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fine with big games...problem is uni load which i won't know until it starts i'll in if i think i can handle it lol >< also ye rolling majority lynches if i roll scum again will make me want to shoot myself in the face. possibly multiple times. so not a fan | ||
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lolol you have no idea how happy it makes me that you didn't say "sudoku"...even though it's technically still inaccurate xP | ||
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not replacing @.@ | ||
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maybe closer to the deadline i'll change my mind | ||
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/in and i will be experimenting with playstyle changes/busy so...ye | ||
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/out horrible, horrible timing for this lol >< i tried, bh, but i'm not that insane | ||
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<3? | ||
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 well fuck it lol i didn't know we were starting on N0 | ||
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On August 26 2015 07:04 justanothertownie wrote: dear god are you town :/ | ||
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the tina may get to lynch someone before she dies! -rolls around the thread- -tosses stones at jat- | ||
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;o; but it's so much fun to be me? | ||
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town concedes! -waves a white flag- | ||
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are you happy? | ||
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-runs and hides- | ||
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On August 26 2015 07:53 WaveofShadow wrote: Ladies. shadowdoom | ||
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;o; <3? not my fault; i'm just a flunkie :/ | ||
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should i poke jat with more sticks? | ||
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-pokes jat with multiple sticks at once- ftr, of the people who have posted he's the most likely to be scum i think | ||
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(wait, isn't that pokemon?) | ||
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On August 26 2015 09:51 VisceraEyes wrote: Hi I'm town. Marv playing like Palmar makes me vom a little in my mouth. Otherwise I like most everyone who's posted so far. i want to be a ferret ^^ | ||
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On August 26 2015 11:11 WaveofShadow wrote: You're certainly acting like one I wanna lynch marv. Can we lynch marv? ##vote: marvellosity no protests gonna shower, do some work and maybe sleep first though  he already give up in the scum qt shadowwaaaaave? | ||
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Exhibit A: marv makes two posts...one around 11pm-ish his time, and one around 1am-ish Exhibit B: two smart american players are already flinging suspicion in his general direction despite the rather reasonable assumption that maybe he has gone to bed now, if marv is town (and scum would know he is) he's not going to be a very happy camper when he wakes up to stupidity and turns on the marv!town charm complete with that lovely ability to get people lynched just because he's marv. so you two are probably town (but idiotic) if he flips scum, though...hello "buss me" message ^^ -drops mic- solved it, boys...oh, and wave? keep the emoticon push up | ||
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On August 26 2015 11:50 Trfel wrote: (see bolded green text) What changed? nothing shower/do some work/maybe sleep first <- the nod to the timezone marv is in where i don't expect him to be that active right now reference to the scum qt <- finding it odd that wave is already pushing for a marv lynch and no, i don't protest. because i find it much more likely that a scum wave is bussing a scum marv than a scum wave is stupidly pushing a town marv, or a town wave isn't sharp enough to realize that a town marv shouldn't be expected to be active in the wee hours of the morning | ||
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On August 26 2015 14:20 Trfel wrote: But does that make me wrong? it makes you probably town for pissing in cornflakes with your doubtiness and yes lol >< there's a fair chance you're wrong. just because someone "could" do something as either alignment (newsflash: that argument holds for almost everything under the sun for every player in existence) doesn't mean that it's not more likely to be one way over another | ||
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other thoughts on ve having one read and not sharing others yada yada other thoughts on wave being too quick to pull the trigger when he's typically wishywashy as town random blah about none of this matters if marv is town though it makes me more inclined to townread them for the cahones it takes to antagonize marv some more yadas and randomness | ||
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On August 26 2015 18:36 marvellosity wrote: What you don't understand is this: 1) everyone knows i (can) exert massive influence, so this kind of low ev play (for mafia) is actually pretty decent because people say what you just said there more importantly 2) the #1 way, by far, to make me less productive is to accuse me of being mafia. So from a mafia point of view, calling me mafia is really a very good tactic marv is being bitchy :/ (and is nominally correct, kinda, except he's not pissy about stupid scumreads and i want to knows why) does marv have a read on palmar? also, the tears ;o; a jat is boring me to tears i will think about a palmar. the odd thing about a palmar is we have think alike moments (i'm just gonna take this from the last game we both rolled town and he annoyed me by simultaneously calling me scum. having some of the same kickass reads for the exact same reasons without realizing it cause he wasn't reading everything and didn't play till like d3 or something :/, and being right on the one i was wrong on lol ><) <- that last was just annoying, not relevant ftr i'm still awful at reading a palmar lol but i can see why he'd think that thought mirrors would make me town after the down under game | ||
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On August 26 2015 20:08 KelsierSC wrote: Trefl is town, I like the aggressive start he had against VE and he was the first one to call rsol on her point being bad. it's brave to be the first one to shoot down an idea compared to parroting. tch it wasn't a bad idea :/ just not a game-solving one agreed on truffle though lol (i think, not 100%, there is something missing that makes me not completely sure) | ||
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On August 26 2015 20:13 marvellosity wrote: what do you think I should have to say about Wave (and to a lesser extent VE), rsoultin? don't worry about Palmar. pissy =/= things to say about them ^^ palmar is town then or is this a aw you're so cutely awful rsoul don't worry your (maybe) pretty head? | ||
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On August 26 2015 20:13 marvellosity wrote: I get pissy (and I talked to Palmar about this a few days ago) when people call me mafia for terrible reasons (and they are always terrible reasons, obviously). No reasons were provided. There's nothing to say. okay lol i've done this so i'll accept it | ||
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then i don't understand :/ | ||
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should i rename you justdoingnothingbutmakingpotshotsatrsoulallgame? | ||
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On August 26 2015 20:16 marvellosity wrote: Palmar may or may not be town there's little point worrying/thinking about it at the moment because you'll go round in pointless circles will hopefully have my usual good read on him by the time it counts towards EoD i'll also accept this lol kelsiiiiieeer be super town for me so i can just not worry about you, k? thanks ^^ you're in that i dunnae maybe it's a [insert random alignment based on girl feels that changes with the wind] category presently now i've got a class i haven't finished reading the material for to prepare for so later bitches xP | ||
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jatty is so a word lol | ||
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On August 26 2015 20:30 KelsierSC wrote: this just means I have to be mean and sarcastic to everyone and we already have JAT in this game so there is no need. negatory the bolded part is just sexy coming from you ^^ and not from jat. maybe he's not mean enough? not sarcastic enough? more likely his just isn't as clever lol >< | ||
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do something interesting jat | ||
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On August 26 2015 20:38 justanothertownie wrote: That's a good idea. Will stop posting and make some nanoparticles instead. pssst if you're talking about alpha particles, that sounds a lot "cooler" than it actually is lol >< -poofs for realsies- | ||
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On August 26 2015 20:48 justanothertownie wrote: Aplha particles aren't nanoparticles. -poofs for realsies- lol actually nanoparticles sounds way more interesting (yay for wiki) than being able to distinguish quiche, nahuatl and quechua poetry/myth telling @.@ take me to work with you? -noms on breakfast- meh@ksc why them? moosydoosy got half-ignored and bf...well actually i wasn't a fan of bf's one post cause it felt a bit forced to me but he's not really someone i'm prone to townreading generally anyway lol >< | ||
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On August 26 2015 21:40 KelsierSC wrote: why does someone being half ignored make a difference? bf made one post that trefl pointed out, he hasn't posted anything and my memory of him is that he tries pretty hard as town mm could be. i coached him but didn't really play the game...and i've never played with him i don't think so you'd know more than i do i remember him trying to insert himself and not caring because it wasn't anything interesting that he was saying lol >< | ||
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On August 26 2015 21:44 KelsierSC wrote: you played with him in gaiden and himalayas i think moosydoosy @.@ good god i can't read i was talking about moosy lol bf i already said made me itchy but if he's the one you were saying tries pretty hard as town then i'm wondering if you were reading the same games lol he got lynched d1 in himalayas for being practically a non-entity and gaiden...nh...i don't remember scum games so well usually. i just remember him being stubborn for awful reasons late game | ||
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On August 26 2015 21:44 Palmar wrote: This is blatantly attacking something that's super simple to explain for no reason. Jat clearly #1 lynch i'd lynch jat with you <3 ^^ | ||
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On August 26 2015 21:46 rsoultin wrote: moosydoosy @.@ good god i can't read i was talking about moosy lol bf i already said made me itchy but if he's the one you were saying tries pretty hard as town then i'm wondering if you were reading the same games lol he got lynched d1 in himalayas for being practically a non-entity and gaiden...nh...i don't remember scum games so well usually. i just remember him being stubborn for awful reasons late game actually he was kinda fine early game in down under. noted lynch jat with me? | ||
