Newbie Student Mafia XX - Page 31

On April 09 2016 08:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Also side note: Race could be town but his case would be shattered if he decided to check my past games XD

On April 10 2016 01:55 Fidei86 wrote:
Guys. we are switching to Spika. He has enough posts to know he isn't lurking, but not enough to have contributed anything. Artanis might be mafia, but Spika is dead weight.

##Vote: Spikasaur

On April 10 2016 01:55 Fidei86 wrote:
Guys. we are switching to Spika. He has enough posts to know he isn't lurking, but not enough to have contributed anything. Artanis might be mafia, but Spika is dead weight.

##Vote: Spikasaur

On April 10 2016 00:57 GlowingBear wrote:
Game is way too quiet.
I'm voting Artanis, I'm certain he is Mafia

##Vote: Artanis

Do I need to write a comprehensive case or does everyone understand why he is Mafia?

On April 10 2016 02:28 DoYouHas wrote:
@Race, what are you playing at? If you want push LS then make a case and try and convince us. Stop trying to convince LS that he is mafia. I get that you are new, but I'm not going to be ok with you throwing away your vote on a fringe candidate again today. I think you are town. Be useful.

On April 09 2016 09:58 LightningStrike wrote:

I honestly don't know because I do believe that GB town and same with Lex but if I wrong anyone maybe GB because I am a huge sucker for him.

On April 06 2016 22:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up and I think CHodge is Town for a few reasons.
1. His approach to the game is quite different than a normal newbie regarding Vet players like myself and Artanis.
2. He been more thinking critically than me and everyone else up to this point.

On April 10 2016 02:48 Race Bannon wrote:
LS is scum.


Day 1 lead the lynch on a townie who predictably could't make the deadline (Germany). Day 2 no scumspect. CH would've been glad to lynch him so perhaps that's why he got offed.

In the post which I got my scumread from, there may be a vet crumb to render an eventual fake claim more persuasive.

notice the capitalization.

In case you haven't heard already I'm fairly certain that the timing of this post and it's content is indicative of scum parading CH as the most proficient townie in the field and thus making my lynch more attractive because CH was voting me.

On April 10 2016 01:55 Fidei86 wrote:
Guys. we are switching to Spika. He has enough posts to know he isn't lurking, but not enough to have contributed anything. Artanis might be mafia, but Spika is dead weight.

##Vote: Spikasaur

On April 09 2016 16:54 GlowingBear wrote:
IIIIII AM DRUUUUUUNK

On April 10 2016 03:39 Gossemerr wrote:
God damn i love your post Art. RB still won't answer me why he is tunneling LS so fucking hard without considering GB.

WTF is this RB? Capitalization means what exactly?


@ Fidei

I don't want to lynch a lurker over a probable mafia. We learn absoultely nothing from a lurker lynch that nobody has even been talking about / has any vested interest in. For being "town firmed" as you and others think you are not being pro-town in my mind with this. It just causes more confusion for a town that is trying to get unified behind an either Art or GB lynch today.

Finally, lol:


I like the cases and my own read @ GB = mafia.

##Vote GlowingBear

On April 10 2016 02:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Okay guys, you know who we're not lynching today? Me. I'm going to make a long-ass post right the fuck now and you're all going to read it and realize how bad you were for ever even considering me as scum, after which I will slam dunk scumbear some more. If for whatever reason you don't want to lynch him we can also lynch scum bannon. To keep your interest in this post and read it all the way through, I have uploaded several entertaining images depicting emotions I expect these two fellows to have as they go through this post.

This post will contain narrative and self-meta. Deal with it.

You're mafia because you wanted people to shenanny to Fidei when you were scumreading both GB and RB!
First off, I have never* shenannied as mafia, whereas I have shenannied many times as town. I keep things simple as mafia, going for the safe plays over the fancy plays. I like to have control, not cause even more chaos like what happened. No one could've predicted what would happen at EoD and if any of the lead wagons were scum and Fidei is town, I could end up looking really bad and/or scum ends up getting lynched instead.


But GB brought up this point about how you could push him the day after if you're scum!
That is technically correct. However, it is also narrative. Another explanation is that I simply thought Fidei was the most likely to flip mafia given the fact that Fidei generally tryhards, finds out he's playing a game 2 hours before deadline and doesn't put in any effort to do anything and just starts playing dota. I found that very unlikely to come from town. Since then I have changed my opinion on him given what he's posted during the night.

Regardless, there is clear town motivation for my actions. I tried getting the person I felt was most likely to flip scum lynched. I no longer think he's the most likely person to flip scum, so I'm persuing GRB.



But why did you instantly go after GB and RB again? Clearly you're confident enough that they're scum, so why?
GB's return to the thread has been less than impressive. He's tunneling me much like he usually tunnels HF. None of his posts have followup. He said he played along with me in the start, but never followed up on it. He commented on a bunch of things people have been posting, but none of those had followups either. Calls me scum but doesn't actually substantiate it until I call him out on it and doesn't push the issue until he sees that it's gaining some momentum.

So how certain are you that GB is going to flip scum?
Roughly.. 80%? Probably around 60% for RB.

Okay, so say the EoD shenannies don't make you scum. You still did nothing on the first part of D1 leading up to deadline.
I have said in the pregame that I intend to spend less time on this game than before. I still pinged plenty of people and as many have put it, sparked discussion. Reads on DYH, Tumblewood, GB and Spikasaur that weren't posted as prolifically yet as I had as well as poking Damdred and RB. I say that given the amount of time I've put in the game I've done my fair share.

Regardless you misremembered things about EoD!
Shit was hectic and I have bad memory. I don't believe having poor memory is alignment indicative, especially when it's about things that can easily be checked. No reason to lie as either alignment.

So there's basically no good reason to scumread you whatsoever?
Yup, that's kinda what it comes down to. Y'all are jubjubs.



Can you tell us why GB and RB are scum again now?
GlowingBear, I've already mentioned a lot of reasons why he's scum. No followup on anything he's done, and lack of caring in general. He created a narrative in which the actions at EoD make sense for him as town and me as scum, when actually the scenario that would make the most sense is for me to be town as I led a lynch off of him onto someone else whom could be scum. The only townie with the information that that isn't true is Fidei himself, and the fact that GB created this narrative before considering any others suggests an agenda.

Race Bannon has contradicted himself time and time again. Firstly what Gossemerr pointed out about him believing that it was a mafia trait to hard townread CHodge only to do it himself, and his push on LS feels feigned. He doesn't dare to commit on GB because he doesn't want to scumread his scumbuddy. There are no good arguments not to vote on GB especially for him as he was on the table himself and he KNOWS he's town. The fact that he seems so disengaged on all the people that were up for lynch yesterday is concerning.

So who are we lynching?
Glowingbear today. Race Bannon tomorrow. Could be convinced of the other order as well.



*Exception being Imperial where I shenannied onto Palmar, but if I hadn't scum Marv would've likely gotten lynched. No such risk this game as proven by BF's flip.

On April 10 2016 02:15 Race Bannon wrote:
At some point real arguments outweigh meta ones. Unless someone can vouch for your scumgame being free of mischievous and clandestine manipulation I don't see how my argument would be shattered; are you saying you're utterly incapable of it? What's more you said you were switching to a content-oriented town meta, content the existence of which there is none to be found ... in actuality you may be playing against your scum meta. Furthermore established players find it hard to read you. Therefore I conclude that it's safe to disregard meta in your case.

Nevertheless my argument stems from the premise of me being town so I have to die first for others to acknowledge it.

I can get behind that, but I still think LS should be are lynch.