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okay here's my problem
like, i'm down to moosy and trfel
and moosy/gb/rels are almost never ever going to be scum with cool...sicklucker seems rather unlikely as well given even though he didn't push as much on cool as the other three, the only one left is truffle and he did push hard on him
basically, to believe in a cool = mafia world, you have to believe that he's being bussed since d1 @.@ or that his two scummates for whatever reason decided to attack each other in the middle of the day phase
it's just not very likely, is it?
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lol and then asked me later about my sl read again for that matter xP
eh disregard the above post. without cool isn't really any different
@.@ hard game is hard
mafiosos were probably bussing one another or at least throwing scum at each other d1 tch lol ><
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just gonna ignore possible groupings and focus on individuals again. probably shouldn't have departed from that to begin with\
bueno
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nvm lol
trfel probably isn't scum...part of my problem was he seemed to drop his push on me after i explained my gb read for the umpteenth time, and i thought i'd already explained that exact thing to him but it was to someone else @.@
i mean, i still find it odd that he ends up falling asleep in the middle of the afternoon and i don't get why he needs someone to be here to read filters but i don't think it means as much as i originally thought it did
disregard
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Amazing Reads of (not so amazing cause some weird shit is going on @.@)
Strong Town
Damdred - tone, reaction to scott's claim matches up with having a role, plus i'm just the ian-whisperer so 
LightningStrike - that outburst too real
Prob Town
Rayn - the probing into everything is classic rayn, and he's at least being cooperative with those he's not tunneling so there's that lol ><
Shining - just everything in his filter is super pointed and follows a clear train of thought, plus the occasional emotional stuff
Trfel - yeah, looking into everything and pushing things, the self-deprecation, all of it's pretty free-flowing, just don't be lazy please or i'll have to beat you with a wet noodle for irritating me
GlowingBear - despite the early focus on just truffle and damdy he did eventually branch out, plus EoD plus some of the things he's said this day phase look pretty townie to me...even if he were going to not lynch scott as scum i don't see him being that vocal about it honestly
Eh...townlean-nullish-i'm an indecisive dullard
sicklucker - i still feel that the freeflow is pretty townie? the problem is i'm not terribly good at reading him and there are bad associative reasons that make me not want to put him higher...lack of reading comprehension is not exactly uncommon for sicklucker, it's true, but there's also the matter of saying he actually read my filter yet saw no reads when i've posted lists multiple times. even he can't have that much trouble reading my posts to miss them. so eh
scumlean
MD - i still maintain that his segways during the day phase without really giving reads on GB, trfel and myself were pretty ridiculous. i guess i could see town doing this, cause vivax has a habit of it, but it's just really removed from the goings on of the thread while everyone else is scrabbling, and he's not commenting on the main wagons but sitting off to the side with a thumb up his ass. then of course demanding credit for cool pre-flip doesn't sit well, either. but his reasons for the scumread at least aren't horrible
scummy
rels - while i like that he seemed to evaluate me just fine and with a particular neutrality, i have a very big problem with his reason for scumreading cool, not to mention his pissing off and placing his vote on a random player not being voted and not returning until much later. his original reasons weren't bad, but now he's focused on this horrible he's not really a newbie thing, he's actually a smurf cause of what he said about gb not reading the thread? cool never said that. moreover the "knowing" gb thing is bad as well, given cool's explanation was fine. rels could not believe it, but someone as intelligent as he is i would think would be pushing cool for much more relevant reasons (and they do exist)
cool - much as i'd love to say that i'm obvious town to anyone with a brain, i don't really think i was given the empirical evidence. the TMI accusation is strong. that said, i'm sensitive to this particular accusation because people like to throw that at me when i'm town, assuming i can't get a better read off someone than they can without being mafia. but the "suspicion" on scott without ever one bringing it up, and after even townreading j roc (by association, but still, you never expressed any doubts that he could be scum) just doesn't match up. neither does your renewed rayn is lying! shit after you already said you thought he's town
so yeah i'm aware that scum in the bottom four is a bit counterintuitive but whatever. the reads are largely independent of one another
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-rolls around the thread-
well i'll be around for a bit longer but i think i have this place to myself lol ><
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On October 03 2015 13:11 sicklucker wrote:
that was a 180
yeah that's kinda what happens when you reread the entire game xP
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-yawns-
morning lol ><
@rayn...rels did this thing he did, where he talks about cool for half-decent reasons d1 but mostly focuses on truffle's reads, then kinda afks his vote on cool. and you're wrong that he and damdred have the same read. yes, some aspects are similar, but the gb comment in particular about reading the thread simply doesn't exist. additionally, of all the things to read cool scum for it's the most ridiculous?
