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Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 08 2016 21:10 GMT
#581
I mean that's just not true. Everyone moved onto me and nobody spoke against it. Damdred only moved off me at the last minute, without posting in the thread (has he even explained that yet??)
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
April 08 2016 21:12 GMT
#582
On April 09 2016 06:10 Fidei86 wrote:
I mean that's just not true. Everyone moved onto me and nobody spoke against it. Damdred only moved off me at the last minute, without posting in the thread (has he even explained that yet??)

Then it might be because I was refreshing the thread. I dunno, there's no real reason for me to lie about this either way since it's very easy to check.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
April 08 2016 21:13 GMT
#583
Thread=vote thread.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 08 2016 21:14 GMT
#584
On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2016 05:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Art, is pretty simple why you're scum.

You're scum because you had a clear scumread on me that you keep pushing without reconsidering it or without actually caring that much for other people (kinda like a tunnel)

But then, while your target IS getting lynched, you propose a shenannie. And it's not a case of not knowing who to lynched. I didn't found a single post where you consider I'm town ONCE. You just kept straight calling me mafia.

The part where you say neither me and race were here to defend ourselves is bullshit. Fidei wasn't either and it doesn't matter whether he wasn't becshse he was playing Dota or because he was busy saving a whale from Eskimos.

To those wondering what is the mafia morivation behind that: mislynching a townie and keep people discussing the lynch on another townie he was already easily pushing

I have reconsidered it. Then you came back and posted more excuses. I have gone over your filter twice already in the past.
There is a difference between going afk to play DotA 2 2 hours before deadline or having uni. One is much more of a conscious choice than the other.


is there something on day1 that made you think I'm town?

Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring.


Well, then I just confirm my theory that there wasn't a single thing that would make you be afraid of lynching me.

It's not a narrative, Art. You have a guy you think is Mafia but you decide to vote someone else and keep this scumread alive. It doesn't make sense.

In other words: what made you think that having shenannies was better than lynching me?
I'm adorable.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
April 08 2016 21:17 GMT
#585
On April 09 2016 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Art, is pretty simple why you're scum.

You're scum because you had a clear scumread on me that you keep pushing without reconsidering it or without actually caring that much for other people (kinda like a tunnel)

But then, while your target IS getting lynched, you propose a shenannie. And it's not a case of not knowing who to lynched. I didn't found a single post where you consider I'm town ONCE. You just kept straight calling me mafia.

The part where you say neither me and race were here to defend ourselves is bullshit. Fidei wasn't either and it doesn't matter whether he wasn't becshse he was playing Dota or because he was busy saving a whale from Eskimos.

To those wondering what is the mafia morivation behind that: mislynching a townie and keep people discussing the lynch on another townie he was already easily pushing

I have reconsidered it. Then you came back and posted more excuses. I have gone over your filter twice already in the past.
There is a difference between going afk to play DotA 2 2 hours before deadline or having uni. One is much more of a conscious choice than the other.


is there something on day1 that made you think I'm town?

Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring.


Well, then I just confirm my theory that there wasn't a single thing that would make you be afraid of lynching me.

It's not a narrative, Art. You have a guy you think is Mafia but you decide to vote someone else and keep this scumread alive. It doesn't make sense.

In other words: what made you think that having shenannies was better than lynching me?

Because shit was hectic and my mind was going everywhere with all the lynches going on. I wanted to hear more from both you and RB and neither of you were there nor had a chance to be there, whereas Fidei did and elected not to. That drove me to want to lynch him.
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
April 08 2016 21:32 GMT
#586
On April 09 2016 05:05 Gossemerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2016 23:27 Kuragari42 wrote:
On April 08 2016 21:30 Fidei86 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah okay, sign me up for the GB lynch wagon.

He posted this re his vote for BF:

"But way more important than that, he pushes Damdred but drop that push to go against tumblewood. I don't think that progression makes much sense."

BF never really had a strong Damdred read. He called out Damdred a few times, but that was it. At the same time, he started focussing more on TW. He then voted on TW, noting that he was still onto Damdred and would lynch either.

