EPTritoky when you are around could you please explain why? Thanks.
Also: does that mean Trfel is your prefered lynch for today?
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ritoky when you are around could you please explain why? Thanks. Also: does that mean Trfel is your prefered lynch for today? | ||
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On November 19 2015 23:05 disformation wrote: Hi Damdred, Hi sicklucker  Should have gone to bed earlier yesterday. 13 hours of mafia after 4 hours of sleep might not have been the greatest of ideas. At least I now 100% believe the vet claim. So: ritoky, was worried when he fell off, but since he got back I only got town vibes, so he stays town. moosydoosy. Still not a fan of my sweetheart, but still think he is far more likely to flip town than scum. damdy. vet. trfel. in my tinfoil world he is town. him being the vig would make tons of sense to me. that being said, I am still confused by a few of his posts. I have a half finished filter dive on him saved somewhere, will look at that some more later. FF. Like null? I know he is supposed to be lazy as town, but I could easily see him as mafia coasting by at this point. Eversince. I also hope there were no problems with the surgery and stuff, but there aren't that many options left and that could bite town in the ass soon. I also remembered that we are supposed to have at least 5 posts per day/night cycle and get modkilled if we don't, as per the rules in the op. Though hoping for a replacement/modkill is probably not the safest/best way to handle this. Breshke. Okay, I admit the stuff I said yesterday about him parking his vote on MD, might just be because of timezones. Still high chance of flipping scum though, since I haven't seen anything that made my stomach tingly and the points from D1 still stand. The Shining. Still want to see a bunch more from him to decide. Not compelled in either direction atm, but the PoE is getting smaller... So yeah if the vigi is someone of the bottom 4 1/2 ppl in this list I would love for him to claim, since this would greatly improve our chances to hit mafia today. So imo we either deal with Eversince today, as damdy suggested or we lynch one of Breshke/FF. To expand and update on my current read list: Town damdy uncc Vet. Came into the game and started to solve it right away. Also mentioned the Breshke/Trfel association before it was cool. Town. NocturneMage Look at his scum game in NSM13. Interactions: no. solving the case: no. activity: no. This game? Interactions: yes. solving the case: trying to, so yes. activity: very. Town. MoosyDoosy I don't like his tone, I don't like his methods, I didn't like his D1 tantrum, but at least he is annoying/pushing the ppl he thinks are scum and is trying to solve the game. So that is a grudgingly given townread. ritoky Was worried at one point, cause he kinda fell off the thread, but when he came back I kinda immediately felt the town vibe. It is kinda hard to describe and partially tone based, but it is how he is interacting with ppl and how he kept his cool during the Farah claiming situation D2 and tried to find the best play for town. Willing to give another day to impress me FF Did a filter dive on him and didn't found it to be as horrible as I previously thought. Despite yoloing his vote on scott he expressed his dislike of scott multiple times before. Also a few interactions and I guess he is a more conversational player. Problem is he is so lazy he could just as well be a lurky maffay. So far he has also fallen off a bit in activity on D2, but has a vote on Trfel with a decent explanation. Not loving, not hating it, but he kinda is on the lower end of my list and comes up in my PoE. So I would like him to do stuff in the near future.Scum lean. The Shining Had some decent interactions with him D2. damdy and geript have a town meta read on him. Would like him to do a bit more now, since he hasn't played MO/TUE and therefore not much posts, but I like him more than FF. Town lean. Bananaboat Eversince Last post was like 4 days ago. I hope she is well but this state does not help me figure out the game. disformation I am quite waffly about this one. Is he trying to solve this game or is he trying to smother the thread in huge, but useless wall posts? No clue. I am also subtracting a half townie brownie from everyone else for not coming up with the later read. Trfel Currently conflicted here. Wrong/Frustrated town or not? This is probably a big thing to figure out for town as a whole. Scum Breshke geript posts a meta-read on him saying he is mafia. Farah and me look into it and find that it appears as if he was interacting with his scum reads, but never really changes his stance. geript is dead and Breshke is currently scum reading farah and me. Incidentally the three ppl who where voting for him D1. I know I am a He also dismisses Farahs reasons for voting him as a rehash of geript's meta read on him. Well, since Breshke's filter has basically nothing but a bunch of questions leading nowhere, there is not much else to talk about? Also if you remember Farah's reason to vote for him D1, you can see that is was not purely based on geripts meta read. + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 02:50 FarahBlackwing wrote: Actually I have rethought my position on breshke. ##Vote Breshke There were two or so moments when something struck me as odd reading the filter, both were interactions between breshke and his supposed scum reads in FF (who he said he would lynch) and then moos. In both situations previously says he scum reads them but asks them questions and has no follow up on those questions and even if the person retorts or responds in a town sort of way he just puts them back in the ignore pile. No real explanation of the progress over eliminating FF (who was breshkes scum read earlier but said his filter wasn't that bad earlier than that) eliminating VE and some of the others. Just settling on the target of moos. Yes, geript mentions that in his meta read, but asking questions without following up