i've got plenty of reasons to townread damdy independent of his "cool isn't new" assertion. it's not like i said damdy is town for pushing that and rels isn't
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On October 03 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 19:35 rsoultin wrote:
-yawns-
morning lol ><
@rayn...rels did this thing he did, where he talks about cool for half-decent reasons d1 but mostly focuses on truffle's reads, then kinda afks his vote on cool. and you're wrong that he and damdred have the same read. yes, some aspects are similar, but the gb comment in particular about reading the thread simply doesn't exist. additionally, of all the things to read cool scum for it's the most ridiculous?
i've got plenty of reasons to townread damdy independent of his "cool isn't new" assertion. it's not like i said damdy is town for pushing that and rels isn't No you didn't say that but if a "sure townie" (Damdred) can make that sort of read why is that a scumtell for Rels? Like you just said "a townie can do this" and then you accuse someone of being mafia because they did it. And it's pretty similar, given the times those posts are made and at what state the game was back then.
i'll dig up the exact quote when i can see straight lol
but i think this is, again, one of those times where you're hugely detail-oriented and i'm more big picture? like you're not even paying attention to the fact that i'm kind of scumreading moosy and rels for similar things, which is namely that while they appeared to not be interested in actually lynching into the main wagons being discussed at the time (trfel, myself, gb) they didn't really push their cool read at all
both kind of afk'd onto him d1...md sits off on the side and twiddles his thumbs (this is my way of describing not contributing to the conversation on the other three wagons or really giving reads on them, just pushing random other lynches) and when he arrives at cool is doing tmi he buggers off for more than just the one hour he claims to so ye
i really dislike the poor reasoning behind rels' voting more and part of that is that he talks about not auto-lynching but he's one of the first onto cool and i'm not really seeing a huge push from him to look into other things? give me a second to dig up the specific quote that's very meh to me
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On October 03 2015 02:24 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 16:47 coolTLname wrote:
So i noticed mafia can hold their KP, this makes claiming Roleblock and framing someone possible, as well as fake vet claims. Anyway i propose anyone who claims a blue role to be lynched automatically, if there is no kill , better to leave it in the dark?
Can medics heal themselves? OK this question has to come from a newbie. The medic one. But coolTLname has slipped two times he knew the people playing: Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 05:57 coolTLname wrote:
being accused by you and GB is hardly being under suspicion Implying there are more experienced players in the game than GB and I. And that is the case: marv, rayn, rsoultin ... Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 04:04 coolTLname wrote:On October 02 2015 04:01 GlowingBear wrote:On October 02 2015 03:56 coolTLname wrote:On October 01 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
... furthermore if he read the voting thread, he is jsut blantantly lying.