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[QUOTE]On August 26 2015 21:43 rsoultin wrote: [QUOTE]On August 26 2015 21:40 KelsierSC wrote: [QUOTE]On August 26 2015 21:38 rsoultin wrote: i remember him trying to insert himself and not caring because it wasn't anything interesting that he was saying lol ><[/QUOTE] deeply ironic[/QUOTE] :/ so rude | ||
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On August 26 2015 21:52 marvellosity wrote: if I was so rude, that means your statement was also :> >> we can quibble but it would be better if you said anything worth saying so i at least feel good about it when i decide you're town and don't do it for just awful reasons like...well...marv was so rude xP | ||
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On August 26 2015 21:54 Palmar wrote: yeah I just caught up. The following people are town Kelsier rsoultin marv trfel moosy I don't remember these posting decon Vivax cheese bf hopeless I'm withholding judgement on these two for now WoS VE And this guy is mafia JAT i like your list lol >< | ||
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On August 26 2015 21:56 justanothertownie wrote: I would argue that it's the only relevant thing brought up in this thread so far. But if it's so easy to explain then go ahead and do it. truffle should but it is that's why it's boring you brought it up to begin with zzz unless truffle doesn't state the obvious that everyone should see, then it would be interesting i'm almost done with breakfast ^^ which means y'all won't have to deal with me for much longer. you can throw a ticker tape parade! (is that how that's spelled?) | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:13 Palmar wrote: a) I've repeatedly and often bragged about being the one person who lynches you correctly on day 1 (it's true, mind you) so awaiting my opinion on you is to be expected. b) Even if you find it unreasonable JAT is making it out to be something we should investigate Trfel on, which is complete bullshit. There is no way trfel is mafia because of this. If he is mafia, this is the last reason he is. :/ lol i wanted to see if truffle would answer this way but i don't see why he wouldn't so...palmar so sexy if he's scum i'd be super sad ;o; -noms on kinda like cheesecake even though i don't necessarily agree with his reasoning lol...intelligent life | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Palmar just thinks JAT is mafia because he think JAT has a poor read, or poor reasoning for Trfel to be mafia. That doesn't make jat mafia. jat having nothing but a poor read on water vapor makes jat mafia hi mafia!jat ^^ | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: And this means I should be paranoid about him acting towny under Palmar's pressure? I find it more likely that JAT is just town. There are a lot of faces that I know are considered to play well, but I'd rather just lynch objectively and put he paranoia aside. If I lose to somebody playing well, I'm OK with that. no it means the reason for your townread is bad, and if the reason for your townread is bad and there are reasons to think he's mafia you shouldn't be an rsoul and wait until the night before lylo to go oh shit i'm a numbnuts and now the guy who always wants to lynch me in lylo has to be convinced i'm just a numbnuts and not mafia and we should lynch the guy i was derping on @.@ tldr is that the best you've got to think jat is town? | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:20 marvellosity wrote: i don't, i think most of the reasoning is kinda superficial or wrong (VE stuff) in addition he likes Palmar as town for liking rsoultin for different reasons than Mr CC liked rsoultin for town. I don't see at all how agreeing on a mutual townread makes someone else town, and even less so when the reasons are different. Palmar's given reasons were the WoS/VE commentary and more specifically the jat "catch", not mentioned at all by CC personally i am more suspicious of people who townread people for different reasons than i do (for a kinda related example, see how i questioned palmar on rsoultin even though i was somewhat on the townside for rsoultin at the time) tis fair the moosy read is mostly why i liked it cause it was an awful reason (that i happen to agree with for awful reasons) but he knew it was and was like fuck it, i think this shit anyway in general...i don't necessarily agree with his reasoning or his reads, but the moosy one makes me think town and the willingness to dive right in is tonally more townie as well i'm not really married to this read, though lol it was just my gut reaction | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:27 MoosyDoosy wrote: Well according to your post saying Cheesycakes is incoherent as town, I'd say he's pretty much confirmed town at this point. lol <3 moosy can be town for the day (for the uninitiated in rsoul-ese, this means he got a d1 pass for posting what i thought) shhhh CC you're messing with my townread on you by saying you don't realize that it's a bad reason lol >< | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:28 KelsierSC wrote: well i said trefl was town i think rsol is likely town aswell a lot of good players are posting so it's hard to give a read that I can be sure on, like I agree with a lot of what marv is saying and how he says it pleases me but he does that every game so i can't be 100% nah i'd say marv's town this game probably yup though the palmarv bromance is lacking ;o; which is interesting to me cause i'm used to the early hard-align from them hrum ye that was meaningless really just a curiosity and i need to stop posting every thought that bebops into my head and takes up residence marv likely town palmar breaks my heart if he's not like truffle like you like moosy cc makes me waffle :/ should lynch jat that's a wrap | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: lol well you are townreading me for bad reasons, because I am townreading Moosy for bad reasons. So if I don't realize I'm townreading JAT for bad reasons, then just assume I am your twin brother in a far-off land who townreads JAT for bad reasons. nope you're not in my no-lynch list anymore :/ the damage was already done -smh- teehee we need a damdy he didn't sign up ;o; | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:39 marvellosity wrote: why? Palmar is very much usually the primary arch-waffler on my alignment, even when it's obvious to everyone else that i'm town. i get the bum end of the deal where i constantly have to protect Palmar from lynches but he gets to question my alignment even when i'm blatantly town it's sad actually you just described what i was talking about lol >< if you have a read on palmar i missed it. that's what's lacking in the usual town!palmarv drama | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:43 MoosyDoosy wrote: Yeah this. I don't really see much on JAT. If he's mafia, he'll still be mafia later in the day anyway. I think we should focus on Trfel rite now. truffle's probably town with the stipulation that he didn't make me laugh :/ | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: What exactly constitutes "jatty"? And I actually agree with the first statement totally. I guess one reason why I think JAT is town is because the case on him is bad. lol an early d1 case from two tonereaders is bad? no shit sherlock doesn't make him town i'm going to tell you a story about a glowingbear. there was once a glowingbear. he likes to say WHARGARRBLE and do the forum mafia version of a paranoid schizophrenic off his adhd meds. he writes cases on mafia marvs and holyflares that are so shitty you need a plunger. but if there's a glowingbear with a marv or hf scumread and you don't give it a little credence you're an idiot, cause he's usually right for the wrong reasons lol >< jat doesn't sound like jat (parroty but actually adding to the discussion in his own parroty way) and his sole claim to fame is a question that's at best zzzzz while doing nothing else productive he is probably scum and it doesn't matter if the "case" is good or not | ||
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On August 26 2015 22:46 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'd still like an answer to why he asked for an opinion on marv when there was literally almost nothing that marv had posted. I feel like it's getting punted to the side while people are trying to kill JAT. several games (2-3 that i'm aware of?) palmar has caught scum!marv off of about that many posts and lynched him d1. jat is not unaware of this (he was in at least one of those games) so it's not a ridiculous thing for truffle to say it is however a ridiculous thing for jat to latch onto, and most especially a ridiculous thing to be the only thing jat latches onto | ||
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but if y'all need to keep poking at him you can i won't stop you | ||
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On August 26 2015 23:04 MoosyDoosy wrote: I dislike meta reads esp in D1. I would understand if there were several days and someone's meta was consistently off during those days, but using meta as a D1 lynch just feels meh to me esp since I've never played with JAT, palmar, or marv. just as an fyi metareads are more common d1 for players who have been playing awhile because there's not much to go off yet, so it's something you'll have to get used to lol >< | ||
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On August 26 2015 23:07 Palmar wrote: I kinda agree with marv But I know rsoultin gets off of poking things so whatevs pssst that's just a rumor :0 | ||
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On August 26 2015 23:08 MoosyDoosy wrote: tbh I like tone reads a lot better D1 than meta reads. tbh my tone reads usually involve some form of meta or they'd just be gut reads lol but yes this is a tone/meta hybrid that is classic rsoul ^^ i'd say take it all the way to the bank and cash it in but jat isn't one of my pocket read players...palmar probably has a better track record with him than i do that said, palmar agrees so i'm happy \o/ lynch jat! | ||
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On August 26 2015 23:18 VisceraEyes wrote: Whoawhoa, I'm asleep for like 6 hours and already people are saying things like "I think JAT is mafia"? I hope that's a joke :/ i expect "you're so amazing" "what can i do to be like you?" "here let me give you a cookie" when/if jat flips scum this game ^^ is this just a general protest or an actual townread on the un-townreadable? | ||
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On August 26 2015 23:18 MoosyDoosy wrote: I think this is pretty clear but it goes both ways. I had a town read on him earlier which is why I'm asking for his thoughts, but if he's a Mafia that's just gone afk this is a good chance to call him out. if you say you're townreading him for the emoticons thing i will beat you with a wet noodle padawan ^^ | ||
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On August 26 2015 23:21 VisceraEyes wrote: The last thing I read from him last night was his protesting you townreading me and Wave for throwing scum on marv, which I found to be extraordinarily townie at the time. He might have done something since, I'm reading now, but that's where that comes from. i wasn't actually townreading you two for that lol so um you should probably reread that whole section | ||
