Newbie Student Mafia XX

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Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

March 23 2016 21:23 GMT

#94

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Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 01 2016 19:22 GMT

#134

On March 08 2016 06:00 Shapelog wrote:

 Mafia KP is fractional.
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Could someone awesome explain this to me? :D

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 01 2016 20:35 GMT

#143

Oh! Ok! Thanks all!

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 05 2016 00:30 GMT

#179

On April 05 2016 09:12 DoYouHas wrote:
Personally, I would like to hear from the newbies. What is their experience with mafia, why they are town, just generally being active. If we can get the newbies active they won't be easy scapegoats for scum and we should have a more productive d1.

Are you implying we would be easy scapegoats based solely on #/length of posts? Maybe you want newbies to post a lot to clutter up the thread and muddle pro-town progress

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 05 2016 20:08 GMT

#223

On April 06 2016 05:01 Damdred wrote:
LS might be a good lynch I remembered this game is a thing.

Could you explain why you think so?

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 06 2016 04:25 GMT

#234

Tumbleweed was literally responding to GlowingBear's question of Art's opening. I think you are tunneling pretty hard.

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 06 2016 16:20 GMT

#287

I'm getting a scummy vibe from Race Bannon. My reasoning:

1. Early posts are fluff, no real added value.

2. This post: He says CHodge is voting a townie (Himself), but CHodge made a clear post about why he was voting him - which is a town characteristic. Doesn't really offer a counter argument - instead responds by dodging the question. He then votes LS seemingly out of nowhere - I guess because his townie read on CHodge.

On April 06 2016 22:42 Race Bannon wrote:

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I meant the townvibe coming off of CHodge is obvious but he happens to be voting a townie, so I expect scum to encourage people to sheep him.

##LightingStrike

3. Then he does try to explain, which lacks confidence IMO. And on top of that he goes against his own advice of sheeping as a mafia trait and explains his LS vote as a good lynch based on others and not his own opinions.

On April 07 2016 00:04 Race Bannon wrote:
It could be anyone. Probably a lurker but I think others expressed issues with LS as well so it's a good lynch.

So I think RB is a possible mafia which is best read I have thus far.
##Vote: Race Bannon

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 06 2016 22:25 GMT

#360

I think the case on Boxer is pretty weak. Art's case on GB is stronger, but I don't feel like its strong enough to switch from my own read currently.

Also, CHodge why the flip?

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 06 2016 22:26 GMT

#361

And @those saying I'm leaning scum why?

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 07 2016 01:55 GMT

#433

OK so that last minute flip fest was interesting. Going to read and post my thoughts in a bit. I think we need to look at who flipped and why.

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 07 2016 17:27 GMT

#453

OK, I agree my last post was definitely was poor form as a townie. Was really confused by the sudden flips and made a rash post before realizing I was tired and just went to bed. But I’ll make up for it here with the reads I promised. Also not going to comment in length about my choice to vote Race, I set out my D1 read and stuck to it.

Thoughts on the last minute flips: we basically had two wagons set up there at the end which ended with boxer lynched. I think it’s fair to assume that 1-2 mafia ended up on boxer (highly doubtful all three would be on it.) So those 4 are: GlowingBear, LightnightStrike, Fidei86, and Damdred.

First Fidei: I’m inclined to believe his near death post as truth, had no reason to lie when it look like he was dead. Only case would be if Damdred and him were scheming together with the combo of that (almost town confirming post) and Dam’s super late flip. Cannot read too much into that at this time but it will be good for us to keep in mind moving forward by keeping an eye on both of their actions both independently and when analyzed together.

For now I read Fidei86 as town with the above coupled with his great analysis post today.

Now GB: I feel his case against Boxer was pretty weak and then he just stopped posting in the thread after he *maybe* thought he would be lynched. Leaning scum to me currently. Would love his thoughts after the ML.
GlowingBear maybe mafia

LS: Ok right off the bat I liked his anlysis on early analysis on CHodge:
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On April 06 2016 22:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up and I think CHodge is Town for a few reasons.
1. His approach to the game is quite different than a normal newbie regarding Vet players like myself and Artanis.
2. He been more thinking critically than me and everyone else up to this point.

