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On December 29 2015 02:50 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 02:48 Holyflare wrote:On December 29 2015 02:47 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 02:39 Holyflare wrote:On December 29 2015 02:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Palmar, if you hadn't read anything and you didn't catch up, how do you know coag and rsoultin are masons? This guy probably mafia too tbh. Who's not Mafia in this game? All you have been doing is pushing a guy that people are telling you you should give him more time for his recent plays, and you keep pushing him until he claims. Then you want to lunch Tictock and ness, who you have been townreading. Why do you want to lynch ness now, Holyflare? What changed? So you're accusing me of making Vivax claim when Vivax has been calling me mafia all game? Are you okay in the head? On December 29 2015 02:34 Holyflare wrote:
but well actually maybe not regarding N E S S ^ I'm accusing you of pushing a guy solely on inactivity to the point he had to claim without caring for other inactives that are as bad as him.
Look Glowingbear.
Vivax was not inactive. He had over 2 page filter basically full of nothing. There is no way to compare him into any inactive, like Rels or Palmar or the one dude who hasnt posted at all, who were ACTUALLY inactive... Hell even boxerfred goes to this category, or at least went. Vivax was NOT inactive. He looked "inactive" while having posted because his posting was just some random things that didn't seem to be leading anywhere.
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Hmm... i am actually interested in seeing GB's answer to this.
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On December 29 2015 03:01 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 02:54 Holyflare wrote:Yup classic GB fake mafia anger. Not only are your points illogical (I couldn't have made Vivax claim, I said I don't really want to lynch Ness straight away after etc etc) but they are ones that you yourself FOLLOW IN SENTIMENT. On December 29 2015 02:47 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 02:39 Holyflare wrote:On December 29 2015 02:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Palmar, if you hadn't read anything and you didn't catch up, how do you know coag and rsoultin are masons? This guy probably mafia too tbh. Who's not Mafia in this game? All you have been doing is pushing a guy that people are telling you you should give him more time for his recent plays, and you keep pushing him until he claims. Then you want to lunch Tictock and ness, who you have been townreading. Why do you want to lynch ness now, Holyflare? What changed? Let's look at this post as a classic example of a wtf he's mafia moment. GB is calling me out for: A) Being suspicious of Vivax which is weird as fuck because: On December 28 2015 04:18 GlowingBear wrote:On December 28 2015 04:08 Vivax wrote:
If you're town and know you're never going to read this game gtfo.
If you're mafia just wait until i lynch you thats okay too And now I agree with you HF, Vivax might be the best lynch today B) Being suspicious of TickTock: On December 28 2015 00:35 GlowingBear wrote:On December 28 2015 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i really think TT is scum because everyone and their mother is willing to lynch Vivax at least on some level but everyone and their mother also refuses to commit on even giving a read on TT. Let's do it ##Vote: Tictock C) Being suspicious of N E S S: On December 28 2015 03:06 GlowingBear wrote:On December 28 2015 03:03 Holyflare wrote:
can we leave ness alone, I'm pretty sure he's town at this juncture Why is that? The only thing that is giving me pause to call him Mafia is that thing Sicklucker said. The early arguments I've brought on him + his reads not making much sense (calling me town, Mafia, then town again, and now suddenly calling Tictock and Exo Mafia out of the blue, especially when Exo looks pretty fownie to me) pretty much sells him out to me as scum. D) Being suspicious of Kush: -absent because GB has been afk for ages- So, what do we see here ladies and gentleman? Glowingbear is accusing me of calling all his mafia reads mafia and then using it to call me mafia. /case get rekt GB Yeah, you're mafia. You're completely twisting my argument here. You can call all my scum reads scum and do nothing about it. Yes, I've said after a long time that Vivax might be the best lynch because there was enough time for him to react and he didn't. But you have been pushing him since the beginning of the game while calling everyone else suspicious but doing nothing about it. And about "D", I think kush is more likely to be town than mafia here, out of tone basically. I remember very well his mafia play in avogadro's mini mafia and it's nothing like this. Plus I think him going against Palmar was an okay play. Also, why would he come back to the thread like that, drawing all attention he can? Pretty much suicidal. I'm voting you
So you think HF is scum because he pushed his main scumread (who was also your main scumread unless i am mistaken??) and tried also find other scum?
