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On November 19 2015 06:43 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 06:24 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Everyone except Ritoky, Eversince and FecalFeast have entered the thread at this point.
You claim your shot as soon as you can as vig so that mafia can't create confusion later on with claiming the shot.
We can eliminate Ritoky from the list of consideration because he hard town read VE throughout the day even if he dropped a bit due to inactivity.
Eversince hasn't been here and didn't respond during the night which makes her highly unlikely to be the vigilante
FecalFeast is the best candidate left currently. Sorry not sure how I missed this. I don't think the vigi has to claim straight away but its not worth discussing and i can see why you would think that.
I do not like that post from Farah at all. This is day 2, not mylo.
I might be somewhat new here, but from all the games I've obsed, I can think of a few decent reasons for the vig waiting to claim. I can't see any town motivation personally for trying to openly out the vig or any blue role for that matter.
The Eversince comment is a bad one because you don't know for sure if she's reading and just choosing not to post for medical/whatever and may have just slipped a PM. Who knows.
The ritoky comment is bad in the event someone tinfoiled (is that the right English word) geript and scum went bluehunting on VE, which would implicate a veteran, someone who might know VE's play to take a gander on him. You cannot eliminate that possibility.
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On November 19 2015 06:41 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 06:31 disformation wrote:On November 19 2015 06:30 Breshke wrote:
Farah are you going to explain why FF is the vigi? On November 19 2015 06:24 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Everyone except Ritoky, Eversince and FecalFeast have entered the thread at this point.
You claim your shot as soon as you can as vig so that mafia can't create confusion later on with claiming the shot.
We can eliminate Ritoky from the list of consideration because he hard town read VE throughout the day even if he dropped a bit due to inactivity.
Eversince hasn't been here and didn't respond during the night which makes her highly unlikely to be the vigilante
FecalFeast is the best candidate left currently. I mean this was a few posts up on the same page. Are you reading and thinking or just asking questions for the sake of looking active?
This is actually really dumb by the way. You're saying I Saw farahs post explaining it and decided to just ask anyway because as scum I would think it makes me look good. I don't follow any logic there.
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On November 19 2015 06:46 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 06:25 disformation wrote:On November 19 2015 06:08 Breshke wrote:
disformation can you explain to me exactly what you mean when you say "waffly" Being but a leaf in the wind. Basically: On November 18 2015 02:00 FarahBlackwing wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote disinformation
Actually this might be the right way to go today, we can discuss scott/moos during he night and see how we want our vig/cop to act in that regard.
But disinformation isn't committing to anything, hes keeping his options open to see which way the wind is going to blow so that he can conceivably go with thread sentiment. His last two posts have set him up so that he can sheep either side as he has doubts about both. Its interesting to say the least. She votes me, then unvotes me, votes Breshke, votes Scott and so on, being very unsure about things. Notice that she didn't post a lot of reads before I asked her to. This changed just now when she straight up went ahead and votes breshke today. So I can start getting waffly ( as in not sure if I want to keep the maffay read) on her again.  I think I might be reading this wrong or ive missed something. To me the bolded implies you had a mafia read on farah? When was this and for what reasons
Night 1, because she was as waffly, if not even more than me.
I looked at the behaviour of ppl at vote time and founds hers to be really suspicious as in "oh I dont really care which townie I vote for". Though she strangely avoided MD.
Link to my huge post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=48#948
Also currently working on a response to The Shining on ritoky.
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I need to brb for a few hours srry
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I'll head this off now probably not enough time to fight off a snowball.
Hard claiming blue.
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On November 19 2015 06:24 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Everyone except Ritoky, Eversince and FecalFeast have entered the thread at this point.
You claim your shot as soon as you can as vig so that mafia can't create confusion later on with claiming the shot.
We can eliminate Ritoky from the list of consideration because he hard town read VE throughout the day even if he dropped a bit due to inactivity.
Eversince hasn't been here and didn't respond during the night which makes her highly unlikely to be the vigilante
FecalFeast is the best candidate left currently.
so what you're saying is you know VE was the vigi shot and not geript? how?
also who the fuck shoots ve or geript as vigi....
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On November 19 2015 06:51 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 06:43 Breshke wrote:On November 19 2015 06:24 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Everyone except Ritoky, Eversince and FecalFeast have entered the thread at this point.
