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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On July 08 2015 00:43 Damdred wrote: I honestly thought you were smarter than this Kel, openings aren't alignment indicative. But going "HEY GUYS THIS GUY IS TOWN I"LL NEVER LYNCH HIM FOR HIS OPENING" is not the same thing. Like idk i don't think that you are dumb, but that point is like idiotic. When the game develops into a super game size like it is now that's an acceptable excuse its not when its a 3-5 page game and its like 1-2 posts above yours and you just go about your day. I think wave is scum because of lack of cares but meh. I've answered about ls so you found clarity's opening alignment indicative ? | ||
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Harkon
569 Posts
On July 08 2015 00:43 marvellosity wrote: basically i am going to keep my vote on ritoky and move it later to wherever needs a majority *shrug* Not gonna fly. How am I supposed to sheep you like this? | ||
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Holyflare
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 08 2015 00:45 Harkon wrote: Not gonna fly. How am I supposed to sheep you like this? you go "good idea, ritoky is easily objectively the scummiest, and his one-shot claim is actually meaningless and it's the only reason the votes moved off him when he was leading the votes" | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On July 08 2015 00:39 Damdred wrote: You Trfel Wave I wanted to lynch LS earlier, but idk it could be a bad read based on a meta hes trying to break i'd rather give him the night so i can look into his actions a bit more. I don't understand what you are trying to say. go through your initial scum read on LS | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 08 2015 00:46 marvellosity wrote: you go "good idea, ritoky is easily objectively the scummiest, and his one-shot claim is actually meaningless and it's the only reason the votes moved off him when he was leading the votes" marv you saw my comment about how when roleblocked the check is refunded right? Like I get it he looked really scummy and then he claimed, the claim is whatever... NAI, but if he's town then keeping him alive will hurt mafia by having to waste RB or KP on him, and if they waste KP that's even better. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On July 07 2015 22:58 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + HF, I am bad reading HF D1. and I cannot tell whether his read on Trfel is bad (unfamiliarity) or mafia (taking advantage of the fact that Trfel is not posting reads quite yet, at least I know why). I will need to re-read this filter again. HF is scumreading Trfel for posting little of substance. I know others had different reads (most notably Ras) on Trfel. I'm personally reading Trfel as NAI until he posts harder analysis based on Trfel's performance from NSM11. I know he had long gaps in posting in both NSM7 (or was it 9? one of them) and IIRC he was pretty underwhelming as town in Assassination, the latter being a large game, Taking HF's argument, the longer he goes without posting anything of substance, the worse he looks. On July 07 2015 01:35 Half the Sky wrote: For HF - to clarify, when she is mafia, those are the reactions you get when she's pushed, period. I'm getting that air of selective reasoning HF, and I don't particularly like it. Scumreads on ritoky, milo109, LS, HF, Palmar, BM. On July 07 2015 19:02 Half the Sky wrote: I thought it was good when I first saw his post too. But HF is really good at taking things out of context if/when he's scum. Even if he's town the post is flawed because LS' filter showed some reasonable basis for the change. The easiest way to cross check that is to look at LightningStrike's filter against the time stamps provided. It is a little annoying to do because the time stamps are in Korean time but once I did I found three quotes that I objectively found scummy in his filter before Trfel even explained it. (You hit the quote button and you'll find time stamp quoted in KST.) ^ like this is by far the worst post hts could have made: "I liked the post too but it's totally out of context! I found these 3 quotes objectively scummy!" that was nothing to do with my case at all, trfel didn't use any of those quotes to scum read lightningstrike and after reading his filter previously actually didn't scum read lightningstrike at all I mean, hts' stances on me have been: misreading the thread and picking out the wrong bits of every argument saying oh i missed it hf is towny seeing rsoultin shit fighting with me in the most obvious way possible and saying i look bad for wanting answers lol saying i look scummy for selective reasoning on trfel despite it not addressing trfel's post at all?? On July 07 2015 19:45 Half the Sky wrote: The other thing on HF is that he was all over Trfel thinking he's rolled scum because of rolling scum twice in a row. The same thing applies to BM who rolled scum in WC3. Marv is saying that BM's play is plausible if he were mafia. If HF flips scum he hasn't mentioned him at all from what I recall so that makes that possibility much more likely. Pre associative I know but something to think about. hts even just hosted himalayas where BM was town and didn't post a single thing the entire game, it's ridiculous that she thinks i would say anything this game about BM in the same way as trfel A few of us have opposing opinions on HF and a couple voiced some dissenting opinions on Damdred - for example Vivax felt that his posts were loaded or baitworthy, like he was trying to reach for an excuse to scumread LS. Do you agree with this assessment (same question also at KSC when he returns btw), I had previously quoted it. HF, I felt there is some selective reasoning. You probably want to look at the exchanges about 8-9 hours ago to get a sense of what was happening. (Admittedly he's probably not getting lynched today, but it's something that I think everyone needs to think about going on to later days.) like what, hts can do selective reasoning and it's a mistake but that one time I apparently did it (I didn't even do it) then I'm