on them or doing something with them is a scum tell. You don't need meta for that. So I am very happy with my vote on Breshke. For reference mostly talking about this post, since there is not much else: + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 14:37 Breshke wrote: Moosey i don't get why you don't just play like this from the start, like I really like that post it makes you look so fucking townie and that's shit because now from my POV all three wagons mine, moosey and scott were all town. Shining as well but that wasn't really a wagon and he has dropped off even if it was expected. At the moment I think there is scum in the people who attempted to sheep geripts case on me. This is weak as fuck. I don't recall any times that I didn't follow up on a moosey question and fairly sure the only time I didn't follow up with FF was because he was when I asked him to give a scott read but at the time he was filter diving someone else and when he eventually did I was already gone and FF isn't exactly around that often. Also i didn't settle on moosey I had been saying he was scum and the fake anger from him (which he ahs confirmed as being fake) DID remind me from the previous game where he was scum. This is just geripts meta case but written in a different way and passed off as her own. It is over explained and it could have jsut been a "yeah geript is right' but Farah felt the need to over justify this read. There is also a stage where Farah talks about using the PR on moosey to deal with him which i had explained was a terrible idea in my filter which she had apprently just analysed yet failed to take into account when making that comment. I'm running out of time and also have opinions on disformation and agree with a lot of mooseys last post. Also stuff about Geripts meta read but I need to go to work again soon. Basically I'm not sure if geripts meta read is shit or if my play has just been crap because of exams and working late shifts ruining my ability to wake up early when everyone is around because geripts read on me sounds like he is calling me shit town I.E not doing anything. I don't think he is mafia. Geript how confident in your meta read on meare you really when I have 2/20 mafia games in the database. All you have to base your shit on is town games. | ||
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On November 20 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote: Ok since nobody is claiming a shot and allowing town to parse the data ever since has to be the vigilante since I don't think any of you guys could be that bad. Like really if the big isn't ever you are hurting town so much right now. And until we learn who the big shot we can't use either geripts or be read on who they think is scum or not. Anyway just got home so going to do some reading. I was vigilante and shot VE because I wanted to see how Trfel's read on him turned out and also because I have no idea how to read him. Which leaves me with the situation where I want disformation dead and a situation where I want Trfel dead. | ||
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Vote: Trfel Sorry that I can't be around but this is where I'm parking a vote. I strongly want a vote on Trfel/Breshke. Other people are likely scum but resolving this first and then killing the obv scum in mylo will put us in a good place. | ||
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On November 19 2015 08:00 The Shining wrote: Disfo you get half a town point just for being the only one to mention that post tbh. I'm not gonna quote it and stretch the thread out but this is in response to 1072. First point. Right I dont want to but I did anyway cuz I felt it necessary to point out. Yolo. And considering ES was one of the only players I had directly interacted with, it would make sense that she was the read I was most sure of. No I didn't miss that post and I won't go into wifom territory on whether scum ritoky would do that or not. The point I was trying to make is that he himself claimed he tried to get a switch. But he can't really say he did that when that Scott post and his switch were all at the last possible minute. It just looked like he said that to make himself look good. Skipping the fair enough. I agree with you there. But if Moosy is in fact town, then I'm more inclined to think the early voters that never moved are more likely scum than the vote switchers. Like if town is getting lynched regardless, scum has no motivation to move back and forth a bunch of times. So you think Farrah is scum then? I believe someone asked you before to show when and where your null read on her became scum. Can you do that now? What do you think of her blue claim? Yeah I'll get around to Trfel soon. I dislike ritoky for seeing what I see in ES then scumming me and asking why anyone TRs me for it. And misrepresenting himself as someone who tried to get ppl off Scott when there wasn't enough time for that to even happen. And I was finding him suspicious enough to revisit my townread on him. I'm not saying he's a full blown scumread but I do have question marks now. not sure if above is fully true, trying to grasp wagons and thread sentiment is hard...tried to map timing of votes to the tracker below.... to note assuming all claims are true: On November 18 2015 05:00 Tictock wrote: Day 1 Final Votecount scott31337 (6): MoosyDoosy (4): FarahBlackwing (1): Eversince, Fecalfeast (1): VisceraEyes Breshke (1): geript, The Shining (0): Trfel (0): VisceraEyes (0): mooseydoosey (0): disinformation (0): copied from tracker if we can ferret thread sentiment votes. not sure though. Day 1 FarahBlackwing voted for shining <------start disformation voted for scott31337 Eversince voted for Farahblackwing VisceraEyes voted for Farahblackwing FarahBlackwing unvoted FarahBlackwing unvoted MoosyDoosy voted for FarahBlackwing VisceraEyes unvoted VisceraEyes voted for Fecalfeast NocturneMage voted for MoosyDoosy scott31337 voted for Trfel disformation unvoted disformation voted for MoosyDoosy NocturneMage voted for VisceraEyes NocturneMage unvoted