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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 18 2015 21:05 GMT
#1001
On November 18 2015 15:19 ritoky wrote:
also when's the statute of limitations on being a dick to ever for not being here/doing anything? i mean i know the situation...


On November 18 2015 15:53 ritoky wrote:
i just really don't like shining this game and i am kinda sad my push on him went nowhere....i think his post before the deadline is particularly dumpster.

Show nested quote +
On November 18 2015 04:59 The Shining wrote:
Rushing this post so people know where my head is at. Geript is townlean for referring to meta notes and looking at play objectively to change his reads in a way I can explain. I might have been pocketed because it bumped me up a notch when he did that but w.e, it is what it is. Ritoky is a question mark but on the town side of null for his acivity and questioning. But he posted a town case on VE and a long null case on disfo, which felt kind of weird to me. But not a good or viable lynch for d1 anyway so yeah. NM is pretty much lock town. Good questioning following an understandable train of thought and referring to posts. Maybe I'm just a sucker for someone who makes their posts easy to read.

I wish VE was here because skimming through his filter, I still have my doubts about him over the early ES/Farrah stuff but some of his posts I cant find mafia motivation for so I want his thoughts on how EoD is shaping up.

I kind of dont wanna lynch Scott just because of past games. Like I don't really like any of his posts, but I've felt that way before because of his activity and seemingly unexplained posts and reads, especially on D1, and he flipped town more than once. Maybe I'm just scared here. But off this game alone, he's on the scum side of null. It doesn't really feel like he's trying to figure out the game, I agree, but I'm not in much position to judge activity wise.

Eversince is not here and still voting Farah. I really don't like it but what can I do when there's a medical excuse involved? And maybe I was nitpicking on her Farrah read, whatever, but I was under the impression a metaread is a read based on how someone played in a past game/games, which is what she did. But I'm not gonna beat a dead horse.

Moosy martyring is horribad and he did in fact do this last game but he isn't voting. That's a modkill risk, anyway. I just hope to god if he is town he actually starts playing if he isn't lynched or modkilled here because if we have to carry that into D2 and I end up in triple lylo again, I'm blaming him.

Farrah feels town, but not as lock town as I had her last game. The last few posts make me feel better about her, even with the switching back and forth on votes. I don't think scum is going to do that unless one is in fact her scum mate but she wants to apparently lynch both so idk.

I honestly don't know what Fecal's done but he was lazy this early last game and ended up helping me figure out the game so idk about him. Null with a slight possibility of lazy town.

Trfel has gotten a lot better since my initial suspicion on him, even though a lot of it recently seems to be centered on Scott.

Disfo's waffliness seems to be off, although I can kind of understand his hesitance on me since he TRd me at first but had nothing to go off on me since I disappeared until now. But he's voting Scott now so idk if it's scum possibly bussing if Scott is scum or if Scott is really gonna flip town D1 again after this.

TLDR I'd lynch Scott, ES, maybe disfo or ff but I'm really iffy on the last 2.

##Vote:Scott31337

Again this was super rushed and I know I have a lot of nulls/town leans but I had a lot to read in a little bit of time so I mostly skimmed filters. I'll be able to do a lot more this night phase and at work tomorrow if I get the chance


- 3 obvious reads geript, me, nm -> town i think pretty much every single person in the game knows this so it's really easy to make and i find them overexplained

- i doubt VE, but maybe town, but want his thoughts, but hid this in a giant post so he will never notice it, but haven't tried to ping him or talked about his activity dropoff. poop read

- "i don't want to lynch scott, but vote scott cuz stuff" could very well be the old classic TMI "he look guys i was hesitating so don't blame me fully" bit.

- hey everybody i am still scum reading the only person in the thread who cannot rebut me. notice me senpai a bit

- moosy is the other wagon and he did anti-town stuff but let me vote the guy i have reservations about.

- the posts he likes about farrah are the ones i hate

- scott not trying to solve the game -> scum lean; ff not trying to solve the game -> town lean; SENSE

- trfel has been going hard on 1 of your 3 town reads....and that's an improvement? this needs sum splaining

- trying to play switzerland on disfo

i mean at the end of that i basically learned that everything read he gave is full over indecision and caveats. like he doesn't believe anything strongly except that ever who is perpetual afk atm is mafia for some reason that no one in the game seems to understand except him. like why does anyone TR this guy?


These are half an hr apart. I'm not sure I like ritoky anymore. He mentions Ever not being around, not doing anything and wondering when he can start being a dick to her. And half an hour later he picks apart my admittedly ehhh EoD post but the last line is just. No. I don't want to self meta but I never believe anything strongly d1, d1 is the worst day for me, especially when it starts on a Sunday and I'm limited on time through most of it. But how can you question my scumread on Ever right after bringing up her uselessness and doing nothing and not being here? It doesn't add up.