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jat's one "remarkable" post was blah therefore jat has done nothing remarkable jat may not be the most gung-ho scumhunter or whatever (he's actually more of a peanut gallery type player with sass, and that's possibly putting it nicely) however this is a whole lot more nothing than town jat's usually try to slide by with. he usually values his own opinion way more than this that is why he's scum y'all are getting hung up on the question when it's not the question but the LACK of ANYTHING interesting that makes him scum. not really sure how to make this clearer? | ||
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On August 26 2015 23:34 MoosyDoosy wrote: Trfel was not joking. He is a very serious player. It is when he jokes that he is Mafia more often than not. lol not true | ||
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On August 26 2015 23:39 justanothertownie wrote: He shouldn't townread me for that, true. But please don't try to make it look like you have any real reason to think I am mafia because you really don't. is that a scumread? cause it makes no sense unless you're calling me scum ^^ push me or go do something to change my read <3 classtime! \o/ | ||
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When do you plan on showing up to this game? -your not-so-friendly neighborhood raoul | ||
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On August 27 2015 01:39 MoosyDoosy wrote: rsoul, do you think Palmar could have read marv based on "heya" and "this is delightful"? If you say yes, then that means Trfel's question was valid. If you say no, then that means Trfel's question was weird and we need to take action on it. i know that truffle's question did not raise red flags with me, which generally means that the context (and y'all are taking this out of context lovelies) makes the question make sense. when i review it i fully expect to find someone else scumreading marv (wave/ve?) and him saying well i want to wait and see what palmar thinks in that context which as i said since no red flags when i read it, i completely expect to find, there is not a damn thing weird about this supposed "question" and jat pinging him out on it is puke-worthy it's possible i misread. doubt it | ||
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On August 27 2015 01:40 WaveofShadow wrote: Rsoul!! Hi!!! Hi!!!!!!! Let's play so I can be not mad at you anymore. Talk to me about stuff. Thoughts on Cheesecake? Moosy? dunnae about cc but i still like moosy <3 | ||
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On August 27 2015 01:49 WaveofShadow wrote: Marv didn't townread Palmar per se but he didn't scumread him either after all of that back and forth. I have a pretty hard time believing Palmar is scum after getting the business in exactly this way in an earlier game. Rsoul can vouch for me. It's more likely to me that Palmar is wrong than scum, I think. nh yes palmar is sexy ^^ and i don't think this is scum palmar disclaimer: i have a horrid record of reading palmar disclaimer to the disclaimer: ^ when he's trolling, specifically. i've actually been fairly okay at it when he's not even when others are incorrectly scumreading him | ||
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On August 27 2015 01:59 justanothertownie wrote: There is literally 0 reason for rfel to say that at this point. It is pure filler. You pinging me out for this is puke-worthy. prove it ^^ | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Eugh. I mean I guess the disconnect between older and newer players exists in this game. You probably are also more experienced with the 'good' wave than the bad one and know less about older players (hence the me being mad at you  ) so you're less likely to find moosy's early praises of me strange...? Or maybe I'm just biased.nh players are reduced to their own experiences, so no, i don't find it strange that new player would have a generally different view of the playerbase than players who have been playing longer it's a toneread that isn't particularly strong but i feel like he's town ^^ in part for the same reason cc did, in part cause he had similar reactions to things as me that i didn't bother responding to, and in part just because of how he's responding to everything in a relatively natural way | ||
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On August 26 2015 11:54 rsoultin wrote: nothing shower/do some work/maybe sleep first <- the nod to the timezone marv is in where i don't expect him to be that active right now reference to the scum qt <- finding it odd that wave is already pushing for a marv lynch and no, i don't protest. because i find it much more likely that a scum wave is bussing a scum marv than a scum wave is stupidly pushing a town marv, or a town wave isn't sharp enough to realize that a town marv shouldn't be expected to be active in the wee hours of the morning On August 26 2015 12:01 rsoultin wrote: truffle you aren't talking to me >> On August 26 2015 13:21 Trfel wrote: Family comes first, sorry. I'll be more active in maybe another hour and a half, if you're still awake then. Otherwise, I'm interested to see what Palmar has to say about marvellosity. ^ reading comprehension test says he's not impressed with my reasoning and trusts palmar to be able to get an early read on marv over wave/ve/my lovely tinfoil re: wave/ve/marv also, i think wave's town lol >< so my tinfoil isn't quite so tinfoily now is it? (watch wave be scum just cause i said that now) | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:10 WaveofShadow wrote: This is fair, though I posit that the 'natural way' that he has responded to things is fairly superficial and extremely easy to fake, especially as a newer scum player. Like anything and everything that he has said about me could come from either alignment and I lean towards the scummier side because town Moosy has no need to say those kinds of things or lean so hard. I am also inclined however to give Moosy more time since in my experience with him he had the potential for an explosive towngame before we killed him. He just ramped up to it very slowly. hm :/ i can see your point, though i don't quite agree? i agree it's easy-ish to do but i don't agree that most people actually successfully pull it off lol >< well i don't want to lynch him today anyway. i'll revisit if jat decides to play and i decide he's not the best lynch today | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:10 justanothertownie wrote: Yes, you are. There is no way you can seriously consider Trfel confirmed town. There is no way you would back off me for calling Trfel confirmed town. The only intention you have is making me mad. what you are doing is throwing a tantrum. i am even willing to remove my vote if that will allow you to be less tantrum-y, but throwing a tantrum and saying people are bad does not make you town your trfel push is shit do something that isn't. that's what i'm looking for. i've yet to see it | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:18 justanothertownie wrote: Well, I am leaving now. It is wednesday and wednesday night is pubquiz time. Maybe I will return for a short while later, maybe I won't. Can make any promises about tomorrows activity since it is my birthday. When I return I will flat out ignore any further bullshit brought up against me unless I think it is alignment indicative. Currently I would look for scum between WoS, Trfel, Moosy and possibly CC between the people that have posted a little. reasons | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:19 justanothertownie wrote: Your push on me is shit. My Trfel point is still one of the best ones that have been brought up this game. But we already established that you are having a bad game if you are town and ftr I still kinda think you are. it's shit. i debunked it. move on reasons | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:22 justanothertownie wrote: You haven't debunked anything and no, I won't give you any reasons. You will have to find something to talk about that's not me. Suck it. I am off. you fail to understand why i'm scumreading you and you also fail to note that i've been talking about plenty of things not you ^^ this looks more like a dodge to me than anything else enjoy your bday | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:23 justanothertownie wrote: He is a little too correct I think. Very very clean posts. first semi-townie post i've seen from you lol >< | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:25 KelsierSC wrote: can i get like a summary of what else you said. not that I don't love reading all your posts but...it's easier if it just one place lol really >< on what? on everything? even things i've changed my mind about? caveat: jat, are you saying his posts are too clean as in constructed? | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:32 KelsierSC wrote: well it's just my abiding memory of your posting was about JAT and well..it's easy for points you make to get mixed in with the other words you type. i found your list of reads so its ok. you and wave still bros? i've got town feels on him but i'd have to glance back at what i scanned during lunch to remember why lol >< i think it's how he responded to the pressure + just sheepled without being all super!town about it wave seems insanely conscious how he looks when he's scum...even in gaiden he had a strangely good thumb on the pulse of thread sentiment while being basically afk...people outside the scum team may think it was just lazy but the calculation there was impressive to me | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:36 KelsierSC wrote: dude he literally said im not going to post and see how long i can get away with it =) dude you got modkilled too early to know what i'm talking about lol >< | ||
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two moments stood out to me...one where he went shit shit i fucked up because he came back and his posts didn't make sense from town (he was questioning the scumreads on one of the largely scumread townies, i think the cop we auto-lynched) and hard-bussing me to keep town happy and content. no he didn't do much but he clearly knew what he was doing there's nothing calculated about sheeping the jat vote on no reasoning of his own lol >< and i don't see him doing that as scum | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:40 KelsierSC wrote: he did add additional reasoning though ..maybe im drunk true :/ don't ask me to qualify my feels! it's like asking me to i dunnae...describe music or something i wouldn't even talk about it if you didn't ask cause lol it's not really that important presently | ||
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the semi-townie thing on jat i dunnae actually was townie tbh he's kind of a bully when he's caught as scum, in that he just flails around, and i'm not seeing anything particularly brilliant to make me think he's actually town here. did anyone else see something that would counter that impression? ftr, what i expect from a jat is essentially agreement sometimes with no elaboration, sometimes with an extra point that introduces a new perspective or disagreement and why that's fairly well-reasoned instead i see a lot of flailing and a refusal to admit that his push on truffle isn't good or an attempt to revisit that section and see if he was wrong/prove that i'm wrong about the context of truffle's comment | ||
