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On July 10 2015 05:31 Holyflare wrote:
you think i'm mafia so who gives a shit
How is this the best player who has ever played on the site. O.o This is such an anti-town phrase. Down with people who refute arguments with well you're wrong on me.
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On July 10 2015 05:32 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:30 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 05:29 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
I mean, I kinda have to believe damdred is mafia here...I spent the past bit trying to comprehend why he would JK me and outside of using it on me cuz of the relationship we have I can't particularly justify it. But looking at it from the other angle is more troubling. If damdred was the JK, that means that the mafia fully intended for 1 investigation to go through and they chose mine over milo's. I can't really comprehend that. I understand that it is an acceptable statistical risk to take and the math makes sense; but on the chance one of the cops finds a red target why would you prefer to get into a yelling match with me rather than milo? No offense to milo, but I can yell, kick, scream, and throw a fit better than he can. And it is not like my claim is so much shadier than his to where I have so much less credit to where I am a better option in that regard. I just don't get it. Especially now that I learned there was 0 kp on me....I just am having a hard time trying to see a scenario where the stars align.... mafia could have shot you and jat could be mafia fake claiming the hit which lynches town jk damdred and probably milo after that (who could be town, yet super unlikely) thus they never expected you to get saved and had to make up some bs less than 0% chance but probably like 5% Wait wait wait. If he is fake claiming a hit and Damdred is JK I'm like confirmed town. Get outta here. I'm not scum if Damdred flips scum and scum if Damdred flips town. If Harkon is fakeclaiming I'm ready to lose this game simply because of the #sickPlays.
If he is fake claiming, I 100% believe you are mafia with him.
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On July 10 2015 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
your blatant lies to the thread
Is anyone else reading this? You said even if Damdred flipped town I 'could' be town, but it would be 'super unlikely'. Thus, it is super likely I am scum if Damdred flips town. Stop screaming everytime I even mention a problem in what you say. Whether or not you're town or mafia, it makes discussing points unpleasant.
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On July 10 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:
I think I know the WIFOM reason Ritoky called me town, and that makes me think he is town as well.
There is no "Harkon is bothering me". you either think he's lying about his claim or you do not.
There is no grey.[/QUOTE]
Of course there is grey. This is mafia. The game is about the grey. I think he is lying, but the odds tell me he is not. So I'm willing to wait for more evidence until I call him scum.
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There is no lapse in logic. I said I had you as scum day 1. You said I did it for wrong reasons. That's an opinion, not fact, unlike my statement.
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On July 10 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote:
You know what's unpleasant? Knowing you're 100% mafia and having to listen to you write all of these posts that require responding to.
Dispute the case that I just presented to you.
The fun of this game is being able to argue your point of view out over those you think are scum. Not using hyperbole and hysterics to attempt to derail any conversation. You can't know I'm 100% mafia, because I'm not. Even if you were cop and had a red check on me, you still could not be certain due to the framer. So do me and the rest of town a favor and be willing to consider that 1% .1% chance that I'm town.
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On July 10 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:41 milo109 wrote:There is no lapse in logic. I said I had you as scum day 1. You said I did it for wrong reasons. That's an opinion, not fact, unlike my statement. There is lapse in logic. You said you scum read me for a reason which was wrong. I corrected that reason and you agreed. You still scum read me for that reason. You also did not have mz in your list of scum reads but you became so suddenly certain that MZ was mafia that you decided to base everything off of that. You ignore the fact that i'm pushing the majority of your scum reads and still scum read me. You can say "oh but mafia can push their buddies" like you did last time but there is absolutely no way that you think i'm mafia with both HtS AND rsoulting. No way. It doesn't make sense. You then say that even though I was pushing your scum list and the reason you originally scum read me for disappeared that I'm still scum anyway because my play is so obvious? What is so obvious about it and what makes it so scummy since you know, pushing your list of scum reads doesn't sound scummy to me.
I think you have a misunderstanding of logic. I no longer scum read you because of that post. Logic is using facts to derive others. It's not about opinions. Unless I was blatantly lying, I had no lapse in logic. And I wasn't. I no longer think you are mafia with HtS and rsoultin. The thing about your play now is the way you stick by your reads even in the oddest of hypotheticals, in the weirdest of conspiracies, when common sense should tell you otherwise. Also.. this whole train of quotes is full of play that is either from the point of view of mafia, or a town that just wants to be called town instead of winning the game.