He also claims Farrah was bad for having regret on the Scott town lynch and claims he tried to get a switch. This is not true. He voted Scott 3 mins before EoD and voted Moosy literally on the hour at EoD yelling OGOD TOWN FEELS. This was WAY too late to get any shenanny done, it looks like he just wanted off the Scott wagon once he realized it was going through.

As far as explaining his points vs my posts, he includes himself in the obvious townread pile. Geript flipped VT and I still think NM is towny af. I'm known for being wrong so if I'm wrong on any here its ritoky. And I don't understand how maybe 2 lines each explaining my read on geript, nm, ritoky is over explained. I didn't post an entire town case like he did on VE.

VE also flipped town. It's bull to pick on my VE read there because I wanted VE to be there to talk to while I was there EoD. But he wasn't, which is why I said I wished he was around. So that is mentioning the activity dropoff. And sure it was a giant post but outside of the initial hard townreads, I left spaces in between every read. It's not that hard to find your name if you're actually town and reading.

Scott? W.e I lynched him, I lynched town, sorry but I'm not gonna go too much into this. I took a chance, it didn't pay out, I was thinking Moosy could be town, I'm not gonna defend it anymore than that.

Eversince yup because like you said useless and not around. The excuse can only go so far, especially since ritoky himself said he hates excuses. I'm sorry if I'm being a bit of a dick towards ES for that but with a wasted vote, no reads, no idea if she even knows or cares what's going on, it could very well be scum with no motivation becuz of irl stuff.

Town Moosy did this last game. I had reservations. Not gonna re explain this either.

I like the Farrah posts he hates. OK? I'm becoming suspicious of ritoky so I actually like that we don't share that read.

Scott not trying to solve the game is strange because Scott likes to solve the game. Ya scumlean. FF was lazy af and didn't really do anything last game until d2 or 3. He was town. So ya town lean. Simple eh?

Town Trfel is kinda like me, gets better as the game goes on if he's town. I want to reread him before I give a definite read on him because he posted a lot after my last post but its just as important to see HOW he was going at one of my townreads, not just that he was going at my townread.

Scott flipped town. So now I'm more suspicious of disfo. The Switzerland bit is pretty funny tho.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 18 2015 21:07 GMT
#1002
##Vote: FarahBlackwing
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 18 2015 21:08 GMT
#1003
disformation can you explain to me exactly what you mean when you say "waffly"
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 18 2015 21:09 GMT
#1004
On November 19 2015 06:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
##Vote: FarahBlackwing


nope nope
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 18 2015 21:09 GMT
#1005
On November 19 2015 06:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
##Vote: FarahBlackwing

This is absolutely where we should go. Farah has failed to respond to huge chunks of my case and is trying to discredit my case using bm which is common for Mafia. Again. It's really strange for her to claim to try so hard at the beginning of the game and then claim she doesn't care now.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 18 2015 21:10 GMT
#1006
@TheShining, make less huge posts and give me your top Mafia and top town with explanations please.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 18 2015 21:11 GMT
#1007
@FarahBlackwing, you said you townread me for not giving a shit. Now that I'm clearly caring about the game, what's your read on me?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 18 2015 21:12 GMT
#1008
I'm not interested in disformation right now but his explanation was pretty bad which I'll break down for us once we kill Farah.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 18 2015 21:13 GMT
#1009
Never killing me
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 18 2015 21:13 GMT
#1010
@NocturneMage, jesus christ do townie things you're freaking me out. Also, if you agree with my read, help me lynch Farah.

@Trfel, re-evaluate your reads and get back to me. I want you to seriously consider the Farah lynch.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 18 2015 21:13 GMT
#1011
On November 19 2015 05:48 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:
I don't think anyone is. Hell I even wasn't, I rushed through it. And I had a feeling this was another inactive Scott d1 town lynch and I ended up being right but I took a chance which didn't pay out =/ but the other option was Moosy, and his posting since he started playing makes me feel better about him. I just wish he hadn't waited until N1 to do so. I do like that he also took the time to post 2 cases on both Farrah and yourself, though if I'm being honest I haven't fully read his case on you. I was more interested in his Farrah case, since I already had suspicions on you and had her as town. And I'm known for being very wrong early game lol


Kinda had the same problem, which is why I tried to switch to Breskhe, but ended up switching back to scott anyway. So fair enough I guess.^^


Yeah actually because of this post I'm going to filter dive disfo and hopefully find some time to check his past games, too.

