura feels PoE-y and not very fleshed out. Also please answer this:
On April 12 2016 20:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2016 20:41 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 12 2016 20:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 12 2016 20:14 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 12 2016 20:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 12 2016 19:59 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 12 2016 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Not lynching someone because he's a townread of a townread is preposterous.

Is it? Everyone is working off of the same material so why wouldn't someone at least second guess lynching a townread of a townread?

Okay, who are you townreading?
What are the townreads of all those people?
Have you second guessed all those reads?

On April 12 2016 19:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also why is Kura scum for being inactive when Spikasaur was just as inactive if not more and flipped town? Why is DYH still town despite being inactive?

It makes sense for scum to try to do as little as possible without being first in line to get badmouthed for it. Spika did less than Kura so that made him feel safer. I think he would've been more active if Spika had been more active, if only to avoid being the extremity.

I said I was overwhelmed and chose between you and GB, oblivious to the state of the votes because I checked in too late.

Do you have other scumreads or will you persist to be a burden to the very end?

Surely Kura would now be aware of that and be trying harder? Why does it make it more likely for him to be scum rather than simply inactive town?

If you fully read my post you'll see my other scumreads are Gosse and Kura.


I did not only second guess your meta read of LS, but rationally took the decision to disregard meta in his case based on what he said about his own meta and the fact that Fidei said he can't read him at all.
I think I went through that analytical process and second guessing accordingly yes.
Indeed, I didn't quite catch that.

The point is, you said you expect every townie to second guess any scumread they have made by any townread they have. Firstly, they may have and just didn't post about it. Secondly, I don't exactly keep track of all of it and that seems silly. I'm pretty sure many people haven't. Thirdly, they might have actually gone through that but haven't posted about it.

I expect everyone to do the second-guessing, and maybe Damdred is town and second-guessed his boxer because of me but kept on voting him anyway or not. At the end of the day it's more likely for scum to say they townread someone who townreads their scumread and mislynch that person regardless of what townies say anyway because it's their agenda.

I just find it so oddly specific. Plenty of people have tunneled with townreads saying otherwise. I scumread GB and Damdred, my strongest townread said he's town. You still townread me. Why am I exempt from this but Damdred isn't?

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I here for a little bit and I do have some interesting thoughts. The first NK implicates GB/RB but the second implicates me very hard. I think scum was trying to push for these mislynches on NK WIFOM it would make sense probably for a full Newbie team on that notion but the problem we don't have a lot of newbies in the game. Also I sorry about your dog too Lex I had a cat that died a couple years ago it affected me a little bit too despite the fact that that cat was kinda mean to me but very niceto my mom but very mean to my dad who bottle fed her as a kitten.
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