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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 06 2016 05:02 GMT
#241
On April 06 2016 13:56 CHodge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2016 09:19 Kuragari42 wrote:
I read in a shaky voice?? You think I'm some weak coward or something?!?

"Kuragari42 looked at the note and begin reading it off in a voice full of confidence."

There.

This is basically a summary for why anyone could think Kuragawi42 is town... 4 posts with nothing interesting of note.

Especially on a quiet day like this, I don't think a lack of interesting stuff in a person's first four posts is scummy. I'm leaning toward reading any activity as townie right now. It's almost like a quiet LyLo/MyLo when scum wants to make sure no one talks and potentially changes the lynch. Of course, though, it would be silly to lynch someone right now for being quiet, because so is everyone. (Really, there are no lynches I can feel decent about because no one's coming out of their shell.)
good times for all
CHodge
Profile Joined March 2016
32 Posts
April 06 2016 05:04 GMT
#242
Gossemerr has an interesting, albeit tiny, 3 posts. Clearly, he/she has a bit of spunk for the response towards DoYouHas.
On April 05 2016 09:30 Gossemerr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2016 09:12 DoYouHas wrote:
Personally, I would like to hear from the newbies. What is their experience with mafia, why they are town, just generally being active. If we can get the newbies active they won't be easy scapegoats for scum and we should have a more productive d1.


Are you implying we would be easy scapegoats based solely on #/length of posts? Maybe you want newbies to post a lot to clutter up the thread and muddle pro-town progress

So far of the rather bland newbies and actually despite the slightly shorter filter, I'm less inclined to lynch Gossemerr. I like the attitude. His response toward DoYouHas gives a glimmer of illusion that he is reading and thinking. He shall be tossed in the townpile for now.
CHodge
Profile Joined March 2016
32 Posts
April 06 2016 05:04 GMT
#243
Fidei86--MIA
CHodge
Profile Joined March 2016
32 Posts
April 06 2016 05:10 GMT
#244
On April 05 2016 08:54 DoYouHas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2016 08:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Yay I rolled town which I really wanted so I can change my play style. Let's find scum!

Change your playstyle from what to what?

Interesting question without much actual throughput.
DoYouHas's goal to involve the nubians in the game is honorable if boring.
Overall his points on Tumblewood are uninspiring, however, the unflipped association read to Artanis is a bit much. However, that paranoia is more in line with actual paranoia than keeping up general appearances. Perhaps town for his paranoia.
CHodge
Profile Joined March 2016
32 Posts
April 06 2016 05:12 GMT
#245
On April 06 2016 14:02 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2016 13:56 CHodge wrote:
On April 05 2016 09:19 Kuragari42 wrote:
I read in a shaky voice?? You think I'm some weak coward or something?!?

"Kuragari42 looked at the note and begin reading it off in a voice full of confidence."

There.

This is basically a summary for why anyone could think Kuragawi42 is town... 4 posts with nothing interesting of note.

Especially on a quiet day like this, I don't think a lack of interesting stuff in a person's first four posts is scummy. I'm leaning toward reading any activity as townie right now. It's almost like a quiet LyLo/MyLo when scum wants to make sure no one talks and potentially changes the lynch. Of course, though, it would be silly to lynch someone right now for being quiet, because so is everyone. (Really, there are no lynches I can feel decent about because no one's coming out of their shell.)

Activity is non-alignment indicative in general. In this specific case with low activity and low votes, I'd lean far more toward scum being in the more active side of town.
CHodge
Profile Joined March 2016
32 Posts
April 06 2016 05:16 GMT
#246
On April 05 2016 08:59 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2016 08:54 DoYouHas wrote:
On April 05 2016 08:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Yay I rolled town which I really wanted so I can change my play style. Let's find scum!

Change your playstyle from what to what?

From being a person who was town read for emotions to actually be town read for content. Ask Lexus for why

It's interesting to me that LightningStrike trying for this goal while actually producing quite little content. He/She has many posts finding an excuse to not call someone scum and even goes so far to post:
On April 05 2016 22:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2016 17:18 Spikasaur wrote:
Morning all

Morning any thoughts so far?

