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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 16:51:54
March 07 2016 20:59 GMT
#1
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Newbie Student Mafia XX

The cohost(s) of this game are currently nnn_thekushmountains and Tubesock! All Night actions must be submitted (via PM) to them and to me. To PM, click on the inbox, click on new pm, and then type their name in the recipient box.

Important posts
+ Show Spoiler +

Day 1
Night 1
Day 2
Night 2
Day 3
Night 3
Day 4





Introduction:

Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town. It's much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. If the mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win. The town's goal is to lynch all the members of the mafia.

The game is typically very active, so the thread may grow large quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play.

This game will include flavor that is added for fun and effect, but has no impact on game mechanics. The standard rule set for newbie games will be used and follows below.

Please note that all voting will be done in a separate voting thread, located here: Voting thread


Rules:

Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
1. Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post, but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information.
2. Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town.
3. Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role.
4. Comparing role PM times to determine roles.
5. Posting screenshots of your inbox.
6. Posting any PM you receive from a host.
7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
8. Signing up more than once using smurf accounts.
9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits.
10. Sharing accounts with other players. Only you may post on your account.
11. You may not reveal or hint about the identity of your coach. You may not refer to any idea, course of action, etc. as something that was suggested by your coach.
If you feel that any action you are considering may be against the spirit of the game, it is best to contact a host and ensure it is allowed before proceeding.

Posting:

Host Color:
The color blue is reserved for the hosts of the game to make our posts easy to notice. Please do not use it.

Question Color:
The color green is reserved for questions by players for the hosts. Use it to ask the game hosts questions about the rules. Please do us a favor and read the rules before you ask anything.

Smurfs:
Smurfs must PM the host because TL doesn't allow multiple accounts otherwise. If the host is unaware of smurfs, you (and/or your smurf) can be banned for having multiple accounts

Spam:
Spam is not tolerated, nor is any off-topic material. Do not discuss Proleague here. Do not talk about Starcraft II here. Play Mafia here.

Editing:
Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing will result in a warning. After that, you will be modkilled. This is the one part of the site where it is okay to be double posting, even triple-posting. "Editing" includes indirect editing like linking an image, then editing the image. Editing your profile or signature are allowed, but if you edit them for any game-related reasons (ie, breadcrumbing, sending messages, etc) this will be considered out-of-thread posting and will be punished.

Inappropriate posts and use of the report post link:
If you want to post something insulting or inappropriate and know the TL mods would have a problem with it elsewhere, don't post it here. If you do, a host will warn you or modkill you and request that you be banned from future games. The hosts have the final say on what is inappropriate. If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM a host, Flamewheel, or Mig before involving the TL moderation staff or using the report post link. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can appeal to the TL staff normally.

Ban discussions:
Please wait until this game is over to talk about modkills and bans resulting from this game.

Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.

This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM your host if you need to leave the game.

*As someone who has had a lot of medical emergencies and what not, I am a very understanding person. I much rather you also PM me over a concern of a chance to not be able to play than none what so ever.


Out of thread communication:

It is common for mafia to use a medium outside of TL such as QuickTopics or IRC to communicate during the game. Players who have not explicitly been given permission to communicate outside the thread are not allowed to attempt to infiltrate such communication channels. Players who are not mafia are not allowed to communicate about this game outside of the thread.



Voting rules:

1. Voting is done by posting in this thread: Here
2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote: Shapelog or ##Vote Shapelog. Votes must be in bold, and votes not written in the correct fashion will not be counted.
3. No conditional voting.
4. You may vote only for other living players in the thread. You may not vote for yourself.
5. This game uses plurality voting, so whoever has the most votes at the end of the day is lynched. There is no minimum number of votes required to lynch someone. If there is a tie for most votes, whoever most recently had more votes than the other is the person who is up for the lynch.
6. The person who is up for the lynch is whoever has the most votes. Bringing another player up to that number of votes doesn't put him up for the lynch; he has to have the most votes.
7. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.