There was NEVER ever time when coolname/scott/rsoultin were "main lynch targets". this is just a lie, rayn isn't reading thread, im sure u all remember when rsoultin and trfel had 4 votes a piece. On October 01 2015 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i know LS is not the most logical guy, but he gets his stuff somewhere, everyone does. What he says doesn't make any sense. The conclusion definitely did not come from reading the voting thread, that is 100% obvious. If he had skimmed the thread he would know that (1) GB is actually one of the main lynch targets, (2) rsoultin is not, (3) coolTLname is being voted BECAUSE scott claimed. Somehow he conveniently misses those KEY things that lead to the situation we were at the time. I can't see this being possible unless you are like the most unfortunate person on the planet when you skim through the thread. i was not voted because scott claimed, he claimed at the last minute after i had already a lot of votes - 7. GB never had more votes than rsoultin, by the way. On October 01 2015 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:mmm like here is why this coolnamedude is scum; 1) says he wants to be lynched over scott -> tries to vote for scott 2) says i am mafia for things that do not make me mafia, calls me a liar -> either just straight out lying or didn't read the thread.. but -> says people who do not read the thread are mafia..  3) calls me/you mafia because we are "cluttering the thread for posting so much" -> says rsoultin is town because she has the biggest filter in the game (yes that is literally his only reason he has managed to ACTUALLY provide). My votes did not even count because i posted them too late, and i've posted much more reasons for why rsoultin is town, the biggest being that she did not vote up Trfel when the votes were tied, stating him as town and just accepting her own lynch. On October 01 2015 12:47 coolTLname wrote:On October 01 2015 12:42 Trfel wrote:
I could also probably lynch coolTLname for voting at End of Day and then not posting until 39 minutes later. And then saying that he wanted to get lynched after voting for survival. Like i said earlier, i was busy. To be elaborate i had a therapy session with my dad during the last hour of the game. I actually checked during the session and it seemed clear i would be lynched , until scott revealed at the last minute. I didn't really know what the votes or anything that was going on , but scott seemed suspicious enough to me so i tried to mobile vote him. Unfortunately i was lagging and i cant text for shit, which made my votes not even count, because i missed the deadline, btw. I've caught rayn not really knowing what happening in the thread multiple times now. Not reading the thread doesn't make him mafia Glowing bear u should know better of all people, why would u even say this ? It is quite ridiculous, we all know mafia does not read the thread. Why would a townie not read the thread? Implying he knows GB is known for not reading the thread, something even I, who is not a newbie anymore, was not aware of.So he knows who some of the players are. And he isn't a smurf, as confirmed by rsoultin and LS. So that means he is a lurker reader: someone who has read some games here, but doesn't post or play. That would explain how he knows things about GB, me, and the players more experiences than the both of us. So if he is a lurker reader, he should know than medic cannot heal themselves. This question is an attempt at appearing newbie so mistakes can be excused. coolTLname is mafia.
this thought progression here is just @.@ to me. like that's clearly not what's being said at all and seems to be the lynchpin of his push today?
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On October 03 2015 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 19:46 rsoultin wrote:
but i think this is, again, one of those times where you're hugely detail-oriented and i'm more big picture? like you're not even paying attention to the fact that i'm kind of scumreading moosy and rels for similar things, which is namely that while they appeared to not be interested in actually lynching into the main wagons being discussed at the time (trfel, myself, gb) they didn't really push their cool read at all
This doesn't bother you with Shining at all?
he was at least looking at truffle with me and i have other reasons to townread shining? though truffle's recent posts are making me doubt myself cause i actually thought his filter was pretty solid when i read it tch
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On October 03 2015 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And btw Rels was really interested in lynching you...
no he really kind of wasn't
he was one of the only people arguing with marv d1 and saying we should actually wait for my analyses and giving me room. my inclination was actually to townread him going into his filter because of that
like i get he said i could be scum for lack of reads later but it's not like he's doing stupid shit like sl was lol
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On October 03 2015 19:52 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2015 19:46 rsoultin wrote:
but i think this is, again, one of those times where you're hugely detail-oriented and i'm more big picture? like you're not even paying attention to the fact that i'm kind of scumreading moosy and rels for similar things, which is namely that while they appeared to not be interested in actually lynching into the main wagons being discussed at the time (trfel, myself, gb) they didn't really push their cool read at all
This doesn't bother you with Shining at all? he was at least looking at truffle with me and i have other reasons to townread shining? though truffle's recent posts are making me doubt myself cause i actually thought his filter was pretty solid when i read it tch
yeah i thought you were talking about something different
he'd been pushing at cool pretty consistently, actually, so no i didn't read it the same way. i also know that all of shining's phone/tablet/work excuses are true lol >< so that colors my perception some i'll admit
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On October 03 2015 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 19:55 rsoultin wrote:On October 03 2015 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And btw Rels was really interested in lynching you... no he really kind of wasn't he was one of the only people arguing with marv d1 and saying we should actually wait for my analyses and giving me room. my inclination was actually to townread him going into his filter because of that like i get he said i could be scum for lack of reads later but it's not like he's doing stupid shit like sl was lol Let's assume this is true for a moment. Why do you think mafia does not hop on your wagon when marv/rayn is pushing it? I mean if i was a new player and you are town that is a perfect excuse to lynch a townie and not be blamed about it, as you can just say "i thought marv/rayn cases were good". Because i can't think of a reason, except for one...
