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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2015 20:36 GMT
#4241
On July 10 2015 05:34 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:32 boxerfred wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:30 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
I mean, I kinda have to believe damdred is mafia here...I spent the past bit trying to comprehend why he would JK me and outside of using it on me cuz of the relationship we have I can't particularly justify it. But looking at it from the other angle is more troubling. If damdred was the JK, that means that the mafia fully intended for 1 investigation to go through and they chose mine over milo's. I can't really comprehend that. I understand that it is an acceptable statistical risk to take and the math makes sense; but on the chance one of the cops finds a red target why would you prefer to get into a yelling match with me rather than milo? No offense to milo, but I can yell, kick, scream, and throw a fit better than he can. And it is not like my claim is so much shadier than his to where I have so much less credit to where I am a better option in that regard. I just don't get it. Especially now that I learned there was 0 kp on me....I just am having a hard time trying to see a scenario where the stars align....


mafia could have shot you and jat could be mafia fake claiming the hit which lynches town jk damdred and probably milo after that (who could be town, yet super unlikely) thus they never expected you to get saved and had to make up some bs

less than 0% chance but probably like 5%


Wait wait wait. If he is fake claiming a hit and Damdred is JK I'm like confirmed town. Get outta here. I'm not scum if Damdred flips scum and scum if Damdred flips town.

If Harkon is fakeclaiming I'm ready to lose this game simply because of the #sickPlays.


If he is fake claiming, I 100% believe you are mafia with him.

Why not give reasons to town why Damdred is indeed JK and I'm indeed scum then? I guess this is WIFOM and OMGUS?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 20:36 GMT
#4242
but surviving due to having an extra night life (like being a Veteran) are notified.


it does say it but that's irrelevant anyway
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 20:36 GMT
#4243
On July 10 2015 05:32 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:30 ritoky wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:28 milo109 wrote:
Ritoky,


On July 10 2015 05:26 Holyflare wrote:

You then proceeded to use extortionate amounts of tmi.



Because he uses this read too. And it's dumb.


No, you're not understanding this. Harkon claimed veteran who had kp on him last night. So either he is mafia knowing the KP went on marv last night and is using the wifom to gain cred, or he is the veteran. He is on neither of your lists. So it makes 0 sense to me.


He is scummy enough that I think it is quite possible he was fake claiming. But obviously I can't be certain. So he is neither town for me, or mafia.

you are full of shit, sir
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 09 2015 20:36 GMT
#4244
On July 10 2015 04:59 milo109 wrote:
I have written about the possibility of two RBs. However, there is no way for me to prove it... at all. So if Damdred flips scum, I'm afraid I will be the next one on the copping block. I think this quote suits the occasion:

"You do not seek to kill me, Mafia scum?" called Milo, "Above such brutality, are you?"
"We both know there are other ways of destroying a man, Milo." The mafia said calmly. "Merely taking your life would not satisfy me, I admit – "
"There is nothing worse than death, Mafia!" snarled Milo.
"You are quite wrong," said the Mafia,"Indeed your failure to understand that there are things much worse than death has always been your greatest weakness –"

Anyway. Away from the silliness. I think HF is mafia. I think there is a good probability that Scott is mafia. You as well. Harkon is bothering me too. The problem is, this game is so screwed up because of the claims. Until I know something for certain, there is no way to tell. Someone said something about them not killing me in the night on day 1, and I thought it was super scummy. I'll find it when I reread.

I think I know the WIFOM reason Ritoky called me town, and that makes me think he is town as well.

There is no "Harkon is bothering me". you either think he's lying about his claim or you do not.

There is no grey.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 20:36 GMT
#4245
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=212#4222

respond to this milo because it quite blatantly points out your lapse in logic
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 09 2015 20:38 GMT
#4246
On July 10 2015 05:35 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:31 ritoky wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
I mean, I kinda have to believe damdred is mafia here...I spent the past bit trying to comprehend why he would JK me and outside of using it on me cuz of the relationship we have I can't particularly justify it. But looking at it from the other angle is more troubling. If damdred was the JK, that means that the mafia fully intended for 1 investigation to go through and they chose mine over milo's. I can't really comprehend that. I understand that it is an acceptable statistical risk to take and the math makes sense; but on the chance one of the cops finds a red target why would you prefer to get into a yelling match with me rather than milo? No offense to milo, but I can yell, kick, scream, and throw a fit better than he can. And it is not like my claim is so much shadier than his to where I have so much less credit to where I am a better option in that regard. I just don't get it. Especially now that I learned there was 0 kp on me....I just am having a hard time trying to see a scenario where the stars align....


mafia could have shot you and jat could be mafia fake claiming the hit which lynches town jk damdred and probably milo after that (who could be town, yet super unlikely) thus they never expected you to get saved and had to make up some bs

less than 0% chance but probably like 5%


Yeah I just looked at op and saw no save notification, so possible.