Besides not making him/herself an easy townread based on emotions, he/she hasn't actually made any attempt to push content or force through content. I'd surmise that he/she is rather passive as scum. Not a bad lynch.
CHodge
Profile Joined March 2016
32 Posts
April 06 2016 05:20 GMT
#247
For Artanis[Xp] being someone who seems to be deferred to for some extent of players, he/she has basically spent time doing relatively nothing. Interesting that for someone who seems to be a mainstay in these parts would neither drive nor lead discussion. Not an awful lynch, however I'm not terribly interested in lynching protoss. I'd rather nuke them if the option came up.
CHodge
Profile Joined March 2016
32 Posts
April 06 2016 05:22 GMT
#248
On April 06 2016 05:24 Damdred wrote:
He's so calm and agreeable

If for nothing else, I have no interest in lynching Damdred for this post alone. Despite his/her short filter with mostly mediocre posts, coming to the same synthesis as myself on LightningStrike makes me feel some minor kinship. I'll toss him/her on the townpile for now.
CHodge
Profile Joined March 2016
32 Posts
April 06 2016 05:25 GMT
#249
boxerfred is uninspiring at best with 2 posts one of which is a boring and short summary post. The only interesting thing about his/her filter is that it makes me want to lynch Race Bannon even more for calling boxerfred town.
CHodge
Profile Joined March 2016
32 Posts
April 06 2016 05:29 GMT
#250
On April 05 2016 12:48 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2016 12:25 GlowingBear wrote:
What's your opinion on his opening, Tumblewood?

I'm going to go case-read on this because I can't really judge which case it is yet.
Case 1: Artanis is town and is using that post to judge people's reactions.
Case 2: Artanis is town and is using that post to lighten up the thread and get things started.
Case 3: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear that he's trying to get reactions.
Case 4: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear carefree.
Of these, case 4 is the worst and case 1 is probably the best. I think that his opening is NAI [for newbies, that stands for "Not Alignment Indicative"] for now. Your vote is entirely throwaway or entirely overweighted. Really it's just D1 start and we're reading into nothing.

While I'm relatively unimpressed with Tumblewood in general, I'm not terribly excited to lynch him/her right now. His/her filter is poor at best; however, there's a mechanic thought process to this post in that he/she has to put it into a post in order to work through it. There's something I can understand about that which I am able to sympathize with. I think that Tumblewood may be town though I'm currently of the mind to hedge a bit.
CHodge
Profile Joined March 2016
32 Posts
April 06 2016 05:33 GMT
#251
GlowingBear has 10 posts. A boring opening. A joke vote. A short explanation of said joke vote. A townread I don't agree with based on poor-at-best speculation. A bland innuendo. A short rebuttal over nothing. A dumb question. A dumber question. Finally, a gif. Would lynch, especially as all his/her activity has been at the start of the day.
CHodge
Profile Joined March 2016
32 Posts
April 06 2016 05:36 GMT
#252
I for right now will guess with voting Race Bannon, however, I'm not terribly against lynching most players to my terrible displeasure.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 06 2016 05:42 GMT
#253
CHodge gets 100% of the daily ration of town points for providing the only real reads of the game.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 06 2016 05:44 GMT
#254
@Race Bannon: Do you still stand by your TRs on GB and boxer? If so, why do you think a confident opening is townie?
good times for all
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 06 2016 07:56 GMT
#255
On April 06 2016 05:24 Damdred wrote:
He's so calm and agreeable

And with that comment you try to provocate him. Given your (in my eyes) weak thread entry, and now this post, what's your intention behind the quoted post?

On April 06 2016 06:29 Damdred wrote:
Shhh ls just roll over like the scum you are and we can wake up later as friends.

Now actual reading things

We're like 3 pages in or so Oo. Are you serious?

On April 06 2016 13:21 DoYouHas wrote:
I think TW is likely scum.

His "damn, caught me" comment to Artanis' list caught my eye. Mafia are more likely to play off pressure (even fake pressure) as a joke instead of flatly denying.

Show nested quote +
On April 05 2016 12:48 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 05 2016 12:25 GlowingBear wrote:
What's your opinion on his opening, Tumblewood?

