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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 01 2016 18:46 GMT
#133
/in
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 01 2016 23:59 GMT
#146
Sooooo, who wants to coach me? Never had a proper coaching before.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 04 2016 23:50 GMT
#170
Howdy all, I'm town, who else? (hi5 Artanis)
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 04 2016 23:54 GMT
#172
On April 05 2016 08:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Yay I rolled town which I really wanted so I can change my play style. Let's find scum!

Change your playstyle from what to what?
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 05 2016 00:12 GMT
#176
On April 05 2016 08:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2016 08:54 DoYouHas wrote:
On April 05 2016 08:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Yay I rolled town which I really wanted so I can change my play style. Let's find scum!

Change your playstyle from what to what?

From being a person who was town read for emotions to actually be town read for content. Ask Lexus for why

As someone that was a bit thrown in (i think it was unknown mafia) by your sudden capslock emotion, I approve.
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Personally, I would like to hear from the newbies. What is their experience with mafia, why they are town, just generally being active. If we can get the newbies active they won't be easy scapegoats for scum and we should have a more productive d1.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 05 2016 00:42 GMT
#180
On April 05 2016 09:30 Gossemerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2016 09:12 DoYouHas wrote:
Personally, I would like to hear from the newbies. What is their experience with mafia, why they are town, just generally being active. If we can get the newbies active they won't be easy scapegoats for scum and we should have a more productive d1.


Are you implying we would be easy scapegoats based solely on #/length of posts? Maybe you want newbies to post a lot to clutter up the thread and muddle pro-town progress

I'm implying that lack of experience tends to make people easier targets for scum looking for reasons to accuse players. The upshot is that same lack of experience usually makes it painfully obvious what a newbie's alignment is if they are active.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 06 2016 04:21 GMT
#233
I think TW is likely scum.

His "damn, caught me" comment to Artanis' list caught my eye. Mafia are more likely to play off pressure (even fake pressure) as a joke instead of flatly denying.

On April 05 2016 12:48 Tumblewood wrote:
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On April 05 2016 12:25 GlowingBear wrote:
What's your opinion on his opening, Tumblewood?

I'm going to go case-read on this because I can't really judge which case it is yet.
Case 1: Artanis is town and is using that post to judge people's reactions.
Case 2: Artanis is town and is using that post to lighten up the thread and get things started.
Case 3: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear that he's trying to get reactions.
Case 4: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear carefree.
Of these, case 4 is the worst and case 1 is probably the best. I think that his opening is NAI [for newbies, that stands for "Not Alignment Indicative"] for now. Your vote is entirely throwaway or entirely overweighted. Really it's just D1 start and we're reading into nothing.

This post doesn't do anything. It's made to look like it does something but it argues itself into nothing. Step 1: let's analyze Art's play. Step 2: GB's vote was a waste and we are reading into nothing.

##Vote: Tumblewood

This also makes me suspicious of Art, but that is unflipped association for now.

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@Damdred, I'm usually riding the same mental groove as you by now. I'm hoping you just aren't trying yet, because I disagree with you on LS, who seems pretty townie to me.
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@The rest of you. Get talking. We can do better than the standard heavy activity right before deadline and a lame 47 other hours. If I end up being the activity police here we are in trouble.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 06 2016 04:32 GMT
#235
It is an overwrought post. it doesn't do anything, yet it is written to look like it does. That is scummy.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 06 2016 04:42 GMT
#236
You probably won't take my word on it about the first part where he tries to joke off being called scum, but I'm right about it being a mafia trait even if it isn't 100% condemning on its own. I've done it as scum, I've had mafia teammates who have done it, and I've caught mafia doing it.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 06 2016 22:10 GMT
#350
I'm here, catching up.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 06 2016 22:19 GMT
#354
Flipping my read on TW. Aside from telling me I was grasping at straws (which I wasn't, just working off a small sample), his response wasn't bad and his posting since has been much more townie.

##Unvote: TW
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 06 2016 22:39 GMT
#374
On April 07 2016 07:31 Damdred wrote:
And I vote boxer like a baddie.

Tumble and kur are interesting, I'd be willing to switch to either I think.

Why TW? You weren't on board when I pushed him earlier and now when I think he is town you flip?
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 06 2016 22:51 GMT
#386
Yeah, I'm up for it. GB and Boxer don't appeal to me for the lynch.
##Vote: Fidei86
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 06 2016 23:19 GMT
#425
On April 07 2016 08:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Fidei, please shit townie rainbows if you're actually town.
He doesn't have to, essentially modconfirmed ftw.
On April 07 2016 07:59 Fidei86 wrote:
because that's kind of annoying. my first ml :'(

Sry I tried to lynch you Fid.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 06 2016 23:59 GMT
#429
He said it right before the deadline. Seems likely to me he did not see Damdred's vote that saved him, which was also right before deadline. He has no reason to lie right there and his pointing to his record of no ML's ending shows his focus had moved past the concerns of this game.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 08 2016 19:23 GMT
#561
Yeah... TW and Art are scum. GB very likely not scum, if only because his opening posts remind me of town GB and it is super unlikely that he would be scum with Art. Give me a bit to put together my cases on them.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 08 2016 20:15 GMT
#565
Tumblewood

+ Show Spoiler [My original thoughts] +
On April 06 2016 13:21 DoYouHas wrote:
I think TW is likely scum.