Not possible. If you have a problem with the notification ask the mod - I am sure he will tell you veterans get a notification after being hit.


He is talking about the world where you're mafia knowing a save happened on marv or me and since no save notifications you made wifom play and claimed vet who got shot. Low % world that is unlikely, but possible.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 09 2015 20:38 GMT
#4247
On July 10 2015 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
your blatant lies to the thread



Is anyone else reading this? You said even if Damdred flipped town I 'could' be town, but it would be 'super unlikely'. Thus, it is super likely I am scum if Damdred flips town. Stop screaming everytime I even mention a problem in what you say. Whether or not you're town or mafia, it makes discussing points unpleasant.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 20:39 GMT
#4248
On July 10 2015 05:38 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:35 Harkon wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:31 ritoky wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
I mean, I kinda have to believe damdred is mafia here...I spent the past bit trying to comprehend why he would JK me and outside of using it on me cuz of the relationship we have I can't particularly justify it. But looking at it from the other angle is more troubling. If damdred was the JK, that means that the mafia fully intended for 1 investigation to go through and they chose mine over milo's. I can't really comprehend that. I understand that it is an acceptable statistical risk to take and the math makes sense; but on the chance one of the cops finds a red target why would you prefer to get into a yelling match with me rather than milo? No offense to milo, but I can yell, kick, scream, and throw a fit better than he can. And it is not like my claim is so much shadier than his to where I have so much less credit to where I am a better option in that regard. I just don't get it. Especially now that I learned there was 0 kp on me....I just am having a hard time trying to see a scenario where the stars align....


mafia could have shot you and jat could be mafia fake claiming the hit which lynches town jk damdred and probably milo after that (who could be town, yet super unlikely) thus they never expected you to get saved and had to make up some bs

less than 0% chance but probably like 5%


Yeah I just looked at op and saw no save notification, so possible.

Not possible. If you have a problem with the notification ask the mod - I am sure he will tell you veterans get a notification after being hit.


He is talking about the world where you're mafia knowing a save happened on marv or me and since no save notifications you made wifom play and claimed vet who got shot. Low % world that is unlikely, but possible.


ohh you mean save notifications for non vets okkkk
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 09 2015 20:40 GMT
#4249
On July 10 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:

I think I know the WIFOM reason Ritoky called me town, and that makes me think he is town as well.

There is no "Harkon is bothering me". you either think he's lying about his claim or you do not.

There is no grey.[/QUOTE]

Of course there is grey. This is mafia. The game is about the grey. I think he is lying, but the odds tell me he is not. So I'm willing to wait for more evidence until I call him scum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 20:40 GMT
#4250
On July 10 2015 05:38 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
your blatant lies to the thread



Is anyone else reading this? You said even if Damdred flipped town I 'could' be town, but it would be 'super unlikely'. Thus, it is super likely I am scum if Damdred flips town. Stop screaming everytime I even mention a problem in what you say. Whether or not you're town or mafia, it makes discussing points unpleasant.


You know what's unpleasant? Knowing you're 100% mafia and having to listen to you write all of these posts that require responding to.

Dispute the case that I just presented to you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 20:40 GMT
#4251
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=212#4222
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 09 2015 20:41 GMT
#4252
On July 10 2015 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=212#4222

respond to this milo because it quite blatantly points out your lapse in logic


There is no lapse in logic. I said I had you as scum day 1. You said I did it for wrong reasons. That's an opinion, not fact, unlike my statement.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 09 2015 20:41 GMT
#4253
On July 10 2015 05:33 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:31 Holyflare wrote:
you think i'm mafia so who gives a shit


How is this the best player who has ever played on the site. O.o This is such an anti-town phrase. Down with people who refute arguments with well you're wrong on me.

best *scumplayer
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 20:41 GMT
#4254
On July 10 2015 05:40 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:

I think I know the WIFOM reason Ritoky called me town, and that makes me think he is town as well.