I'm going to go case-read on this because I can't really judge which case it is yet.
Case 1: Artanis is town and is using that post to judge people's reactions.
Case 2: Artanis is town and is using that post to lighten up the thread and get things started.
Case 3: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear that he's trying to get reactions.
Case 4: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear carefree.
Of these, case 4 is the worst and case 1 is probably the best. I think that his opening is NAI [for newbies, that stands for "Not Alignment Indicative"] for now. Your vote is entirely throwaway or entirely overweighted. Really it's just D1 start and we're reading into nothing.

This post doesn't do anything. It's made to look like it does something but it argues itself into nothing. Step 1: let's analyze Art's play. Step 2: GB's vote was a waste and we are reading into nothing.

##Vote: Tumblewood

This also makes me suspicious of Art, but that is unflipped association for now.

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@Damdred, I'm usually riding the same mental groove as you by now. I'm hoping you just aren't trying yet, because I disagree with you on LS, who seems pretty townie to me.
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@The rest of you. Get talking. We can do better than the standard heavy activity right before deadline and a lame 47 other hours. If I end up being the activity police here we are in trouble.

Actually DYH has a good point there. If I roll scum I tend to overexpain myself, too. Hm not sure, initially I liked the casing but yeah.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 06 2016 08:00 GMT
#256
On April 06 2016 13:57 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2016 13:21 DoYouHas wrote:
I think TW is likely scum.

His "damn, caught me" comment to Artanis' list caught my eye. Mafia are more likely to play off pressure (even fake pressure) as a joke instead of flatly denying.

On April 05 2016 12:48 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 05 2016 12:25 GlowingBear wrote:
What's your opinion on his opening, Tumblewood?

I'm going to go case-read on this because I can't really judge which case it is yet.
Case 1: Artanis is town and is using that post to judge people's reactions.
Case 2: Artanis is town and is using that post to lighten up the thread and get things started.
Case 3: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear that he's trying to get reactions.
Case 4: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear carefree.
Of these, case 4 is the worst and case 1 is probably the best. I think that his opening is NAI [for newbies, that stands for "Not Alignment Indicative"] for now. Your vote is entirely throwaway or entirely overweighted. Really it's just D1 start and we're reading into nothing.

This post doesn't do anything. It's made to look like it does something but it argues itself into nothing. Step 1: let's analyze Art's play. Step 2: GB's vote was a waste and we are reading into nothing.

##Vote: Tumblewood

This also makes me suspicious of Art, but that is unflipped association for now.

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@Damdred, I'm usually riding the same mental groove as you by now. I'm hoping you just aren't trying yet, because I disagree with you on LS, who seems pretty townie to me.
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@The rest of you. Get talking. We can do better than the standard heavy activity right before deadline and a lame 47 other hours. If I end up being the activity police here we are in trouble.

1. That was a joke and also my first post. People respond like that all the time as both alignments. There is nothing alignment-indicative in that comment, so don't act like there is.
2. Funny, because you're similarly trying to make a read out of nothing. I knew there was no case there, the point was to prove that so we could stop trying to read it.
I understand that it's a quiet D1 and there's nothing to go off of, but you're grasping at straws really hard here.


Not sure if I like that "I'm slightly pissed and you're bad" sort of defence.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 06 2016 08:01 GMT
#257
On April 06 2016 14:02 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2016 13:56 CHodge wrote:
On April 05 2016 09:19 Kuragari42 wrote:
I read in a shaky voice?? You think I'm some weak coward or something?!?

"Kuragari42 looked at the note and begin reading it off in a voice full of confidence."

There.

This is basically a summary for why anyone could think Kuragawi42 is town... 4 posts with nothing interesting of note.

Especially on a quiet day like this, I don't think a lack of interesting stuff in a person's first four posts is scummy. I'm leaning toward reading any activity as townie right now. It's almost like a quiet LyLo/MyLo when scum wants to make sure no one talks and potentially changes the lynch. Of course, though, it would be silly to lynch someone right now for being quiet, because so is everyone. (Really, there are no lynches I can feel decent about because no one's coming out of their shell.)

you're so wishywashy :/
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 06 2016 08:05 GMT
#258
Would lynch Damdred or Tumblewood thus far. Damdred basically for not being as good as town Damdred is normally, Tumblewood because he's switching between rational arguments, "you're bad/wrong" and this uncommiting wishywashyness.