Like, I suspected you. I said I still have suspicions of you. Are you normally this nice and agreeable with people that think you're scum? It's a scum trait, IMO, to try to appease thread sentiment and avoid conflict. Why aren't you curious what exactly I'm suspicious about RE: you so you can explain it? And you started hedging your read on me because of my lack of activity and wanting to see reads from me. I just dropped a big post in response to ritoky. I think I've done enough to be read one way or the other so are ya gonna waffle on me again?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 18 2015 21:16 GMT
#1012
On November 19 2015 06:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@FarahBlackwing, you said you townread me for not giving a shit. Now that I'm clearly caring about the game, what's your read on me?


And this is a total misrepresentation of what I said.

but still never killing me.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 18 2015 21:16 GMT
#1013
On November 19 2015 06:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@TheShining, make less huge posts and give me your top Mafia and top town with explanations please.


Are you seriously trying to go from BM martyr d1 to trying to lead town and the lynch d2?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 18 2015 21:17 GMT
#1014
On November 19 2015 06:08 Breshke wrote:
disformation can you explain to me exactly what you mean when you say "waffly"


Actually nevermind on this can you just give a read on Farah or point to me where you do. Last I saw you had her as null. Thanks
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 18 2015 21:18 GMT
#1015
On November 19 2015 06:16 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2015 06:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@TheShining, make less huge posts and give me your top Mafia and top town with explanations please.


Are you seriously trying to go from BM martyr d1 to trying to lead town and the lynch d2?


Moosey is a dirtbag but his posts were nice have you taken a look do you disagree?
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 18 2015 21:18 GMT
#1016
Small thoughts on VE/geript. We definitely have a vigilante here.

There is little reason for Mafia to have killed VE so geript was definitely the shot. I won't delve too much into NK WIFOM right now as I want to pursue my scum read but he was looking into Trfel and Breshke.

I'm actually kind of glad VE died because I wasn't sure how to read him and he really dropped off. That was an okay vigilante action.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 18 2015 21:19 GMT
#1017
On November 19 2015 03:45 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Confirmed Town:
Scott
Farah

I think They Are Town:
Shining
Geript
Moos
NocturneMage

I thought they were town now they are falling
VE
Eversince
Ritoky

Not Sure
Disformation
Breshke
Trfel

Good Chance of Scum
FF

I haven't done much research this game like I did last game, Ritoky could move into the Not sure and so could VE. Ever I hope comes back. And its still forming a bit and the game is rather hard at this juncture.


On November 19 2015 05:06 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Ok,

##vote breshke

claim vigilante


Farah what changed in between these two posts?
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 18 2015 21:20 GMT
#1018
I'm pretty sure fecal is the vig which makes the game pretty easy.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 18 2015 21:20 GMT
#1019
On November 19 2015 06:13 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2015 05:48 disformation wrote:
On November 19 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:
I don't think anyone is. Hell I even wasn't, I rushed through it. And I had a feeling this was another inactive Scott d1 town lynch and I ended up being right but I took a chance which didn't pay out =/ but the other option was Moosy, and his posting since he started playing makes me feel better about him. I just wish he hadn't waited until N1 to do so. I do like that he also took the time to post 2 cases on both Farrah and yourself, though if I'm being honest I haven't fully read his case on you. I was more interested in his Farrah case, since I already had suspicions on you and had her as town. And I'm known for being very wrong early game lol


Kinda had the same problem, which is why I tried to switch to Breskhe, but ended up switching back to scott anyway. So fair enough I guess.^^


Yeah actually because of this post I'm going to filter dive disfo and hopefully find some time to check his past games, too.

Like, I suspected you. I said I still have suspicions of you. Are you normally this nice and agreeable with people that think you're scum? It's a scum trait, IMO, to try to appease thread sentiment and avoid conflict. Why aren't you curious what exactly I'm suspicious about RE: you so you can explain it? And you started hedging your read on me because of my lack of activity and wanting to see reads from me. I just dropped a big post in response to ritoky. I think I've done enough to be read one way or the other so are ya gonna waffle on me again?


Yes, I am nearly always this nice and polite. I got in a few "fights" with boxerfred in NSM10 (who was maffay) and I really dislike dealing with my sweetheart moosydoosy over there. Other than that this is basically how I roll.
Should maybe RP as an angry, cocksure, arrogant bastard the next time I roll town...
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 18 2015 21:20 GMT
#1020
On November 19 2015 06:20 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I'm pretty sure fecal is the vig which makes the game pretty easy.

Explanation or are you going to fuck off again?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
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