TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden - Page 107

On July 07 2015 23:30 Harkon wrote:
This post is definitely a pretty bold statement especially since it isn't paired with any reason as to why.

On July 07 2015 23:45 Holyflare wrote:


still want more people to do this (it's more than just the page i linked, it's like 2 or 3 pages)

On July 08 2015 00:11 Holyflare wrote:
like "hf looks weird for name dropping the people he thinks are scummy when asked for a list of people he thinks are scummy"

is that what you're saying obi?

On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.

I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.

The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.

The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.

The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.

TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.

This guy is scum vot ehim.

On July 08 2015 00:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Too many names for not enough reasons.

But if you feel like dumbing down my argument and saying that it's about you responding about scumlists, then sure.

On July 08 2015 00:07 geript wrote:

I agree. Seeing HF in a nighty and pink frilly panties is quite disturbing.

On July 08 2015 00:14 Holyflare wrote:


and how have my reads got no reasons? did you even ask for my reasons? i think i've explained pretty much that entire list during my filter

On July 08 2015 00:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Marv talk to me about EBH and his more recent posts.
Specifically the ones where he fencesits on the whole "Trfel/LS" fight and adds both to his lynch list.

On July 08 2015 00:15 geript wrote:
Oh. And I still don't have a townread on Damdred. So I could definitely lynch him.

On July 08 2015 00:15 Half the Sky wrote:


Distinctly false. I pushed ritoky as well, and I still think he's scum now. This is part of what I mean about selective reasoning. Also the point on BM, he didn't do jack all in Himalayas, but in this game, he posted the wanderer claim and then AFKed. That's the difference here. I was willing to believe it when he first posted but I also had an expectation there'd be more from him.

I don't even know what disingenuous even means but there's a difference here that is worthy being pointed out - if he is going to claim a town role, does he have the behaviour to back it up or is he just skating by? Marv is saying (from prior knowledge) it's possible. So calling that read poor is also pretty selective reasoning on HF's end. If he had posted nothing at all then HF might have a valid point against me.

Obviously BM runs the risk of being modkilled but seeing this I needed to respond. That also said, I do agree that a BM lynch, if town, will also gain no information.

On July 07 2015 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
oh right yeh bm posted

On July 07 2015 23:06 Holyflare wrote:
but yeh hts' read is still super disingenuous after himalayas where bm just didn't play and was town



annoyance at being marginalised and wanting to be heard, which is also just a trait of being stubborn and having an ego which is why combined with her actual content and posts might be mafia

but also might be not

On July 08 2015 00:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
At this point I've gone extensively over a couple of people and I just really don't know at the moment so I will in fact end up sheeping whatever case pops up.


People I would be okay with consolodating on in no particular order:

Vivax
BM
Bluehunter <- I don't buy the whole "scum wouldn't bluehunt in thread"
milo
and maaaaybe ruxxar, I felt he was townie for the first half of day 1 but looking at him again I just don't really see

If I need to I would consolidate on trfel but I'm not happy about it. Like I've said I like HF's arguments but his defense I find very towny.


Oh and WIFOM ALERT why would I unvote WoS when I could have easily jsut sat on him?

On July 08 2015 00:16 marvellosity wrote:

his was one of the filters i looked at earlier and came away thinking that i didn't really know either way, let me go refresh myself

Palmar - not much to say here I can just tell he's town. Finding the loophole in geript's logic and posting about him looking for his name are both reasons to townread him but I won't be surprised if i get roasted for this read.