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ye i wouldn't use feels if they didn't work better than logics for me -_- they're irritating and especially hard to explain who does the ksc want to lynch right now? also, do you have a read on vivax? he's not coming off to me as nearly as townie as he was in storm and i'm not sure if that's because i was scum there and already knew he was town or what | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:52 KelsierSC wrote: basically for JAT, i saw the point he made about trefl, it wasn't a great point and i offered an explanation for it, but i don't think his rebuttal was too bad, then you gave another explanation for it and palmar went off on him. point is we have multiple explanations and trefl hasn't even come back to give the actual explanation so it's hard to make a read off it. I was expecting JAT to come back and give reads on the game but it's been as you said, more of a tantrum than anything else. the only interesting area was about wave I think and I think his reentry to the game has been a bit awkward then moosy who I scumread decides to vote JAT despite being null on him, but i'm not sure if he is just incompetent town rather than scum. ye i just don't see that point in context at all. out-of-context, sure. and to tout it as the "best point in the thread" this late in the game is at best deluded, imo ye, i'll admit, i was curious about who he was scumreading for jumping on his wagon but in the end i don't know how alignment indicative it is and i'm really curious about his CC read cause it's either really awful or actually somewhat townie lol >< but he hasn't clarified what he meant so i can't say one way or the other | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:55 KelsierSC wrote: among active players...i'd lynch moosy/wave amongst the afk's i'd lynch bf or hopeless i have no idea on vivax yet. he went from brain vomit to "not post as town to fix my meta" so needless to say it's a crapshoot for me at this point i'd trust your judgement on him. lol >< i've been able to tell he was town even when he wasn't posting here the last several months but he's not giving me those vibes so far this game. tbf it's early and it usually became obvious to me as his lynch was forming so i'm not sure... meh i don't want to lynch either of them :/ | ||
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On August 27 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm used to the suspicion. D1's for me suck anyway. D2 is where I stop acting noobish/sheeping and start becoming active. i'm not interested in lynching you today barring some amazing revelation or some such shit; you're fine | ||
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someone (viva i think?) mentioned my trfel-whisperer thing lol >< i think? (don't quote me here) that the last time i was actually town and playing with trfel was noir? lol all of that noise in my scum games was just that...noise i do trust that i'm fairly good at reading him and i've seen nothing that screams scum to me, however i'm not 100% balls to the wall i'll defend trfel from any and all comers by any means. i actually feel that his absence (although not out of character) is a mark against him -_- seeing as how he handled this last scum game with me and i doubt he'd be any more motivated this time that said the early push was not something i'd expect from a scum trfel and was sufficiently inquisitive to not ring my trfel is being overly aggressive alarm bells i wouldn't lynch him today | ||
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On August 27 2015 03:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Do I have reason to trust your trfel-whisperer thing? Don't you claim to have reads like that on other people too like brehske or something? Are those truly always right? I don't remember. lol i've been wrong on everyone i'm good at reading at least once i'm pretty sure? i'm fairly good at reading trfel correctly against thread sentiment, or was student mafia v and noir are both good examples of that if i'm confident on a read i'll present it that way | ||
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On August 27 2015 03:26 deconduo wrote: How many of those are you confident about this game? just marv lol >< most aren't in this game or if they are they haven't posted | ||
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On August 27 2015 03:37 WaveofShadow wrote: You REALLY think moosy needs us this badly as to ask that question? -shrugs- i don't think it makes him mafia to ask? | ||
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On August 27 2015 07:19 justanothertownie wrote: No. Too clean basically means "too correct"/"too reasonable". too correct in what way? | ||
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On August 27 2015 07:18 justanothertownie wrote: **** you. You go do something. Of course that's the obvious thing Trfel would say but that still is NO reason to say it in the first place. disagree. not gonna talk about it anymore on the off-chance you're town and just being stubborn | ||
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On August 27 2015 07:21 justanothertownie wrote: Are you really this stupid or are you playing it? i want to know in clear english exactly what you're saying ^^ so yes, i want to know in what way you think his posts are too correct. examples. what gave you that impression. you gave a thesis statement and i want the meat | ||
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On August 27 2015 07:25 justanothertownie wrote: Of course you won't because you don't have any argument in this case. There was 0 reason to post this for Trfel besides to have posted something. talk about something else | ||
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On August 27 2015 07:28 justanothertownie wrote: He was on my side immediately and had a very good grasp on the situation from the very beginning even though very influential people like you and Palmar insisted on showing their lack of intelligence by attacking me for no reason. I just think this is easier to do as mafia who knows that I am town and that certain people are being retarded. okay that was the semi-townie option. thank you for answering on like the tenth time i asked xP | ||
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On August 27 2015 07:29 justanothertownie wrote: If you were able to understand basic logic this would have been obvious the first time. Marv got it. dude, my first reaction to your post was this, but then i wanted to be sure that was what you were actually saying now pull the stick out your ass and discuss the game with me plz and thank you | ||
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On August 27 2015 07:34 justanothertownie wrote: No, you don't even deserve to discuss the game with me. If you behave I may comment on whatever you bring up but unlike you I haven't tunneled a townie to the extent of making them want to quit the game so far. okay you can continue to be awful ^^ hey maaaaarv do you have a read on viva? | ||
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On August 27 2015 07:37 KelsierSC wrote: I don't buy the CC looks too good so he must be mafia. no looks too good would be the wrong answer from jat jat's actual answer is that cc was hard-defending him as if he had tmi...too correct | ||
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On August 27 2015 07:28 justanothertownie wrote: He was on my side immediately and had a very good grasp on the situation from the very beginning even though very influential people like you and Palmar insisted on showing their lack of intelligence by attacking me for no reason. I just think this is easier to do as mafia who knows that I am town and that certain people are being retarded. ^ ??? what am i misinterpreting? | ||
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On August 27 2015 07:42 justanothertownie wrote: I think you are arguing semantics right now. Looking good and being right aren't mutually exclusive. -_- i'm not arguing semantics i'm saying a scumread on "too polished" is not enough to make me doubt my scumread on you, and it is a weak reason to scumread cc in a vacuum. i don't know him and i don't think ksc does either cause we started playing at about the same time i think it's a fairly townie thing to be suspicious of the one guy defending you, especially when it's for no good reason. that makes me doubt my scumread it's really not to your advantage to keep firing at me every chance you get, especially if you think i'm town -_- | ||
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On August 27 2015 11:11 Trfel wrote: Hopeless1der is more likely to be scum than the other two because of meta. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491681-tropical-storm-mini-mafia Here you go. It's not irrelevant, it's very relevant, and very useful. >> i think you should stop being a lazy fuck and actually filter dive/read the thread instead of defaulting to a metaread that could just be hopeless has no time has he posted a single thing? cause i don't remember him doing so | ||
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i know that this is likely you just being lazy cause you like to really put in the work when you analyze. i'm asking you as nicely as i can (given i don't have all the time in the world myself) to at least look through the people others are suspicious of instead of blatantly thumbing your nose at the thread. you signed up | ||
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On August 27 2015 11:51 MoosyDoosy wrote: rsoul is almost sexier than Kels right now which is quite something. impossible o.0 oh, wait...i should say duh...or... lol >< | ||
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it's nothing unusual for a town truffle? meh -_- what i don't like about jat really apart from his refusal to really play like i'd expect him to is i have a tendency to townread him even when he's scum and as i said before, that i'm this suspicious of him is just...it makes me not want to drop the read i have doubted it a couple times. i do think he could just be frustrated town playing shit. but his stubbornness about the truffle thing is very off-putting and his inability to work around suspicion is bad as well. i know he bullies people off him when he's scum so i'm trying to ignore the AtE and i'm trying not to fight with him when he keeps trying to draw me into one when i was giving him breathing room why he doesn't contribute to the game even while being scumread i don't understand. i've always been capable of that as town and my impression of him is he should be emotionally mature enough to be able to do that as town as well ftr if i throw fits without contributing that is almost always when i'm mafia like, i don't think he's town and i don't like to put it this way cause rayn's done this to me way too much recently and it makes you feel like shit if you are town but frankly...i don't think he can be this bad as town i still want to lynch him. conversely, i'm not like 100% or even close to 100% sure and i'd understand if people didn't think rsoul feels she's not even completely sure of are enough and now i think i've rambled and it's not clear -_- but anyway i'm not seeing anyone else who i think has a strong possibility of being scum, just a bunch of afkish blahs lol also vivax waffle vivax waffle someone help me with vivax why isn't it obvious what his alignment is to me @.@ | ||
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On August 27 2015 20:25 marvellosity wrote: and Vivax, because he's not doing much, he keeps doing quick flybys. :/ i liked it when he made himself obvious to me meh i'm gonna put him in my scumleans but maybe prefer an afker over him for lynch i dunnae i don't have a reason to think he's town but at the same time i think i'll be able to tell later nh anything else oh bf may be the best afker. sounds dumb but he almost seemed "too reasonable" while being useless, and i haven't experienced his scum game, but i remember his town game being quite frustrating at times for lack of sense making | ||
