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On July 08 2015 00:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 00:19 marvellosity wrote:On July 08 2015 00:16 marvellosity wrote:On July 08 2015 00:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Marv talk to me about EBH and his more recent posts.
Specifically the ones where he fencesits on the whole "Trfel/LS" fight and adds both to his lynch list. his was one of the filters i looked at earlier and came away thinking that i didn't really know either way, let me go refresh myself Yeah, there was this part of his original post that i liked: Palmar - not much to say here I can just tell he's town. Finding the loophole in geript's logic and posting about him looking for his name are both reasons to townread him but I won't be surprised if i get roasted for this read. I also thought the Vivax/geript thing was a little weird to be mafia in the same post. maybe the Trfel/LS stuff is weird but i don't know if or why it's scummy weird. feel free to tell me why you think so I still think he was capitalizing on a fight between two players, which always reads as mafia keeping their options open. His response was that he couldn't really come up with reasons to scumread LS when asked. He has no mafiareads outside of those two at this point in time. I'm expecting some sort of follow-up or something but...Nothing. At any rate I think it's a better lynch than a lynch on people who post stuff and ask questions. Can you tell me why the vivax/geript thing is too weird to be mafia?
Vivax/Geript - We have a curious case here of a guy that is completely tunneling on some one else who is very emotional, but said emotional person is paying no attention to the constant posting done by the former. My explanation for this is that it is a bussing attempt by vivax (which he loves to do as mafia) and is being poorly reciprocated by geript who should try to make it more realistic but has a hard time getting angry about things that are fake as opposed to actual town members pressuring him. Just a theory for now that might prove useful later.
Just it reads very non-routine, not formulaic, bit conspiracyish.
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On July 08 2015 00:11 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.
I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.
The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.
The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.
The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.
TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.
This guy is scum vot ehim. You are completely misrepresenting me. The questions you asked me were basically "please repeat yourself in a different way" which is a waste of time. I was the one pointing out wave's townread on me at the time made no sense, holyflare responded to MY question when he said there's a good chance WoS is scum. We had this whole conversation already yet you somehow completely ignore it? If you had read the thread the reason marv pointed out my unvote was weird was because he didn't have the context as he simply looked at filters. I asked marv what he was looking at as it struck me as odd we instantly replied to someone asking him a question but he was otherwise not active in the thread. "Has no fear of HF" Alright look fine. When I made the comment when the game just started it was because I had the exact same thought process as him, I realized right after I posted it was probably not great as it would basically be like me claiming VT so I wanted to get away from the whole thing and not talk about it. Too late I guess. I still believe HF is town, mainly due to his contributions and his little spat with rsoultin seems like town on town violence. Just because you haven't seen me post "so yeah I looked over HF and I still think he's town" doesn't mean I didn't go through that process. I kinda want to attack you for being super opportunistic with your case on me but I actually like the case and I think you're probably town soooooo...
???
You think he is misrepresenting you and the rest of your defense also does not indicate that you like the case. What about it makes him town?
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On July 08 2015 00:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 23:30 Harkon wrote:This post is definitely a pretty bold statement especially since it isn't paired with any reason as to why. On July 07 2015 11:37 milo109 wrote:
Meh. I think LS is a better lynch. Your case is unconvincing. i thought the same about that comment
So this aimed at Palmar/marvellosity -
On July 07 2015 12:27 milo109 wrote:
The rest of the LS read you have not really addressed at all. How can trfel make a case on LS based on the early game but the early game is when he said he doesn't scum read LS? He changed his read on LS because of questions he asked LS about ritoky. Where are they in his case? They do not feature because he is simply reading LS' filter and making scummy narratives from them.
--LS's filter is SCUMMY. Read it. I can link a dozen posts that raised my eyebrow. Whether you are town or mafia, your job is to build narratives. The question is which are the most convincing. I didn't think Trfel's was particularly convincing, but at least he is offering up a thread that we can then weight.
Trfel isn't even towny. Just not scummy enough to be worth going to the voting thread and changing my vote. I like believing in myself, especially early on. I'll cede that you have probably played with him for than I have, and may be right.