Signups:

6 spots in this game are reserved for new players*. The other 7 spots in this game are open to anyone, but new players still take priority and can possibly bump other players from these spots. These numbers are flexible, but the goal is to bring new members in and give them a chance to play. If you're a forum regular, please bear in mind there will be newbies in this game and act appropriately to introduce them to TL Mafia.
*new player - played in 3 or fewer TL mafia games. If this would be your 4th game, you would still be considered a new player

Signup for the game by posting /in in the thread if you are new, or /in: Open if you are not. It may take several weeks for the game to fill up so you are responsible for being aware when the game begins. I will send a one PM to players when the sign-ups are nearing full, and another one 1 day before starting. If you learn you cannot play when I PM you, please let me know ASAP.


Game-specific rules:

Modkills:
This game follows the TL Mafia Ban List. If you are modkilled, your punishment will go beyond being eliminated from this game. Please refer to it for questions about your punishment. If you want to use this game to sit out your ban, please post in the Ban List.

Replacements
This game uses replacements. Players who are inactive may be replaced by other players.

Clues:
The role PMs and night posts are purely flavor text. There are no clues.

PMs
PMs and out of thread communication are not allowed in this game, unless your role explicitly allows them.

Activity:
You are expected to keep up with the thread and participate in discussion daily. If for some reason you anticipate that you will not be available for a period longer than 24 hours, please notify a host ahead of time. If the host deems a player is inactive, they may be warned or removed from the game.

I will be looking for at least 3 posts per cycle, so 1 post every 24 hours. Failure to live up to this will result in you breaking the Activity requirements and thus being warned or removed from the game.

Time Cycle:
This game will follow a 48 hour day/24 hour night cycle. Any votes after the deadline will not count and the game will be put on hold until the night post is up. The deadline for each cycle will be 23:00 GMT (+00:00) (want to pick a time that suits everyone as best as I can). Votes cast up to :59 will be counted, but :00 will not.




On February 20 2013 21:59 Acrofales wrote:
Newbie-specific stuff


1.It's already in the rules, but remember, no editing. If you feel you must correct your post, please make a second post to clarify your statements. You may put EBWOP ("Edit by way of post," a handy acronym invented by semioldguy) at the beginning of your post to indicate that you are clearing up a point you made. If your EBWOP post is several posts after your original, please quote your original post in your EBWOP post for the sake of clarity.

2. Only sign up if you know you will have the time available to properly play the game. It is essential that players remain active in a newbie game, so only /in if you are able to play to your fullest.

3. If there is any sort of issue, you are unsure about some mechanic, or you are just wondering if your devilish scheme is even allowed, feel free to PM me, or ask in-thread with green text. Don't feel shy; these games are meant to be a place to learn and be open.

4. Behave as gentlemen (or ladies). Things get heated here, but personal attacks will not be acceptable, and will be dealt with accordingly. Remember, this is a game; have fun and happy scumhunting!

5. Please do not talk about any ongoing games either in-game or pre-game. This can affect other games and is unacceptable. Please do not refer to outside-of- thread activity of players in this thread.

6. If you receive coaching, don't tell town about it.

7. glhf!


>>> Link to Guides! <<<


Shout out to Kitaman27 for helping me set my 1st game up, helping balance and for most of this OP. You rock lord kitaman!
Shout out to Half the Sky for balance help and for helping me. Thanks sky!
Shout out to Trfel and Disinformation for doing a analysis of this game for the newbies!
Shout out to Gerpit for also doing one!
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 16:44:35
March 07 2016 20:59 GMT
#2
Player List

The Newblood
1) Race Bannon
2) Kuragari42
3) Spikasaur Banished to the Shadow Realm (Modkilled) Day 3, VT
4) Gossemerr Killed night 4, Chief Wiggums, the cop!
5) Fidei86 Killed N2, VT
6) DoYouHas

The Slightly old Blood

7) LightningStrike
8) Artanis[xp] Lynched Day 3, Dung Glatt, the mafia goon.
9) Damdred
10)boxerfred Sacrificed Day 1, Buster the vet.
11) CHodge killed N1, Person (VT)
12) Tumblewood
13) GlowingBear Lynched Day 2, Person VT

Coach List
1) Alakaslam As Scum Coach, Chupizi
2) BlazingHand As Town Coach, BanhammerX
3) Half the Sky As Town Coach, The Hangover, coach edition.
4) Raynpelikoneet As Town Coach, Townlzebub

Exchange Students
1) Scott1337
2)
3)

The Hecklers.
1) Rels
2) Kitaman27

The Ban and Man Inn!
1)
2)
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-29 20:50:54
March 07 2016 21:00 GMT
#3
SET UP AND GAME INFORMATION

This is a mafia game for 13 players. 3 players will be randomly selected as mafia. All role assignments will be random as well.

