EPTOn November 19 2015 15:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
I had a date with a real person and it went really well.
What's up damdy
I had a date with a real person and it went really well.
What's up damdy
na ah
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sicklucker
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A wild sicklucker bb appeared! | ||
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Damdred
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Tgere is unflippwd association as breshke being scum heavily implies trfel is as well. Also its worth thinking about where is the waffle in truffles play? Hard to say he's been really sure about everything all game. I'm hoping he's the big trying to make a play | ||
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If we want to lynch ever we have to do it today or else not at all if she remains afk due to coin flip to end game meh. I really want the big to claim, ve looked really town to meh << | ||
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 Should have gone to bed earlier yesterday. 13 hours of mafia after 4 hours of sleep might not have been the greatest of ideas. At least I now 100% believe the vet claim. So: ritoky, was worried when he fell off, but since he got back I only got town vibes, so he stays town. moosydoosy. Still not a fan of my sweetheart, but still think he is far more likely to flip town than scum. damdy. vet. trfel. in my tinfoil world he is town. him being the vig would make tons of sense to me. that being said, I am still confused by a few of his posts. I have a half finished filter dive on him saved somewhere, will look at that some more later. FF. Like null? I know he is supposed to be lazy as town, but I could easily see him as mafia coasting by at this point. Eversince. I also hope there were no problems with the surgery and stuff, but there aren't that many options left and that could bite town in the ass soon. I also remembered that we are supposed to have at least 5 posts per day/night cycle and get modkilled if we don't, as per the rules in the op. Though hoping for a replacement/modkill is probably not the safest/best way to handle this. Breshke. Okay, I admit the stuff I said yesterday about him parking his vote on MD, might just be because of timezones. Still high chance of flipping scum though, since I haven't seen anything that made my stomach tingly and the points from D1 still stand. The Shining. Still want to see a bunch more from him to decide. Not compelled in either direction atm, but the PoE is getting smaller... So yeah if the vigi is someone of the bottom 4 1/2 ppl in this list I would love for him to claim, since this would greatly improve our chances to hit mafia today. So imo we either deal with Eversince today, as damdy suggested or we lynch one of Breshke/FF. | ||
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NocturneMage
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Compared to Trfel, he seems less towny although I couldn't initially grasp from ritoky as for why he'd lynch Trfel over Breshke aside from him wanting to lynch Farah whose claim was scummy when it was made. I could understand Fecalfeast's vote on him for that reason although I mentioned that Breshke, the same thing mostly applies except the claim analysis. geript tried to get Breshke lynched d1 and now that we know geript is town and considering his type of read and my initial reservation on Breshke (talking around geript/VE), and geripts history of 30 games, I'm going to assume the meta read is more or less accurate or at the very least we know it was an honest thought from him. not to mention scum really fall off late game, and Breshke's last post irrespective of timezone was.... ....16 hours ago.... I'm looking at Breshke's posts from 1009 and onwards. He's saying disformation and farah are both scum. But they are both scumreading each other. Learnt the hard way from newbie 14 that there was some double bussing going on. there's no explaiantion from Breshke as to why he thinks they are on after each other and disformation has since been a bit more towny. If Farah's claim was true, and without a counterclaim, we have to proceed as if it is true, it was a poor decision, but at least Damdred has a strategy/conditions for when/if/how the vig should claim. I understand it. and this go? Breshke's pushes are a LOT weaker than round 1. he's not as invested in either of them. I think what trfel said is valid, let the moderators deal with Eversince and lynch Breshke unless there is a mechanical reason we have to deal with her now. (do we know if mods modkill or replace or does that even matter? no idea how that shit works.) | ||