There is nothing inconsistent in that. At the same time, you had a bunch of people who were MUCH better targets (me, for starters!).

HOWEVER

I still think that town's best play is to lynch the AFK lurkers, Kuragari42 and Spikasaur. I abhor AFKers (recognise the irony, but I was unintentionally AFK). Basically, we're never going to figure out their alignment because they don't play. We're best off getting rid of them now (which might, at least, force them to reveal their true colours).

Also I hate the idea of losing to an AFK mafia player.


A mafia team of TW, GB +1 of the AFKers makes sense to
me. I think Goss' reactions to my last post were decent enough, and lynching Artanis when he's one of the only people actually playing is dumb. If Artanis is mafia, we basically fuckin' lost.


Sorry about the lurking, I've been pretty busy irl. I am however half way through a post-by-post analysis of the game.

This post struck me as something I should point out.

By vote analysis you can determine that Me/GB/TW are most likely not your scum team.


Kur what are your thoughts on anyone else in the game? Particularity on RB and TW


Home now. I'll get right to responding to this after I read the rest of the new posts.
SMITE
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
April 08 2016 22:04 GMT
#587
@Goss I would put Race in the town pile. His thoughts on LS make sense to me and I get a townie vibe from them. The people that are criticizing seem to be missing/ignoring his entire point.. also, I thought he handled himself very well through the whole bombardment from Art[xp].

As for Tumbledore... I read his filter and I'm not impressed.. possibly the most uninspiring filter aside from mine and he actually has a double digit post count.. While I didn't find anything that screams scum in his posts, I would not be surprised at all if he is a mafian.
SMITE
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 08 2016 22:13 GMT
#588
On April 09 2016 06:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2016 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Art, is pretty simple why you're scum.

You're scum because you had a clear scumread on me that you keep pushing without reconsidering it or without actually caring that much for other people (kinda like a tunnel)

But then, while your target IS getting lynched, you propose a shenannie. And it's not a case of not knowing who to lynched. I didn't found a single post where you consider I'm town ONCE. You just kept straight calling me mafia.

The part where you say neither me and race were here to defend ourselves is bullshit. Fidei wasn't either and it doesn't matter whether he wasn't becshse he was playing Dota or because he was busy saving a whale from Eskimos.

To those wondering what is the mafia morivation behind that: mislynching a townie and keep people discussing the lynch on another townie he was already easily pushing

I have reconsidered it. Then you came back and posted more excuses. I have gone over your filter twice already in the past.
There is a difference between going afk to play DotA 2 2 hours before deadline or having uni. One is much more of a conscious choice than the other.


is there something on day1 that made you think I'm town?

Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring.


Well, then I just confirm my theory that there wasn't a single thing that would make you be afraid of lynching me.

It's not a narrative, Art. You have a guy you think is Mafia but you decide to vote someone else and keep this scumread alive. It doesn't make sense.

In other words: what made you think that having shenannies was better than lynching me?

Because shit was hectic and my mind was going everywhere with all the lynches going on. I wanted to hear more from both you and RB and neither of you were there nor had a chance to be there, whereas Fidei did and elected not to. That drove me to want to lynch him.


Did you have any reason to scumread fidei?
I'm adorable.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 08 2016 22:47 GMT
#589
On April 09 2016 05:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2016 05:15 DoYouHas wrote:
Tumblewood

+ Show Spoiler [My original thoughts] +
On April 06 2016 13:21 DoYouHas wrote:
I think TW is likely scum.

His "damn, caught me" comment to Artanis' list caught my eye. Mafia are more likely to play off pressure (even fake pressure) as a joke instead of flatly denying.

Show nested quote +
On April 05 2016 12:48 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 05 2016 12:25 GlowingBear wrote:
What's your opinion on his opening, Tumblewood?

I'm going to go case-read on this because I can't really judge which case it is yet.
Case 1: Artanis is town and is using that post to judge people's reactions.
Case 2: Artanis is town and is using that post to lighten up the thread and get things started.
Case 3: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear that he's trying to get reactions.
Case 4: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear carefree.
Of these, case 4 is the worst and case 1 is probably the best. I think that his opening is NAI [for newbies, that stands for "Not Alignment Indicative"] for now. Your vote is entirely throwaway or entirely overweighted. Really it's just D1 start and we're reading into nothing.