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this one section where he said lots of shit talking to himself, shit that i can't remember, but just you know eagerness and tone and things made me think that i'm not gonna push that read at all at all with people who know him better though so lol marv if you're tunneled there just know that i'll defer to you and try not to be xP insofar as that's possible for anyone and while hoping that i'm not doing that with jat right now lol >< and yes reads list would be good jat | ||
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On August 27 2015 20:31 justanothertownie wrote: 1) Stop applying your own meta to me. It is stupid. 2) I have not been shit and you never even remotely adressed any of the points I brought up directly so you don't get to call them shit in the first place. 3) Scumreading someone for the bolded is a common mistake which is done by new or bad players most of the time. You are doing exactly what you say makes people feel like shit as town (calling me scum for not being town enough instead of having any reason to scumread me) but then you are surprised when it pisses me off. At some point you should maybe start thinking about what you are doing/saying. yes, this is how i toneread people i know i have an insanely good track record reading people this way, especially good players. by insanely i mean somewhere over 90% and it's always players like marv, damdy, rayn, etc. etc. whether or not the method looks good to others (and i'm aware it doesn't look strong) it works. that's why i use it this is an example of attacking me instead of contributing which i'd expect you to be capable of as town, because i am, and as you've repeatedly attempted to say in direct and not so direct ways, i'm a horrible player so you should be better than me right? | ||
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On August 27 2015 20:33 justanothertownie wrote: Essentially there is noone who really thinks I am scum for anything else than not being insanely towny while there are multiple very viable explanations for this observation. How anyone can think this makes me (who will always become more readable as time goes by) the best day1 lynch does not know how to play the game of mafia. the last time you told me to shut up about a d1 read i had because "objectively" they weren't a good d1 lynch it was marv in assassination he was mafia you were mafia play | ||
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whether you agree with my initial scumread or not, whether you think it was stupid or not, that's not why i still want to lynch you. it has everything to do with your reaction to literally two players who let's be honest people tend to ignore on day ones so acting like you're some sort of martyr this whole time is fucking stupid | ||
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On August 27 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote: fine, you're getting lynched for 0 reason. the whole game is full of idiots and they love lynching you based on nothing. Now we've established that, there's little point bitching about being lynched for 0 reason, that's just the way things are. you could like... talk about other things. so much this -_- reads jat come on. if you have to talk to him instead of me, do it, but do it | ||
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On August 27 2015 20:45 justanothertownie wrote: The more you try to give orders the me the longer I will wait until I do anything besides calling you stupid. it's not orders this is me appealing to the town in jat to help me get out of my scumread on you if there is no town in jat feel free to ignore it i have explained why i think you're scum and have attempted to give you the opportunity to change that read multiple times while you continue to act like some sort of toddler in the middle of a tantrum calling me names and calling me shit. okay. whatever. i'm shit. that make you happy? now do something to make even a shit player like me think you're town. marv is waffling on you cause you objectively do not look town and no, palmar and i do get ignored a lot cause of our reasons for things. it is what it is. he gets paid attention to a bit more cause he's proven he's not shit and i sometimes get paid attention to depending on who is in the game, but an early toneread from us is not enough to hang you so this display is just juvenile this is the last time i'm appealing to you if you're town clearly my read is wonky but it won't be completely my fault, either, tbf and it will be one of the few mislynches i've pushed that i won't feel particularly bad about -_- so please if you're town just make it clear, damn you | ||
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i will also be ignoring all posts like this ^ that are blatant attempts at AtE/bullying you've been warned and now i'm gonna eat breakfast and go to class so ye...i'll read what goes on jat...bf...hopeless i think would be my lynches in that order? i don't much care about condor personally one way or another either but i know he was a super easy mislynch in storm so eh | ||
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cause fuck wave he can fool me and has but really it seemed to me like he got suspicious of moosy early for moosy relying on others (which i actually don't find that strange in anyone, especially new players, but i get the paranoia) and has been kinda...tunneled...on him since? i think wave's wrong but i don't know that that makes him scum? ksc mind quoting the stuff jat actually did? like i remember the stuff on truffle to some extent but i remember it from vivax i think maybe? i'm pretty sure it was vivax | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:31 WaveofShadow wrote: KSC also hinging on CCs nit-picking points as a reason to lynch me makes him look even worse imo. He even voted me before CCs huge case iirc and now he uses that to justify Rsoul I think it was with you we talked about ksc? And I think at the time I felt I was maybe being unreasonable and you convinced me. Still think the same about ksc? Was it ksc? I dunnae lol I like him. People I like get townread too easy. For what it's worth I think it's his lazyish towngame cause doesn't feel quite lazy enough to be scum And trfel just feels like trfel. Btw he was obv filter diving everyone be that's the answer to your inconsistency | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:45 WaveofShadow wrote: How does that invalidate his case? Plus he filter dives everyone as scum Tina. Go get some ham. The inconsistency is based on different responses to the same post so his point is invalid given a filter dive often gives different impressions? The case is townie but the conclusion is wrong I think lol | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:51 WaveofShadow wrote: It doesn't invalidate his case but maybe you pinpoint why I'm unconvinced by it. Meh I think we're stuck on semantics I think lol Truffles wafflies are town truffle though. He amuses me when he argues with himself in his own posts | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:53 WaveofShadow wrote: Wut Explain this plz For.... future reference Nope ^^ if i'm right i'll be able to read you and that's too valuable XP | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:55 WaveofShadow wrote: I disagree with this. He got hardread town by an entire game by posting in exactly that way. No he didn't | ||
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On August 27 2015 23:57 VisceraEyes wrote: Add to that the fact that he calls both myself AND JAT mafia and votes for NEITHER of us - which is really odd considering JAT was (and is?) the current vote leader. So he doesn't want to lynch JAT? Why not the other mafias he's reading? Why an inactive that could just be AFK town? Why would he do this as scum? | ||
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On August 28 2015 00:00 VisceraEyes wrote: Why wouldn't he? He knows I'm town and (I think) JAT is town, and he doesn't want the full force of either of us bearing down on him. So he votes for someone else, hides his "reasoning" in spoilers and crosses his fingers. Why would he do this as town? He's more confident of his metaread on hopeless? | ||
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On August 28 2015 00:05 marvellosity wrote: Wave 2 marv 2 rsoultin 1 boys > girls I win cause I answered the actual question XP lol Still waiting on followthrough from a certain someone | ||
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On August 28 2015 00:14 justanothertownie wrote: What the actual fuck? Did you even read my posts about him earlier? I said EXACTLY this. Are you townreading truffle now cause if you're not them you didn't say exactly this :/ | ||
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On August 28 2015 00:17 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm fighting a mighty urge to say something obscenely inappropriate right now LMAO Suffice to say, beards have more utility than you're allowing for. Lol maybe. My culture they look weird in. Men. Facial hair. What? Lol | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:30 justanothertownie wrote: The most horrid thing about it is you vote. be still i haven't read and i imagine you finally did shit or people wouldn't be flailing like madmen on that note, i'm not feeling a vivax lynch today ^^ hi vivax | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:32 deconduo wrote: Is there any reason to lynch BF over hopeless? Hopeless has been worse on every count as far as I can tell. i didn't like bf's entry for tonal reasons. i can't remember why hopeless is here though so maybe i should peek at his filter as well instead of read the 15ish pages i'm behind | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:33 Vivax wrote: Do explain in detail, we need to consolidate. Can I warm you up for a Trfel lynch? BF and hopeless feel more craphshooty than him. not lynching truffle second target? | ||
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dunnae...assume you've posted something more than the two posts i've read -flicks- | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:35 WaveofShadow wrote: If you're wrong on Trfel I reserve the right to not listen to your weird 90% tone reads (not that I'm listening to them now) um, what's the point of this post? | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:37 justanothertownie wrote: You do not seem very suprised for being this sure about me being mafia earlier. call me scum or back off when i see a votecount like that, being not a complete moron, i assume something changed now would you like to tell me what has everyone running around like headless chickens or would you like to keep sniping? | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:38 Vivax wrote: ninjad. In fact I hoped you'd answer this cause it probably means the truffle is mafia given you've been wrong on each other in the last games I remember you having opposite alignments in. ... uh huh so since truffle can't read me i can't read him? stop being a moron | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote: If Trfel is mafia I expect a formal apology from rsoultin AND Palmar. if you're town, sure and then i expect a formal apology for generally being a douche ^^ just saying | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:41 KelsierSC wrote: JAt isn't the lynch i don't understand votes still on him I think hopeless is a good lynch , boxerfred is fine too decon seemed ok when he came in but his weird taunting of JAT and mindless questions means i'd be ok lynching him rsoultin why aren't we lynching vivax? weird stupid association between bf and decon saying it here just cause if it comes to pass it will be a nice ego stroke bueno eh, viva is being viva-y lol >< aggressive from weird angles...doing his own thing while ignoring the rest of us which is indicative of his town game | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:41 KelsierSC wrote: JAt isn't the lynch i don't understand votes still on him I think hopeless is a good lynch , boxerfred is fine too decon seemed ok when he came in but his weird taunting of JAT and mindless questions means i'd be ok lynching him rsoultin why aren't we lynching vivax? at any point people can just you know let me in on it or at least cite a page number ye? | ||
