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The Shining
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On January 03 2016 12:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote: It's literally what you said. I'm quoting it from your own post. Yeah I'm not sure where the disconnect is here. I think he's saying when you said you'd be willing to lynch BF, you having other scumreads would make you suspicious. And you said you were scum reading TT. So you did have at least one other scumread. But he called you out on reading comprehension? What did I miss? | ||
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The Shining
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On January 03 2016 12:44 Damdred wrote: Probably null at this point. If he flips town it would also be a good indicator about the odd interaction between him and slam You mean the Ness/NM slot? | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On January 03 2016 12:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm also sort of confused, so I'm asking. Sort of off topic, but did he seem somewhat annoyed to you? He seemed sort of annoyed while he was here. He did but I'm not sure what to make of it. Like it could be annoyance over what he first said. He's been trying to push kush a bunch when he's here, although he hasn't been shoving it down our throats. He just keeps asking if he's the only one. But that could be town thinking he caught scum and no one is listening to him. I have to check the other times he mentioned kush, too. Because he left shortly after those posts. I'm wondering if he's mentioned kush before and afkd it after, too. Because there's no reason to get frustrated if you're going to ask if anyone sees what you see, then leave. | ||
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The Shining
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On January 04 2016 07:47 Palmar wrote: I promised to talk about the onegu/damdred thing. There is no way they're both mafia. The reason for this is that they both look bad when tictock flips. It's too much invested into getting one random guy lynched. Even if mafia knew he was a role. IF mafia knows he's a role (rolecop) only damdred can be mafia (and not onegu) because there is no way onegu claims a red on him as mafia, knowing he'll just claim blue and will never be cc'd. We also know (from the nightkills on n2) that mafia had not at day 2 hit any townies with the rolecop (JK/Cop is autokill and the masons are already outed). So, either the mafia rolecop missed, or it hit tt, in which case only damdred can be mafia. On the other hand, if mafia had no idea what tt's role was, onegu can be mafia, and if he is, damdred is almost certainly not, because people (like myself) were actively calling for the gunsmith not to CC tictock. The only problem with this theory is why would onegu go 1 for 1 on someone whose role he doesn't know and who is so scummy that people were literally mad that he didn't get lynched on day 1. It's just not worth it. So, technically it's more likely damdred is mafia, but I really, really think they're both town. For the Onegu theory, isn't it possible an RC that isn't Damdred RCd TT and it was shared in scum QT? If Onegu is a goon, him going 1 for 1 to eliminate the GS before a 2nd gun is given out makes total sense. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
I won't pretend that I have a read on slam other than an early scum lean for what I thought was his fake anger. Then he got all apologetic and then useless again. Probably going to vote GB because it saves Palm. And he had like 9 out of his 10 page filter before new year. He fell off hard. Also I can't remember but who was it that said I was more engaged early game as opposed to now? OO? Lol when have I been engaged at any point this game? I'm playing sub optimal town to this point but saying something like that implies I was actually doing good at some point this game, which I don't feel is true. It just felt like an attempt to discredit me and set up a ML. But it's weird because he didn't push me for being disengaged, but because I went from engaged to disengaged. Even Palm said he thought I wasn't useless as town, implying I've been useless all game. So where was I engaged? O.o | ||
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The Shining
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The Shining
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On January 06 2016 00:57 Palmar wrote: fuck it I'm actually going away see you tonight maybe. If I don't come back, don't lynch sl, damdred, onegu and ritoky. Probably don't lynch NM and maybe don't lynch exo. lynch into slam, shining, oo maybe ows It's super important to remember the people who are not doing jack shit or just show up to randomly say things when it's convenient. It's almost a good idea to just lynch shortest filter first tbh. I want to lynch slam and prob oo too and I afkd a vote on GB. This makes me sad. Shining best lynchbait 2016 | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On January 06 2016 01:42 ExO_ wrote: Also Where is Shining? I had kinda forgot about him myself He said this before I came back, have thoughts on GB Palm and Slam, voted GB and afkd. Phone posting right now and usually