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Unless we are mafia partners or you are cheating, there is no way to know 100%.
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On July 10 2015 05:42 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:40 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:
There is no "Harkon is bothering me". you either think he's lying about his claim or you do not.
There is no grey. Of course there is grey. This is mafia. The game is about the grey. I think he is lying, but the odds tell me he is not. So I'm willing to wait for more evidence until I call him scum. on what basis do you think he is lying?
The use of the TMI argument on me. I think it's really quite indicative of mafia. Don't like the way he has been sheeping HF, and haven't liked his posts. That's all. Not enough to be certain.
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On July 10 2015 05:51 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:50 milo109 wrote:
Unless we are mafia partners or you are cheating, there is no way to know 100%. what if i told you i was cheating and know you're mafia?
Then I'd say you were bad at it.
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On July 10 2015 05:50 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:48 scott31337 wrote:On July 10 2015 05:44 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote:
You know what's unpleasant? Knowing you're 100% mafia and having to listen to you write all of these posts that require responding to.
Dispute the case that I just presented to you. The fun of this game is being able to argue your point of view out over those you think are scum. Not using hyperbole and hysterics to attempt to derail any conversation. You can't know I'm 100% mafia, because I'm not. Even if you were cop and had a red check on me, you still could not be certain due to the framer. So do me and the rest of town a favor and be willing to consider that 1% .1% chance that I'm town. Oh so there is a Framer, thanks bud.... erm that's actually as close a TMI as it gets, yep
If you hadn't noticed, I've had to type quite fast to answer all of this. There is the possibility of the framer, which is what I meant.
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On July 10 2015 05:56 boxerfred wrote:
are you in a hurry? take your time to read and think.
I have dinner soon. And there hasn't been much to think about. Holy's accusations are not exactly stimulating.
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On July 10 2015 05:58 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:48 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 05:41 milo109 wrote:There is no lapse in logic. I said I had you as scum day 1. You said I did it for wrong reasons. That's an opinion, not fact, unlike my statement. There is lapse in logic. You said you scum read me for a reason which was wrong. I corrected that reason and you agreed. You still scum read me for that reason. You also did not have mz in your list of scum reads but you became so suddenly certain that MZ was mafia that you decided to base everything off of that. You ignore the fact that i'm pushing the majority of your scum reads and still scum read me. You can say "oh but mafia can push their buddies" like you did last time but there is absolutely no way that you think i'm mafia with both HtS AND rsoulting. No way. It doesn't make sense. You then say that even though I was pushing your scum list and the reason you originally scum read me for disappeared that I'm still scum anyway because my play is so obvious? What is so obvious about it and what makes it so scummy since you know, pushing your list of scum reads doesn't sound scummy to me. I think you have a misunderstanding of logic. I no longer scum read you because of that post. Logic is using facts to derive others. It's not about opinions. Unless I was blatantly lying, I had no lapse in logic. And I wasn't. I no longer think you are mafia with HtS and rsoultin. The thing about your play now is the way you stick by your reads even in the oddest of hypotheticals, in the weirdest of conspiracies, when common sense should tell you otherwise. Also.. this whole train of quotes is full of play that is either from the point of view of mafia, or a town that just wants to be called town instead of winning the game. No. You DID scum read me because of that post even after I corrected you. It's in my case right there for all to see, the quote you used. What's wrong with me sticking by my reads? I think marv pointed out excellent points on MZ at night and it made me rethink my read on you and decide that from your perspective as someone in your SECOND game that coming up with "that was definitely a deflection off of mafia mz" before mz had even really done anything (and his posts weren't that bad at the time) made absolutely no sense in the slightest. That is your first instance of TMI. Then, today, you fake claim on clarity and get a towny reaction from it and still call him mafia for nothing. You see damdred getting screwed over by Geript and in a world where you see JAT getting shot as veteran you STILL call damdred town????? It doesn't make sense at all. You seem to think that there is a veteran a banisher a jailkeeper and 2 cops and that's all been revealed in one/two cycles? Every post you make just oozes of you knowing what happened at night and making decisions based off of that. There is no confusion behind your posts.
There is no confusion because this entire game has been about whether or not the claims are real. And I know that I am real. Also, obviously the switch off of MZ was suspicious. I tried to freaking lynch him. Read my past posts if you want to know why it was suspicious. I'm off to make a case on Scott.
