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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 25 2016 16:11 GMT
#97
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Promising to post at most 2 pages of filter per cycle for my own sanity+ Show Spoiler +
Self control pls work ONE TIME
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 25 2016 17:35 GMT
#100
On March 26 2016 01:54 Trfel wrote:
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On March 26 2016 01:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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Self control pls work ONE TIME
I almost want to play just so I can mislynch you.....

I almost want you to play just so I can mislynch you too <3
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 26 2016 12:59 GMT
#105
On March 08 2016 06:00 Shapelog wrote:
SET UP AND GAME INFORMATION

[b]This game uses a semi-open C9++ setup. The list of possible roles will be revealed, but the number of each role will not. All roles aren't necessarily present. Multiple players may share the same role. The mafia will not be informed of the setup ahead of time. For this set up, I will random.org 7 numbers from 1-100. Depending on the number, they fall in certain categories:

• 1-50 = T (Townie. This actually directly influences scum powerroles. and mafia strength)
• 51-65 = C (Cop)
• 66-75 = D (Doctor)
• 76-85 = V (Vigilante)
• 86-100 =N (Vet/Name VT)

I think an average of 3.5 blue roles is quite town favoured. Even if you add mafia roles to compensate, the fact that they can be claimed and that blue roles tend not to be lynched as well as the strength of cops vs mafia setups without a framer or godfather, or how strong 2 1-shot vigi's would be, I think you should reconsider the setup.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 30 2016 23:17 GMT
#123
On March 31 2016 07:50 Shapelog wrote:
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On March 31 2016 07:14 geript wrote:
Trying to decide if I have time to play

Have to put you in as replacement due to it being full if you do.

I'd imagine it's an idea to fill the rest up with vets though. Worried the newbies might leave if we don't start soonish.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
April 01 2016 13:57 GMT
#129
Are we starting tonight if we fill up?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
April 01 2016 14:11 GMT
#131
On April 01 2016 23:00 Shapelog wrote:
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On April 01 2016 22:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Are we starting tonight if we fill up?

I was thinking a Monday start cuz fuck weekend starts but if enough people petition it, i can start it today.
I am flexible minus the dead line.

Sounds good to me. Did you pick a deadline time yet? You hven't updated the OP yet if so.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
April 04 2016 20:25 GMT
#157
Can I get BH as a coach?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
April 04 2016 23:23 GMT
#169
Hello friends! I'm Town and absolutely not Mafia. Let's hunt those evil doers down!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
April 05 2016 00:07 GMT
#175
Through objective analysis I've deduced that Tumblewood, Spikasaur and Race Bannon are our 3 scum players. You may ask me why in the morning.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
April 05 2016 06:53 GMT
#199
On April 05 2016 10:53 GlowingBear wrote:
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On April 05 2016 10:51 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 05 2016 10:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 05 2016 08:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hello friends! I'm Town and absolutely not Mafia. Let's hunt those evil doers down!


##Vote: Artanis

Ugh why the vote? I know he got his color mixed and all that but he probably was just looking for a reaction.


It's always fun to vote artanis.

+ that joke was awkward

You're an awkward joke.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
April 05 2016 06:53 GMT
#200
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
April 05 2016 15:24 GMT
#212
On April 05 2016 16:14 boxerfred wrote:
Hey guys. Im town. Artanis thread entry sparks up discussion but he couldve done this without the color mix. I like TWs reaction and i dont like Standard GB yolo vote. Also Damdreds entry is useless banter without any use to it which doesnt feel like usual town damdred stuff.

Uh, how would my opening without the colours have sparked up any discussion?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
April 05 2016 20:36 GMT
#225
On April 06 2016 01:29 Spikasaur wrote:
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On April 05 2016 22:56 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 05 2016 17:18 Spikasaur wrote:
Morning all

Morning any thoughts so far?


Eh...

You were quick to go on about getting your wish to be town, which could easily be a seed planted for you to refer back to later on.