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found the cc read jat talk to me about it kk cause i was just scanning and i do better realtime what are all these inconsistencies and how do they make him mafia specifically? | ||
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please work with me so we can consolidate -_- i've got a game i'm cohosting and this and i'm behind. surely you can get that | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:54 Vivax wrote: I'm also tempted to sheep Palmar and lynch him if he's wrong, but not doing that before I see him re-evaluating after jat posted reads. lol that went so well last time i did that @.@ | ||
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eh damn i should just read | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:56 deconduo wrote: Then consolidate on hopeless. There's no reason to vote for BF over hopeless: Then he shows up, posts this and fucks off agian: and? | ||
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even for a bf with no time this is atrocious plus | ||
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On August 27 2015 19:14 boxerfred wrote: So here's my townread on marv mainly because of his reaction to me and also his genuine discussions. I like that. wtf is this? | ||
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which granted it makes sense he votes who marv is voting so that at least can be explained but i find it fucking odd that he's read enough of the thread to have a read on marv but nothing else | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:00 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Moosy you really need to explain that vote before I get you lynched not lynching moosy | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:02 deconduo wrote: Nothing, but I think hopeless is a better lynch today. Yes but at least he's given a read, which hopeless hasn't. so...we're judging towniness by number or reads now? what are your reads? | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Then someone needs to explain why moosy put me in his town circle, said he wasnt going to lynch me day 1 / 2 and then votes on me for no reason. ask him | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:03 KelsierSC wrote: going for a shower -_- | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: You literally quoted that post. C'mon Rsoultin. lol yeah i realized that after the snap post xP i dunnae i just know i'm not lynching him for that decon...your issue with hopeless is specifically...rng? | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:05 deconduo wrote: Moosy town, keslier town, hopeless scum, trfle scummish. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same scumteam as in TSM given how you have been playing. Though that would take some serious trolling from BH given how i'm playing? lol | ||
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i don't :/ | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:07 deconduo wrote: 1. Same meta as TSM 2. RNG'd a vote 3. Came back to the thread, posted a few things and stuck with the RNG vote. Also add VE to the town list. meta is blah rng who knows, the third point i get though | ||
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everyone give three people they'd lynch and if you're super adamant sell your lynch boxerfred for the really weird one read out in the stratosphere + being completely useless beyond what he ever is as town hopeless mostly just for consolidation sake cause i'm really not sure he couldn't do this as town, though condor has a point on the whole rng...reads a large portion of the thread...then sticks to rng vote without giving much on his read through and cc (partially poe, partially on a whim given guts and a half-scanned post from jat lol ><) | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:19 MoosyDoosy wrote: rsoultin, are you sure vivax/trfel are no lynch territory today? vivax more than truffle, but i think they're both town -_- | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:21 Vivax wrote: Boxer isn't voting and if he ninjavotes he's an easy catch on D2. Hopeless feels like a shot in the dark. CC I would have lynched, I think Jat summed it up nicely AND the fact he seems to have his reads sorted out but then resorts to shenannies on me, however the thing from moosy he brought up and the way moosy unlurked and started going nuts gives me pause on this. I'd like that sorted out soon. boxer is voting agreed on hopeless essentially just don't want to lynch some of these other wagons | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:24 Vivax wrote: Let's call it a semi ninja cause he knows that voting 1 minute before deadline is like a guaranteed death. However it's the confirmation that he's around doing nothing on purpose and still reads the game. ye, tis true | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I could lynch almost anyone at this point. The only bad thing about lynching BF is if he flips town, we gain almost nothing from it. and your alternative is moosy? no go | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Hi I'm back, who we lynching? i'm lynching bf whoever we're lynching we need to agree | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:28 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I was townreading him until he suddenly defied everything he's said thus far about me who else is scum? | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:30 MoosyDoosy wrote: mmm...rsoul could i convince u to do a switch onto trfel? only with an amazing case that defies everything i know about him which isn't impossible just unlikely ^^ | ||
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moosy, you're making me twitch, but not in the want to lynch you way more in the want to see if you're trying to get lynched over the current wagon on purpose way | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:37 VisceraEyes wrote: Wait has Hopeless done something outlandishly town since he did that RNG bullshit? um no? | ||
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no info on bf let's lynch hopeless that makes...sense? | ||
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and hopeless can be this bad as town whereas i don't think bf generally is but i don't think hopeless is the worst lynch on the planet either so meh -_- | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:47 marvellosity wrote: i want to know why deconduo is so adamant about hopeless over anyone else heh lol >> channeling me today marv | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:57 Trfel wrote: I think that Hopeless1der's post is okay, I suppose. Bleh. Switch to deconduo or something? why not boxer? | ||
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On August 28 2015 06:58 Palmar wrote: I fell asleep and now it's too late I think. Why did we go with these two over Vivax? bf is being completely unapologetic about being afk (and voting jat) and hopeless is... idk. actually I think I'll switch to hopeless. I have no idea honestly, but I kinda doubt that either of them is mafia. viva looks townie | ||
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so like... marv/palmar/viva/truffle i don't even want to think about as scum i had a random ass...everyone is going nuts...thought when i returned to the thread and the jat wagon was dissolving, but i haven't had the chance/gumption to pursue it yet...like maybe one of the flailings got too close to scum and that's why there were like 6 wagons @.@ i dunnae how good a thought that is especially without looking at the context but it did cross my mind | ||
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On August 28 2015 20:17 justanothertownie wrote: Possibly because he is mafia. Possibly because he is a giant moron. Time will tell. meh, jat -_- if you're town this game (and i suspect you are, honestly) i'm not happy with you, just fyi | ||
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On August 28 2015 20:21 justanothertownie wrote: It is basically guaranteed that at least one of those 6 wagons was on mafia. Brilliant observation. ...the point is, oh brilliant one who for some reason can't manage to be the least bit constructive at all this game and disintegrates at the first sign of a scumread, we should see things that might give away which of the 6 wagons that was in the read progressions leading up to the votes i mentioned it cause i wasn't sure if the thought was a valid one before i start looking into things with the thought in mind, not to be ridiculed based off of simple statistics in a 14-player game can you possibly shelve the attitude for a little bit? is that within your capabilities? cause i'd appreciate it | ||
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On August 28 2015 20:24 marvellosity wrote: no idea how you are so strongly convinced vivax is town i think that's pretty weird eh i dunnae i still have a reread and i expect things to change; they always do he felt townie to me though | ||
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yeah okay i'll just do my own thing then ftr i'm still not certain that the theory is a good one and i would like people to talk about it but apparently that's asking too much right now like i'm not saying "one of the wagons was scum"...i'm saying "i think the large number of wagons and spread of votes is indicative of scum either being voted for/talked about and people started opening up more options as a deflection tactic" ^ is that crazy or not? (marv, i get it, okay? and all i'm going to say to you right now is take me literally. i don't want to consider him. that doesn't mean i won't be taking a look at all of you to see if there's something i missed. and frankly you're kind of irritating me with the focus on that like it means a goddamn thing for me to have a stronger townread on someone than you have) | ||
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could you please answer the question then? is the theory nuts or do you think it has value before i go chasing my tail viva-style predicated on bad reasoning lol >< | ||
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On August 28 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote: the theory isn't nuts, but i'm not sure how you're going to go about unpicking it without making a lot of tenuous associations and is predicated on the idea that hopeless1der is town, right? else it doesn't make much sense nh, yeah, there is that, too i'd probably just handle it the way i did with mig/shockey in himalayas though and look to the people with weird read progressions without extending it to what those reads are yet lol >< i get the feels hope may be town, yes, but the thought popped into my mind basically the instant i saw the votecount when i returned to the thread yesterday...so before the hopeless push really picked up steam i think? so it's not really dependent on each other | ||
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On August 28 2015 20:43 marvellosity wrote: decon/vivax/CC (players you might expect wagons on?) got nothing decon bugged me for being really adamant about hopeless over boxer, but i kinda get the rng, reads the thread, doesn't want to change rng thought so eh cc...cc bugs me but i can't pin it down | ||