You claim your shot as soon as you can as vig so that mafia can't create confusion later on with claiming the shot.
We can eliminate Ritoky from the list of consideration because he hard town read VE throughout the day even if he dropped a bit due to inactivity.
Eversince hasn't been here and didn't respond during the night which makes her highly unlikely to be the vigilante
FecalFeast is the best candidate left currently. Sorry not sure how I missed this. I don't think the vigi has to claim straight away but its not worth discussing and i can see why you would think that. I do not like that post from Farah at all. This is day 2, not mylo. I might be somewhat new here, but from all the games I've obsed, I can think of a few decent reasons for the vig waiting to claim. I can't see any town motivation personally for trying to openly out the vig or any blue role for that matter. The Eversince comment is a bad one because you don't know for sure if she's reading and just choosing not to post for medical/whatever and may have just slipped a PM. Who knows. The ritoky comment is bad in the event someone tinfoiled (is that the right English word) geript and scum went bluehunting on VE, which would implicate a veteran, someone who might know VE's play to take a gander on him. You cannot eliminate that possibility.
also the "mafia can't create confusion later with the shot" isn't a good comment at all because we know there's a vig and if they try to fakeclaim, they will be counterclaimed. That play is a one-for-one or not a good strategy for mafia even if they make the vanilla scum do it.
back to work, see you at break time.
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On November 19 2015 06:51 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 06:41 The Shining wrote:On November 19 2015 06:31 disformation wrote:On November 19 2015 06:30 Breshke wrote:
Farah are you going to explain why FF is the vigi? On November 19 2015 06:24 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Everyone except Ritoky, Eversince and FecalFeast have entered the thread at this point.
You claim your shot as soon as you can as vig so that mafia can't create confusion later on with claiming the shot.
We can eliminate Ritoky from the list of consideration because he hard town read VE throughout the day even if he dropped a bit due to inactivity.
Eversince hasn't been here and didn't respond during the night which makes her highly unlikely to be the vigilante
FecalFeast is the best candidate left currently. I mean this was a few posts up on the same page. Are you reading and thinking or just asking questions for the sake of looking active? This is actually really dumb by the way. You're saying I Saw farahs post explaining it and decided to just ask anyway because as scum I would think it makes me look good. I don't follow any logic there.
No I'm saying you missed it because you weren't reading and used something she mentioned a few pages ago to try and ask a question that IMO doesn't mean much just to look like you're questioning your scumread. And to answer your last post, about wondering what you're gaining, I'm asking because it isn't in the thread. So you're getting reads from these questions? What are they besides disfo and Farrah scum? Are the other people you questioned town then? Did you find a 3rd scum? These things are what I'm asking about
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On November 19 2015 06:53 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I'll head this off now probably not enough time to fight off a snowball.
Hard claiming blue.
.......or not.
someone help me with claim analysis please? if you hard claim you're supposed to claim a role?
anyways, why are you claiming so early in the cycle? there are 46 hours left in the damn cycle and you're pulling this shit already? or are you really going to afk for much of the next 46 hours?
this doesn't feel right.
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vigi should just claim. only 1 of 2 setups are possible now, vigi + doc or vigi + vet. in both you are just flat confirmed town and in the vigi + doc setup you're confirmed town who is basically guaranteed alive tomorrow. there's no real reason to not claim unless you're trying a "gotcha" cc...which isn't smart.
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On November 19 2015 06:51 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 06:43 Breshke wrote:On November 19 2015 06:24 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Everyone except Ritoky, Eversince and FecalFeast have entered the thread at this point.
You claim your shot as soon as you can as vig so that mafia can't create confusion later on with claiming the shot.
We can eliminate Ritoky from the list of consideration because he hard town read VE throughout the day even if he dropped a bit due to inactivity.
Eversince hasn't been here and didn't respond during the night which makes her highly unlikely to be the vigilante
FecalFeast is the best candidate left currently. Sorry not sure how I missed this. I don't think the vigi has to claim straight away but its not worth discussing and i can see why you would think that. I do not like that post from Farah at all. This is day 2, not mylo. I might be somewhat new here, but from all the games I've obsed, I can think of a few decent reasons for the vig waiting to claim. I can't see any town motivation personally for trying to openly out the vig or any blue role for that matter. The Eversince comment is a bad one because you don't know for sure if she's reading and just choosing not to post for medical/whatever and may have just slipped a PM. Who knows. The ritoky comment is bad in the event someone tinfoiled (is that the right English word) geript and scum went bluehunting on VE, which would implicate a veteran, someone who might know VE's play to take a gander on him. You cannot eliminate that possibility.