But if you take a look at his filter after that it is literally filled with 1 liners. Asks questions mainly that seem very very uninspired. He is tip-toeing around and not offering any analysis on whom he thinks could be mafia and why. He votes Boxer out of nowhere without analysis. Very scummy IMO.
LightningStrike currently lacks inspiring confident posting – my read is likely mafia

Finally Damdred: My read is poor on Dam right now. Most of posts do not offer significant analysis. Very wishy-washy at the end of the day with stating multiple lynch candidates. Decides to stay on boxer for unknown reason.
Damdred neutral to maybe scum right now

Now the peeps on Fidei86: Art, DYH, and Spike:

Start with Art whom started this whole wagon shen:

On April 07 2016 07:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Do we have the people to switch to Fidei? I really actually believe in him being far more likely to start playing dota 2h before deadline and not check in before as scum than as town.

So he says this and then stays on Fidei even when Fidei comes back which would be a town trait according to him. Before all of this mess he is pushing GB super hard @ post #260, then suddenly drops it to start the wagon.

On April 07 2016 07:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm also taking full credit when GB flips scum.

So maybe I’m reading to much into this because the mixed up did create a lot of activity for later analysis which could have been his plan all along, but I’m currently reading it as a scummy.
Artanis is maybe mafia

Now DYH: I have no idea. I had scummy vibes coming from early on but that is purely gut.
DYH is neutral

Spika: pretty absent, maybe anti-town behaviors initially.
Spikasaur is maybe mafia based purely on anti-town comments

Others:
Kuragari42: Like his dislike of the wagons and of the Boxer case by BG

On April 07 2016 07:04 Kuragari42 wrote:
I'm going to vote GB bc he was who I was leaning scum on earlier today and now he is pushing a BF lynch that I don't see reason behind.

Other than that not much to go by, leaning town on Kura

Tumblewood: I like his reads and analysis thus far. Seems not afraid to make a case, like with GB, and is willing to put is nickel down. Seems very pro-town to me right now.
Tumblewood maybe town

CHodge: Pro-town with posts and analysis. Town vibes
CHodge maybe town

Race still likely mafia based on my before post coupled with lack of activity since.

Summary of my reads:
Likely Mafia:
Race Bannon, LightningStrike
Maybe Mafia:
Artanis[xp], GlowingBear, Damdred, Spikasaur
No Clue:
Kuragari42, DoYouHas
Maybe Town:
CHodge, Tumblewood
Likely Town:
Fidei86

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 07 2016 17:55 GMT

#456

Also Fiedei: third date bro? Step it up earlier haha.

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 07 2016 18:05 GMT

#458

what? read my above

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 07 2016 18:18 GMT

#462

Hey Tumble why do you have such a strong read on Fidei? - I agree that he is not cleared, but it seems like you are reading him strongly scum through only disagreeing with his analysis?

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 08 2016 17:29 GMT

#549

I'm gonna throw my 2c into the @ GB case. These posts are kinda funny:

On April 06 2016 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
Yesterday I was auditioning all day long. Here I am today

On April 07 2016 04:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Whoopsie I was here but I forgot to do stuff

On April 07 2016 05:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Deadline is today, right?
I am kinda busy, was going to put some effiort at midnight. Oh, well.

On April 07 2016 05:23 GlowingBear wrote:

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I would if I played yesterday. But I didn't.

On April 07 2016 05:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Still, I need to read the 5 pages as a whole

On April 07 2016 06:35 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm heading to my classes, I won't be here on deadline I believe, so I'm placing my vote on boxerfred.

I'll try to come back to see how the vote thread is going.

I'm town. I'll put effort tonight, I promise.

On April 08 2016 13:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I've read almost everything, kinda got bored at the last 3 pages.

Artanis how does it feel to be mafia?

So many posts about nothing - overly apologetic. If GB had town interest at heart GB would actually follow up. The last
comment about being bored is completely useless. No real reads on anyone? Besides a few small one liners on me and some others. But GB pretty much ignores my longer analysis post.

On April 08 2016 12:44 GlowingBear wrote:

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Really weird soft defense.