This post doesn't do anything. It's made to look like it does something but it argues itself into nothing. Step 1: let's analyze Art's play. Step 2: GB's vote was a waste and we are reading into nothing.

##Vote: Tumblewood

This also makes me suspicious of Art, but that is unflipped association for now.


He pushes all 3 wagons from D1. 2/3 of which are solid town, 3/3 I think are town.
1.
On April 07 2016 07:08 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm unconvinced by the case on LS, and skeptical of the case on RB (could easily just be a newbie who's not used to this). Boxerfred is a sensible if shallow case... I'm not feeling great about it, but there's really nothing better going on right now.

2.
On April 07 2016 07:25 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 07 2016 07:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 07 2016 07:16 Tumblewood wrote:
I don't understand this case for GB... It's because he did something to stir discussion but didn't make a play on it? I'm just not seeing very much there.

Basically for me it's:
-Pretend to be playing along with my discussion starter
-Does fuck all after
-Comes back to the thread with reads, never did anything with said discussion starter
-Calls boxerfred scum citing that he usually plays as scum and doesn't as town when he hasn't really done much at all yet. Also he hasn't dropped the Damdred read at all unlike what GB said.

Basically he hasn't followed up on what he said he was doing and his read on BF seems made up.

Damn, looked back at that original BF read... I understand the read progression part, but "usually more useless as town" is not a reason for a read ever.
I feel a lot stronger about this than boxerfred. ##Vote GB

3.
On April 07 2016 07:52 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 07 2016 07:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Okay I'm back.
Who's up for shenannies?

I assume you mean Fidei? I'd be up for shenannies if I thought they would work, but Fidei is a dice roll at best.


Notice that even though he says he would be up for the shenanigans, he doesn't actually move his vote even though there was time, and it would have worked. This fits perfectly with the mafia tendency to split their votes when it is multiple town on the chopping block for EoD.

-
His list post doesn't add up:
On April 08 2016 02:40 Tumblewood wrote:
top scum reads Fidei, Goss
scum leans RB, GB
top town reads CHodge, Damdred
town lean on LS
null on art and DYH
no read on Kura and Spike because they've done nothing yet


First off, having Fidei as your top scumread when there is a huge reason to think he is town is dumb.
Secondly, Goss is bigger scumread than GB at this point based on 1 post? GB held TW's vote for d1 based on more than that.
Most importantly, "null on art". TW has defended Art twice, agreed with Art's case enough to vote for GB, and pushed Art's agenda with the shennanigans. For someone who clearly is siding with Art, a null read is just scum hedging.

That's a whole lotta associating going on around here. There's only a few points that aren't. Him not switching his vote when shenannies were going on (which also only matters if there's a scum in there, or scum can do anything so I'm not sure why you're using that as a point against him when you believe they're town). His defense on me whilst not townreading me is weird though but I didn't really think it was a defense, more of an explanation. Only point you really have going against TW is that he never switched to Fidei when that was his top scumread.

TW, why didn't you switch to Fidei when shenannies were happening?

I did not scumread Fidei until N1 (after he made the WoT)
good times for all
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
April 08 2016 23:03 GMT
#590
On April 09 2016 07:13 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2016 06:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Art, is pretty simple why you're scum.

You're scum because you had a clear scumread on me that you keep pushing without reconsidering it or without actually caring that much for other people (kinda like a tunnel)

But then, while your target IS getting lynched, you propose a shenannie. And it's not a case of not knowing who to lynched. I didn't found a single post where you consider I'm town ONCE. You just kept straight calling me mafia.

The part where you say neither me and race were here to defend ourselves is bullshit. Fidei wasn't either and it doesn't matter whether he wasn't becshse he was playing Dota or because he was busy saving a whale from Eskimos.