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On July 10 2015 06:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 06:01 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 05:58 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 05:48 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 05:41 milo109 wrote:There is no lapse in logic. I said I had you as scum day 1. You said I did it for wrong reasons. That's an opinion, not fact, unlike my statement. There is lapse in logic. You said you scum read me for a reason which was wrong. I corrected that reason and you agreed. You still scum read me for that reason. You also did not have mz in your list of scum reads but you became so suddenly certain that MZ was mafia that you decided to base everything off of that. You ignore the fact that i'm pushing the majority of your scum reads and still scum read me. You can say "oh but mafia can push their buddies" like you did last time but there is absolutely no way that you think i'm mafia with both HtS AND rsoulting. No way. It doesn't make sense. You then say that even though I was pushing your scum list and the reason you originally scum read me for disappeared that I'm still scum anyway because my play is so obvious? What is so obvious about it and what makes it so scummy since you know, pushing your list of scum reads doesn't sound scummy to me. I think you have a misunderstanding of logic. I no longer scum read you because of that post. Logic is using facts to derive others. It's not about opinions. Unless I was blatantly lying, I had no lapse in logic. And I wasn't. I no longer think you are mafia with HtS and rsoultin. The thing about your play now is the way you stick by your reads even in the oddest of hypotheticals, in the weirdest of conspiracies, when common sense should tell you otherwise. Also.. this whole train of quotes is full of play that is either from the point of view of mafia, or a town that just wants to be called town instead of winning the game. No. You DID scum read me because of that post even after I corrected you. It's in my case right there for all to see, the quote you used. What's wrong with me sticking by my reads? I think marv pointed out excellent points on MZ at night and it made me rethink my read on you and decide that from your perspective as someone in your SECOND game that coming up with "that was definitely a deflection off of mafia mz" before mz had even really done anything (and his posts weren't that bad at the time) made absolutely no sense in the slightest. That is your first instance of TMI. Then, today, you fake claim on clarity and get a towny reaction from it and still call him mafia for nothing. You see damdred getting screwed over by Geript and in a world where you see JAT getting shot as veteran you STILL call damdred town????? It doesn't make sense at all. You seem to think that there is a veteran a banisher a jailkeeper and 2 cops and that's all been revealed in one/two cycles? Every post you make just oozes of you knowing what happened at night and making decisions based off of that. There is no confusion behind your posts. There is no confusion because this entire game has been about whether or not the claims are real. And I know that I am real. Also, obviously the switch off of MZ was suspicious. I tried to freaking lynch him. Read my past posts if you want to know why it was suspicious. I'm off to make a case on Scott. How on earth was it suspicious in the slightest? MZ starts posting, Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past. Why is that suspicious and don't you dare just say go check my past posts. Re-answer this if you have already because I don't see anything suspicious about it in the slightest.
That it would be organized and happen to so quickly. MZ was acting odd by not wanting to lynch BM. Why? Nobody seemed to ask that question. BM didn't even try to defend himself. How is that more mafia than what MZ had done? BM had CLAIMED A ROLE. Why would you lynch him first?
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On July 10 2015 05:57 ritoky wrote:For the love of God, please just do this milo. If you're town this argument is just shitting up the thread right now: Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:50 ritoky wrote:
Hey milo, can you make an accusation on one of your other scum reads instead? scott, BF, clarity, and MZ were all on your list. pick one and go.
Sorry. Lots to address. Who is BF? Am I blanking? Anyway. The case on Scott..
I only just started and I found this gem,
On July 07 2015 03:40 scott31337 wrote:
I know it was a joke but was it to get distracted off of rsoul? It sure feels that way...
I'm only at page 58 - here's my spreedsheet of love.
1) Marvellosity townie after the morning
2) Scott31337 town
3) WaveofShadow Voted HF weirdly
4) Clarity_nl mixed it with HF / slight town
5) ruXxar slight town
6) Vivax Meh/null of scum defends trfel
7) Bill Murray wanderer claim
8) ritoky slight town
9) geript slight town
10) boxerfred null meh posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul.
11) Meapak_Ziphh
12) Trfel Crap start but can be a big poster too
13) LightningStrike Meh/Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases
14) Palmar Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in
15) ObiWanShinobi Bad vote on HF / scumlean
16) KelsierSC Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109 scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave
18) Breshke Ehh
19) Oatsmaster Says Clarity /WoS mafia
20) Damdred Slight town going after LS
21) rsoultin not a great defense when pressured, scumlean
22) Half The Sky miller claim / decent listpost
23) Harkon Smurf - maybe JAT? Ehhh
24) Holyflare Mindmelt opening - town
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X
I'll be back in a couple hours after I eat and finish the thread.