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On August 28 2015 20:47 marvellosity wrote: well if hopeless is town and your theory is to make sense, it was pushing away from a mafia jat or trfel nah, my theory isn't predicated on an actual wagon forming | ||
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On August 28 2015 05:46 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count justanothertownie (2): Palmar, Marvellosity Trfel (2): VisceraEyes, Vivax Vivax (2): Mr. Cheesecake, Trfel Mr. Cheesecake (2): Hopeless1der, MoosyDoosy Boxerfred (2): WaveofShadow, Rsoultin Hopeless1der (2): Deconduo, KelsierSC Not Voting (2): Boxerfred, justanothertownie Currently, justanothertownie is set to be lynched. Day ends at Thursday, Aug 27 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is mandatory! Voting is done in the voting thread: (link) this is the vote i walked into (with me still on jat being the only exception) and was what earned the wtf reaction from me | ||
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yeah it's a fucking weird ass votecount that close to EoD, at least in my limited experience um moosy...was acting fucking strange. i don't know if it was scum strange though @.@ | ||
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On August 28 2015 20:58 marvellosity wrote: certainly a strange tactic to suddenly decide to do as mafia (especially as a newer player) all the players i've seen do something like that have ended up town. Except Chez, obviously. ye that was my thoughts when i saw it apart from wanting to beat him on principle when i was trying to get people to consolidate lol >< the only other thought being he might be trying to get himself lynched over someone else eh ignore me now i'm just babbling i'll post something once i've reviewed later | ||
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it bugs me that i look at the player list and given my reads/impressions it makes no fucking sense | ||
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On August 28 2015 21:47 justanothertownie wrote: Are you talking about me or my wagon? Because how you worded that seems like you are talking about me. meh i could be misremembering i think you came back at the very end anyway...or was it just you were sitting there and kept asking where marv was? something bugged me. regardless it's kinda moot cause i don't think it makes you scum | ||
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On August 28 2015 21:49 justanothertownie wrote: So you were just agreeing with marv without knowing what you are talking about. Lovely. i know something bugged me and i don't remember what but i don't think it makes you scum. that's the takeaway | ||
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On August 28 2015 21:54 justanothertownie wrote: No, that's the obvious. The takeaway is that you are talking out of your ass which is a bad sign regarding your alignment. either shit or get off the pot | ||
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do it or get off the damn pot and work with me. you either think i'm scum or town who pushed you incorrectly (assuming you're town) so make up your goddamn mind and if you settle on town stop acting like a brat and actually try to solve the game with me cause you are making this game practically impossible for me to care about i am not even kidding | ||
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On August 28 2015 22:00 justanothertownie wrote: I can point out scummy things you do and I will. That does not prevent me from working with you. And the quoted is exactly what you did to me this game so you don't get to complain. it apparently does prevent you from working with me because at least from my perspective, all you've been doing is being obstructionist and shitting on every post i make when you're not actively obstructing it. if you think i'm scum, fine. but if you don't please get over yourself for christ's sake -_- | ||
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On August 28 2015 22:06 justanothertownie wrote: No, I am not doing that. Even though it would only be returning the favor for your earlier bullshit. I don't really think you are scum but I surely will not rule it out or let weird things you say slide by only because of that. you are being put on ignore because i find you completely unworkable ^^ this is your notice. i will not respond to your posts for the rest of the game for my own sanity, except to answer questions i'm sorry that you're too immature to be able to handle a scumread and that you think this behavior you're displaying is appropriate. but you should at some point consider that this is not the first time people have had this problem with your play in general i'm out for now | ||
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On August 29 2015 00:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Plz VE. It matters but people are allowed to disagree. No need to drama queen. Talk to me about stuff. I am having trouble with ksc/cc. Help Me out. cc computer says town on ksc that or i just like him lol >< i'm so helpful | ||
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On August 29 2015 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote: I hope we're not all waiting on me. I'm definitely not trying to re-read the game in less than twelve hours, not with my schedule anyway. I'll do so if I live through the night. In the meantime we can talk about players like Hopeless and decon. Players who have no horse in the race as it were with regard to Palmar/Trfel. For starters I thought the way Hopeless opened the night with "Well I'm fucked" was a little awkward in a guilty-conscience sort of way. Taken with his entrance to the tread, I think there could be a good chance of him flipping mafia. Thoughts? could be i honestly had a similar reaction to that post but didn't feel the need to yell at him over it lol >< | ||
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On August 29 2015 01:45 Palmar wrote: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally 1: in a literal sense or manner : actually <took the remark literally> <was literally insane> 2: in effect : virtually <will literally turn the world upside down to combat cruelty or injustice — Norman Cousins> no no no 2 is not real remove it! | ||
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On August 29 2015 01:46 Trfel wrote: How confident are you in this read? it's the traitor ;o; | ||
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or palmar's scum game resembles how i think as town to a ridiculous degree, and i really don't want to accept the second option lol >< i'm fairly sure we were both wrong on jat, or more like reasonably sure? but that's notwithstanding he decided to tunnel me for several day phases last game we were both town together so wrong is just wrong and i don't really care about that | ||
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On August 29 2015 02:21 marvellosity wrote: i would say i'm quite a few levels below peak play, and that's been recurring over the summer lol definitely >> you weren't even a threat my last scum game :/ but still a joy to play with so no complaints ^^ | ||
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On August 29 2015 02:23 marvellosity wrote: i don't mind, i'm playing a lot lazier + missing time, so it's to be expected great that your "gut scum" is CC now when i was saying all the same through day 1, you were saying you "felt" he was town wonderful :p :/ i wouldn't have minded you pushing him? i gave you the reins on that one if you recall lol >< and he was in my would lynch list at eod so >> not my faaaauuuult (bf is but whatevs) | ||
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On August 29 2015 02:25 MoosyDoosy wrote: rsoultin may be scum here. no, but why? | ||
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On August 29 2015 02:26 Trfel wrote: Ok, this sounds good. How about you go do the work and try to prove it, and I'll evaluate once you finish?  you're still a traitor -_- | ||
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On August 29 2015 02:26 MoosyDoosy wrote: Viscera is def town imo. also, why? i know why i think he's town but it's definitely not why you do | ||
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On August 29 2015 02:27 MoosyDoosy wrote: -shrugs- i don't operate that way. I just do tone reads and look at filters sometimes but I'm terrible at making cases and being a town leader. ... d1 is over | ||
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On August 29 2015 02:28 Trfel wrote: Do you disagree with any of my townreads in my post with way too many townreads? possibly i don't remember what they were lol >< | ||
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On August 29 2015 02:29 MoosyDoosy wrote: idk i'm tryna look at everyone in a new light and rsoul may be scum. in that same vein, i like the way that visceraeyes has been posting. it's not the content per se, but the manner in which he does it. it's like the key to reading him similar to tictock. this still doesn't say why what do you like about his posting? what makes you think i could be scum? really moosy just saying that you like chocolate over and over but don't like vanilla isn't terribly informative | ||
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On August 29 2015 02:33 justanothertownie wrote: I think that analogy isn't exactly perfect. mmm no i'm actually not very vanilla | ||
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On August 29 2015 02:35 marvellosity wrote: liked my role blurb in Personality btw <3 glad you approve | ||
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On August 29 2015 02:35 MoosyDoosy wrote: so ur ok w/ mr. cc lyncherino shenanigans? i'd tell you to read my filter before making tonereads based on nothing but given no one reads my filters i'll just settle on duh | ||
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On August 29 2015 02:38 MoosyDoosy wrote: no actually i knew u were up for mr. cc lyncherino stuff but i just wanted an ironclad statement from u. thx for ur participating. btw i am currently slogging thru ur filter and i can say that it is actually cancer for the eyes. -squints at- | ||
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tldr it please so i can continue being lazy? | ||
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i'm just following my senpais' examples! \o/ | ||
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On August 29 2015 02:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: he wants to kill me D2, he has wave null, viscera town, vivax null i forget, and wants ksc to die from vig or decon to die from vig. i think. i kinda skimmed too. so you saw he's missing half the game as well? cool | ||
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On August 29 2015 02:51 MoosyDoosy wrote: i am thinking wave is town btw. obv i have 30% bias for him which is never good, but also because he's throwing out little posts like this which i normally don't see him do and which tone read to town. also his controversies are also NAI but in fact show townie although him sheeping palmar d1 without much thought is never good. hm...ksc on wave and me is actually interesting there. because he says he hates inconsistencies in play and statement. can people confirm this? does he normally focus on people that just say wtf they want when they're town? he tunneled ls so it's not outside his wheelhouse? he's logic-based -shrugs- | ||