To those wondering what is the mafia morivation behind that: mislynching a townie and keep people discussing the lynch on another townie he was already easily pushing

I have reconsidered it. Then you came back and posted more excuses. I have gone over your filter twice already in the past.
There is a difference between going afk to play DotA 2 2 hours before deadline or having uni. One is much more of a conscious choice than the other.


is there something on day1 that made you think I'm town?

Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring.


Well, then I just confirm my theory that there wasn't a single thing that would make you be afraid of lynching me.

It's not a narrative, Art. You have a guy you think is Mafia but you decide to vote someone else and keep this scumread alive. It doesn't make sense.

In other words: what made you think that having shenannies was better than lynching me?

Because shit was hectic and my mind was going everywhere with all the lynches going on. I wanted to hear more from both you and RB and neither of you were there nor had a chance to be there, whereas Fidei did and elected not to. That drove me to want to lynch him.


Did you have any reason to scumread fidei?

[image loading]
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
April 08 2016 23:05 GMT
#591
I kinda want to see why DYH thinks Lex(Artanis) is scum but I don't think Lex is scum unless he going to pull a Imperial on me. Never Forget Imperial the biggest post count game in TL Mafia History.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
April 08 2016 23:07 GMT
#592
Also side note: Race could be town but his case would be shattered if he decided to check my past games XD
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
April 08 2016 23:07 GMT
#593
His case on me I mean.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 08 2016 23:28 GMT
#594
On April 09 2016 08:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2016 07:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 06:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Art, is pretty simple why you're scum.

You're scum because you had a clear scumread on me that you keep pushing without reconsidering it or without actually caring that much for other people (kinda like a tunnel)

But then, while your target IS getting lynched, you propose a shenannie. And it's not a case of not knowing who to lynched. I didn't found a single post where you consider I'm town ONCE. You just kept straight calling me mafia.

The part where you say neither me and race were here to defend ourselves is bullshit. Fidei wasn't either and it doesn't matter whether he wasn't becshse he was playing Dota or because he was busy saving a whale from Eskimos.

To those wondering what is the mafia morivation behind that: mislynching a townie and keep people discussing the lynch on another townie he was already easily pushing

I have reconsidered it. Then you came back and posted more excuses. I have gone over your filter twice already in the past.
There is a difference between going afk to play DotA 2 2 hours before deadline or having uni. One is much more of a conscious choice than the other.


is there something on day1 that made you think I'm town?

Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring.


Well, then I just confirm my theory that there wasn't a single thing that would make you be afraid of lynching me.

It's not a narrative, Art. You have a guy you think is Mafia but you decide to vote someone else and keep this scumread alive. It doesn't make sense.

In other words: what made you think that having shenannies was better than lynching me?

Because shit was hectic and my mind was going everywhere with all the lynches going on. I wanted to hear more from both you and RB and neither of you were there nor had a chance to be there, whereas Fidei did and elected not to. That drove me to want to lynch him.


Did you have any reason to scumread fidei?

[image loading]


You've said you wanted to lunch him but didn't give a single reason to why he is mafia. That's why I'm asking.
I'm adorable.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
April 08 2016 23:34 GMT
#595
On April 09 2016 08:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2016 08:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 07:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 06:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Art, is pretty simple why you're scum.

You're scum because you had a clear scumread on me that you keep pushing without reconsidering it or without actually caring that much for other people (kinda like a tunnel)

But then, while your target IS getting lynched, you propose a shenannie. And it's not a case of not knowing who to lynched. I didn't found a single post where you consider I'm town ONCE. You just kept straight calling me mafia.

The part where you say neither me and race were here to defend ourselves is bullshit. Fidei wasn't either and it doesn't matter whether he wasn't becshse he was playing Dota or because he was busy saving a whale from Eskimos.

To those wondering what is the mafia morivation behind that: mislynching a townie and keep people discussing the lynch on another townie he was already easily pushing

I have reconsidered it. Then you came back and posted more excuses. I have gone over your filter twice already in the past.
There is a difference between going afk to play DotA 2 2 hours before deadline or having uni. One is much more of a conscious choice than the other.


is there something on day1 that made you think I'm town?

Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring.


Well, then I just confirm my theory that there wasn't a single thing that would make you be afraid of lynching me.

