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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 18 2015 22:14 GMT
#1061
On November 17 2015 08:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Then your vote where your idea is instead of doing the opposite of what you said you would do.

And not sure what you are referring to with the like Damdred thing and putting my gender in quotation marks.

I really do not care if I am eliminated at this stage.
I can't see this coming from a person who would fakeclaim here as town. That settles that.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 18 2015 22:15 GMT
#1062
On November 19 2015 07:13 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
The fact that she claimed, but didn't bother going through MoosyDoosy's case point by point is really, really suspicious.

I know I'm not the only one who asked for that.

Would FarahBlackwing fakeclaim here as town? I would think not, but am I wrong?


she is a new player, they are more prone to get ants in their pants and claim stupidly or too early than to make a fake claim that they know will get them into a screaming match w/ 40+ hours left in the day....unless you're me and fake claim cop your 2nd game ever.
Wait, what? Story time.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 18 2015 22:21 GMT
#1063
On November 19 2015 07:15 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2015 07:13 ritoky wrote:
On November 19 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
The fact that she claimed, but didn't bother going through MoosyDoosy's case point by point is really, really suspicious.

I know I'm not the only one who asked for that.

Would FarahBlackwing fakeclaim here as town? I would think not, but am I wrong?


she is a new player, they are more prone to get ants in their pants and claim stupidly or too early than to make a fake claim that they know will get them into a screaming match w/ 40+ hours left in the day....unless you're me and fake claim cop your 2nd game ever.
Wait, what? Story time.


i was developing a strategy of fake claiming a red check on 27nb as VT every game to get a reaction from her. which the 2 of the 3 times i did it resulted in both of us being lynched/shot as VT. the 3rd she was mafia and people actually thought i was a cop and were mindfucked when i rescinded and said i just guessed.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 18 2015 22:26 GMT
#1064
i am really scratching my head right now. game is surprisingly hard for a student game. that or my recent trend of being dumpster as town has continued.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 18 2015 22:28 GMT
#1065
:it is interesting the people who jump to the I know ve was shot when most of the thread shared the same sentiment.

I'm Louis btw
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 18 2015 22:29 GMT
#1066
And honestly if someone wants to claim vet against me that would,be great. Even if I'm lynched its 100% a town win going 1:1 with mafia.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 18 2015 22:31 GMT
#1067
FarahBlackwing, why do you care so much about figuring out who the vigilante is?
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 18 2015 22:33 GMT
#1068
Because the correct play is for the vigilante to claim as the day begins to have as much information as possible. The only time a vigilante should not claim is with multiple shots.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 18 2015 22:35 GMT
#1069
On November 19 2015 07:33 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Because the correct play is for the vigilante to claim as the day begins to have as much information as possible. The only time a vigilante should not claim is with multiple shots.
Why does it matter so much to you if the vigilante claims now or not? The vigilante will claim when the time is correct in their own judgement.

Like, imagine that the vigilante claims right now. How does this help you more as opposed to the vigilante claiming later?
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 18 2015 22:38 GMT
#1070
Read what I wrote and apply it. Information is king withholding information when you are a glorified vt now is anti-town especially the leathery out wait the more mafia can mess with town.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 18 2015 22:38 GMT
#1071
On November 19 2015 06:20 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I'm pretty sure fecal is the vig which makes the game pretty easy.

I'm catching up sorry I had a lot of business to take care of today.

I am not the vig
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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 18 2015 22:39 GMT
#1072
Your post was kinda hard to follow in some parts cause you jump around in ritoky's post.


On November 19 2015 06:05 The Shining wrote:
These are half an hr apart. I'm not sure I like ritoky anymore. He mentions Ever not being around, not doing anything and wondering when he can start being a dick to her. And half an hour later he picks apart my admittedly ehhh EoD post but the last line is just. No. I don't want to self meta but I never believe anything strongly d1, d1 is the worst day for me, especially when it starts on a Sunday and I'm limited on time through most of it. But how can you question my scumread on Ever right after bringing up her uselessness and doing nothing and not being here? It doesn't add up.