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On November 19 2015 23:19 NocturneMage wrote: I think if I had to lynch anyone and avoid the policy lynch (which it basically what it is) on Eversince, I would go for Breshke. Compared to Trfel, he seems less towny although I couldn't initially grasp from ritoky as for why he'd lynch Trfel over Breshke aside from him wanting to lynch Farah whose claim was scummy when it was made. I could understand Fecalfeast's vote on him for that reason although I mentioned that Breshke, the same thing mostly applies except the claim analysis. geript tried to get Breshke lynched d1 and now that we know geript is town and considering his type of read and my initial reservation on Breshke (talking around geript/VE), and geripts history of 30 games, I'm going to assume the meta read is more or less accurate or at the very least we know it was an honest thought from him. not to mention scum really fall off late game, and Breshke's last post irrespective of timezone was.... ....16 hours ago.... I'm looking at Breshke's posts from 1009 and onwards. He's saying disformation and farah are both scum. But they are both scumreading each other. Learnt the hard way from newbie 14 that there was some double bussing going on. there's no explaiantion from Breshke as to why he thinks they are on after each other and disformation has since been a bit more towny. If Farah's claim was true, and without a counterclaim, we have to proceed as if it is true, it was a poor decision, but at least Damdred has a strategy/conditions for when/if/how the vig should claim. I understand it. and this go? Breshke's pushes are a LOT weaker than round 1. he's not as invested in either of them. I think what trfel said is valid, let the moderators deal with Eversince and lynch Breshke unless there is a mechanical reason we have to deal with her now. (do we know if mods modkill or replace or does that even matter? no idea how that shit works.) Oh forgot you in my list. You are very much town and I very much agree with this. Also, if we believe in geripts meta read on Breshke. Shouldn't we also agree on his meta read on The Shining? Which would make The Shining town. Thus, if Trfel is indeed vigi or VT the scum team is: FF, Breshke, Eversince. Case closed. Let's get drunk. | ||
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NocturneMage
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On October 21 2015 18:06 Tictock wrote: Activity: You must make at least Five posts in this thread per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. Roughly speaking, this equates to a bare minimum of one post per 10 hours. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled or replaced. Replacements This game uses replacements. Players who are inactive may be replaced by other players. well this isn't terribly clear. 10 players left, 7 of which are town 7:3 - what we have now 6:3 - mislynch 5:3 - possible modkill (???) 4:3 - nightkill Well fuck this. I'd like to lynch Breshke but we might actually have to go for the policy lynch if I'm counting this right. There is one replacement though, but I can't predict what the mods are going to do based on the rules so if someone more experienced can suggest the way to go here or what they normally do that might help tremendously. | ||
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NocturneMage
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as for geript, to be honest....he was town but he could be wrong on people. the reason I suggested his read on Breshke was good is because Breshke's behaviour currently supports what he stated day 1 and it matched my initial concern on Breshke (avoiding the important issues). | ||
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On November 19 2015 23:31 NocturneMage wrote: I would avoid a full PoE team when we are one mislynch outside of mylo with a possible modkill. unless I am strategically off target, either go for the highest percentage of scum or go for the policy lynch. as for geript, to be honest....he was town but he could be wrong on people. the reason I suggested his read on Breshke was good is because Breshke's behaviour currently supports what he stated day 1 and it matched my initial concern on Breshke (avoiding the important issues). Yes. I agree. Breshke and Eversince are my prefered lynches for today. (note taht I am currently voting Breshke) I could be wrong on The Shining and Trfel, but the situation I outlned above is what currently makes the most sense to me. Which doesn't mean I will be unwilling to re-evaluate the situation depending on the flips. I can also totally see giving The Shining one more day to do more towny stuff. Kinda the same for FF actually, though I currently like The Shining more. For the Eversince thing: I'd like for Damdred and ritoky to explain to us newbs, what they think is best in this situation in great detail. I think that would be helpful.  | ||
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Also have to do a bit of IRL stuff, will be bach later. | ||
