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On July 10 2015 05:21 milo109 wrote:
I've had you scum since Day 1. I hate the way you're playing. Honestly, you seem easy to read as scum to me. Maybe I'm wrong and you're town and you appear more towny as a scum player. You've been trying to push the conspiracy worlds of me being Mafia even if Damdred is town.
Obviously if Damdred flips framer then we lynch Ritoky. But that is like a .1% percent chance. It would be mildly good for town.
Why is harkon not town?
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On July 10 2015 05:21 milo109 wrote:
I've had you scum since Day 1. I hate the way you're playing. Honestly, you seem easy to read as scum to me. Maybe I'm wrong and you're town and you appear more towny as a scum player. You've been trying to push the conspiracy worlds of me being Mafia even if Damdred is town.
Obviously if Damdred flips framer then we lynch Ritoky. But that is like a .1% percent chance. It would be mildly good for town.
No, that's not true you only read me as scum for pushing hts in an odd way:
HF is weird. You're weird. LS is weird. Rsoultin is weird. Who knows if that is mafia indicative or not?
On July 08 2015 03:52 milo109 wrote:
I want to lynch ten people.
Damdred
Scott
Ritoky
HF
HtS
Clarity
Kelsier
LS
Rsoul
Vaxx(whatever his name is)
Hopefully I might be able to narrow that down a little.
On July 08 2015 05:39 milo109 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 03:19 Holyflare wrote:On July 08 2015 03:15 Half the Sky wrote:On July 08 2015 03:10 Holyflare wrote:
he might be playing like mafia but then there's 4 other mafia in this game so i'd prefer we focus on those other people for a change and since HtS is blatently ignoring everything I write I don't mind lynching her at all. I don't mind milo lynch but I want people to talk about him with me. I'll be blunt here, I think you could be mafia and if you are, you have done a great job in the past derailing people with emotion and/or taking things out of context. I am still not at all impressed how/why you dropped the Trfel read or why you consider myself (or milo from your end) scummier than he. You REALLY can't understand why I think you're scummy??? After i've posted about 20 paragraphs about it and made a case? REALLY? Why do I care if you're impressed. If you town read Trfel and now I think his last post was honest and start town reading him why is your initial read of suspicion and how does that make sense for a mafia holyflare to even do. It doesn't, you're grasping at straws. You have no responses for any of the questions I raise. You misquote things, you take things out of context and then you try and spin it in a scummy way (milo post, ritoky actions) and then when I do it ONCE in this game (which isn't even true) you completely flip your read around. Your thoughts do not align with your actions. Your posts have no direction. Your scum read on milo did not progress in the slightest because you were "waiting for him to answer questions" despite him posting several times after that and I was asking him questions which you still didn't acknowledge. You keep posting how I am pushing milo but think you are also mafia which very likely makes me mafia but I am pushing milo and you think i'm mafia. That is the biggest double standard in this game. SO SO SO mafia double standardy in fact that i'm voting you. I don't even think that HtS took my words out of context, and I think his explanation of his lack of progress was reasonable, even though I still think he is scum. That first sentence of the third paragraph is so odd. When I read that I feel like I'm reading a mafia gloating about the fact that he found a genuine logic slip. Except that it doesn't actually make any sense. Even leaving aside the poor wording, mafia can push mafia. It isn't a double standard to believe it possible.