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On December 29 2015 03:08 Koshi wrote:
No he didnt. That case is bullshit and I am surprised rayn agrees.
Then what is he saying? Explain it to all of us dumb people please.
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I think Holyflare is mafia because he kept pushing a townie....[...]
GB saying things like this only makes you look terrible.
If you don't understand why, then i can't help you.
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On December 29 2015 03:10 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 02:47 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 02:39 Holyflare wrote:On December 29 2015 02:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Palmar, if you hadn't read anything and you didn't catch up, how do you know coag and rsoultin are masons? This guy probably mafia too tbh. Who's not Mafia in this game? All you have been doing is pushing a guy that people are telling you you should give him more time for his recent plays, and you keep pushing him until he claims. Then you want to lunch Tictock and ness, who you have been townreading. Why do you want to lynch ness now, Holyflare? What changed? Nothing in this post even suggest that GB is pushing HF for having the same scumreads. GB says HF wants to lynch townreads.The part GB says about Vivax is trash though.
yes which is factually incorrect.
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On December 29 2015 03:12 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:08 Koshi wrote:
No he didnt. That case is bullshit and I am surprised rayn agrees. Then what is he saying? Explain it to all of us dumb people please. Read the post... nothing GB said was about having the same scumreads. HF his case is bullshit because he starts with an hypothesis that is a lie and then proves the lie...
What is the hypothesis that is a lie?
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On December 29 2015 03:13 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Holyflare is mafia because he kept pushing a townie....[...] GB saying things like this only makes you look terrible. If you don't understand why, then i can't help you. "WHILE" is the most important word here, that you kept out. Pushing a townie is okay. Pushing a townie while throwing suspicions everywhere and doing nothing with them while people kept saying he should backoff and agreeing Tictock is scummy while not even trying to vote him once is not.
This is a really shitty case GlowingBear.....
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On December 29 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:13 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Holyflare is mafia because he kept pushing a townie....[...] GB saying things like this only makes you look terrible. If you don't understand why, then i can't help you. "WHILE" is the most important word here, that you kept out. Pushing a townie is okay. Pushing a townie while throwing suspicions everywhere and doing nothing with them while people kept saying he should backoff and agreeing Tictock is scummy while not even trying to vote him once is not. This is a really shitty case GlowingBear..... Tell me what's wrong with it
Because you are literally saying HF should not have pushed his main scumread over other people (which is stupid).
If HF thinks Vivax is more likely to be mafia it only makes sense for him to NOT vote for TT and push Vivax instead.
Also after Vivax claimed HF made the only logical thing and moved his vote to his #2 scumread, TT.
There is absolutely nothing wrong in his play or what he has done, if this is your case, which it seems to be. Especially if take account the fact you YOURSELF scumread the SAME people he does....
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I'll be back in 20, gotta go buy some drinks.
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On December 29 2015 03:27 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:13 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Holyflare is mafia because he kept pushing a townie....[...] GB saying things like this only makes you look terrible. If you don't understand why, then i can't help you. "WHILE" is the most important word here, that you kept out. Pushing a townie is okay. Pushing a townie while throwing suspicions everywhere and doing nothing with them while people kept saying he should backoff and agreeing Tictock is scummy while not even trying to vote him once is not. This is a really shitty case GlowingBear..... Tell me what's wrong with it Because you are literally saying HF should not have pushed his main scumread over other people (which is stupid). If HF thinks Vivax is more likely to be mafia it only makes sense for him to NOT vote for TT and push Vivax instead. Also after Vivax claimed HF made the only logical thing and moved his vote to his #2 scumread, TT. There is absolutely nothing wrong in his play or what he has done, if this is your case, which it seems to be. Especially if take account the fact you YOURSELF scumread the SAME people he does.... Again, it's not about who he scumreads. It's about HOW he does it. He kept on Vivax. People said he shouldn't. He threw suspicions everywhere without going anywhere with those suspicions. Vivax claimed. Holyflare agreed Tictock was scum. Never votes Tictock and pushes kush for something that doesn't make kush scum. Finally votes Tictock one hour ago. I post and he finds me suspicious. I say he is scum, he twists my arguments to start a wagon on me. My main argument is: he keeps saying Tictock is a good lynch but is reluctant to lynch him (never really interacts much with Tictock), when he sees himself out of options he throw suspicions everywhere and starts a wagon on me while twisting my arguments.
