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Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
April 08 2016 14:30 GMT
#541
I can see LS as manipulative scum, encouraging CH because he's on the wrong path. If you don't that's fine but stop trying to steer me away and on to GB unless you can muster something better than what you have already.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
April 08 2016 14:50 GMT
#542
On April 08 2016 23:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2016 23:14 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 08 2016 22:08 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 08 2016 19:12 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 08 2016 05:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 07 2016 09:25 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 07 2016 08:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
With the people that ended up on the boxerfred lynch I'm not very surprised he flipped town.
Race Bannon, please answer this post when you get back:
On April 07 2016 07:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 07 2016 07:25 Gossemerr wrote:
I think the case on Boxer is pretty weak. Art's case on GB is stronger, but I don't feel like its strong enough to switch from my own read currently.

Also, CHodge why the flip?

I actually kinda like your case too reading it over again. Don't think the first two points hold much water (early fluff is normal at the start of a game and townreading someone despite them voting you is normal as well) but him pointing out that scum are more likely to point out the towniness of CHodge, then in the very next post underlining that townread is kinda iffy.

RB, can you explain why that sequence happened?
.

Determinism? What's your point?

Point is:
-You believe that mafia is more likely than town to underpin his towniness, calling out the guy you quoted as being scummy (presumably)
-You proceed to do the exact same thing
Basically, you called yourself scummy. Explain.

Gosse looks pretty good with that post. Would town. Reasoning for switching mentioned above.

Still want to lynch GB and RB.

I've changed my mind.
I believe LS was encouraging people to sheep him not because he thoughtt CH was town and worthy of being paraded as such with bulletpoints, but because he knew he was town voting a townie and encouraging him and others to mislynch me. Can you dig it, paragon? I never said sheeping was scummy or that in general scum tend to point out townieness, somehow getting caught in my own web in the process, that's just dumb.

On April 08 2016 12:45 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 08 2016 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:
@LS
Why is it important to you to be read as town for your content instead of for your emotions?

Because I broke that meta in Cell Who Wants To Be a Millionaire.

Not a fan of your content thus far either.

##Vote: LS

I thought CHodge was town but I didn't tell people to sheep me on that read -_- I guess you need to reread my filter on that part.


Let's look at it again then

On April 06 2016 22:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up and I think CHodge is Town for a few reasons.
1. His approach to the game is quite different than a normal newbie regarding Vet players like myself and Artanis.
2. He been more thinking critically than me and everyone else up to this point.


Not in those words but this is a clear declaration of readyness to outsource scumhunting because he was oh so critical in his thinking, so much better than everyone else.

You didn't say sheep him or die, but you would've if you weren't so afraid to get your hands dirty and vote for ke yourself.

It's normal for LS to default to other people's reads. He's lemming'd before when he has strong townreads. It does not make him mafia.

Address my GB read please.

I didn't come up my townread on him because of other people I felt he was townie and called him town so when I saw him flip I wasn't suprised that he was town. Also RB the bolded CHodge was one of the few people who was doing any real work at the time I made that read.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 08 2016 15:05 GMT
#543
On April 08 2016 23:30 Race Bannon wrote:
I can see LS as manipulative scum, encouraging CH because he's on the wrong path. If you don't that's fine but stop trying to steer me away and on to GB unless you can muster something better than what you have already.


??? Can you explain what you mean by this, because I keep reading it and I'm no closer to understanding your point.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 08 2016 15:06 GMT
#544
Welp ignore me, I thought you were going back to LS, but you were actually going back to Art.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 08 2016 15:48 GMT
#545
Hi, I'm not feeling well today so I'll play more later.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
April 08 2016 16:18 GMT
#546
Get better Ian
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 08 2016 16:35 GMT
#547
Rip
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
April 08 2016 16:45 GMT
#548
On April 09 2016 01:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Get better Ian

^
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Gossemerr
Profile Joined April 2011
United States195 Posts
April 08 2016 17:29 GMT
#549
I'm gonna throw my 2c into the @ GB case. These posts are kinda funny:

On April 06 2016 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
Yesterday I was auditioning all day long. Here I am today

On April 07 2016 04:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Whoopsie I was here but I forgot to do stuff

On April 07 2016 05:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Deadline is today, right?
I am kinda busy, was going to put some effiort at midnight. Oh, well.

On April 07 2016 05:23 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2016 05:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 07 2016 05:12 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 07 2016 04:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
GB you said that you didn't believe my intent was to gather reactions. What do you believe my intent was and why did you think it was scummy?

Art, I was just trying to develop discussion, I don't actually believe your opening have anything to read into. I do that kind of thing everytime as both alignment

I can actually buy that. I think you would as either alignment. I just think you would actually have some form of followup as town.

I would if I played yesterday. But I didn't.

On April 07 2016 05:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Still, I need to read the 5 pages as a whole

On April 07 2016 06:35 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm heading to my classes, I won't be here on deadline I believe, so I'm placing my vote on boxerfred.

I'll try to come back to see how the vote thread is going.

I'm town. I'll put effort tonight, I promise.

On April 08 2016 13:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I've read almost everything, kinda got bored at the last 3 pages.