Damdred is right about Monday/Tuesday but I figured I should probably start trying. Getting shot as blue in ongoing game lit a fire under me. And considering how useless I've been, I'm pretty sure I don't get shot tonight. I'll start tryharding tonight | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On January 06 2016 05:00 ExO_ wrote: I think kush is probably scum. I know you said without associative reads to Palmar, but if Im operating under the assumption that Palmar is town (which I am right now) then kush town reading him when every other townie who died so far scum read him is suspect. Shining is suspect to me right now. Only 4 pages of filter and is continually in state of "will be trying later". I don't know how much I buy of him being this inactive as town. I think good chance of slam being scum. But its purely based on people im town reading, you and Damdred, driving me that way Now what tinfoil hat theory are you talking about? Even when I play, I have short filters. Even when im in a trying later state, I say stuff. Might not be good or thought out but I'm not skating by. Try harder pls. Are you saying you're familiar with my town meta and that I'm not inactive as town then? What's your read on Trfel atm? | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On January 06 2016 05:59 ExO_ wrote: I town read trfel pretty early on and I haven't seen a good reason to change that read. ofc I haven't payed much attention to anything other than Palmar lately. Is there a reason I should change my town read on trfel? Also try harder? You first mate. Actually give me a case that I can get behind because so far you've hardly done anything. I've been phone posting a bunch my last few times here so cases are a bit hard to make and even though it's late in the game, I'm still fleshing out reads. Like yours. So if Trfel is a tr of yours since pretty early on, why have you been focusing only on Palmar and now trying to scum kush for what looks like tmi regarding Palmars alignment? You've dropped your scum read on Palmar and are now accusing kush of knowing he's town cuz of tmi. Why isn't kush scum for anything Trfel mentioned, since he's been scumming/trying to push him multiple times? I'll have to check your filter to see if you even mentioned Trfels case on kush. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On January 06 2016 06:37 ExO_ wrote: Again I was pushing Palmar because I was convinced he's scum. I wasn't seeing too much beyond that. What does trfel being a town read of mine have to do with me focusing on Palmar? And scumming Kush for tmi on Palmar, are you kidding me right now? You've been getting my thoughts pretty much straight up this game. I don't always read and I can get caught up in my own ideas sometimes. If you really think I'm playing some kind of next level scum game the lynch me. I'm not scum, and I'm trying my best here. I may not be the best player at this game but I am trying. I'm not carefully editting my posts before I post them because I have nothing to hide. I hardly know anything about trfels case on Kush. I haven't payed a lot of attention to trfel lately. Wow this Is the worst kind of response I could've expected. Are you serious right now? Here, let me break this down for you. You town read Trfel. You scum read Palmar. Trfel makes a scum case on kush. You flip your read on Palmar and call kush scum because he town read Palmar when dead townies scummed him. Flipping your read means you think Palmar is town. Kush towning him when no one else did means you're scumming him for having tmi. While you accuse kush, you don't mention Trfels case on him. But if you thought Trfel is town, you should have paid attention to that case when scumming kush, instead of only paying attention to association between him and Palmar. Now do you understand?? And I was simply asking a question to flesh out my read on you. I didn't scumread you. That guilt trip you just tried to put me on is fucking atrocious if you're town, instead of just answering me and interacting with me, since you claim I haven't done anything. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On January 06 2016 06:37 ExO_ wrote: Again I was pushing Palmar because I was convinced he's scum. I wasn't seeing too much beyond that. What does trfel being a town read of mine have to do with me focusing on Palmar? And scumming Kush for tmi on Palmar, are you kidding me right now? You've been getting my thoughts pretty much straight up this game. I don't always read and I can get caught up in my own ideas sometimes. If you really think I'm playing some kind of next level scum game the lynch me. I'm not scum, and I'm trying my best here. I may not be the best player at this game but I am trying. I'm not carefully editting my posts before I post them because I have nothing to hide. I hardly know anything about trfels case on Kush. I haven't payed a lot of attention to trfel lately. Then what do you call the bolded? My goal here is not to tilt you. A misunderstanding makes a lot more sense but I couldn't really see the logic behind you reacting that way to a scum read which I didn't even give. Like it's the first question I've asked you all game and I don't even think you're reading me town so going into martyr mode that fast felt really scummy to me | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