It's not a narrative, Art. You have a guy you think is Mafia but you decide to vote someone else and keep this scumread alive. It doesn't make sense.

In other words: what made you think that having shenannies was better than lynching me?

Because shit was hectic and my mind was going everywhere with all the lynches going on. I wanted to hear more from both you and RB and neither of you were there nor had a chance to be there, whereas Fidei did and elected not to. That drove me to want to lynch him.


Did you have any reason to scumread fidei?

[image loading]


You've said you wanted to lunch him but didn't give a single reason to why he is mafia. That's why I'm asking.

James decided to play Dota instead of playing the game at EoD hence the gif of the guy disappearing.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Gossemerr
Profile Joined April 2011
United States195 Posts
April 08 2016 23:46 GMT
#596
On April 09 2016 08:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2016 08:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 08:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 07:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 06:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Art, is pretty simple why you're scum.

You're scum because you had a clear scumread on me that you keep pushing without reconsidering it or without actually caring that much for other people (kinda like a tunnel)

But then, while your target IS getting lynched, you propose a shenannie. And it's not a case of not knowing who to lynched. I didn't found a single post where you consider I'm town ONCE. You just kept straight calling me mafia.

The part where you say neither me and race were here to defend ourselves is bullshit. Fidei wasn't either and it doesn't matter whether he wasn't becshse he was playing Dota or because he was busy saving a whale from Eskimos.

To those wondering what is the mafia morivation behind that: mislynching a townie and keep people discussing the lynch on another townie he was already easily pushing

I have reconsidered it. Then you came back and posted more excuses. I have gone over your filter twice already in the past.
There is a difference between going afk to play DotA 2 2 hours before deadline or having uni. One is much more of a conscious choice than the other.


is there something on day1 that made you think I'm town?

Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring.


Well, then I just confirm my theory that there wasn't a single thing that would make you be afraid of lynching me.

It's not a narrative, Art. You have a guy you think is Mafia but you decide to vote someone else and keep this scumread alive. It doesn't make sense.

In other words: what made you think that having shenannies was better than lynching me?

Because shit was hectic and my mind was going everywhere with all the lynches going on. I wanted to hear more from both you and RB and neither of you were there nor had a chance to be there, whereas Fidei did and elected not to. That drove me to want to lynch him.


Did you have any reason to scumread fidei?

[image loading]


You've said you wanted to lunch him but didn't give a single reason to why he is mafia. That's why I'm asking.

James decided to play Dota instead of playing the game at EoD hence the gif of the guy disappearing.


What I still don't understand is why Artanis stayed with the Fidie vote even after he came back. And then didn't jump back on GB or switch to boxer. Too many other mafia on boxer maybe?

On April 07 2016 07:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Do we have the people to switch to Fidei? I really actually believe in him being far more likely to start playing dota 2h before deadline and not check in before as scum than as town.


Agreeing with others on the Art case; from my offline notes--
1. D1 pushes GB very hard. 2. drops it and causes ML in the chaos 3. N1 doesnt seem to care about the ML 4. D2 brings back his push on GB, which if GB flips town he can just refer back to his earlier thoughts and have an explanation.

I feel like we have strong cases on GB and Art collectively -- should consolidate and agree on one to lynch. I don't want to have a weird wagon like D1. Much more likely to lynch a scum with more than 4 votes on a single player-- less chance for wagon and flipping.

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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
April 08 2016 23:50 GMT
#597
On April 09 2016 08:46 Gossemerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2016 08:34 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 09 2016 08:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 08:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 07:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 06:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
[quote]
I have reconsidered it. Then you came back and posted more excuses. I have gone over your filter twice already in the past.
There is a difference between going afk to play DotA 2 2 hours before deadline or having uni. One is much more of a conscious choice than the other.


is there something on day1 that made you think I'm town?

Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring.


Well, then I just confirm my theory that there wasn't a single thing that would make you be afraid of lynching me.

It's not a narrative, Art. You have a guy you think is Mafia but you decide to vote someone else and keep this scumread alive. It doesn't make sense.

In other words: what made you think that having shenannies was better than lynching me?