lol you were too busy tunneling me d1 to notice that i completely thought people jumping on my wagon could be scum. i even pushed rels for it then, after which he backed off, defaulted to cool and pissed off so eh
and i was pushing you for it because you kept saying you wanted to push me cause marv was "sure" when he'd said maybe i could be town and stopped pushing prior to
obviously i thought scum was taking advantage, or very likely to? and i didn't like rels just dropping his scumread on truffle to sheep marv while saying truffle and i couldn't be scum together it was meh to me. don't you remember this at all? xP
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it was also part of why i was scumreading scott so -shrugs- though with him i was a bit less sure cause it really is true that he seems to get his rocks off suspecting me every game and that shit-tastic reads post is also something he does pretty much every game
anyway
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like real talk, time, rayn
with how hard i went on rels there for his dropping his trfel scumread to sheep you guys, whatever "blame" he could have escaped from my flipping town was kind of nonexistent. i'd already made a pretty big stink about him
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On October 03 2015 20:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 20:05 rsoultin wrote:On October 03 2015 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 03 2015 19:55 rsoultin wrote:On October 03 2015 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And btw Rels was really interested in lynching you... no he really kind of wasn't he was one of the only people arguing with marv d1 and saying we should actually wait for my analyses and giving me room. my inclination was actually to townread him going into his filter because of that like i get he said i could be scum for lack of reads later but it's not like he's doing stupid shit like sl was lol Let's assume this is true for a moment. Why do you think mafia does not hop on your wagon when marv/rayn is pushing it? I mean if i was a new player and you are town that is a perfect excuse to lynch a townie and not be blamed about it, as you can just say "i thought marv/rayn cases were good". Because i can't think of a reason, except for one... lol you were too busy tunneling me d1 to notice that i completely thought people jumping on my wagon could be scum. i even pushed rels for it then, after which he backed off, defaulted to cool and pissed off so eh and i was pushing you for it because you kept saying you wanted to push me cause marv was "sure" when he'd said maybe i could be town and stopped pushing prior to obviously i thought scum was taking advantage, or very likely to? and i didn't like rels just dropping his scumread on truffle to sheep marv while saying truffle and i couldn't be scum together it was meh to me. don't you remember this at all? xP I am not talking about what you were thinking on D1. I am talking about the present.
okay. simple words
rels did hop on my wagon
i did push him, made a big deal about him dropping his read on truffle to sheep the two of you while saying oh well they can't be scum together
and he would look like a flaming pile of shit when i flipped town for that stink, so yes, i do think it's very possible that scum backs off me there when i'm pointing out why his read switch is scummy. people will actually (hopefully) pay that stink a lot of attention when i flip town
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On October 03 2015 20:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am confused. Are you saying Rels was interested in lynching you or not?
Because rn you are saying both.
@.@
you were saying present tense. present tense he hasn't shown a large interest in lynching me
right after marv's case he dropped his read on trfel and sheeped you guys even though he'd been hard pushing trfel. trfel hadn't addressed his points at the time, and he believed that trfel and i couldn't be scum when he did it
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that should read trfel and i couldn't be scum together btw
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On October 03 2015 20:16 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 20:11 rsoultin wrote:
like real talk, time, rayn
with how hard i went on rels there for his dropping his trfel scumread to sheep you guys, whatever "blame" he could have escaped from my flipping town was kind of nonexistent. i'd already made a pretty big stink about him Dear, I've seen rels filter diving and constantly putting opinion in thread. He looks like he is trying to solve the game. Rels is a guy I'm not willing to lynch at all
that's fine? i'm voting cool?
the distinction in my mind between moosy/rels isn't very great, tbh...which one i think is scummier lol ><
i mostly just don't like rels' reasons for pushing cool because i think he's generally more rational than that, and filter dives or not i don't feel like he really pushed his read d1 or got involved with the current wagons beyond mine early when i pushed him for jumping on me
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