Damdred could be, as well. Going against that is game losing is pretty strong language. I guess I'm glad Trfel is off the ml table but ugh. I'm in a meeting right now, bb in a few hrs | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On January 06 2016 10:13 Damdred wrote: Why not trfel kush Lmao really | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On January 06 2016 09:55 nooniansoong wrote: 8. Waylanner (replaced by ObviousOne) 9. Exo_ 19. The Shining 24. Alakaslam cool, game solved Your POE sucks. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On January 06 2016 11:50 ObviousOne wrote: coag pls read ritoky and give your opinion damn we [shining] could be scum together based on our filters our sole interaction based on your filter was you giving me a list of names to make reads on and no follow up to any of them that i can see it's not the worst poe ever and it makes sense in its own way when taken as a whole. i mean it's probably at least half wrong but it's consistent. then again maybe that's the issue, did kush pull a Ptroughton2 (me in smurf mini mafia hosted by gmarshal) where he pretty much decided who he was going to call what and stick with it for a majority of the game with only minor changes? does that explain why he used his analytic approach to dole out only the reads he could confidently make and defend without looking like scum? i once again mention that his filter length is quite a lot longer than what we're used to seeing from a mafia!kush but it does bear some thought. i feel better about reading kush when there are tinfoil-sounding theories than this new version of him. Nah he just sucks because he keeps including me in his POE and soft scumming me and never does a Damn thing about it and hasn't even tried to interact with me since like d1 Probably because he knows I'm town. Kinda sad Trfel died after letting go of his kush scum read, so it doesn't implicate kush anymore that Trfel died | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On January 06 2016 12:21 ObviousOne wrote: palm please tell me if you see what i see? the shining - battle of the drams mafia where he was scum that is similar to current game, but is missing from this game - student mafia xvi - where he was town Oh no, scum oo is bussing scum shining - kush pov I roll vt like 93% of the time, this game is no exception. I guess I need to curse out the next person to scum me and omgus them and drop a wall of text to play to my town meta, right? I'm burned out on rolling vt but I'm town this game. Tell me why I'd vote town Rels after scumming TT at :59 when both were town. What's the scum motivation? Scum wouldn't give two shyts about that lynch. Why would I attack GB d1 then afk lynch him as scum last day phase? Please find something to scum me for besides my inactivity during holiday season. Why do you need Palmar to validate you? If you think I'm scum, and are comparing past games, make a case instead of asking Palmar to do it for you so I can see your case and decide if it's coming from scum or town. Chances are it'll be a scummy case and spew me town  | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On January 06 2016 12:45 ObviousOne wrote: holy shit i used a smiley (FUCK, THE SAME SMILEY AS YOU, THEY'RE ON TO US!) They're different smileys. Obvious misrepresentation here. You're so scum =l | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On January 05 2016 04:06 The Shining wrote: I'd vote GB or Slam. Not Palmar, though. Even if it was just for survival, I don't think scum could go to that level of analysis on multiple people with an impending lynch. I won't pretend that I have a read on slam other than an early scum lean for what I thought was his fake anger. Then he got all apologetic and then useless again. Probably going to vote GB because it saves Palm. And he had like 9 out of his 10 page filter before new year. He fell off hard. I can't remember but who was it that said I was more engaged early game as opposed to now? OO? Lol when have I been engaged at any point this game? I'm playing sub optimal town to this point but saying something like that implies I was actually doing good at some point this game, which I don't feel is true. It just felt like an attempt to discredit me and set up a ML. But it's weird because he didn't push me for being disengaged, but because I went from engaged to disengaged. Even Palm said he thought I wasn't useless as town, implying I've been useless all game. So where was I engaged? O.o OO why? You never responded to this or explained what about my early game ever made me engaged to you. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On January 04 2016 00:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why on Exo/GB? And explain Trfel to me too pls. You know... A couple of posts, about a day, before this post, OWS claimed he'd write up a case on Trfel. That case never happened. And then OWS asked Noon to explain to him why Trfel was definitely scum. Why would he be asking why Trfel was scum if he already thought Trfel was scum and planned on making a case unless he knew he was town and therefore couldn't come up with a case? Hm | ||
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