which you misunderstood and i corrected here:
On July 08 2015 05:44 milo109 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:On July 08 2015 05:39 milo109 wrote:On July 08 2015 03:19 Holyflare wrote:On July 08 2015 03:15 Half the Sky wrote:On July 08 2015 03:10 Holyflare wrote:
he might be playing like mafia but then there's 4 other mafia in this game so i'd prefer we focus on those other people for a change and since HtS is blatently ignoring everything I write I don't mind lynching her at all. I don't mind milo lynch but I want people to talk about him with me. I'll be blunt here, I think you could be mafia and if you are, you have done a great job in the past derailing people with emotion and/or taking things out of context. I am still not at all impressed how/why you dropped the Trfel read or why you consider myself (or milo from your end) scummier than he. You REALLY can't understand why I think you're scummy??? After i've posted about 20 paragraphs about it and made a case? REALLY? Why do I care if you're impressed. If you town read Trfel and now I think his last post was honest and start town reading him why is your initial read of suspicion and how does that make sense for a mafia holyflare to even do. It doesn't, you're grasping at straws. You have no responses for any of the questions I raise. You misquote things, you take things out of context and then you try and spin it in a scummy way (milo post, ritoky actions) and then when I do it ONCE in this game (which isn't even true) you completely flip your read around. Your thoughts do not align with your actions. Your posts have no direction. Your scum read on milo did not progress in the slightest because you were "waiting for him to answer questions" despite him posting several times after that and I was asking him questions which you still didn't acknowledge. You keep posting how I am pushing milo but think you are also mafia which very likely makes me mafia but I am pushing milo and you think i'm mafia. That is the biggest double standard in this game. SO SO SO mafia double standardy in fact that i'm voting you. I don't even think that HtS took my words out of context, and I think his explanation of his lack of progress was reasonable, even though I still think he is scum. That first sentence of the third paragraph is so odd. When I read that I feel like I'm reading a mafia gloating about the fact that he found a genuine logic slip. Except that it doesn't actually make any sense. Even leaving aside the poor wording, mafia can push mafia. It isn't a double standard to believe it possible. That's exactly what I'm saying lol!?!?!??! She scum read me because I was scum reading her and who she was pushing. Then she scum reads me and who I was pushing. It's a silly double standard but it is a contradiction of the thought pattern someone was having. She definitely did take your words out of context: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=109#2163 o.O I missed that. Alright. I agree that my plan to burn you all is still correct.
you then continued to scum read me even though the one point you scum read me on didn't exist anymore, it doesn't make sense in the slightest. You then proceeded to use extortionate amounts of tmi to throw scummy accusations at me for switching off of MZ who was actually never in your list to begin with and then you were so godly sure he was mafia. It also doesn't make sense that you have all of my day 1 mafia reads pretty much in your list and then proceed to say today that "i play such an obvious way as mafia".
That shouldn't be what you are thinking in your mind at all.
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Ritoky,
On July 10 2015 05:26 Holyflare wrote:
You then proceeded to use extortionate amounts of tmi.
Because he uses this read too. And it's dumb.
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On July 10 2015 05:22 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 10 2015 05:15 boxerfred wrote:On July 10 2015 05:14 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 10 2015 05:11 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 10 2015 05:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 10 2015 05:04 boxerfred wrote:On July 10 2015 04:59 Harkon wrote:On July 10 2015 04:58 boxerfred wrote:
Yeah I know, Clarity. So 2 KP's were carried out. In a scenario where damdred is mafia rb, milo could've only been blocked by a town rb. That town rb could definitely claim by now. As long as that does not happen, I hold his block claim for a lie and am totally fine with lynching him. Fair enough. But if milo is scum damdred is also probably scum and since damdred is probably the roleblocker we should lynch him first. Okay, So, milo claims to be blocked. My point stands. Fine with damdred as long as we don't forget/kill milo at night. ##unvote ##vote DamdredIt's also fun how HF instareads me scum though I'm really trying to help. Also it's noteworthy that while the whole thread says "lynch damdred" I say "lynch milo" instead. would've been way easier for me to stick with damdred. Saying something controversial doesn't mean you're town, it's the same situation where I didn't want to immediately lynch BM. Did you just scumslip or are you just really confident that boxerfred is town? No lol, boxerfred seems to be implying that people should think he's town because he's saying something controversial and I'm pointing out it doesn't work like that and used my opposition to the BM lynch as an example: i.e. people shouldn't be townreading me simply for opposing the BM lynch. At no point I asked HF to read me town. I was just giving reasons to not scum read me for that post. You didn't outright ask him to but it sure was implied. Your argument was this "Hey look I just said this stuff that put me on the spot" with the unspoken implication that "everyone knows mafia don't like being put on the spot." Nah. My post was more of an ironic "well you read it that way, you can also read it that way. your read is stupid." At least that's how it was meant.
