Newbie Student Mafia XVII: Fullmetal Edition - Page 82

On November 22 2015 10:00 disformation wrote:


My, what a fine sample! *Looks at it through a magnifying glass usually reserved for the finest of diamonds*
At least you make me laugh. <3

On November 22 2015 06:38 NocturneMage wrote:
Got interrupted.

For Shining, he brings up good points in 1466 and 1472 and I don't think those plus the rebuttal in 1479 could come from scum.

Also Breshke defending Shining doesn't really make Shining mafia, he can't control what Breshke does.

So I'm on post 1469, where ritoky is posting to Shining. Two things I'm looking at closely.

#2 if I remember the timing right Shining not playing at the time cited wasn't alignment indicative since he doesn't play Mondays and Tuesdays. I wasn't sure at the time if ritoky was just ignorant of this or if he didn't know about that and he was just voting people or putting in a lynch list he wasn't sure of. Him fighting with Eversince for being under anesthesia doesn't mean he's mafia though if you looked at the reasonings why. The excuses aren't mafia in of themselves, but why he voted him over Scott, who knows.

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is another reason as to why this setup reason is why he's backing off Trfel. But most critically is that post when he tries to push Trfel over Breshke and he says "Trfel has done scummy things, Breshke has not done anything."

I backtracked to when around the time ritoky "gave up" and decided to vote Breshke based on the FF case. He asked Trfel about an hour after he made his post pushing Trfel for a list of reasons and that was before he read the two cases.

Well the point of Breshke "not doing much of anything" was effectively in Fecalfeast's filter when he said "this filter is random, I want him to explain" (post 1287) and that was the long case on Breshke.

But the real issue is that FF's case on Breshke was on day 1 material. When ritoky pushed trfel day 2, his pushing Trfel day 2 was based on "Trfel doign scummy things nad Breshke not really doing anything" with that activity on day 1.

Why did it take Fecalfeast casing Breshke for ritoky to actually make the conclusion he did on Breshke when the material wasn't new and it was the same material at the time he was pushing Trfel that made Breshke less mafia than Trfel (in ritoky's view)? That gets me.

It actually makes sense for Trfel to even comment what he did - Fecalfeast pushing Breshke? "that's the easiest push in the world." So Trfel suspecting Fecalfeast actually makes Trfel less mafia (for me) and makes me question why ritoky actually didn't try to lynch Fecalfeast (or push him) if the case's material/basis was for material that didn't make him suspect compared to Trfel to begin with. After all he liked Trfel's case on Fecalfeast.

So that doesn't add up for ritoky.

On October 01 2015 06:42 The Shining wrote:


Why the fuck are you misrepresenting me? I questioned Moosy and am still on the fence about him, never changed him but it helped that he shared my view on CoolTL. I was thinking LS could be scum but unless he's bussing D1, cool and LS can't be scum together. And my points on cool are stronger than my suspicion on LS so my vote is staying where its at. How is that just a semi push on cool with no other suspicion?

Mind you, I've already said multiple times and its common knowledge that I don't really have time to get online Monday/Tuesday, so I've done what I can with my time up until now. It doesn't help that I'm stuck phone posting today.

On November 16 2015 05:58 The Shining wrote:


You're just mad that my first scum win was against you while I was super lurky. It's OK, I understand. Please explain what you mean by not pointed? I'm asking questions to flesh out my reads, since nothing else is happening for me to read/react on.

Also, since you bring up my posting frequency, you should know that my activity depends heavily on what day of the week it is and how busy work is. I almost never have time to play on Monday/Tuesday and today is Sunday so I want to get the most out of my playing time today.

On November 16 2015 06:06 The Shining wrote:
Like right now a bunch of posts and discussion have appeared and yet, just like I said, Eversince voted Farrah, mentioned no one else and is now gone. I don't like that because it's exactly what scum Eversince did when she came into thread last game.

And VE you claim a lot of people posted already so here's a list for you.

Scott, Moosy, Breshke, nocturne, ritoky, Trfel. Half the game still hasn't shown up so saying "so many" have posted and i should have townreads is just discrediting me and my playstyle. And fecal has made useless posts. Disformation asked a pointless question about FF just waking up, as if its alignment indicative and a joke vote proposal on voting Scott. These things are early enough for me to find them null until I see what they actually do.

On October 04 2015 05:47 The Shining wrote:
Probably the shittiest 20 or so pages I've had to read in this game. If you think I'm scum, just lynch me so you can keep cool around as the biggest question mark that avoided two lynches and lose the game tomorrow.

While you're at it, you can explain how scum Shining has been trying to bus scum cool since D1, since you have him as scum, rayn and Rels. Makes a lot of fucking sense. You too, Moosy. I should be looked into if cool is scum? When I've been trying to bury him for softing me as scum D2 and then never doing anything about it?

And Damdred is right, I begin to start looking at Trfels filter and starting to hash things out with RSo regarding her suspicion of him and he comes back with this huge case based on meta and what he thinks I should be doing with my time. I don't even want to waste my time with a little over an hour before EoD so I'll only cover some of the bigger points. Then you can ask me w.e you want.

On October 04 2015 07:07 The Shining wrote:
I hate this fucking game.

On October 07 2015 06:41 The Shining wrote:
Welp gg town we lost. I don't even really care, I stopped caring for this game after the BS cool flip. I had every expectation of getting lynched today but I couldn't be assed to play the last few days cuz of IRL shit.

I do believe we got fucked this game because of the Damdred cc and weird balance but w.e. I'm pretty glad this game is going to be over soon anyway, too much BM from different people but I won't point any fingers. There was a reason why I left TL for a while. GG.

On November 22 2015 10:50 The Shining wrote:
I could probably get on that lynch, tbh, if I do end up agreeing that the too scummy to be scum stuff actually makes him scum. One thing I noticed in his filter was his change in tones as he got mad/frustrated. He was one of the hardest pushes onto Scott and even admitted after N1 that he was wrong on 3 of his scumread(VE,Scott, geript). But after saying he shouldn't lead town because he can't lynch scum(which is true, he didn't lynch Bresh d2), he gets onto Fecal and starts getting all huffy and puffy about no one listening to him. He even tried to shift the d1 lynch blame onto everyone else for following him.

That's 4 incorrect reads Trfel has had and 3 at the time when he tried to push Fecal. You would think he'd be a little hesitant and less confident after being wrong 3x, no? Why so confident to the point that we are all bad for not listening to him?

Also his read progression on disformation seemed odd. He defended disfo early, even claiming he had the longest filter up to a point in the game, and didn't discuss disfo much at all afterwards. There was his push into Farrah. Then disfo ends up on his "look into" list with Fecal. But no real discussion of disfo, just a case on Fecal. And disfo is now on his poe list with Onegu and FF. But he never really discussed the ES/Onegu slot except to say ES was impossible to read.