First the way he's doign the quotes I'm believing Milo actually says "LS's filtuer is scummy" is where he starts. I am also taking issue with what I have in the bold. First he says there are a dozen posts but then he provides (the bolded) as the reason for LS being mafia? Given his last sentence on Trfel, he's goign to lynch LS for not being convincing? That explanation/justification makes zero sense.
Yes a good player as either alignment has to be convincing but that's not exclusive to town so why does he use that as a justification to lynch LS? Something is way off here. I'm not saying this makes LS mafia or not, but this is a huge red flag especially in the event where LS is not mafia. The last sentence is also problematic because clearly others and even HE has weighted somewhat on LS so I have no idea where that sentence is even coming from.
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On July 08 2015 00:27 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 00:24 marvellosity wrote:
does anyone think ritoky is town outside his claim?
or at least, i should rephrase, are there posts that might make you think he could be? I dunno his posts around what I was saying about trfel weren't awful but other than that it's pretty scummy (I keep coming back to the post where he lists 3 people that weren't really scummy at all and says 1 of them could be and going ... meh) but his claim after LS' claim last game also gives me wtf vibes but i don't really want to lynch him either kind of thing basically i'm a pussy and don't want to lynch a potential cop 
a potential one-shot cop who's never getting his check off regardless
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Here's my list right now
Town
hf
breshke
clarity
oats
geript
harkon
LS
scum
trfel
ritoky
damdred
bluehunter
milo
wave
Everyone else I have leans on but this is my head right now.
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On July 08 2015 00:29 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 00:13 marvellosity wrote:On July 07 2015 23:30 Harkon wrote:This post is definitely a pretty bold statement especially since it isn't paired with any reason as to why. On July 07 2015 11:37 milo109 wrote:
Meh. I think LS is a better lynch. Your case is unconvincing. i thought the same about that comment So this aimed at Palmar/marvellosity - Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 12:27 milo109 wrote:
The rest of the LS read you have not really addressed at all. How can trfel make a case on LS based on the early game but the early game is when he said he doesn't scum read LS? He changed his read on LS because of questions he asked LS about ritoky. Where are they in his case? They do not feature because he is simply reading LS' filter and making scummy narratives from them.
--LS's filter is SCUMMY. Read it. I can link a dozen posts that raised my eyebrow. Whether you are town or mafia, your job is to build narratives. The question is which are the most convincing. I didn't think Trfel's was particularly convincing, but at least he is offering up a thread that we can then weight.
Trfel isn't even towny. Just not scummy enough to be worth going to the voting thread and changing my vote. I like believing in myself, especially early on. I'll cede that you have probably played with him for than I have, and may be right. First the way he's doign the quotes I'm believing Milo actually says "LS's filtuer is scummy" is where he starts. I am also taking issue with what I have in the bold. First he says there are a dozen posts but then he provides (the bolded) as the reason for LS being mafia? Given his last sentence on Trfel, he's goign to lynch LS for not being convincing? That explanation/justification makes zero sense. Yes a good player as either alignment has to be convincing but that's not exclusive to town so why does he use that as a justification to lynch LS? Something is way off here. I'm not saying this makes LS mafia or not, but this is a huge red flag especially in the event where LS is not mafia. The last sentence is also problematic because clearly others and even HE has weighted somewhat on LS so I have no idea where that sentence is even coming from.
i thought he was saying there that Trfel's narrative on LS wasn't convincing
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On July 08 2015 00:30 KelsierSC wrote:
Here's my list right now
Town
hf
breshke
clarity
oats
geript
harkon
LS
scum
trfel
ritoky
damdred
bluehunter
milo
wave
Everyone else I have leans on but this is my head right now.
am sad.
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On July 08 2015 00:29 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 00:11 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.
I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.
The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.
The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.
The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.
TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.