The ritoky comment is good, IMO, because he hard towned both VE and geript iirc. So why would he vig either of them? And his last post saying vigging either was dumb makes it moot since its pretty obvs he isn't the Vig then
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given timing, I think she's trying to draw out a blue folks. This is something I learnt in newbie 13/14 anyhow. Discuss.
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On November 19 2015 07:00 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2015 06:51 NocturneMage wrote:On November 19 2015 06:43 Breshke wrote:On November 19 2015 06:24 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Everyone except Ritoky, Eversince and FecalFeast have entered the thread at this point.
You claim your shot as soon as you can as vig so that mafia can't create confusion later on with claiming the shot.
We can eliminate Ritoky from the list of consideration because he hard town read VE throughout the day even if he dropped a bit due to inactivity.
Eversince hasn't been here and didn't respond during the night which makes her highly unlikely to be the vigilante
FecalFeast is the best candidate left currently. Sorry not sure how I missed this. I don't think the vigi has to claim straight away but its not worth discussing and i can see why you would think that. I do not like that post from Farah at all. This is day 2, not mylo. I might be somewhat new here, but from all the games I've obsed, I can think of a few decent reasons for the vig waiting to claim. I can't see any town motivation personally for trying to openly out the vig or any blue role for that matter. The Eversince comment is a bad one because you don't know for sure if she's reading and just choosing not to post for medical/whatever and may have just slipped a PM. Who knows. The ritoky comment is bad in the event someone tinfoiled (is that the right English word) geript and scum went bluehunting on VE, which would implicate a veteran, someone who might know VE's play to take a gander on him. You cannot eliminate that possibility. The ritoky comment is good, IMO, because he hard towned both VE and geript iirc. So why would he vig either of them? And his last post saying vigging either was dumb makes it moot since its pretty obvs he isn't the Vig then
except it implies she knows VE was the vigi shot and not geript. TMI as fuck.
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wait he hard townread both? interesting, I stand corrected on that then.
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in any case I don't like the blue claim. I smell a rat.
now, see you all in a couple hours.
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On November 19 2015 07:00 NocturneMage wrote:
given timing, I think she's trying to draw out a blue folks. This is something I learnt in newbie 13/14 anyhow. Discuss.
it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. if she's the vigi there's no point to say anything but "i'm the vigi". if she is the doctor she just signed her death warrant. if she's veteran there's a guaranteed roleblocker and in most setups that counters vet protection so she is dead anyway unless we lynch exactly the RB today. if she's mafia being obtuse about it is less encouraging of a cc from blues, but she isn't an auto-lynch atm so claiming this early is.....idk it all just confuses me.
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The fact that she claimed, but didn't bother going through MoosyDoosy's case point by point is really, really suspicious.
I know I'm not the only one who asked for that.
Would FarahBlackwing fakeclaim here as town? I would think not, but am I wrong?
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On November 19 2015 07:02 NocturneMage wrote:
wait he hard townread both? interesting, I stand corrected on that then.
Ya in his post trashing my EoD post he said him geript and you were all town and "everyone know this" implying a hard townread. He also had geript on a town list before then.
But it is interesting that Farrah knows VE was the Vig shot and hard claimed blue. If she were the Vig I don't think she'd be speculating on who the vig is, unless like NM said it was for a gotcha! Cc play. But its too early in the day and risky for it to be a scum play to try and save herself or draw out a blue. Idk I'm confused on this one.
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On November 19 2015 06:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Never killing me
eh she might be blue.....
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On November 19 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
The fact that she claimed, but didn't bother going through MoosyDoosy's case point by point is really, really suspicious.
I know I'm not the only one who asked for that.
Would FarahBlackwing fakeclaim here as town? I would think not, but am I wrong?
she is a new player, they are more prone to get ants in their pants and claim stupidly or too early than to make a fake claim that they know will get them into a screaming match w/ 40+ hours left in the day....unless you're me and fake claim cop your 2nd game ever.
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