He slight town reads everybody but Holyflare. Odd. The only person he calls scum is rsoultin, OWS and I. Millions of town leans can be indicative of mafia.
On July 08 2015 06:27 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 06:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
lol decided to refresh the vote thread and discovered I'm being killed. I'm currently on page 57, I legitimately have not read this thread. The vote on Clarity was so I didn't get modkilled as he was the scummiest person I found in the first 5 pages.
Top scum reads right now are clarity, milo, and trfel. There are also probably a red or two in the beginning of my wagon as well as the end of my wagon. I'm going to keep catching up but I'll leave another tab open with the current page and refresh it every so often. Why were you AFK for so long?
He lobs a softball to MZ, and then says this later,
On July 08 2015 06:52 scott31337 wrote:
I want to go back to Ziphh
Why? He offered Ziphh another day to play. Why did he want to switch back?
Also... Why does no one call Scott on TMI? -_- I'm not, because I think it's a dumb argument. But you notice that they only used the TMI on me.
And then his latest post is an attempted catch on me that is dumb.
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On July 10 2015 06:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 06:11 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 06:02 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 06:01 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 05:58 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 05:48 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 05:41 milo109 wrote:There is no lapse in logic. I said I had you as scum day 1. You said I did it for wrong reasons. That's an opinion, not fact, unlike my statement. There is lapse in logic. You said you scum read me for a reason which was wrong. I corrected that reason and you agreed. You still scum read me for that reason. You also did not have mz in your list of scum reads but you became so suddenly certain that MZ was mafia that you decided to base everything off of that. You ignore the fact that i'm pushing the majority of your scum reads and still scum read me. You can say "oh but mafia can push their buddies" like you did last time but there is absolutely no way that you think i'm mafia with both HtS AND rsoulting. No way. It doesn't make sense. You then say that even though I was pushing your scum list and the reason you originally scum read me for disappeared that I'm still scum anyway because my play is so obvious? What is so obvious about it and what makes it so scummy since you know, pushing your list of scum reads doesn't sound scummy to me. I think you have a misunderstanding of logic. I no longer scum read you because of that post. Logic is using facts to derive others. It's not about opinions. Unless I was blatantly lying, I had no lapse in logic. And I wasn't. I no longer think you are mafia with HtS and rsoultin. The thing about your play now is the way you stick by your reads even in the oddest of hypotheticals, in the weirdest of conspiracies, when common sense should tell you otherwise. Also.. this whole train of quotes is full of play that is either from the point of view of mafia, or a town that just wants to be called town instead of winning the game. No. You DID scum read me because of that post even after I corrected you. It's in my case right there for all to see, the quote you used. What's wrong with me sticking by my reads? I think marv pointed out excellent points on MZ at night and it made me rethink my read on you and decide that from your perspective as someone in your SECOND game that coming up with "that was definitely a deflection off of mafia mz" before mz had even really done anything (and his posts weren't that bad at the time) made absolutely no sense in the slightest. That is your first instance of TMI. Then, today, you fake claim on clarity and get a towny reaction from it and still call him mafia for nothing. You see damdred getting screwed over by Geript and in a world where you see JAT getting shot as veteran you STILL call damdred town????? It doesn't make sense at all. You seem to think that there is a veteran a banisher a jailkeeper and 2 cops and that's all been revealed in one/two cycles? Every post you make just oozes of you knowing what happened at night and making decisions based off of that. There is no confusion behind your posts. There is no confusion because this entire game has been about whether or not the claims are real. And I know that I am real. Also, obviously the switch off of MZ was suspicious. I tried to freaking lynch him. Read my past posts if you want to know why it was suspicious. I'm off to make a case on Scott. How on earth was it suspicious in the slightest? MZ starts posting, Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past. Why is that suspicious and don't you dare just say go check my past posts. Re-answer this if you have already because I don't see anything suspicious about it in the slightest. That it would be organized and happen to so quickly. MZ was acting odd by not wanting to lynch BM. Why? Nobody seemed to ask that question. BM didn't even try to defend himself. How is that more mafia than what MZ had done? BM had CLAIMED A ROLE. Why would you lynch him first? why do you ignore the part of the post that explains why people would lynch bm for claiming a role and ask why we would lynch bm for claiming a role? Show nested quote +
Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past
Why is it suspicious that MZ doesn't want to lynch BM in the slightest? Like your whole argument is that "It's totally suspicious that mz doesn't want to lynch bm! you guys are scummy for wanting to lynch bm!"
if you're talking about logic good sir, that has 0 of it
Here. I will make this very simple. If you are town and there is a obvious choice between you and one other person, you always try to switch to them. You know why? You -know- you are town. You might think they are the towniest person on the planet, but there is still the chance that they are mafia. Unless you're cheating of course.