##vote Tumblewood

Or, any lurker.
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
April 06 2016 08:58 GMT
#259
On April 06 2016 14:44 Tumblewood wrote:
@Race Bannon: Do you still stand by your TRs on GB and boxer? If so, why do you think a confident opening is townie?


I do and I didn't mean just the first post. Boxer in his follow up and response to questioning blatantly calls the play useless, hence doesn't shy away from anymosity nor does he overelaborate in light of the scarce evidence at that early stage, the way I imagine self-conscious scum would compensate for insecurity.
GlowingBear reminds me of Koshi with whom I have a dayphase of history, and he was town.
Spicy exhibits the same sort of reticence he did in the last game as town while Damdred doesn't strike me any different, so that's a town and scumread respectively.

By the way we should prepare and organize suspicions and arguments into persistent snowball cases the way some sites handle sign-ups; by copy-pasting the acumulated data and adding their input on top, for easier reviewing later. If we do this a mislynch following the chaos of a fake claim like the one I was subjected to last game seems less likely to happen in my second game here as well. The last minute hysteria which seems a recurring phenomenon is silly and bad for town.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 06 2016 09:01 GMT
#260
On April 06 2016 14:20 CHodge wrote:
For Artanis[Xp] being someone who seems to be deferred to for some extent of players, he/she has basically spent time doing relatively nothing. Interesting that for someone who seems to be a mainstay in these parts would neither drive nor lead discussion. Not an awful lynch, however I'm not terribly interested in lynching protoss. I'd rather nuke them if the option came up.

Pretending not to know me is pretty boring.

There's basically no one I have a strong opinion on so far. I find your strong opinion on RB to be pretty baseless. The comments you compared him with I find less interesting than RB's reads.

Liking DYH. I don't agree with his strong scumread on TW, but I think he believes what he's saying.

TW looks a little townie to me as well. The confidence in this post mostly:
On April 06 2016 13:57 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2016 13:21 DoYouHas wrote:
I think TW is likely scum.

His "damn, caught me" comment to Artanis' list caught my eye. Mafia are more likely to play off pressure (even fake pressure) as a joke instead of flatly denying.

On April 05 2016 12:48 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 05 2016 12:25 GlowingBear wrote:
What's your opinion on his opening, Tumblewood?

I'm going to go case-read on this because I can't really judge which case it is yet.
Case 1: Artanis is town and is using that post to judge people's reactions.
Case 2: Artanis is town and is using that post to lighten up the thread and get things started.
Case 3: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear that he's trying to get reactions.
Case 4: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear carefree.
Of these, case 4 is the worst and case 1 is probably the best. I think that his opening is NAI [for newbies, that stands for "Not Alignment Indicative"] for now. Your vote is entirely throwaway or entirely overweighted. Really it's just D1 start and we're reading into nothing.

This post doesn't do anything. It's made to look like it does something but it argues itself into nothing. Step 1: let's analyze Art's play. Step 2: GB's vote was a waste and we are reading into nothing.

##Vote: Tumblewood

This also makes me suspicious of Art, but that is unflipped association for now.

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@Damdred, I'm usually riding the same mental groove as you by now. I'm hoping you just aren't trying yet, because I disagree with you on LS, who seems pretty townie to me.
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@The rest of you. Get talking. We can do better than the standard heavy activity right before deadline and a lame 47 other hours. If I end up being the activity police here we are in trouble.

1. That was a joke and also my first post. People respond like that all the time as both alignments. There is nothing alignment-indicative in that comment, so don't act like there is.
2. Funny, because you're similarly trying to make a read out of nothing. I knew there was no case there, the point was to prove that so we could stop trying to read it.
I understand that it's a quiet D1 and there's nothing to go off of, but you're grasping at straws really hard here.

Basically taunting DYH into tunneling him more. I feel Mafia is likely to be more careful.

Prob willing to lynch GB or Spikasaur currently. GB because I thought he was going with my opening of starting up the game by pretending to be suspicious of me, but then doing nothing with it. Spikasaur because of the wishywashiness that CHodge already pointed out.

Putting my vote on GB for now. As I said pregame I intend to spend less time on the game because I tend to get carried away. Will be back from one hour before deadline till deadline.
##Vote GlowingBear
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