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On November 19 2015 22:44 Damdred wrote: Basically thinking would scum trfel get butt hurt the game really didn't listen to him about Scott and partially throw a small tantrum to get people on Scott? Tgere is unflippwd association as breshke being scum heavily implies trfel is as well. Also its worth thinking about where is the waffle in truffles play? Hard to say he's been really sure about everything all game. I'm hoping he's the big trying to make a play Trfel could be mafia based on the so-called WIFOM/NK analysis that rsoultin discussed in newbie 14. But how is there an associative read between Breshke and Trfel? or do you simply mean the fact Trfel's lynching Scott saved Breshke? your first sentence implies that Trfel was being too emotional to be scum, but if there is another post after the lynch that indicates Trfel by association, where is it? nothing has jumped out at me other than the push on Scott, but geript implied (by meta, which again I disregarded because well....it was meta) that Trfel should have known better - he used his town meta to indicate this as Scott's scum meta to get him lynched. Are you experienced enough to make this call? the post in question was post 918 and 925 On November 18 2015 14:39 geript wrote: All association? No. I quite frankly referred to this post + Show Spoiler + On November 17 2015 14:42 scott31337 wrote: I apologize for my last post - I got enough energy to notepad. I'm town. Weak. This is the Breshke I know I thought from his first post - He's thinking about the game and townie thoughts. arr.. And my virtual townleans have not said anything (Geript, etc.) So I think I'm fooled at least by one. I'm going to sleep - at Page 30 of Ritoky's wall of text. I've had a lot to drink and calling it a night. I'll continue from there. Trfel's been trying but like I said - could be his scummy cases he's done it before Fuck Moosy and his lazy ass town game We will not have it. Geript fell the fuck off once he got townleaned NM has been playing his towngame I'll be up in about 12 hours and bitch that I'm not online and posting. Well suck it I was busy helping out my cousin that I just found out had MS. What the fuck is to respond to here that wasn't already in my summary. I noted that the above quoted scott post was decent which negates the critical thinking thing. Scott's activity being awful is by no means alignment indicative. Trfel's jumping on him for 1 post that's lacked critical thinking. On that run Trfel should absolutely be lynched because Trfel hasn't had 1 good post that requires actual thought. Trfel is literally just picking at minor things that don't matter and aren't alignment indicative. Scott not taking a stance on Trfel is literally irrelevant. Trfel's "case" on scott isn't a case. It's not even a set of good points against scott. Trfel should 100% be shot tonight period. On November 18 2015 14:46 geript wrote: My points on Breshke covered this entirely. Breshke should not be read on his reads. It's about how he interacts with and acts in response to what's happening in the thread. Him blandly asking questions that go no where and lead to no conclusions is part of his scum meta. So what Trfel has pointed towards is specifically his scum meta and Trfel is trying to paint him town for it. Critical questions to me (1) did Trfel misrepresent Scott's meta? he has 18 games played in the database. how many of these does he have with Scott? might be time to do some digging and see whether this was below expectations. I have never played with Trfel, and only 2 games with Scott but I can try and take an educated guess if I can count. (2) did Trfel misrepresent Breshke's meta? honestly I read Breshke's filter and came to the opposite conclusion but like I said I don't know these people. I really need some veteran input on this. | ||
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NocturneMage
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"nothing has jumped out at me other than the push on Scott, but geript implied (by meta, which again I disregarded because well....it was meta) that Trfel should have known better - he used his town meta to indicate this as Scott's scum meta to get him lynched." should be instead: "nothing has jumped out at me other than the push on Scott, but geript implied (by meta, which again I disregarded because well....it was meta) that Trfel should have known better - he used traits for scott that were not alignment indicative to indicate this as Scott's scum meta to get him lynched." | ||
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NocturneMage
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Placing it here for now. Database digging and then I have to go in for a research seminar at 3pm. | ||
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NocturneMage
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Trfel - 18 games, 3 as scum, 1 as third party Scott - 14 games, 3 as scum next step - go to the games where they both overlapped and scott was town Scott was town in 11 of the 14 games he played on TL. Trfel was present in the following games. (1) Newbie 11 - Trfel was mafia that game (2) Gaiden - Trfel was town (3) Battle of the Drams - Trfel was town Also Scott was in Completely normal generic mafia which Trfel observed. so he has three games' worth of meta knowledge and possibly more on scott where scott was town. is this information enough to say that he should have known better? I have to stop here but the question might lie in reads he made outside this game. particularly in Gaiden and Battle of the Drams where Trfel was town. but three games? gut reaction says yes he should have known better. can anyone discuss? | ||
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