Because shit was hectic and my mind was going everywhere with all the lynches going on. I wanted to hear more from both you and RB and neither of you were there nor had a chance to be there, whereas Fidei did and elected not to. That drove me to want to lynch him.


Did you have any reason to scumread fidei?

[image loading]


You've said you wanted to lunch him but didn't give a single reason to why he is mafia. That's why I'm asking.

James decided to play Dota instead of playing the game at EoD hence the gif of the guy disappearing.


What I still don't understand is why Artanis stayed with the Fidie vote even after he came back. And then didn't jump back on GB or switch to boxer. Too many other mafia on boxer maybe?

Show nested quote +
On April 07 2016 07:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Do we have the people to switch to Fidei? I really actually believe in him being far more likely to start playing dota 2h before deadline and not check in before as scum than as town.


Agreeing with others on the Art case; from my offline notes--
1. D1 pushes GB very hard. 2. drops it and causes ML in the chaos 3. N1 doesnt seem to care about the ML 4. D2 brings back his push on GB, which if GB flips town he can just refer back to his earlier thoughts and have an explanation.

I feel like we have strong cases on GB and Art collectively -- should consolidate and agree on one to lynch. I don't want to have a weird wagon like D1. Much more likely to lynch a scum with more than 4 votes on a single player-- less chance for wagon and flipping.


Idk either regarding the first part of the post but EoD was very weird though >.<
Second part of the post if GB flips town Lex would look a bit worse but if GB flips scum he earns a ton of towncred.
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Gossemerr
Profile Joined April 2011
United States195 Posts
April 09 2016 00:11 GMT
#598
On April 09 2016 08:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2016 08:46 Gossemerr wrote:
On April 09 2016 08:34 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 09 2016 08:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 08:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 07:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 06:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:23 GlowingBear wrote:
[quote]

is there something on day1 that made you think I'm town?

Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring.


Well, then I just confirm my theory that there wasn't a single thing that would make you be afraid of lynching me.

It's not a narrative, Art. You have a guy you think is Mafia but you decide to vote someone else and keep this scumread alive. It doesn't make sense.

In other words: what made you think that having shenannies was better than lynching me?

Because shit was hectic and my mind was going everywhere with all the lynches going on. I wanted to hear more from both you and RB and neither of you were there nor had a chance to be there, whereas Fidei did and elected not to. That drove me to want to lynch him.


Did you have any reason to scumread fidei?

[image loading]


You've said you wanted to lunch him but didn't give a single reason to why he is mafia. That's why I'm asking.

James decided to play Dota instead of playing the game at EoD hence the gif of the guy disappearing.


What I still don't understand is why Artanis stayed with the Fidie vote even after he came back. And then didn't jump back on GB or switch to boxer. Too many other mafia on boxer maybe?

On April 07 2016 07:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Do we have the people to switch to Fidei? I really actually believe in him being far more likely to start playing dota 2h before deadline and not check in before as scum than as town.


Agreeing with others on the Art case; from my offline notes--
1. D1 pushes GB very hard. 2. drops it and causes ML in the chaos 3. N1 doesnt seem to care about the ML 4. D2 brings back his push on GB, which if GB flips town he can just refer back to his earlier thoughts and have an explanation.

I feel like we have strong cases on GB and Art collectively -- should consolidate and agree on one to lynch. I don't want to have a weird wagon like D1. Much more likely to lynch a scum with more than 4 votes on a single player-- less chance for wagon and flipping.


Idk either regarding the first part of the post but EoD was very weird though >.<
Second part of the post if GB flips town Lex would look a bit worse but if GB flips scum he earns a ton of towncred.


Agreed. Whom would you be in favor or lynching then?
<3
Gossemerr
Profile Joined April 2011
United States195 Posts
April 09 2016 00:11 GMT
#599
EBWOP:
in favor of*
<3
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
April 09 2016 00:58 GMT
#600
On April 09 2016 09:11 Gossemerr wrote:
EBWOP:
in favor of*

I honestly don't know because I do believe that GB town and same with Lex but if I wrong anyone maybe GB because I am a huge sucker for him.
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