His "damn, caught me" comment to Artanis' list caught my eye. Mafia are more likely to play off pressure (even fake pressure) as a joke instead of flatly denying.

Show nested quote +
On April 05 2016 12:48 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 05 2016 12:25 GlowingBear wrote:
What's your opinion on his opening, Tumblewood?

I'm going to go case-read on this because I can't really judge which case it is yet.
Case 1: Artanis is town and is using that post to judge people's reactions.
Case 2: Artanis is town and is using that post to lighten up the thread and get things started.
Case 3: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear that he's trying to get reactions.
Case 4: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear carefree.
Of these, case 4 is the worst and case 1 is probably the best. I think that his opening is NAI [for newbies, that stands for "Not Alignment Indicative"] for now. Your vote is entirely throwaway or entirely overweighted. Really it's just D1 start and we're reading into nothing.

This post doesn't do anything. It's made to look like it does something but it argues itself into nothing. Step 1: let's analyze Art's play. Step 2: GB's vote was a waste and we are reading into nothing.

##Vote: Tumblewood

This also makes me suspicious of Art, but that is unflipped association for now.


He pushes all 3 wagons from D1. 2/3 of which are solid town, 3/3 I think are town.
1.
On April 07 2016 07:08 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm unconvinced by the case on LS, and skeptical of the case on RB (could easily just be a newbie who's not used to this). Boxerfred is a sensible if shallow case... I'm not feeling great about it, but there's really nothing better going on right now.

2.
On April 07 2016 07:25 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2016 07:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 07 2016 07:16 Tumblewood wrote:
I don't understand this case for GB... It's because he did something to stir discussion but didn't make a play on it? I'm just not seeing very much there.

Basically for me it's:
-Pretend to be playing along with my discussion starter
-Does fuck all after
-Comes back to the thread with reads, never did anything with said discussion starter
-Calls boxerfred scum citing that he usually plays as scum and doesn't as town when he hasn't really done much at all yet. Also he hasn't dropped the Damdred read at all unlike what GB said.

Basically he hasn't followed up on what he said he was doing and his read on BF seems made up.

Damn, looked back at that original BF read... I understand the read progression part, but "usually more useless as town" is not a reason for a read ever.
I feel a lot stronger about this than boxerfred. ##Vote GB

3.
On April 07 2016 07:52 Tumblewood wrote:
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On April 07 2016 07:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Okay I'm back.
Who's up for shenannies?

I assume you mean Fidei? I'd be up for shenannies if I thought they would work, but Fidei is a dice roll at best.


Notice that even though he says he would be up for the shenanigans, he doesn't actually move his vote even though there was time, and it would have worked. This fits perfectly with the mafia tendency to split their votes when it is multiple town on the chopping block for EoD.

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His list post doesn't add up:
On April 08 2016 02:40 Tumblewood wrote:
top scum reads Fidei, Goss
scum leans RB, GB
top town reads CHodge, Damdred
town lean on LS
null on art and DYH
no read on Kura and Spike because they've done nothing yet


First off, having Fidei as your top scumread when there is a huge reason to think he is town is dumb.
Secondly, Goss is bigger scumread than GB at this point based on 1 post? GB held TW's vote for d1 based on more than that.
Most importantly, "null on art". TW has defended Art twice, agreed with Art's case enough to vote for GB, and pushed Art's agenda with the shennanigans. For someone who clearly is siding with Art, a null read is just scum hedging.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 08 2016 20:21 GMT
#568
On April 09 2016 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Art, is pretty simple why you're scum.

You're scum because you had a clear scumread on me that you keep pushing without reconsidering it or without actually caring that much for other people (kinda like a tunnel)

But then, while your target IS getting lynched, you propose a shenannie. And it's not a case of not knowing who to lynched. I didn't found a single post where you consider I'm town ONCE. You just kept straight calling me mafia.

The part where you say neither me and race were here to defend ourselves is bullshit. Fidei wasn't either and it doesn't matter whether he wasn't becshse he was playing Dota or because he was busy saving a whale from Eskimos.

To those wondering what is the mafia morivation behind that: mislynching a townie and keep people discussing the lynch on another townie he was already easily pushing


+1. You just wrote most of my case.

I'll add that if Art was genuinely uncertain enough on your lynch that he would lead the shenanigans off of it, he would not have been so quick to jump right back on you. It seems to me that Art was trying to stay ahead of the curve, propose shenanigans before someone else could. Tie up votes on candidates he knew to be town.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 08 2016 20:24 GMT
#571
##Vote: Tumblewood

Happy to vote Art as well.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 08 2016 20:27 GMT
#574
On April 07 2016 08:02 Shapelog wrote:
Final vote count




Boxerfred (4): GlowingBear, LightningStrike, Tumblewood, Damdred, Fidei86, Damdred
Fidei86 (3): Artanis[Xp]. Damdred, DoYouHas, Spikasuar
GlowingBear (2): Artanis[Xp], CHodge, Kuragari42, Tumblewood
Tumblewood (1): DoYouHas, boxerfred
Race Bannon (1): CHodge, Gossemerr, CHodge,
LightningStrike (1): Race Bannon
Gossemerr (1): Fidei86,

Non-Voters (0):



Currently, boxerfred is set to be lynched. The deadline is in . Make sure all voting is done in the voting thread here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted. Not voting will result in a warning.

Please stand by for Night post/ Do not post till it is up.

It appears you didn't.
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