On April 08 2016 13:05 GlowingBear wrote:

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I dislike this. Goss hardly react to stuff, and the only thing he does is to write a case after a townie is already pushing the guy

I would be ok with a GB lynch at this point. Would still like to see more thought content and process from LS who was another of my scum reads.
@GB Anyways mentioned in my analysis earlier I'd like to hear about your thoughts and if you have any strong reads.

Also @ Fidei, you were reading me top scum before, what are your thoughts now?

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 08 2016 17:36 GMT

#551

OK in the sense that I am for it. That post is a push for GB.

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 08 2016 17:38 GMT

#552

TW any thoughts on GB? Or anymore on Fidei as he is your other top scum?

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 08 2016 18:48 GMT

#559

@ Race Bannon can you talk more about your thoughts on GB? You are hard scum reading LS due to lack of content, which I agree with in my analysis as well. But GB is basically doing the same thing.

Also some input from Spika would help. We should consolidate our thoughts on GB and move forward as a unified town.

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 08 2016 20:05 GMT

#563

On April 08 2016 23:27 Kuragari42 wrote:

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Sorry about the lurking, I've been pretty busy irl. I am however half way through a post-by-post analysis of the game.

This post struck me as something I should point out.

By vote analysis you can determine that Me/GB/TW are most likely not your scum team.

Kur what are your thoughts on anyone else in the game? Particularity on RB and TW

Gossemerr

United States195 Posts

April 08 2016 23:46 GMT

#596

On April 09 2016 08:34 LightningStrike wrote:

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On April 09 2016 08:28 GlowingBear wrote:

On April 09 2016 08:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On April 09 2016 07:13 GlowingBear wrote:

On April 09 2016 06:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On April 09 2016 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:

On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On April 09 2016 05:23 GlowingBear wrote:

On April 09 2016 05:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On April 09 2016 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Art, is pretty simple why you're scum.

You're scum because you had a clear scumread on me that you keep pushing without reconsidering it or without actually caring that much for other people (kinda like a tunnel)

But then, while your target IS getting lynched, you propose a shenannie. And it's not a case of not knowing who to lynched. I didn't found a single post where you consider I'm town ONCE. You just kept straight calling me mafia.

The part where you say neither me and race were here to defend ourselves is bullshit. Fidei wasn't either and it doesn't matter whether he wasn't becshse he was playing Dota or because he was busy saving a whale from Eskimos.

To those wondering what is the mafia morivation behind that: mislynching a townie and keep people discussing the lynch on another townie he was already easily pushing

I have reconsidered it. Then you came back and posted more excuses. I have gone over your filter twice already in the past.
There is a difference between going afk to play DotA 2 2 hours before deadline or having uni. One is much more of a conscious choice than the other.

is there something on day1 that made you think I'm town?

Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring.

Well, then I just confirm my theory that there wasn't a single thing that would make you be afraid of lynching me.

It's not a narrative, Art. You have a guy you think is Mafia but you decide to vote someone else and keep this scumread alive. It doesn't make sense.

In other words: what made you think that having shenannies was better than lynching me?

Because shit was hectic and my mind was going everywhere with all the lynches going on. I wanted to hear more from both you and RB and neither of you were there nor had a chance to be there, whereas Fidei did and elected not to. That drove me to want to lynch him.

Did you have any reason to scumread fidei?

You've said you wanted to lunch him but didn't give a single reason to why he is mafia. That's why I'm asking.

James decided to play Dota instead of playing the game at EoD hence the gif of the guy disappearing.

What I still don't understand is why Artanis stayed with the Fidie vote even after he came back. And then didn't jump back on GB or switch to boxer. Too many other mafia on boxer maybe?

Agreeing with others on the Art case; from my offline notes--
1. D1 pushes GB very hard. 2. drops it and causes ML in the chaos 3. N1 doesnt seem to care about the ML 4. D2 brings back his push on GB, which if GB flips town he can just refer back to his earlier thoughts and have an explanation.

I feel like we have strong cases on GB and Art collectively -- should consolidate and agree on one to lynch. I don't want to have a weird wagon like D1. Much more likely to lynch a scum with more than 4 votes on a single player-- less chance for wagon and flipping.

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