This guy is scum vot ehim. You are completely misrepresenting me. The questions you asked me were basically "please repeat yourself in a different way" which is a waste of time. I was the one pointing out wave's townread on me at the time made no sense, holyflare responded to MY question when he said there's a good chance WoS is scum. We had this whole conversation already yet you somehow completely ignore it? If you had read the thread the reason marv pointed out my unvote was weird was because he didn't have the context as he simply looked at filters. I asked marv what he was looking at as it struck me as odd we instantly replied to someone asking him a question but he was otherwise not active in the thread. "Has no fear of HF" Alright look fine. When I made the comment when the game just started it was because I had the exact same thought process as him, I realized right after I posted it was probably not great as it would basically be like me claiming VT so I wanted to get away from the whole thing and not talk about it. Too late I guess. I still believe HF is town, mainly due to his contributions and his little spat with rsoultin seems like town on town violence. Just because you haven't seen me post "so yeah I looked over HF and I still think he's town" doesn't mean I didn't go through that process. I kinda want to attack you for being super opportunistic with your case on me but I actually like the case and I think you're probably town soooooo... ??? You think he is misrepresenting you and the rest of your defense also does not indicate that you like the case. What about it makes him town?
I mean he's wrong, obviously, but yeah I kinda like the case. It looks like a case a townie would make, dunno man
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Grrrrrrrr......I am forced to afk again for about 2 hours again to run something over. Will be back.
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Hye i wanna see wave do shit.
##vote Wave
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On July 08 2015 00:13 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.
I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.
The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.
The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.
The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.
TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.
This guy is scum vot ehim. you know the third reason marv has already said was incorrect. clarity seemed to put thought into his wave read imo. there's like 3 people who have jumped onto this clarity thing, you, HtS and Boxer. Boxer already had clarity as scum so that's ok but you and Hts trying to get onto a case that wasn't even correct is scummy imo.
I don't think the point is invalid about the unvote imo or invalidates the point I tried to make. Thread sentiment went against wave to an extent hf pushed it, clary jumped on. Opportunity to jump off clar jumps off, i think misrepresenting my case into one point is dumb, like you don't even interact with the other points of it just that its scummy because marv was wrong about one of the points i talked about.
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On July 08 2015 00:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 00:29 Half the Sky wrote:On July 08 2015 00:13 marvellosity wrote:On July 07 2015 23:30 Harkon wrote:This post is definitely a pretty bold statement especially since it isn't paired with any reason as to why. On July 07 2015 11:37 milo109 wrote:
Meh. I think LS is a better lynch. Your case is unconvincing. i thought the same about that comment So this aimed at Palmar/marvellosity - On July 07 2015 12:27 milo109 wrote:
The rest of the LS read you have not really addressed at all. How can trfel make a case on LS based on the early game but the early game is when he said he doesn't scum read LS? He changed his read on LS because of questions he asked LS about ritoky. Where are they in his case? They do not feature because he is simply reading LS' filter and making scummy narratives from them.
--LS's filter is SCUMMY. Read it. I can link a dozen posts that raised my eyebrow. Whether you are town or mafia, your job is to build narratives. The question is which are the most convincing. I didn't think Trfel's was particularly convincing, but at least he is offering up a thread that we can then weight.
Trfel isn't even towny. Just not scummy enough to be worth going to the voting thread and changing my vote. I like believing in myself, especially early on. I'll cede that you have probably played with him for than I have, and may be right. First the way he's doign the quotes I'm believing Milo actually says "LS's filtuer is scummy" is where he starts. I am also taking issue with what I have in the bold. First he says there are a dozen posts but then he provides (the bolded) as the reason for LS being mafia? Given his last sentence on Trfel, he's goign to lynch LS for not being convincing? That explanation/justification makes zero sense. Yes a good player as either alignment has to be convincing but that's not exclusive to town so why does he use that as a justification to lynch LS? Something is way off here. I'm not saying this makes LS mafia or not, but this is a huge red flag especially in the event where LS is not mafia. The last sentence is also problematic because clearly others and even HE has weighted somewhat on LS so I have no idea where that sentence is even coming from. i thought he was saying there that Trfel's narrative on LS wasn't convincing
Right but you two commented on his LS read and then I pulled his LS read for that reason. "LS's filter is scummy...Trfel isn't even towny, just not scummy enough...."
I get what you are saying but to me the problem on milo's end here is the ls read not the trfel read. The way he split up the quotes is a bit confusing though.
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On July 08 2015 00:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 00:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 08 2015 00:19 marvellosity wrote:On July 08 2015 00:16 marvellosity wrote:On July 08 2015 00:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Marv talk to me about EBH and his more recent posts.