The town's win condition:
The town wins when all mafia are eliminated.

The mafia's win condition:
The mafia wins if the number of mafia players alive is equal or greater to the number of town players alive or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Each night, the mafia can choose to kill 1 player.

When a player dies in the game, the player's alignment (that is, which team the player wins with), and role will be revealed. This reveal is guaranteed to be accurate.

This game uses a semi-open 2of4 setup. The list of possible roles will be revealed, but the number of each role will not. All roles aren't necessarily present. Multiple players may share the same role. The mafia will not be informed of the setup ahead of time. For this set up, I will randomly choose a set up from the following:

  • Doc, cop vs goon RB Gf
  • Doc vig. Vs above
  • Vet cop vs above
  • Vet vig vs above




Mechanics

 This setup uses a Daystart
 Cops get results in the form of Town/mafia
 Doctors prevent one night kill.
 Kills are indistinguishable.
 Mafia KP is fractional.
 Night order is RB -> Medic visits for the night -> KP’s -> Cop Checks
 Vig shots are refunded on RB
 Town is not allowed to No lynch.
Townies do not know if they were Roleblocked.
Doctors will not know if their heal saved.
People will not know if they are healed or not.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-04 21:08:33
March 07 2016 21:50 GMT
#4
Roles:



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Lou: Uh, Chief, I think there was a dead body in there.
Chief Wiggum: I thought that too, until he said yard trimmings. You gotta learn to listen, Lou.



You are Chief Wiggums, the cop! With your amazing crime fighting skills, once per night you may check a person and learn their alignment. A course, if someone leaves doughnuts or if your driving to fast (RB), you might get distracted from crime.You win with town.


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"Eins, zwei, drei... Ugh, I do not think ve brought enough body bags."



You are the medic! You haz This Uber Gun Ya! If you have a charge (1 shot = 1 charge and so on) you may uber someone at night. The person who is ubered will survived all the little rockets fired at him from the red team! However, your target, yourself, and the thread will not know/be told if your uber saved someone! You win with town.


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Who needs state of the art technology? You got a Box!!!!



You are solid snake IN A BOX!!!!!! Also a trained assassin and part time illegitimate Vigilante! Once per night, you may select one person to kill. A course, you need a box (1 shot = 1 box and so forth) to make a kill. If the recycle man came the night before (RB) then you get your bullet/shot back. You win with town.


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Jamie wants big boom.



You are Buster!, M9's test dummy and a veteran mythbuster! You have put yourself in the way of danger for science more times than any other being! This has made you extra strong! So strong, that you need two KP's in order to get rid of you. Or a High power, rocket sled. Which ever one is more closest I suppose. You win with town.


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Power to the people, I am sure they will use logic!



You are a person (VT)! You have no speical powers, but play the most important role! VOTING! You win with town


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I am going to beat you!

You are Dung Glatt, the mafia goon. You might not hold any powers, but you can sure enforces your team motives. You will receive a QT with your fellow mafia players in your role PM. You win with mafia!


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Hello Sir, would you like free healthcare?



You are a Telemarketer, the mafia RB. Once per night you may call someone and stop them from doing anything but talk to you for that night. And since you are a Telemarketer, they never know who called them and often forget if they were call in the 1st place. You will receive a QT with your fellow mafia players in your role PM. You win with mafia!