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On August 29 2015 05:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Look. There were like 3 pages in the game. I'm reading. I think Rsoultin is town. One of Palmar's first post is that Rsoultin is 2% mafia, so I think "hey, we're on the same wavelength here, he might be town". You're acting as if I'm putting my 100% god faith in that Palmar is town because of this. I do not. It was one early game read that I felt comfortable jumping into the day with because it was true. Doesn't matter how illogical anyone else thinks it is, it was true. meh i ignored this the first time cause everyone who doesn't know me tends to either read me town (cause they're not aware of what i'm capable of) or can't comprehend my posts at all and call it shit posting. but maybe i shouldn't have. if you thought i was town so quickly, why would it be surprising to you for anyone else to, and why would that speak to their alignment at all? | ||
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a town cc saw a player who was obvious, slamdunk (or at least as slamdunk as an early d1 can be) town, do to excitement and activity or whatever some other player goes, damn, rsoul so townie and town cc's reaction is to assume that what...a scum player couldn't possibly go...oh damn, rsoul is so townie i'm not gonna bother with her let's just give obvious town an obvious townread? what? | ||
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On August 29 2015 05:56 Vivax wrote: A recap of those reasons would be nice since marv is already going ham on CC with reasons that oppose your point of view. agreed. i'd like to know your reasons for townreading cc as well, kels | ||
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On August 29 2015 05:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I figured mafia would not be so quick to claim that you were town. It would be pretty easy to interpret most of your posting as, so you say, shit-posting and being mafia indicative. After all, you just poked people with sticks and gave some meager reads. I read that as towny excitement. Mafia can easily skew that to be useless filler. I don't understand what the big deal is. Palmar came up with the same tentative conclusion I did early on about your alignment. Regardless of his reasons (which seemed OK), his train of thought seemed townie because it was similar to mine. so why didn't you see it as shit-posting? | ||
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On August 29 2015 05:58 KelsierSC wrote: I liked the tone of his posting early on, i agreed with his interpretation of the push on JAT. He didn't like wave which was the same as me. The scum read on him is partly based on a game from years ago that I wasn't in so that has no relevance at all. eh ye okay they're weak but my reads are fairly weak/amorphous as well | ||
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i guess what i'm getting at here is you are basically saying that you consciously saw something that could be interpreted as either excitement or shit-posting, and simultaneously avoided the "this is shit-posting" pitfall not knowing me from adam while deciding that scum would push me for that, so anyone townreading me must be town? i just...don't get this line of thinking | ||
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On August 29 2015 06:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: These are all early day 1 reads, there is nothing concrete about them. I'm not saying that Rsoultin is absolutely town because she was excited at the beginning of the day. I'm not saying Palmar must be town because he townread Rsoultin early on. Jesus people, it's just how I interpreted the game early on to get a grasp on who was best to look at. If you don't like my reasoning for early reads when there are 5 pages in the game, I'm very sorry. I don't clean up my reads to look absolutely iron-clad logical from everyone's perspective. I have a unique point of view, and I may town/scum read people early for reasons that don't make complete sense to everyone. That's because I'm going with my gut as town, and gut-reads are typically just feelings. Not much else to go on early in the game. Like, it's starting to get me angry that everyone is simultaneously scumreading me for "clean posts/TMI/to good to be town" while also stating that some of my thought processes are illogical. Those two can't go together, it's either one or the other. Because if I am adhering to my 2 yr old scum meta and having very clean posts, then I have very few flaws in my logic because I'm making up stuff that is believable. I'm town. I try to make what I'm thinking (no matter if it actually makes sense to you guys or not) visible, because I'm being truthful. I'm clearly attempting to figure out the game through whatever avenues I can, and there is nothing more towny than that. tldr you have no explanation. gotcha my problem is gut reads or not, the read progression is odd. i don't care when people demonstrate they don't think logically, but you don't seem to have that problem | ||
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strong town marv - lock town (don't care about you wafflers) town vivax - tangentially aggressive/not his scum game palmar - too similar d1 thoughts wave - disorganized/not his scum game town leans ve - anger/aggression/frustration says town ve jat - irritating but his play has the "jattyness" i didn't see earlier ksc - scum game is worse than this moosy - chaotic/tone says town poe condor - more likely scum if hopeless is town than if hopeless is scum? almost want to punt him up into town leans though hopeless - could just be awful though trfel - so...yeah. fuck this shit like...it feels like he's deliberately avoiding me in thread and i just came to the very uncomfortable conclusion that i'm actually more sure of at least 4 players than i am of him, which should never happen if he's town and actually playing CC - gut scumread...there's a disconnect somewhere...i'll figure out what it is eventually tldr: condor could be town actually maybe and i think truffle may actually be scum and i've just been stupid an entire day phase and jat's gonna end up crowing end game and i hate you jat -_- | ||
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i don't feel he's strongly town and...i dunnae...i can't seem to catch him in thread this game even when he was here before and that's fucking weird | ||
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On August 29 2015 06:47 Trfel wrote: Wait, you're scumreading me for exactly the reason I was worried about you??? That's really funny XD wait you're still hanging around not engaging with me??? that's really funny -_- | ||
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On August 29 2015 06:47 justanothertownie wrote: Quite a few surprises in here. Besides the obvious: What makes you think Wave is disorganized and why do you think he couldn't fake that as scum? How would you characterize Vivax scumgame? How can you say Kelsiers scumgame is worse than this when he just played a very good scumgame? - i think he could fake it as scum but he doesn't, and it feels like he's approached this game very naturally instead of with the purpose and deliberateness i'd expect and have seen in his scum games - vivax's scumgame is awful, boring, and not terribly aggressive (i.e. not this) - he didn't | ||
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On August 29 2015 06:51 Trfel wrote: I'm five pages behind. No sense discussing serious things with people when I'm five pages behind. And I don't feel like reading those five pages at this time, so deal with it. lovely coincidence boyo if you're scum you'd better shoot me ^^ | ||
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On August 29 2015 06:52 KelsierSC wrote: i mean i'm a little insulted but ok lol i don't think you can match your town play. it shouldn't be insulting. it's true of most people, including the best scum players ^^ | ||
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On August 29 2015 06:53 justanothertownie wrote: - I think you are overestimating WoS scumgame but fair enough. - I would argue he has been boring and not terribly aggressive for most of this game at least. - If you say so. - it's a toneread so :/ it's possible but i feel good about it - this is more than a toneread and i'd fight with people trying to lynch viva, straight up...it's partially how he does his own shit | ||
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On August 29 2015 06:43 rsoultin wrote: and i think truffle may actually be scum and i've just been stupid an entire day phase and jat's gonna end up crowing end game and i hate you jat -_- | ||
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awesome palmar play past d1 some others, too...i think CC and hopeless both had their moments of awesomeness but hey, winning is nice? ve, you played awesome, dude | ||
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On September 06 2015 09:07 WaveofShadow wrote: Is it weird that I'd be way more demoralized to play this game as scum because of palmar than marv? i don't think so? marv can be coaxed and cajoled palmar is tunnel king lol <3 | ||
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On September 06 2015 10:51 Trfel wrote: As usual, if anyone has any advice/tips for me, that would be much appreciated. Specifically, I still don't know why I was getting so many scumreads (yes, I know I'm stupid, but I'd prefer to be slightly less stupid if possible) advice for truffle: stop undervaluing yourself it seems facetious, but it's not? like, if you have reads you believe in, maybe you're wrong maybe you're right, but the thing is you can't just let your doubts freeze you up? people throw around that 100% town 100% mafia stuff a lot but they're not actually that certain (generally) i dunnae where i was going with this o.0 oh, well, being really indecisive can come off as scummy? but it wasn't aimed at why you were scumread it was just a general comment that i've noticed with you over the past several months. you undervalue yourself and lack confidence when the only opinion you can 100% trust is coming from town (with a few exceptions, obviously) is your own | ||
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people can bash me for that the whole night phase i just...went i should reread...i should do that analysis that nets me mafia...naaaaaah can't be assed, i'll just do it during the day phase ...that worked well | ||
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On September 07 2015 23:05 justanothertownie wrote: Yes, she absolutely was. Wait let me get the quote. Right before deadline. eh...one of my (few) strengths is claims? not that y'all needed me at all for that lol >< that i was wrong is clear. the assumption that in a 48 hour period anyone would just keep their reads and never change their mind, though, is short-sighted i think -shrugs- marv and palmar were my strongest reads lol >< and palmar only because i absolutely refuse to consider until proven wrong that my town play lines up with his scum play so neatly...that would be very demoralizing | ||
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On September 08 2015 00:28 justanothertownie wrote: I am not saying you wouldn't have changed your mind but still - why shoot the player on the complete wrong track over those who aren't? Very strange choice to me. :/ Anyways let's keep it at that before people start saying I am bashing your play again. nh? nah i have no issue with you saying i was wrong when i was lol i'm often wrong. how else do i end up in 3-man lylo with onegu? @.@ | ||
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