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On February 23 2016 23:23 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 20:52 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 23 2016 16:05 darthfoley wrote:I know Breshke hasn't posted much but I liked this post of his On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:On February 23 2016 08:16 nooniansoong wrote:
Of course order needs to be reevaluated closer to EoD depending on how people look so far.
I am kind of in agreement with ritoky's order, but more active people should be put first. D might be better to save just because those are all low content players, so deciding early on them might be hard. im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party. I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier Why would mafia not want an AFK party near the end? Also, didn't particularly like Kush's response On February 23 2016 08:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Inactive people in early cells is bad because there's not a lot of content to go off of While that's true, you're kinda just kicking the can down the road if you want to keep AFK people in longer. Wouldn't town benefit longer from having many active players left in longer? You seem to admit that there are pros and cons to it. What makes one benefit definitively better than the other? Why does it make me scum for valuing one over the other? I never said one was definitely better than the other, but I don't think I really mentioned any pros to your strategy, which is why I questioned you in the first place. Unless you consider kicking the can down the road to be a pro. I do however think that gambling that inactive/afk people early game are going to get helpful and active later in the game-- especially if their inactivity is what got their cells placed later-- is just that: a gamble. With active players (e.g. cells A and B) isn't it a safer play to leave them in the game longer simply because their activity will allow them to be town read/scum read easier and because they'll create good town discussion? From what I've thought about your strategy, it just seems like it would benefit mafia more than town to not have that many strong towns/active towns late game and rely on low activity players to win the game for town. Am I missing something?
you say "while that's true"
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You want the easiest cells in the first three. Is that really up for debate?
The first team to three points wins. If you put easy cells last, you might not even get to them.
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On February 24 2016 00:51 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 00:48 LightningStrike wrote:On February 24 2016 00:40 Shapelog wrote:On February 23 2016 23:39 Kuragari42 wrote:On February 23 2016 22:45 Shapelog wrote:
Hai Kura! Hello son. How are you? On February 23 2016 23:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Holy wall of text shape o.o I actually starting to like you a bit. I also easy to read but I will admit I wasn't really a good town player :\ Anyways I wont run for mayor mainly because I not exactly a experience cell player :\ Me either. Tis why I do not want to run. Cells seems easier in the terms of having 2 people, on of which is scum. But harder in the ordering of the lynch. Since that is a mayor's job. I am happy being a inmate. Even if you are not up, you have only 3 people to focus on (unless you want to focus on your own. Which is bad). I not really get what you saying. Do you mean it's easier in terms of having 2 scum in a single cell or what? If not what are you trying to say? You know that 1 person, in your cell, will aways be mafia. also @Kush, what is your reasoning for scum reading Obi
I'm not good at reading obi but I have a slight townread on you and damdred.
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On February 24 2016 01:08 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 00:52 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
You want the easiest cells in the first three. Is that really up for debate?
The first team to three points wins. If you put easy cells last, you might not even get to them. its not that simple though, you have to take into account player removal as it gets smaller. You do want a crutch cell last because its a 3 way lylo. You want 2 people that are very sure of whos scum in their cell. Arguably mafia has the most influence early with 5 members in the game so I would say the best thing to do is put a shit cell first and use a power and then follow that up with 2 easy ones. then 4th cell hard again then 5th should be a very easy one because only they will be in the game. You can feel out the harder ones mid game
I agree that mafia has more influence early.
Putting an easy cell last is terrible though. The last cell only happens if it's 2-2. In a hypothetical 2-2 case with an easy last cell, you could replace a losing cell with the easy cell and have already won.
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On February 24 2016 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I dare someone to call me hard to read after that.
Go on.
I'm waiting.
So you think that wot bought you lots of towncred?
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On February 24 2016 02:25 Kuragari42 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 02:23 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:kura
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bum Sir, my Internet will not load that image. What it is of?
It's from the op. It is the cells.
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On February 24 2016 03:12 ritoky wrote:
has anyone thought about the gamblerino possibility of the 50/50? and how it might be able to land a guaranteed scum in the first cell....
first cell being?
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On February 24 2016 03:19 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 03:16 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 24 2016 03:12 ritoky wrote:
has anyone thought about the gamblerino possibility of the 50/50? and how it might be able to land a guaranteed scum in the first cell.... first cell being? the mayor puts their cell first, in this case me. 50/50's their own cell. for me there's a 50% chance it hits me which gives you vote info and eases paranoia, and a 50% chance it hits the other town in the cell; which lands us confirmed mafia.
mayor's cell has to go last right?
also how does it land us confirmed mafia? or is that under the assumption that you are confirmed town?
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anyway damdred or ritoky would both make fine mayors I think. yall need to say what order you are gonna do so we can make more informed votes.
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Why would mafia want mayor? Good mafias want their cells to go first.
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On February 24 2016 03:27 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 03:23 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 24 2016 03:19 ritoky wrote:On February 24 2016 03:16 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 24 2016 03:12 ritoky wrote:
has anyone thought about the gamblerino possibility of the 50/50? and how it might be able to land a guaranteed scum in the first cell.... first cell being? the mayor puts their cell first, in this case me. 50/50's their own cell. for me there's a 50% chance it hits me which gives you vote info and eases paranoia, and a 50% chance it hits the other town in the cell; which lands us confirmed mafia. mayor's cell has to go last right? also how does it land us confirmed mafia? or is that under the assumption that you are confirmed town? you can order the cells in any order, when i was mayor last time i put my cell first. + Show Spoiler +funny enough me and meapak, the other town in my cell, voted on the mafia in our cell, while everyone else in the game voted on meapak even though he was the most obv town ever because you shouldn't elect someone who you don't think is strong town as mayor? if mafia gets mayor they can just give a shit cell order, put themselves last, then burn both powers on the first cell or some similarly shitty scenario.
mayor does the prs. So if mayor goes first he has to use both prs on d1?
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On February 24 2016 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't actually know how I feel about those orders.
Maybe D C A B E?
why are you putting the easiest cell last...
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On February 24 2016 03:41 Damdred wrote:
You can't put your cell first if you are mayor. You have to put it early as two to use all the powers font do that
I still think my idea on cell order is the best.
ls/dart/rels, ff/va/bresh, vivax, mine or rits
I like this order. VA vs bresh should be a lot easier on d3 than d2.
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On February 24 2016 03:45 ritoky wrote:
the problem with that order is that rels is afk currently and gets more obv town over time, and everyone that isn't female is pretty shitty at reading LS on day 1.
oh yeah i forgot that rels was gonna be afk. i retardedly thought he was just afk cause he's scum....
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On February 24 2016 03:41 ritoky wrote:
i figured you could still activate them from the dead?
nah I don't think so. when you die you go into obs/
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rels good scum + afk most of day1 means he's going to be near impossible to read first day I think.
LS seems happy. According to tone meta, does that make him scum?
Darth's not super active.
So that is a shit cell d1.
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here's the order:
D- kill breshke
C - dunno yet
E - kill bum. easy win for town. ensures at least a day 4.
B - dunno yet.
A - SL will hopefully have spewed himself town by then.
Use powers as necessary.
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