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LARRY! I am so sorry ma, I have been looking for this guy name Larry for 2 years now an... LARRY I NEED A PRICECHECK! -Joe



You are Larry, the mafia godfather! Due to your mysterious nature, most times people will not know who you are, allowing yourself to blend in form those nasty cops. You will receive a QT with your fellow mafia players in your role PM. You win with mafia!
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 07 2016 21:58 GMT
#5
/in
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-07 22:03:33
March 07 2016 22:03 GMT
#6
##shoot Half the Sky

/in
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 07 2016 22:18 GMT
#7
On March 08 2016 07:03 NocturneMage wrote:
##shoot Half the Sky

/in

You sure you want to deal with me lol.
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I had rolled scum in Cell Mafia and I trying to change my meta because of it lol.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-07 22:20:48
March 07 2016 22:20 GMT
#8
I almost want to join so that I can get your ass policy lynched Mage...

(edit: although I can't for a bunch of reasons....everyone else, please feel free to policy lynch him)

<3
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 07 2016 22:56 GMT
#9
/cohost or /coach or whatever is needed
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 07 2016 23:09 GMT
#10
On March 08 2016 07:56 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
/cohost or /coach or whatever is needed

Want to cohost?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 07 2016 23:14 GMT
#11
/In

Trying to policy lynch mages
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-08 02:02:05
March 08 2016 01:59 GMT
#12
It has come to my attention that Trfrel and disinformation want to do a analysis of this game. I am completely fine with that. If you oppose, PM me and we will talk. Otherwise, they will be given the go ahead.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
March 08 2016 12:56 GMT
#13
/in as nb
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 08 2016 13:32 GMT
#14
On March 08 2016 21:56 Race Bannon wrote:
/in as nb

my mate (= cool to see you playing again!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 08 2016 16:21 GMT
#15
A bit of an off-topic question but i have always wondered what happens in C9++ setup if you happen to roll more than 5 C's or more than 4 D's, V's or N's? Why doesn't the "introduction of the setup" ever give an answer to this?
table for two on a tv tray
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 08 2016 16:48 GMT
#16
On March 09 2016 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
A bit of an off-topic question but i have always wondered what happens in C9++ setup if you happen to roll more than 5 C's or more than 4 D's, V's or N's? Why doesn't the "introduction of the setup" ever give an answer to this?

Here is what kita said
People tend to freak out about the possibility of those completely unlikely scenarios like CCCCCC, so I'd recommend capping it off at CCCC (for instance the 5th-7th C would become a VT) for each letter. It doesn't really affect the setup because of the odds for that to happen are so low, but it gives people peace of mind. It also makes things easier to read.

examples of 6 letter setups that does not included the VT rule btw:
CCCCCC = 3 parity Cops
DDDDDD= 3 doctors etc.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-08 16:53:26
March 08 2016 16:52 GMT
#17
So you didn't include them because they are "extremely unlike to happen" or what?
If you happen to roll 5 V's do you just re-roll?
Or do you make the "over 4 or 5 letter" VT's?
table for two on a tv tray
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 08 2016 17:24 GMT
#18
On March 09 2016 01:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you didn't include them because they are "extremely unlike to happen" or what?
If you happen to roll 5 V's do you just re-roll?
Or do you make the "over 4 or 5 letter" VT's?

I prob will just re roll in that situation. I am still going over the chart and haven't determine yet about how making the extra letter a VT would impact the game. Even changing any 5th letter to a T and adding a VT has the chance to not alter mafia right now.

I need to revise it anyway, and it was posted because players were signing up and i felt like they needed to know how the game would be runned.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-08 17:29:11
March 08 2016 17:28 GMT
#19
My math could by wrong but I believe the odds of rolling exactly 6 C's would be 7 * .15^6 * .85 = 0.00006777. So essentially you'd need to roll the setup 15000 times before it occurred. Something like DDDDD is like three times as likely, but still rare enough that it's probably not worth listing those.

I guess it's personal preference how those crazy situations would be handled.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 08 2016 17:38 GMT
#20
On March 09 2016 02:28 kitaman27 wrote:
My math could by wrong but I believe the odds of rolling exactly 6 C's would be 7 * .15^6 * .85 = 0.00006777. So essentially you'd need to roll the setup 15000 times before it occurred. Something like DDDDD is like three times as likely, but still rare enough that it's probably not worth listing those.

I guess it's personal preference how those crazy situations would be handled.

Just to put that in funny terms, you have a much greater chance of becoming dead from a colonoscopy than rolling 6 of the same letters (minus N's which % prob still holds true)
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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