"I don't want to self meta but I am going to self meta."
ritoky also didn't dislike that you dislike ever, he dislikes that that is the only read you seem confident in, as per his last paragraph.


On November 19 2015 06:05 The Shining wrote:
He also claims Farrah was bad for having regret on the Scott town lynch and claims he tried to get a switch. This is not true. He voted Scott 3 mins before EoD and voted Moosy literally on the hour at EoD yelling OGOD TOWN FEELS. This was WAY too late to get any shenanny done, it looks like he just wanted off the Scott wagon once he realized it was going through.


Did you miss this scott post like 2min b4 deadline:
On November 18 2015 04:58 scott31337 wrote:
I just got back to see the votes starting on me.

When I flip town will you guys lynch Trfel tomorrow? He sure is reminding me of NSM IX I posted - so I'd appreciate you all re-evaluating him.

I'm pretty sure Ritoky, Geript, NM, and disinf are all town.

Make Moosy fucking do something, please.

Moosy/Breshke/Trfel are the lynch list right now, but I have a tingly feeling one of the vets has me/us fooled for now.

This post is what caused ritoky to go like "nooo town feels" and vote MD. If he would do this as mafia or not is of course WIFOM.


On November 18 2015 04:58 scott31337 wrote:
As far as explaining his points vs my posts, he includes himself in the obvious townread pile. Geript flipped VT and I still think NM is towny af. I'm known for being wrong so if I'm wrong on any here its ritoky. And I don't understand how maybe 2 lines each explaining my read on geript, nm, ritoky is over explained. I didn't post an entire town case like he did on VE.

VE also flipped town. It's bull to pick on my VE read there because I wanted VE to be there to talk to while I was there EoD. But he wasn't, which is why I said I wished he was around. So that is mentioning the activity dropoff. And sure it was a giant post but outside of the initial hard townreads, I left spaces in between every read. It's not that hard to find your name if you're actually town and reading.


Fair enough.


On November 18 2015 04:58 scott31337 wrote:
Scott? W.e I lynched him, I lynched town, sorry but I'm not gonna go too much into this. I took a chance, it didn't pay out, I was thinking Moosy could be town, I'm not gonna defend it anymore than that.


Fair enough. Am guilty of the same thing. Problem is that since it seems all the maffay members (-eversince if she is maffay) were on scott and MD. So someone having a super bad excuse on MD or scott has to be maffay.


On November 18 2015 04:58 scott31337 wrote:
Eversince yup because like you said useless and not around. The excuse can only go so far, especially since ritoky himself said he hates excuses. I'm sorry if I'm being a bit of a dick towards ES for that but with a wasted vote, no reads, no idea if she even knows or cares what's going on, it could very well be scum with no motivation becuz of irl stuff.


I agree that eversince could very well be super dangerous for town. But lynching her is a coin flip and we have two other maffay around.


On November 18 2015 04:58 scott31337 wrote:
Town Moosy did this last game. I had reservations. Not gonna re explain this either.


Fair enough.


On November 18 2015 04:58 scott31337 wrote:
I like the Farrah posts he hates. OK? I'm becoming suspicious of ritoky so I actually like that we don't share that read.

Going to side with ritoky on this.


On November 18 2015 04:58 scott31337 wrote:
Scott not trying to solve the game is strange because Scott likes to solve the game. Ya scumlean. FF was lazy af and didn't really do anything last game until d2 or 3. He was town. So ya town lean. Simple eh?

Not able to verify your meta read atm.


On November 18 2015 04:58 scott31337 wrote:
Town Trfel is kinda like me, gets better as the game goes on if he's town. I want to reread him before I give a definite read on him because he posted a lot after my last post but its just as important to see HOW he was going at one of my townreads, not just that he was going at my townread.

Will remember this. Not following up on such things gets one scum read quite fast, or so I am told.


On November 18 2015 04:58 scott31337 wrote:
Scott flipped town. So now I'm more suspicious of disfo. The Switzerland bit is pretty funny tho.