Specifically the ones where he fencesits on the whole "Trfel/LS" fight and adds both to his lynch list. his was one of the filters i looked at earlier and came away thinking that i didn't really know either way, let me go refresh myself Yeah, there was this part of his original post that i liked: Palmar - not much to say here I can just tell he's town. Finding the loophole in geript's logic and posting about him looking for his name are both reasons to townread him but I won't be surprised if i get roasted for this read. I also thought the Vivax/geript thing was a little weird to be mafia in the same post. maybe the Trfel/LS stuff is weird but i don't know if or why it's scummy weird. feel free to tell me why you think so I still think he was capitalizing on a fight between two players, which always reads as mafia keeping their options open. His response was that he couldn't really come up with reasons to scumread LS when asked. He has no mafiareads outside of those two at this point in time. I'm expecting some sort of follow-up or something but...Nothing. At any rate I think it's a better lynch than a lynch on people who post stuff and ask questions. Can you tell me why the vivax/geript thing is too weird to be mafia? Show nested quote +Vivax/Geript - We have a curious case here of a guy that is completely tunneling on some one else who is very emotional, but said emotional person is paying no attention to the constant posting done by the former. My explanation for this is that it is a bussing attempt by vivax (which he loves to do as mafia) and is being poorly reciprocated by geript who should try to make it more realistic but has a hard time getting angry about things that are fake as opposed to actual town members pressuring him. Just a theory for now that might prove useful later. Just it reads very non-routine, not formulaic, bit conspiracyish.
I don't really understand how that's towny though?
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Honestly we should stop scatter gunning the conversation and focus on a couple of people to decide t o lynch, majority sucks honestly but we have to work within it.
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On July 08 2015 00:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 00:29 marvellosity wrote:On July 08 2015 00:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 08 2015 00:19 marvellosity wrote:On July 08 2015 00:16 marvellosity wrote:On July 08 2015 00:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Marv talk to me about EBH and his more recent posts.
Specifically the ones where he fencesits on the whole "Trfel/LS" fight and adds both to his lynch list. his was one of the filters i looked at earlier and came away thinking that i didn't really know either way, let me go refresh myself Yeah, there was this part of his original post that i liked: Palmar - not much to say here I can just tell he's town. Finding the loophole in geript's logic and posting about him looking for his name are both reasons to townread him but I won't be surprised if i get roasted for this read. I also thought the Vivax/geript thing was a little weird to be mafia in the same post. maybe the Trfel/LS stuff is weird but i don't know if or why it's scummy weird. feel free to tell me why you think so I still think he was capitalizing on a fight between two players, which always reads as mafia keeping their options open. His response was that he couldn't really come up with reasons to scumread LS when asked. He has no mafiareads outside of those two at this point in time. I'm expecting some sort of follow-up or something but...Nothing. At any rate I think it's a better lynch than a lynch on people who post stuff and ask questions. Can you tell me why the vivax/geript thing is too weird to be mafia? Vivax/Geript - We have a curious case here of a guy that is completely tunneling on some one else who is very emotional, but said emotional person is paying no attention to the constant posting done by the former. My explanation for this is that it is a bussing attempt by vivax (which he loves to do as mafia) and is being poorly reciprocated by geript who should try to make it more realistic but has a hard time getting angry about things that are fake as opposed to actual town members pressuring him. Just a theory for now that might prove useful later. Just it reads very non-routine, not formulaic, bit conspiracyish. I don't really understand how that's towny though?
because it's harder to think in such a fashion as mafia, as town it comes a lot more easily.
like i'm not gonna hard defend this stance because it's just a lean, but yea
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On July 08 2015 00:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 00:30 KelsierSC wrote:
Here's my list right now
Town
hf
breshke
clarity
oats
geript
harkon
LS
scum
trfel
ritoky
damdred
bluehunter
milo
wave
Everyone else I have leans on but this is my head right now.
am sad.
yeh i forgot to write you under scum sorry
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On July 08 2015 00:35 Damdred wrote:
Honestly we should stop scatter gunning the conversation and focus on a couple of people to decide t o lynch, majority sucks honestly but we have to work within it.
So who's on your "ok to lynch" list other than me?