Artanis how does it feel to be mafia?



So many posts about nothing - overly apologetic. If GB had town interest at heart GB would actually follow up. The last
comment about being bored is completely useless. No real reads on anyone? Besides a few small one liners on me and some others. But GB pretty much ignores my longer analysis post.

On April 08 2016 12:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2016 13:25 Gossemerr wrote:
Tumbleweed was literally responding to GlowingBear's question of Art's opening. I think you are tunneling pretty hard.


Really weird soft defense.


On April 08 2016 13:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2016 01:20 Gossemerr wrote:
I'm getting a scummy vibe from Race Bannon. My reasoning:

1. Early posts are fluff, no real added value.

2. This post: He says CHodge is voting a townie (Himself), but CHodge made a clear post about why he was voting him - which is a town characteristic. Doesn't really offer a counter argument - instead responds by dodging the question. He then votes LS seemingly out of nowhere - I guess because his townie read on CHodge.
On April 06 2016 22:42 Race Bannon wrote:
On April 06 2016 22:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 06 2016 22:25 Race Bannon wrote:
Bulletpointing how town CHodge is if he is town is what I expect scum to do at this point.


If he was scum I would think he would been more nervous about his posts knowing he is one of the newbies they feel natural so far for me.


I meant the townvibe coming off of CHodge is obvious but he happens to be voting a townie, so I expect scum to encourage people to sheep him.

##LightingStrike


3. Then he does try to explain, which lacks confidence IMO. And on top of that he goes against his own advice of sheeping as a mafia trait and explains his LS vote as a good lynch based on others and not his own opinions.
On April 07 2016 00:04 Race Bannon wrote:
It could be anyone. Probably a lurker but I think others expressed issues with LS as well so it's a good lynch.


So I think RB is a possible mafia which is best read I have thus far.
##Vote: Race Bannon


I dislike this. Goss hardly react to stuff, and the only thing he does is to write a case after a townie is already pushing the guy


I would be ok with a GB lynch at this point. Would still like to see more thought content and process from LS who was another of my scum reads.
@GB Anyways mentioned in my analysis earlier I'd like to hear about your thoughts and if you have any strong reads.

Also @ Fidei, you were reading me top scum before, what are your thoughts now?
<3
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 08 2016 17:33 GMT
#550
Goss, GB is one of your scumreads, right? So why are you "ok" with him getting lynched and not pushing him?
good times for all
Gossemerr
Profile Joined April 2011
United States195 Posts
April 08 2016 17:36 GMT
#551
OK in the sense that I am for it. That post is a push for GB.
<3
Gossemerr
Profile Joined April 2011
United States195 Posts
April 08 2016 17:38 GMT
#552
TW any thoughts on GB? Or anymore on Fidei as he is your other top scum?
<3
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
April 08 2016 17:44 GMT
#553
On April 09 2016 02:33 Tumblewood wrote:
Goss, GB is one of your scumreads, right? So why are you "ok" with him getting lynched and not pushing him?

Nitpicking semantics are we?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 08 2016 17:50 GMT
#554
@Goss I'll re-read your filter this evening. Off the top of my head, I'm not sure I like you piling on to GB. It's exactly what I did as Mafia - piling on to a mislynch with rehashed reasons. But that's without really considering your case fully.

Also off the top of my head, I'm thinking we should lynch one of the two newbie lurkers for now.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 08 2016 17:51 GMT
#555
Just realised that my reason for going after GB was stolen from Artanis. But it's okay when I do it because I'm town.

...

Consistency!
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 08 2016 17:58 GMT
#556
Also I just realised that your new GB case is actually not re-hashed at all. Hmmmmmmmmm.
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
April 08 2016 18:30 GMT
#557
On April 09 2016 02:50 Fidei86 wrote:
@Goss I'll re-read your filter this evening. Off the top of my head, I'm not sure I like you piling on to GB. It's exactly what I did as Mafia - piling on to a mislynch with rehashed reasons. But that's without really considering your case fully.

Also off the top of my head, I'm thinking we should lynch one of the two newbie lurkers for now.


That may actually be Goss's best post! Most of his thoughts don't make sense to me but this I can get behind. I was leaning on GB being scum before but never really noted these excuses until they are all put together. And since I don't remember anyone else bringing this point up, it is more original thought than a rehash.

PS: No lyncherino please.
SMITE
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 08 2016 18:33 GMT
#558
Okay, now *that* is a rehash.
Gossemerr
Profile Joined April 2011
United States195 Posts
April 08 2016 18:48 GMT
#559
@ Race Bannon can you talk more about your thoughts on GB? You are hard scum reading LS due to lack of content, which I agree with in my analysis as well. But GB is basically doing the same thing.

Also some input from Spika would help. We should consolidate our thoughts on GB and move forward as a unified town.
<3
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
April 08 2016 18:52 GMT
#560
On April 09 2016 03:33 Fidei86 wrote:
Okay, now *that* is a rehash.


Yeah, sorry. Read your post 5 seconds later..

What are you thinking on GB now? I believe you were town reading him and that is some of what is influencing my opinion on you.
SMITE
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