Artanis was quick to throw some people under the bus based on ?? but then again I fully appreciate it gets a game rolling. I just wouldn't say it's massively townie type play though?

DoYouHas so far seems pretty townie? I could easily be wrong, it's early days. "If we can get the newbies active they won't be easy scapegoats for scum and we should have a more productive d1." - if is how he really feels, that's gotta be townie, no? However Gossemerr does make a good counter point I guess.

Not sure on others yet.

What exactly are you referring to when you say I'm throwing people under the bus?
On April 06 2016 03:45 CHodge wrote:
"...but it did spark discussion" is not an argument. I was hopeful people would actually discussing things by now.

We're discussing whether it sparked discussion or not.

Speaking of discussion, you seem to be throwing out a bunch of people you call good lynches but don't substantiate it with anything. Why don't you start?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
April 05 2016 22:01 GMT
#231
On April 06 2016 06:59 Spikasaur wrote:
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On April 06 2016 05:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 06 2016 01:29 Spikasaur wrote:
On April 05 2016 22:56 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 05 2016 17:18 Spikasaur wrote:
Morning all

Morning any thoughts so far?


Eh...

You were quick to go on about getting your wish to be town, which could easily be a seed planted for you to refer back to later on.

Artanis was quick to throw some people under the bus based on ?? but then again I fully appreciate it gets a game rolling. I just wouldn't say it's massively townie type play though?

DoYouHas so far seems pretty townie? I could easily be wrong, it's early days. "If we can get the newbies active they won't be easy scapegoats for scum and we should have a more productive d1." - if is how he really feels, that's gotta be townie, no? However Gossemerr does make a good counter point I guess.

Not sure on others yet.

What exactly are you referring to when you say I'm throwing people under the bus?
On April 06 2016 03:45 CHodge wrote:
"...but it did spark discussion" is not an argument. I was hopeful people would actually discussing things by now.

We're discussing whether it sparked discussion or not.

Speaking of discussion, you seem to be throwing out a bunch of people you call good lynches but don't substantiate it with anything. Why don't you start?


You were right in with a shot based on nothing yet. Also apparently real world phrasing means something different on mafia. Just meant 'you placed blame' or what have you. \/

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On April 05 2016 09:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Through objective analysis I've deduced that Tumblewood, Spikasaur and Race Bannon are our 3 scum players. You may ask me why in the morning.


Well, the reasoning is purely objective. I am the paragon of townieness and my nickname starts with the first letter of the alphabet. Conclusively, we must deduct that the scummiest players are on the opposite side of the alphabet. Therefore there is no doubt in my mind that these three are our scummers.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
April 06 2016 09:01 GMT
#260
On April 06 2016 14:20 CHodge wrote:
For Artanis[Xp] being someone who seems to be deferred to for some extent of players, he/she has basically spent time doing relatively nothing. Interesting that for someone who seems to be a mainstay in these parts would neither drive nor lead discussion. Not an awful lynch, however I'm not terribly interested in lynching protoss. I'd rather nuke them if the option came up.

Pretending not to know me is pretty boring.

There's basically no one I have a strong opinion on so far. I find your strong opinion on RB to be pretty baseless. The comments you compared him with I find less interesting than RB's reads.

Liking DYH. I don't agree with his strong scumread on TW, but I think he believes what he's saying.

TW looks a little townie to me as well. The confidence in this post mostly:
On April 06 2016 13:57 Tumblewood wrote:
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On April 06 2016 13:21 DoYouHas wrote:
I think TW is likely scum.

His "damn, caught me" comment to Artanis' list caught my eye. Mafia are more likely to play off pressure (even fake pressure) as a joke instead of flatly denying.

On April 05 2016 12:48 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 05 2016 12:25 GlowingBear wrote:
What's your opinion on his opening, Tumblewood?