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On July 08 2015 00:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 00:29 marvellosity wrote:On July 08 2015 00:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 08 2015 00:19 marvellosity wrote:On July 08 2015 00:16 marvellosity wrote:On July 08 2015 00:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Marv talk to me about EBH and his more recent posts.
Specifically the ones where he fencesits on the whole "Trfel/LS" fight and adds both to his lynch list. his was one of the filters i looked at earlier and came away thinking that i didn't really know either way, let me go refresh myself Yeah, there was this part of his original post that i liked: Palmar - not much to say here I can just tell he's town. Finding the loophole in geript's logic and posting about him looking for his name are both reasons to townread him but I won't be surprised if i get roasted for this read. I also thought the Vivax/geript thing was a little weird to be mafia in the same post. maybe the Trfel/LS stuff is weird but i don't know if or why it's scummy weird. feel free to tell me why you think so I still think he was capitalizing on a fight between two players, which always reads as mafia keeping their options open. His response was that he couldn't really come up with reasons to scumread LS when asked. He has no mafiareads outside of those two at this point in time. I'm expecting some sort of follow-up or something but...Nothing. At any rate I think it's a better lynch than a lynch on people who post stuff and ask questions. Can you tell me why the vivax/geript thing is too weird to be mafia? Vivax/Geript - We have a curious case here of a guy that is completely tunneling on some one else who is very emotional, but said emotional person is paying no attention to the constant posting done by the former. My explanation for this is that it is a bussing attempt by vivax (which he loves to do as mafia) and is being poorly reciprocated by geript who should try to make it more realistic but has a hard time getting angry about things that are fake as opposed to actual town members pressuring him. Just a theory for now that might prove useful later. Just it reads very non-routine, not formulaic, bit conspiracyish. I don't really understand how that's towny though?
I do not even think it is that weird. It is a pretty good observation that geript was not reacting to Vivax calling him scum nonstop.
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On July 08 2015 00:37 Harkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2015 00:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 08 2015 00:29 marvellosity wrote:On July 08 2015 00:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 08 2015 00:19 marvellosity wrote:On July 08 2015 00:16 marvellosity wrote:On July 08 2015 00:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Marv talk to me about EBH and his more recent posts.
Specifically the ones where he fencesits on the whole "Trfel/LS" fight and adds both to his lynch list. his was one of the filters i looked at earlier and came away thinking that i didn't really know either way, let me go refresh myself Yeah, there was this part of his original post that i liked: Palmar - not much to say here I can just tell he's town. Finding the loophole in geript's logic and posting about him looking for his name are both reasons to townread him but I won't be surprised if i get roasted for this read. I also thought the Vivax/geript thing was a little weird to be mafia in the same post. maybe the Trfel/LS stuff is weird but i don't know if or why it's scummy weird. feel free to tell me why you think so I still think he was capitalizing on a fight between two players, which always reads as mafia keeping their options open. His response was that he couldn't really come up with reasons to scumread LS when asked. He has no mafiareads outside of those two at this point in time. I'm expecting some sort of follow-up or something but...Nothing. At any rate I think it's a better lynch than a lynch on people who post stuff and ask questions. Can you tell me why the vivax/geript thing is too weird to be mafia? Vivax/Geript - We have a curious case here of a guy that is completely tunneling on some one else who is very emotional, but said emotional person is paying no attention to the constant posting done by the former. My explanation for this is that it is a bussing attempt by vivax (which he loves to do as mafia) and is being poorly reciprocated by geript who should try to make it more realistic but has a hard time getting angry about things that are fake as opposed to actual town members pressuring him. Just a theory for now that might prove useful later. Just it reads very non-routine, not formulaic, bit conspiracyish. I don't really understand how that's towny though? I do not even think it is that weird. It is a pretty good observation that geript was not reacting to Vivax calling him scum nonstop.
Definitely Jat.
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@Marv. I still think Oats/vivax is a better lynch. And a better strategical one.
Why don't you seem to care about Vivax? He's practically been reading a different game entirely. It reminds me of the DP/Palmer/Vivax scumteam game. Where Vivax's reads were literally completely misconstrued shit.
HF. Look at Vivax. You caught him that game so you might remember more.
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