Ok that's fair. I'm inclined to believe this for now.
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On July 10 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
I mean, I kinda have to believe damdred is mafia here...I spent the past bit trying to comprehend why he would JK me and outside of using it on me cuz of the relationship we have I can't particularly justify it. But looking at it from the other angle is more troubling. If damdred was the JK, that means that the mafia fully intended for 1 investigation to go through and they chose mine over milo's. I can't really comprehend that. I understand that it is an acceptable statistical risk to take and the math makes sense; but on the chance one of the cops finds a red target why would you prefer to get into a yelling match with me rather than milo? No offense to milo, but I can yell, kick, scream, and throw a fit better than he can. And it is not like my claim is so much shadier than his to where I have so much less credit to where I am a better option in that regard. I just don't get it. Especially now that I learned there was 0 kp on me....I just am having a hard time trying to see a scenario where the stars align....
mafia could have shot you and jat could be mafia fake claiming the hit which lynches town jk damdred and probably milo after that (who could be town, yet super unlikely) thus they never expected you to get saved and had to make up some bs
less than 0% chance but probably like 5%
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On July 10 2015 05:28 milo109 wrote:Ritoky, Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:26 Holyflare wrote:
You then proceeded to use extortionate amounts of tmi. Because he uses this read too. And it's dumb.
No, you're not understanding this. Harkon claimed veteran who had kp on him last night. So either he is mafia knowing the KP went on marv last night and is using the wifom to gain cred, or he is the veteran. He is on neither of your lists. So it makes 0 sense to me.
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On July 10 2015 05:29 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
I mean, I kinda have to believe damdred is mafia here...I spent the past bit trying to comprehend why he would JK me and outside of using it on me cuz of the relationship we have I can't particularly justify it. But looking at it from the other angle is more troubling. If damdred was the JK, that means that the mafia fully intended for 1 investigation to go through and they chose mine over milo's. I can't really comprehend that. I understand that it is an acceptable statistical risk to take and the math makes sense; but on the chance one of the cops finds a red target why would you prefer to get into a yelling match with me rather than milo? No offense to milo, but I can yell, kick, scream, and throw a fit better than he can. And it is not like my claim is so much shadier than his to where I have so much less credit to where I am a better option in that regard. I just don't get it. Especially now that I learned there was 0 kp on me....I just am having a hard time trying to see a scenario where the stars align.... mafia could have shot you and jat could be mafia fake claiming the hit which lynches town jk damdred and probably milo after that (who could be town, yet super unlikely) thus they never expected you to get saved and had to make up some bs less than 0% chance but probably like 5%
Wait wait wait. If he is fake claiming a hit and Damdred is JK I'm like confirmed town. Get outta here. I'm not scum if Damdred flips scum and scum if Damdred flips town.
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On July 10 2015 05:30 milo109 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:29 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
I mean, I kinda have to believe damdred is mafia here...I spent the past bit trying to comprehend why he would JK me and outside of using it on me cuz of the relationship we have I can't particularly justify it. But looking at it from the other angle is more troubling. If damdred was the JK, that means that the mafia fully intended for 1 investigation to go through and they chose mine over milo's. I can't really comprehend that. I understand that it is an acceptable statistical risk to take and the math makes sense; but on the chance one of the cops finds a red target why would you prefer to get into a yelling match with me rather than milo? No offense to milo, but I can yell, kick, scream, and throw a fit better than he can. And it is not like my claim is so much shadier than his to where I have so much less credit to where I am a better option in that regard. I just don't get it. Especially now that I learned there was 0 kp on me....I just am having a hard time trying to see a scenario where the stars align.... mafia could have shot you and jat could be mafia fake claiming the hit which lynches town jk damdred and probably milo after that (who could be town, yet super unlikely) thus they never expected you to get saved and had to make up some bs less than 0% chance but probably like 5% Wait wait wait. If he is fake claiming a hit and Damdred is JK I'm like confirmed town. Get outta here. I'm not scum if Damdred flips scum and scum if Damdred flips town.