I'm going to go case-read on this because I can't really judge which case it is yet.
Case 1: Artanis is town and is using that post to judge people's reactions.
Case 2: Artanis is town and is using that post to lighten up the thread and get things started.
Case 3: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear that he's trying to get reactions.
Case 4: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear carefree.
Of these, case 4 is the worst and case 1 is probably the best. I think that his opening is NAI [for newbies, that stands for "Not Alignment Indicative"] for now. Your vote is entirely throwaway or entirely overweighted. Really it's just D1 start and we're reading into nothing.

This post doesn't do anything. It's made to look like it does something but it argues itself into nothing. Step 1: let's analyze Art's play. Step 2: GB's vote was a waste and we are reading into nothing.

##Vote: Tumblewood

This also makes me suspicious of Art, but that is unflipped association for now.

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@Damdred, I'm usually riding the same mental groove as you by now. I'm hoping you just aren't trying yet, because I disagree with you on LS, who seems pretty townie to me.
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@The rest of you. Get talking. We can do better than the standard heavy activity right before deadline and a lame 47 other hours. If I end up being the activity police here we are in trouble.

1. That was a joke and also my first post. People respond like that all the time as both alignments. There is nothing alignment-indicative in that comment, so don't act like there is.
2. Funny, because you're similarly trying to make a read out of nothing. I knew there was no case there, the point was to prove that so we could stop trying to read it.
I understand that it's a quiet D1 and there's nothing to go off of, but you're grasping at straws really hard here.

Basically taunting DYH into tunneling him more. I feel Mafia is likely to be more careful.

Prob willing to lynch GB or Spikasaur currently. GB because I thought he was going with my opening of starting up the game by pretending to be suspicious of me, but then doing nothing with it. Spikasaur because of the wishywashiness that CHodge already pointed out.

Putting my vote on GB for now. As I said pregame I intend to spend less time on the game because I tend to get carried away. Will be back from one hour before deadline till deadline.
##Vote GlowingBear
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
April 06 2016 16:16 GMT
#286
Stop pretending to be marv, hf.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
April 06 2016 19:47 GMT
#299
On April 07 2016 04:30 Damdred wrote:
I actually think race has a good shot at bring town here, he seems pretty transparent even with a faulty process. But I understand it.

Ok so maybe gb could be a good lynch!

I have a pretty large pool atm I want to lynch into

And I still keep going back yo artanis basically doing nothing htm.

Almost the entire game including you has done basically nothing. Why are you singling me out? I don't get it especially since I indicated I wasn't going to put as much time in beforehand.

What do you think of gb?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
April 06 2016 19:48 GMT
#300
On April 07 2016 03:48 Tumblewood wrote:
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On April 07 2016 03:20 Race Bannon wrote:
I'm assuming mafia is a game where skill matters and you get better the more you play so if the majority is town and they converge and agree on someone being scummy the chance of being on to something is higher but even if notmit provides data for analysis.

See, if the wisdom of crowds effect only occurs when people form ideas independently. If you make a read influenced by someone else agreeing, then the positive effect of majority weakens.

Do you believe RB believed what he said?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
April 06 2016 19:51 GMT
#301
GB you said that you didn't believe my intent was to gather reactions. What do you believe my intent was and why did you think it was scummy?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
April 06 2016 19:55 GMT
#303
On April 07 2016 04:52 Damdred wrote:
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On April 07 2016 04:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 07 2016 04:30 Damdred wrote:
I actually think race has a good shot at bring town here, he seems pretty transparent even with a faulty process. But I understand it.

Ok so maybe gb could be a good lynch!

I have a pretty large pool atm I want to lynch into

And I still keep going back yo artanis basically doing nothing htm.

Almost the entire game including you has done basically nothing. Why are you singling me out? I don't get it especially since I indicated I wasn't going to put as much time in beforehand.

What do you think of gb?


Because my expectations even with smaller effort is high for you.

And to say I'm only singling you out is more than likely anexageration.

As for gb could maybe lynch.

If you think I can do much in half an hour in a 5 page thread in which most people are discussing whether my opening sparked discussion or not I'm not sure what to say. Also yes, on that specific point you are singling me out.
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