So that would only make HF mafia if TicTock is scum right?
Because otherwise he is refusing to vote for a townie -- which is not scummy.
I am not going to check rn if your story stands up or not, because i don't think that makes HF mafia even if it does. I think you are exaggerrating the "reluctant to lynch" thing.
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On December 29 2015 03:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:27 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:13 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Holyflare is mafia because he kept pushing a townie....[...] GB saying things like this only makes you look terrible. If you don't understand why, then i can't help you. "WHILE" is the most important word here, that you kept out. Pushing a townie is okay. Pushing a townie while throwing suspicions everywhere and doing nothing with them while people kept saying he should backoff and agreeing Tictock is scummy while not even trying to vote him once is not. This is a really shitty case GlowingBear..... Tell me what's wrong with it Because you are literally saying HF should not have pushed his main scumread over other people (which is stupid). If HF thinks Vivax is more likely to be mafia it only makes sense for him to NOT vote for TT and push Vivax instead. Also after Vivax claimed HF made the only logical thing and moved his vote to his #2 scumread, TT. There is absolutely nothing wrong in his play or what he has done, if this is your case, which it seems to be. Especially if take account the fact you YOURSELF scumread the SAME people he does.... Again, it's not about who he scumreads. It's about HOW he does it. He kept on Vivax. People said he shouldn't. He threw suspicions everywhere without going anywhere with those suspicions. Vivax claimed. Holyflare agreed Tictock was scum. Never votes Tictock and pushes kush for something that doesn't make kush scum. Finally votes Tictock one hour ago. I post and he finds me suspicious. I say he is scum, he twists my arguments to start a wagon on me. My main argument is: he keeps saying Tictock is a good lynch but is reluctant to lynch him (never really interacts much with Tictock), when he sees himself out of options he throw suspicions everywhere and starts a wagon on me while twisting my arguments. So your main case on him is association based on TT being mafia. TT has a lot of votes. HF had none. Why did you vote HF instead of TT?
Maybe you are town after all.
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On December 29 2015 03:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
When is deadline? Who do I vote for?
On December 29 2015 03:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
When is deadline? Who do I vote for?
You vote for TicTock.
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On December 29 2015 03:58 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 03:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:27 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:13 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think Holyflare is mafia because he kept pushing a townie....[...] GB saying things like this only makes you look terrible. If you don't understand why, then i can't help you. "WHILE" is the most important word here, that you kept out. Pushing a townie is okay. Pushing a townie while throwing suspicions everywhere and doing nothing with them while people kept saying he should backoff and agreeing Tictock is scummy while not even trying to vote him once is not. This is a really shitty case GlowingBear..... Tell me what's wrong with it Because you are literally saying HF should not have pushed his main scumread over other people (which is stupid). If HF thinks Vivax is more likely to be mafia it only makes sense for him to NOT vote for TT and push Vivax instead. Also after Vivax claimed HF made the only logical thing and moved his vote to his #2 scumread, TT. There is absolutely nothing wrong in his play or what he has done, if this is your case, which it seems to be. Especially if take account the fact you YOURSELF scumread the SAME people he does.... Again, it's not about who he scumreads. It's about HOW he does it. He kept on Vivax. People said he shouldn't. He threw suspicions everywhere without going anywhere with those suspicions. Vivax claimed. Holyflare agreed Tictock was scum. Never votes Tictock and pushes kush for something that doesn't make kush scum. Finally votes Tictock one hour ago. I post and he finds me suspicious. I say he is scum, he twists my arguments to start a wagon on me. My main argument is: he keeps saying Tictock is a good lynch but is reluctant to lynch him (never really interacts much with Tictock), when he sees himself out of options he throw suspicions everywhere and starts a wagon on me while twisting my arguments. So that would only make HF mafia if TicTock is scum right? Because otherwise he is refusing to vote for a townie -- which is not scummy. I am not going to check rn if your story stands up or not, because i don't think that makes HF mafia even if it does. I think you are exaggerrating the "reluctant to lynch" thing. isn't a matter or refusing to vote for what he thinks isn't a townie? If HF thinks TT is scum then why would he be hesitant to vote him? The only reason to be hesitant about lynching a townie here (who HF suspect is mafia) is that he knows that TT is town and the only way he'd know that is if he was scum
The thing is we are talking about Holyflare here. He has already set up a venue on voting for TicTock (if not Vivax), so when Vivax claims -- if HF is scum and TT town here -- he will definitely vote for TT. That is where GB's argument falls apart (even if we believe his side of things here). There is not a world where scum!HF does not insta-vote town!TT when Vivax claims.