if damdred flips town you've been projecting it 24/7 but you completely exclude the brackets where i say you could be town in this situation anyway and you think i'm mafia so who gives a shit
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On July 10 2015 05:29 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
I mean, I kinda have to believe damdred is mafia here...I spent the past bit trying to comprehend why he would JK me and outside of using it on me cuz of the relationship we have I can't particularly justify it. But looking at it from the other angle is more troubling. If damdred was the JK, that means that the mafia fully intended for 1 investigation to go through and they chose mine over milo's. I can't really comprehend that. I understand that it is an acceptable statistical risk to take and the math makes sense; but on the chance one of the cops finds a red target why would you prefer to get into a yelling match with me rather than milo? No offense to milo, but I can yell, kick, scream, and throw a fit better than he can. And it is not like my claim is so much shadier than his to where I have so much less credit to where I am a better option in that regard. I just don't get it. Especially now that I learned there was 0 kp on me....I just am having a hard time trying to see a scenario where the stars align.... mafia could have shot you and jat could be mafia fake claiming the hit which lynches town jk damdred and probably milo after that (who could be town, yet super unlikely) thus they never expected you to get saved and had to make up some bs less than 0% chance but probably like 5%
Yeah I just looked at op and saw no save notification, so possible.
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On July 10 2015 05:30 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:28 milo109 wrote:Ritoky, On July 10 2015 05:26 Holyflare wrote:
You then proceeded to use extortionate amounts of tmi. Because he uses this read too. And it's dumb. No, you're not understanding this. Harkon claimed veteran who had kp on him last night. So either he is mafia knowing the KP went on marv last night and is using the wifom to gain cred, or he is the veteran. He is on neither of your lists. So it makes 0 sense to me.
He is scummy enough that I think it is quite possible he was fake claiming. But obviously I can't be certain. So he is neither town for me, or mafia.
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On July 10 2015 05:30 milo109 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:29 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
I mean, I kinda have to believe damdred is mafia here...I spent the past bit trying to comprehend why he would JK me and outside of using it on me cuz of the relationship we have I can't particularly justify it. But looking at it from the other angle is more troubling. If damdred was the JK, that means that the mafia fully intended for 1 investigation to go through and they chose mine over milo's. I can't really comprehend that. I understand that it is an acceptable statistical risk to take and the math makes sense; but on the chance one of the cops finds a red target why would you prefer to get into a yelling match with me rather than milo? No offense to milo, but I can yell, kick, scream, and throw a fit better than he can. And it is not like my claim is so much shadier than his to where I have so much less credit to where I am a better option in that regard. I just don't get it. Especially now that I learned there was 0 kp on me....I just am having a hard time trying to see a scenario where the stars align.... mafia could have shot you and jat could be mafia fake claiming the hit which lynches town jk damdred and probably milo after that (who could be town, yet super unlikely) thus they never expected you to get saved and had to make up some bs less than 0% chance but probably like 5% Wait wait wait. If he is fake claiming a hit and Damdred is JK I'm like confirmed town. Get outta here. I'm not scum if Damdred flips scum and scum if Damdred flips town.
If Harkon is fakeclaiming I'm ready to lose this game simply because of the #sickPlays.
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but milo keeps making all these wifom 5% scenario's slowly climb up each time he posts
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lol I just got to the jk claim
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On July 10 2015 05:31 Holyflare wrote:
you think i'm mafia so who gives a shit
How is this the best player who has ever played on the site. O.o This is such an anti-town phrase. Down with people who refute arguments with well you're wrong on me.
