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Damdred
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ritoky
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On November 20 2015 05:34 MoosyDoosy wrote: I was vigilante and shot VE because I wanted to see how Trfel's read on him turned out and also because I have no idea how to read him. Which leaves me with the situation where I want disformation dead and a situation where I want Trfel dead. hard claim? | ||
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Damdred
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He has two hard scum reads he cases but doesn't shoot any and as far as I can tell piles up on trfel instead of looking at disformation during this phase. | ||
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ritoky
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On November 20 2015 07:03 disformation wrote: ritoky can you explain why you want to lynch trfel? 2 reasons primarily: 1) The following sentence is probably the most awkward/scummy sentence in the entire thread. On November 18 2015 04:21 Trfel wrote: Wait, what the heck? This push onto Breshke is so mafia-motivated. I don't trust geript at all here. Look at scott31337's townread of geript. He just says that geript is a top town. Notice that he repeatedly says "Trfel could be scum or he could be town" in response to me solving the game and pushing my ideas. He never describes any difference between me and geript, just uses the fact that I had one good game as scum to avoid townreading me. But geript is better than me at mafia, by far, and scott31337 knows this. It's impossible for him not to know that geript is extremely skilled as mafia. So now geript comes up with this push out of nowhere to prevent scott31337 from being lynched? I don't like this one bit. 2) Trfel procedurally understands the game enough to not push relentlessly on an uncc'd blue. There's a difference between "I scum read this person for a couple posts to make sure they hold their claim" and what he was doing. He was legitimately applying pressure. I had begun to consider the tinfoil world where he might be doctor, but damdred enters the game maintains the claim, and he backs off. So it wasn't cc based, it wasn't good play, so it was probably just mafia. Reasons why I greatly prefer trfel to breshke: 1) I think trfel has done mafia things, I don't think breshke has done much of anything. Breshke is in the pile of ff and ever of not doing anything to significantly impact the game and 1 or 2 of them are probably mafia. 2) 1 of the primary reasons for people pushing breshke (geript's isolated questions and blah blah read) was just factually false. 3) I don't think trfel and breshke are together and I think trfel is mafia. I say this primarily because of setup. It is a set-up with only a 50% chance of having investigative power and a guaranteed GF. This means that distancing and busing are more optimal than hard defense and aligning; and trfel has been REALLY defending breshke (like since p1 of his filter defending) pretty much all game. I think both trfel and breshke are good enough players to recognize that about the setup and I sincerely doubt that trfel hard defends his partner so early. Probably a case of mafia trying to pocket town. imo lynch pool right now should be something like: trfel - reasons above ever - already said why ff - hasn't shit town rainbow yet, disengaged shining - same as before + extra dropoff + not scum hunting. | ||
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Damdred
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ritoky
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MoosyDoosy
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On November 20 2015 07:05 Damdred wrote: Wait wait moosey nobody ask him this until he answers. Why did you shoot VE over your hard scum read in Farah during n1? I was confident that Farah was scum and that I would secure her lynch during D2. Which would have been the case had she not acted scummy as fuck because she was blue sigh. It was better for me to kill someone I was unsure of how to read and to get a check on Trfel. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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##Vote: Trfel Sorry bout that. Other game sites vote without the ##. | ||
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ritoky
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On November 20 2015 07:37 MoosyDoosy wrote: I was confident that Farah was scum and that I would secure her lynch during D2. Which would have been the case had she not acted scummy as fuck because she was blue sigh. It was better for me to kill someone I was unsure of how to read and to get a check on Trfel. Why wait 24 hours to claim? | ||
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Damdred
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And that's bad ritoky eliminating someone for that lol | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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The hero side of me wanted Mafia to claim and for me to counter claim. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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On November 20 2015 07:39 Damdred wrote: Its not a check on trfel though, plus disformation was your other scum read why not him? And that's bad ritoky eliminating someone for that lol I still do think disformation is scum. If you read my post with the claim I said other people were "obviously scummy". My plan is to kill Breshke/Trfel in order to check a suspicion rather than be forced into that position in mylo. Then I'm going to kill disformation in mylo which puts us in a good position to figure out the other two Mafia. If you check my filter, I did suggest a team of Breshke/Trfel/disformation which is why I said "wauw wtf" in response to your post saying Breshke and Trfel are linked. But on that note, I have a question for you. What links Breshke and Trfel together in your mind? | ||
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ritoky
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MoosyDoosy
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On November 20 2015 07:39 MoosyDoosy wrote: The hero side of me wanted Mafia to claim and for me to counter claim. I only claim now because I don't want people to think Trfel was the vig that shot VE and so that it's confirmed for people that VE was the vig shot and that geript was the Mafia kill. Which I hinted at in my "NK analysis" after EoN1 as well. | ||
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Damdred
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Plus a few good points against breshke have already been brought up. Anyway if trfel is scum ots probable breshke is, however if breshke is scum its not lock trfel is roughly. Which is bad reasoning | ||
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ritoky
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On November 20 2015 07:39 MoosyDoosy wrote: The hero side of me wanted Mafia to claim and for me to counter claim. no point in lecturing on why this is a selfish and sub-optimal play...it was. | ||
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Damdred
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MoosyDoosy
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On November 20 2015 07:45 Damdred wrote: Its how eod went with the pulling so hard to discredit geript+get on a town. From what I've read misrepresented etc. Plus a few good points against breshke have already been brought up. Anyway if trfel is scum ots probable breshke is, however if breshke is scum its not lock trfel is roughly. Which is bad reasoning Um...I meant what makes Trfel scum with Breshke. Like posts that made you think that or their interactions. On November 20 2015 07:45 ritoky wrote: no point in lecturing on why this is a selfish and sub-optimal play...it was. My play has never been about what's optimal. It's about what I want and what's most flashy if you haven't noticed. xd | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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On November 20 2015 07:46 Damdred wrote: I think breshke is the best lynch today however, geripts top scum read though he thought trfel was as well. xd Yes which is why I've been saying we lynch between these two. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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