instantly in a scum list. It's a very weird thought process that I can't quite piece together and combined with her lack of pushing in any particular direction but instead just responding to things I think she's quite scummy. all to do with me! :D but in general I'd say it's a lot of responding to points about things and not really having the motivation to do it any further. It's like giving the answers about what people normally do and making no conclusions. The one person she did it on was Milo and that looked a bit meh to me. On July 08 2015 00:42 Holyflare wrote: I think i'm on to something tbh On July 08 2015 00:45 Holyflare wrote: someone acknowledge me | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 08 2015 00:49 Clarity_nl wrote: marv you saw my comment about how when roleblocked the check is refunded right? Like I get it he looked really scummy and then he claimed, the claim is whatever... NAI, but if he's town then keeping him alive will hurt mafia by having to waste RB or KP on him, and if they waste KP that's even better. it's not enough | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On July 08 2015 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote: Sorry for playing the game? Why exactly is tunneling geript wrong? you have a townread on him? I don't like you tunneling geript for 2 reasons: - You're trying several times to call him mafia for scumslipping. - You voted on him saying you're "tired of this shit", when geript actually made a decent post about you instead of refuting it. I also disagree with this post from you: On July 07 2015 19:45 Oatsmaster wrote: Marv read the rest. I'm not kidding. We just played in a game, newbie something. Geript got lynched day 1, I was universally town read d1. So for Geript to say that I get scumread as town is inaccurate and he should know. You got scum-read pretty hard that game. It's very selective to just look at day 1. And the reason you didn't get scumread as much early was because we had stronger scumreads, not because you were a town hero making solid cases. There's a difference between not getting lynched because there are better lynch targets, and getting universally town read. | ||
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Harkon
569 Posts
On July 08 2015 00:43 marvellosity wrote: basically i am going to keep my vote on ritoky and move it later to wherever needs a majority *shrug* Good idea, ritoky is easily objectively the scummiest, and his one-shot claim is actually meaningless and it's the only reason the votes moved off him when he was leading the vote. ##Vote: ritoky | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
like maybe if you can consolidate it into a couple really good reasons why i should vote her over ritoky, but meh | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 08 2015 00:50 Harkon wrote: Good idea, ritoky is easily objectively the scummiest, and his one-shot claim is actually meaningless and it's the only reason the votes moved off him when he was leading the vote. ##Vote: ritoky top post | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 08 2015 00:51 marvellosity wrote: HF I've not got the energy to wade through it all, her filter has so many words like maybe if you can consolidate it into a couple really good reasons why i should vote her over ritoky, but meh more precisely, why she can't do it as town possibly | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
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Palmar
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On July 08 2015 00:51 marvellosity wrote: HF I've not got the energy to wade through it all, her filter has so many words like maybe if you can consolidate it into a couple really good reasons why i should vote her over ritoky, but meh | ||
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geript
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On July 08 2015 00:53 geript wrote: The more a Damdred posts, the more I yearn to lynch him. I'm really surprised by his desire to lynch Wave. Not because I have a townread on wave but more because he's definitely not the target Damdred would usually choose here. I don't recognize any of Damdred's thought process at all this game and as town I've been able to spot his quite early. Like I know you guys don't buy my magical reads. But they work. And Damdred isn't town. I, too, share the sentiment that Damdred is not towny. Whether he is mafia though is a different story. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 08 2015 00:50 ruXxar wrote: I don't like you tunneling geript for 2 reasons: - You're trying several times to call him mafia for scumslipping. - You voted on him saying you're "tired of this shit", when geript actually made a decent post about you instead of refuting it. I also disagree with this post from you: You got scum-read pretty hard that game. It's very selective to just look at day 1. And the reason you didn't get scumread as much early was because we had stronger scumreads, not because you were a town hero making solid cases. There's a difference between not getting lynched because there are better lynch targets, and getting universally town read. I called him scumslipping like twice. That is completely not a decent post. He just made up shit that sounds nice . As town, there is a series of thoughts behind who he calls scum and why. It will bend it's way back and forth between what he says. Rather, there's no thought behind anything whatsoever. It's just mafia this person. That's BS. There's no interconnectivity between his reads which you see when he's town. What is this? its a whole bunch of bullshit. Second, he doesn't snap back at people like he did at me as town. Like he'll bring it with more of a push or a thought as to why I'm scum and push me OR he'll make a push to try and figure out what he actually thinks about things. What exactly is "more of a push". Geript is talking out of his ass, I do this every single game. We are IN DAY 1, its super relevant that I talk about the last game D1. Also, go on, quote a post from that game where someone scumread me day 1. | ||
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