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HF, thoughts on this:
On July 10 2015 05:09 ritoky wrote:
Random thought as I am catching up right now. Don't people usually ping out LS as mafia for basically doing nothing? Hasn't he done nothing since the end of d1? Also, does anyone know any of his reads at all, cuz I don't....
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On July 10 2015 05:32 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:30 milo109 wrote:On July 10 2015 05:29 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
I mean, I kinda have to believe damdred is mafia here...I spent the past bit trying to comprehend why he would JK me and outside of using it on me cuz of the relationship we have I can't particularly justify it. But looking at it from the other angle is more troubling. If damdred was the JK, that means that the mafia fully intended for 1 investigation to go through and they chose mine over milo's. I can't really comprehend that. I understand that it is an acceptable statistical risk to take and the math makes sense; but on the chance one of the cops finds a red target why would you prefer to get into a yelling match with me rather than milo? No offense to milo, but I can yell, kick, scream, and throw a fit better than he can. And it is not like my claim is so much shadier than his to where I have so much less credit to where I am a better option in that regard. I just don't get it. Especially now that I learned there was 0 kp on me....I just am having a hard time trying to see a scenario where the stars align.... mafia could have shot you and jat could be mafia fake claiming the hit which lynches town jk damdred and probably milo after that (who could be town, yet super unlikely) thus they never expected you to get saved and had to make up some bs less than 0% chance but probably like 5% Wait wait wait. If he is fake claiming a hit and Damdred is JK I'm like confirmed town. Get outta here. I'm not scum if Damdred flips scum and scum if Damdred flips town. If Harkon is fakeclaiming I'm ready to lose this game simply because of the #sickPlays.
If he is fake claiming, I 100% believe you are mafia with him.
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On July 10 2015 05:33 ritoky wrote:HF, thoughts on this: Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:09 ritoky wrote:
Random thought as I am catching up right now. Don't people usually ping out LS as mafia for basically doing nothing? Hasn't he done nothing since the end of d1? Also, does anyone know any of his reads at all, cuz I don't....
i'm not gonna lie he played awfully last game and did the exact same thing, afk'd for like 24 hours came back and said something super obvious and left again
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On July 10 2015 05:33 milo109 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:31 Holyflare wrote:
you think i'm mafia so who gives a shit How is this the best player who has ever played on the site. O.o This is such an anti-town phrase. Down with people who refute arguments with well you're wrong on me.
who cares if it's an anti town phrase, you should be responding to my post where i point out your blatant lies to the thread
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On July 10 2015 05:31 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:29 Holyflare wrote:On July 10 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
I mean, I kinda have to believe damdred is mafia here...I spent the past bit trying to comprehend why he would JK me and outside of using it on me cuz of the relationship we have I can't particularly justify it. But looking at it from the other angle is more troubling. If damdred was the JK, that means that the mafia fully intended for 1 investigation to go through and they chose mine over milo's. I can't really comprehend that. I understand that it is an acceptable statistical risk to take and the math makes sense; but on the chance one of the cops finds a red target why would you prefer to get into a yelling match with me rather than milo? No offense to milo, but I can yell, kick, scream, and throw a fit better than he can. And it is not like my claim is so much shadier than his to where I have so much less credit to where I am a better option in that regard. I just don't get it. Especially now that I learned there was 0 kp on me....I just am having a hard time trying to see a scenario where the stars align.... mafia could have shot you and jat could be mafia fake claiming the hit which lynches town jk damdred and probably milo after that (who could be town, yet super unlikely) thus they never expected you to get saved and had to make up some bs less than 0% chance but probably like 5% Yeah I just looked at op and saw no save notification, so possible.
Not possible. If you have a problem with the notification ask the mod - I am sure he will tell you veterans get a notification after being hit.
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On July 10 2015 05:33 milo109 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2015 05:31 Holyflare wrote:
you think i'm mafia so who gives a shit How is this the best player who has ever played on the site. O.o This is such an anti-town phrase. Down with people who refute arguments with well you're wrong on me.
*best scumplayer
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