I agree that the Switzerland bit is quite funny.




So, did I forget something?
Oh, yeah, I am supposed to come to a conclusion right? Hah, I kinda forget that part every time.

Why are you trying this hard to defend a post you admitted to being bad? Like being overly defensive gets oneself scumread, or so I am told. I mean I don't get why you dislike ritoky other than having other reads?
The first two points are you missing a post and not getting his point.
For VE he pointed out you were kinda unsure about him. Like dunno, I am used to being unsure about shit all the time. *shrugs*
He also is right with the scott stuff, although I shouldn't judge you for that since I have done very similar stuff.
I agree on MD and Eversince (mostly) but disagree on Farah.
And can't verify your meta reads.

So to me you both are just not agreeing with each other. Don't see why I should be suspicious of ritoky for criticizing your post. On the other hand I am not quite sure what the point of this post is.
If I missed something important or misunderstood, could you highlight that part for me and/or explain it to me like I only had 4hours of sleep and run purely on coffee?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 18 2015 22:40 GMT
#1073
so the vigi is literally ES or someone being dumb....cool
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 18 2015 22:44 GMT
#1074
On November 19 2015 07:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2015 06:20 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I'm pretty sure fecal is the vig which makes the game pretty easy.

I'm catching up sorry I had a lot of business to take care of today.

I am not the vig


can you make me fall in love with you today. i gave you a town pass cuz you courted me and were funny, but you're starting to make your way toward my PoE at a quicker and quicker rate. so plz defecate town rainbows if you're town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 18 2015 22:44 GMT
#1075
ah fuck messed up the quote tags... all the quotes are from the shining post I had to disassemble
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 18 2015 22:45 GMT
#1076
Ugh, I hate being sick, it makes it so hard for me to think T.T

I'm really, really considering lynching FarahBlackwing here.

The only reason for her to claim this early is that she doesn't have enough time to properly defend herself.
On November 19 2015 06:53 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I'll head this off now probably not enough time to fight off a snowball.

Hard claiming blue.
So she's really busy, but she spent time trying to guess who the vigilante is (of all things) instead of responding to the case? Instead of trying to find mafia?
On November 19 2015 07:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Read what I wrote and apply it. Information is king withholding information when you are a glorified vt now is anti-town especially the leathery out wait the more mafia can mess with town.
This is in no way a justification for the time spent.

To me, it almost feels like FarahBlackwing's attempts to find the vigilante were to figure out what the thread influence would look like post-claim, which is useful to know if she's mafia. Especially if she's mafia trying to do something like fakeclaim.

Fecalfeast doesn't have a large amount of thread presence, and imagining for a moment that he became confirmed town by claiming vigilante, I don't think that much would change. Meaning that mafia thread influence would be maximized, encouraging a fakeclaim.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 18 2015 22:45 GMT
#1077
On November 19 2015 07:44 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2015 07:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 19 2015 06:20 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I'm pretty sure fecal is the vig which makes the game pretty easy.

I'm catching up sorry I had a lot of business to take care of today.

I am not the vig


can you make me fall in love with you today. i gave you a town pass cuz you courted me and were funny, but you're starting to make your way toward my PoE at a quicker and quicker rate. so plz defecate town rainbows if you're town.


Since farah is currently an uncced blue, I would very much like this, too.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 18 2015 22:49 GMT
#1078
Never lynch an uncc blue your dumb otherwise.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 18 2015 22:52 GMT
#1079
On November 19 2015 07:49 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Never lynch an uncc blue your dumb otherwise.
Then can you please answer the points that MoosyDoosy brought up?

Can you please explain how it is beneficial to try and figure out who the vigilante is?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 18 2015 22:54 GMT
#1080
On November 19 2015 07:49 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Never lynch an uncc blue your dumb otherwise.


Can I never lynch an uncc blue and still be dumbe? Pretty please?

Also: what do you think of the recent Breshke posts? I have a vague idea, but I'd like you to humor me.
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