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On July 10 2015 06:15 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 06:12 Clarity_nl wrote:
Holyflare if you are town could you stop arguing/get mad at people you think are very likely scum?
If you are scum, carry on. i can't help it, i'm really in a bad mood and whenever i post something someone else does some silly shit or calls me mafia and it just puts me right back in that bad mood i want an actual game of people that listen to things i contribute or at least converse with me about why they are wrong or right but instead it's little quips or just flat out ignoring or calling me scummy or just hard defending the person i'm bringing up points on while shit fighting with me
I've done my best to respond to your posts in a reasonable manner. You're the one who escalated this.
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On July 10 2015 06:18 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 06:16 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 06:13 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 06:11 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 06:02 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 06:01 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 05:58 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 05:48 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 05:41 milo109 wrote:
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There is no lapse in logic. I said I had you as scum day 1. You said I did it for wrong reasons. That's an opinion, not fact, unlike my statement. There is lapse in logic. You said you scum read me for a reason which was wrong. I corrected that reason and you agreed. You still scum read me for that reason. You also did not have mz in your list of scum reads but you became so suddenly certain that MZ was mafia that you decided to base everything off of that. You ignore the fact that i'm pushing the majority of your scum reads and still scum read me. You can say "oh but mafia can push their buddies" like you did last time but there is absolutely no way that you think i'm mafia with both HtS AND rsoulting. No way. It doesn't make sense. You then say that even though I was pushing your scum list and the reason you originally scum read me for disappeared that I'm still scum anyway because my play is so obvious? What is so obvious about it and what makes it so scummy since you know, pushing your list of scum reads doesn't sound scummy to me. I think you have a misunderstanding of logic. I no longer scum read you because of that post. Logic is using facts to derive others. It's not about opinions. Unless I was blatantly lying, I had no lapse in logic. And I wasn't. I no longer think you are mafia with HtS and rsoultin. The thing about your play now is the way you stick by your reads even in the oddest of hypotheticals, in the weirdest of conspiracies, when common sense should tell you otherwise. Also.. this whole train of quotes is full of play that is either from the point of view of mafia, or a town that just wants to be called town instead of winning the game. No. You DID scum read me because of that post even after I corrected you. It's in my case right there for all to see, the quote you used. What's wrong with me sticking by my reads? I think marv pointed out excellent points on MZ at night and it made me rethink my read on you and decide that from your perspective as someone in your SECOND game that coming up with "that was definitely a deflection off of mafia mz" before mz had even really done anything (and his posts weren't that bad at the time) made absolutely no sense in the slightest. That is your first instance of TMI. Then, today, you fake claim on clarity and get a towny reaction from it and still call him mafia for nothing. You see damdred getting screwed over by Geript and in a world where you see JAT getting shot as veteran you STILL call damdred town????? It doesn't make sense at all. You seem to think that there is a veteran a banisher a jailkeeper and 2 cops and that's all been revealed in one/two cycles? Every post you make just oozes of you knowing what happened at night and making decisions based off of that. There is no confusion behind your posts. There is no confusion because this entire game has been about whether or not the claims are real. And I know that I am real. Also, obviously the switch off of MZ was suspicious. I tried to freaking lynch him. Read my past posts if you want to know why it was suspicious. I'm off to make a case on Scott. How on earth was it suspicious in the slightest? MZ starts posting, Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past. Why is that suspicious and don't you dare just say go check my past posts. Re-answer this if you have already because I don't see anything suspicious about it in the slightest. That it would be organized and happen to so quickly. MZ was acting odd by not wanting to lynch BM. Why? Nobody seemed to ask that question. BM didn't even try to defend himself. How is that more mafia than what MZ had done? BM had CLAIMED A ROLE. Why would you lynch him first? why do you ignore the part of the post that explains why people would lynch bm for claiming a role and ask why we would lynch bm for claiming a role?
Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past
Why is it suspicious that MZ doesn't want to lynch BM in the slightest? Like your whole argument is that "It's totally suspicious that mz doesn't want to lynch bm! you guys are scummy for wanting to lynch bm!"
if you're talking about logic good sir, that has 0 of it Here. I will make this very simple. If you are town and there is a obvious choice between you and one other person, you always try to switch to them. You know why? You -know- you are town. You might think they are the towniest person on the planet, but there is still the chance that they are mafia. Unless you're cheating of course. nah this is bull shit you scum read everyone for wanting to switch to bm you scum read mz for wanting to not switch to bm now you scum read scott for wanting to stay on mz ^^ ok dude
OK now you're over simplifying. We'll get there. I scum read everyone for wanting to switch to BM because he was a bad choice. I scum read MZ for not switching to BM because he was the only choice. And I scum read Scott for it because of the contradiction in his own words.
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On July 10 2015 06:18 Holyflare wrote:
Okay?
I don't know they are scum either. [/QUOTE]
:o
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On July 10 2015 06:20 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 06:19 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 06:18 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 06:16 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 06:13 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 06:11 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 06:02 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 06:01 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 05:58 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 05:48 milo109 wrote:
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I think you have a misunderstanding of logic. I no longer scum read you because of that post. Logic is using facts to derive others. It's not about opinions. Unless I was blatantly lying, I had no lapse in logic. And I wasn't. I no longer think you are mafia with HtS and rsoultin. The thing about your play now is the way you stick by your reads even in the oddest of hypotheticals, in the weirdest of conspiracies, when common sense should tell you otherwise. Also.. this whole train of quotes is full of play that is either from the point of view of mafia, or a town that just wants to be called town instead of winning the game. No. You DID scum read me because of that post even after I corrected you. It's in my case right there for all to see, the quote you used. What's wrong with me sticking by my reads? I think marv pointed out excellent points on MZ at night and it made me rethink my read on you and decide that from your perspective as someone in your SECOND game that coming up with "that was definitely a deflection off of mafia mz" before mz had even really done anything (and his posts weren't that bad at the time) made absolutely no sense in the slightest. That is your first instance of TMI. Then, today, you fake claim on clarity and get a towny reaction from it and still call him mafia for nothing. You see damdred getting screwed over by Geript and in a world where you see JAT getting shot as veteran you STILL call damdred town????? It doesn't make sense at all. You seem to think that there is a veteran a banisher a jailkeeper and 2 cops and that's all been revealed in one/two cycles? Every post you make just oozes of you knowing what happened at night and making decisions based off of that. There is no confusion behind your posts. There is no confusion because this entire game has been about whether or not the claims are real. And I know that I am real. Also, obviously the switch off of MZ was suspicious. I tried to freaking lynch him. Read my past posts if you want to know why it was suspicious. I'm off to make a case on Scott. How on earth was it suspicious in the slightest? MZ starts posting, Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past. Why is that suspicious and don't you dare just say go check my past posts. Re-answer this if you have already because I don't see anything suspicious about it in the slightest. That it would be organized and happen to so quickly. MZ was acting odd by not wanting to lynch BM. Why? Nobody seemed to ask that question. BM didn't even try to defend himself. How is that more mafia than what MZ had done? BM had CLAIMED A ROLE. Why would you lynch him first? why do you ignore the part of the post that explains why people would lynch bm for claiming a role and ask why we would lynch bm for claiming a role?
Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past
Why is it suspicious that MZ doesn't want to lynch BM in the slightest? Like your whole argument is that "It's totally suspicious that mz doesn't want to lynch bm! you guys are scummy for wanting to lynch bm!"
if you're talking about logic good sir, that has 0 of it Here. I will make this very simple. If you are town and there is a obvious choice between you and one other person, you always try to switch to them. You know why? You -know- you are town. You might think they are the towniest person on the planet, but there is still the chance that they are mafia. Unless you're cheating of course. nah this is bull shit you scum read everyone for wanting to switch to bm you scum read mz for wanting to not switch to bm now you scum read scott for wanting to stay on mz ^^ ok dude OK now you're over simplifying. We'll get there. I scum read everyone for wanting to switch to BM because he was a bad choice. I scum read MZ for not switching to BM because he was the only choice. And I scum read Scott for it because of the contradiction in his own words. so why do you completely bypass my original post all over again: how is BM a bad choice when he's done the exact same thing as mafia before
Because while he might be fake claiming, and there is always the possibility, the chance of that is lower than the one that MZ is mafia.
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