NocturneMage voted for VisceraEyes MoosyDoosy unvoted MoosyDoosy voted for MoosyDoosy <---------effective start of Moosy wagon, 21 hours left Trfel voted for MoosyDoosy <-------------- 20 hours, 45 min Fecalfeast voted for mooseydoosey Fecalfeast unvoted Trfel unvoted Fecalfeast voted for mooseydoosey <------------------ 19 hours 10 minutes NocturneMage unvoted scott31337 unvoted ritoky voted for the shining <----------- 8 hours 30 minutes disformation unvoted disformation voted for The Shining <----------8 hours before deadline - I told him this was useless disformation unvoted disformation voted for MoosyDoosy <---------------- 7 hours prior to deadline NocturneMage voted for MoosyDoosy Breshke voted for MoosyDoosy <----------------- 5 hours 45 minutes prior to deadline - FIRST AND ONLY vote Trfel voted for scott31337 <---------------------5 hours prior to deadline FarahBlackwing voted for Scott31337 FarahBlackwing unvoted FarahBlackwing voted for disinformation scott31337 voted for Moosydoosy geript voted for Breshke <----- 2 hours 30 minutes FarahBlackwing unvoted FarahBlackwing voted for Breshke <--------- 2 hours 10 minutes disformation unvoted disformation voted for Breshke <------------ 1 hour 30 minutes FarahBlackwing unvoted FarahBlackwing voted for Scott31337 <------------ 12 minutes left Fecalfeast voted for scott31337 <------------ 10 minutes left disformation unvoted disformation voted for Scott31337 <--------7 minutes left ritoky unvoted ritoky voted for scott31337 <------------1 minute left The Shining voted for Scott31337 NocturneMage voted for scott31337 <-------deadline, my vote was right on at 2000 ritoky unvoted ritoky voted for moosydoosy Trfel's vote on scott31337 was five hours prior to lynch. Shining's reads are back and forth on ritoky but I'm hoping there's some pickup today because I'm not terribly sure where he stands on people now. Last page of filter not saying much. Did Breshke have an actual "good" reason to vote Moosy? curious. the vote counter map....well we know Breshke voted early but previously discussed timezones could have fucked him over, but reason for Moosy at the time was.....? Fecalfeast COULD be problematic....18 hours between first and final vote. ritoky voted shining early but read was supported and went to bed, probably not mafia based on this. Eversince isolated vote....no idea. I'd say of all these votes, Trfel, Fecalfeast and Breshke look the worst based on timing of votes, reads I'd have to double check the latter two but.... Breshke's timing of the vote is NAI based on timezone but it was his first and only vote (the fact he didn't vote ve as he was pushing) but I don't recall the reason to take out moosy as being that great. | ||
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On November 17 2015 23:26 Breshke wrote: Ritoky I don't think ignoring moosey and hoping for a PR to resolve it is the way to go. purely because in every setup with the cop if they get a green on moosey its a waste because it doesn't mean shit until a GF flips. I really don;t think shining will flip scum if he is lynched and think moosey is a far fa better lynch. On November 17 2015 23:28 Breshke wrote: ##Vote MoosyDoosy Does anyone have anything to ask me i got held up at work and its 1am here and will probably go to sleep soon and will most likely not be here until after deadline. On November 17 2015 23:30 Breshke wrote: Also as NM said go look at mooseys fake rage in that game i think it is similar to here from memory. It is just like misplaced anger at absolutly nothing that sidetracks the game and gives him an excuse to post but not do anything. | ||
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long gap between the Fecalfast votes. Breshke also voted when the votes were pretty piled up on MoosyDoosy, that also looks pretty bad for him I think. | ||
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Breshke (2): Damdred (1): MoosyDoosy, Trfel (1): Fecalfeast Not Voting (5): Breshke, ritoky, The Shining, Trfel, Eversince, Damdred It looks like Breshke will be facing the court-martial for treason in leading the vote with 2 votes! Voting is Manditory! Do not forget to vote! Vote tracker may be found here. | ||
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On November 20 2015 06:47 NocturneMage wrote: first quote in post 1228 disformation is pretty hilarious if scum Breshke knows there isn't a cop. Yep. And the third one is parroting you... Moosy forgot to put in the ##. | ||
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Another night at work in an hour so I'm out. Will lie in after that, some time in the afternoon I think and then I will be around for about 2 hours through end of cycle. | ||
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On November 20 2015 06:59 ritoky wrote: i'm awake | ||
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That was an obvious joke. ritoky can you explain why you want to lynch trfel? FF thoughts on Breshke? | ||
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Why did you shoot VE over your hard scum read in Farah during n1? | ||
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ritoky
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there once was a game where ritoky was mafia. on day 3 every single person in the game read him as mafia. he had to work and do irl things for the first 24 hours of the day phase. upon returning he realized that there was no way to play himself out of this. as a result, ritoky and mafia team devised a plan to fake afk and then ninja vote with 3 seconds left. all of town played around the mod action that ritoky would be modkilled or subbed. ritoky ninja votes, claiming scum, and focing the game to lylo. town proceeds to lose. vivax never forgives ritoky. i have other examples, but if your plan to resolve ever involves mod action, you're just wrong. | ||
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##vote breshke I think that is a decent place for a vote atm need to look at the votes a bit more | ||
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