I can guarantee you in this game it is impossible that both HF is scum and TT is town are true.
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On December 29 2015 04:08 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:58 ExO_ wrote:On December 29 2015 03:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:27 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 03:13 GlowingBear wrote:On December 29 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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GB saying things like this only makes you look terrible.
If you don't understand why, then i can't help you. "WHILE" is the most important word here, that you kept out. Pushing a townie is okay. Pushing a townie while throwing suspicions everywhere and doing nothing with them while people kept saying he should backoff and agreeing Tictock is scummy while not even trying to vote him once is not. This is a really shitty case GlowingBear..... Tell me what's wrong with it Because you are literally saying HF should not have pushed his main scumread over other people (which is stupid). If HF thinks Vivax is more likely to be mafia it only makes sense for him to NOT vote for TT and push Vivax instead. Also after Vivax claimed HF made the only logical thing and moved his vote to his #2 scumread, TT. There is absolutely nothing wrong in his play or what he has done, if this is your case, which it seems to be. Especially if take account the fact you YOURSELF scumread the SAME people he does.... Again, it's not about who he scumreads. It's about HOW he does it. He kept on Vivax. People said he shouldn't. He threw suspicions everywhere without going anywhere with those suspicions. Vivax claimed. Holyflare agreed Tictock was scum. Never votes Tictock and pushes kush for something that doesn't make kush scum. Finally votes Tictock one hour ago. I post and he finds me suspicious. I say he is scum, he twists my arguments to start a wagon on me. My main argument is: he keeps saying Tictock is a good lynch but is reluctant to lynch him (never really interacts much with Tictock), when he sees himself out of options he throw suspicions everywhere and starts a wagon on me while twisting my arguments. So that would only make HF mafia if TicTock is scum right? Because otherwise he is refusing to vote for a townie -- which is not scummy. I am not going to check rn if your story stands up or not, because i don't think that makes HF mafia even if it does. I think you are exaggerrating the "reluctant to lynch" thing. isn't a matter or refusing to vote for what he thinks isn't a townie? If HF thinks TT is scum then why would he be hesitant to vote him? The only reason to be hesitant about lynching a townie here (who HF suspect is mafia) is that he knows that TT is town and the only way he'd know that is if he was scum The thing is we are talking about Holyflare here. He has already set up a venue on voting for TicTock (if not Vivax), so when Vivax claims -- if HF is scum and TT town here -- he will definitely vote for TT. That is where GB's argument falls apart (even if we believe his side of things here). There is not a world where scum!HF does not insta-vote town!TT when Vivax claims. I can guarantee you in this game it is impossible that both HF is scum and TT is town are true. I do like this point and I hate that Rayn stole it from me. :'(
write faster biash
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And that is why GB seems a bit fishy here. Othe stuff and his case i can understand coming from town.
I can't understand why is he not pushing TT instead of HF -- because he should.
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On December 29 2015 04:09 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is not a world where scum!HF does not insta-vote town!TT when Vivax claims.
Why not? Do you think hes that easily predictable?
Until i see a game that proves me wrong yes.
This is like one of the easiest things to figure out.
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On December 29 2015 04:10 Vivax wrote:
Meanwhile completely ignoring that HF probably only pushed town with his usual outflux of fact twisting
But that is not what he did, and even if he did.. Do you think also me and Artanis and Damdred are mafia because we saw the same thing HF did. Geez... You got almost the full fucking scumteam here.
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On December 29 2015 04:13 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2015 04:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 29 2015 04:09 Vivax wrote:On December 29 2015 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is not a world where scum!HF does not insta-vote town!TT when Vivax claims.
Why not? Do you think hes that easily predictable? Until i see a game that proves me wrong yes. This is like one of the easiest things to figure out. He made it clear he was just spite voting me (idk why) after my claim so you cant bring that argument. When I made 2 posts he was already convinced I was mafia.
I was also pretty cunvinced you are mafia from the beginning of the game until you claimed.
Just because i didn't put my same basket as HF doesn't make him any more scum than anyone who thought you were mafia -- because it was actually fucking reasonable to assume you were mafia, tbh....
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