There is no "Harkon is bothering me". you either think he's lying about his claim or you do not.

There is no grey.


Of course there is grey. This is mafia. The game is about the grey. I think he is lying, but the odds tell me he is not. So I'm willing to wait for more evidence until I call him scum. [/QUOTE]
lol
If we have a vig this guy has to go night 2.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 20:41 GMT
#4255
On July 10 2015 05:41 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:33 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:31 Holyflare wrote:
you think i'm mafia so who gives a shit


How is this the best player who has ever played on the site. O.o This is such an anti-town phrase. Down with people who refute arguments with well you're wrong on me.

best *scumplayer

too slow bro
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 09 2015 20:42 GMT
#4256
On July 10 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
I mean, I kinda have to believe damdred is mafia here...I spent the past bit trying to comprehend why he would JK me and outside of using it on me cuz of the relationship we have I can't particularly justify it. But looking at it from the other angle is more troubling. If damdred was the JK, that means that the mafia fully intended for 1 investigation to go through and they chose mine over milo's. I can't really comprehend that. I understand that it is an acceptable statistical risk to take and the math makes sense; but on the chance one of the cops finds a red target why would you prefer to get into a yelling match with me rather than milo? No offense to milo, but I can yell, kick, scream, and throw a fit better than he can. And it is not like my claim is so much shadier than his to where I have so much less credit to where I am a better option in that regard. I just don't get it. Especially now that I learned there was 0 kp on me....I just am having a hard time trying to see a scenario where the stars align....


If damdred is town JK, milo is scum and scum roleblocker hit you as well.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 09 2015 20:42 GMT
#4257
On July 10 2015 05:40 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:

There is no "Harkon is bothering me". you either think he's lying about his claim or you do not.

There is no grey.


Of course there is grey. This is mafia. The game is about the grey. I think he is lying, but the odds tell me he is not. So I'm willing to wait for more evidence until I call him scum.

on what basis do you think he is lying?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 20:43 GMT
#4258
On July 10 2015 05:42 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:40 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:

There is no "Harkon is bothering me". you either think he's lying about his claim or you do not.

There is no grey.


Of course there is grey. This is mafia. The game is about the grey. I think he is lying, but the odds tell me he is not. So I'm willing to wait for more evidence until I call him scum.

on what basis do you think he is lying?

He is just making up shit left and right.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 20:43 GMT
#4259
On July 10 2015 05:41 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=212#4222

respond to this milo because it quite blatantly points out your lapse in logic


There is no lapse in logic. I said I had you as scum day 1. You said I did it for wrong reasons. That's an opinion, not fact, unlike my statement.


There is lapse in logic. You said you scum read me for a reason which was wrong. I corrected that reason and you agreed. You still scum read me for that reason. You also did not have mz in your list of scum reads but you became so suddenly certain that MZ was mafia that you decided to base everything off of that. You ignore the fact that i'm pushing the majority of your scum reads and still scum read me. You can say "oh but mafia can push their buddies" like you did last time but there is absolutely no way that you think i'm mafia with both HtS AND rsoulting. No way. It doesn't make sense.

You then say that even though I was pushing your scum list and the reason you originally scum read me for disappeared that I'm still scum anyway because my play is so obvious? What is so obvious about it and what makes it so scummy since you know, pushing your list of scum reads doesn't sound scummy to me.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 09 2015 20:44 GMT
#4260
On July 10 2015 05:42 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
I mean, I kinda have to believe damdred is mafia here...I spent the past bit trying to comprehend why he would JK me and outside of using it on me cuz of the relationship we have I can't particularly justify it. But looking at it from the other angle is more troubling. If damdred was the JK, that means that the mafia fully intended for 1 investigation to go through and they chose mine over milo's. I can't really comprehend that. I understand that it is an acceptable statistical risk to take and the math makes sense; but on the chance one of the cops finds a red target why would you prefer to get into a yelling match with me rather than milo? No offense to milo, but I can yell, kick, scream, and throw a fit better than he can. And it is not like my claim is so much shadier than his to where I have so much less credit to where I am a better option in that regard. I just don't get it. Especially now that I learned there was 0 kp on me....I just am having a hard time trying to see a scenario where the stars align....


If damdred is town JK, milo is scum and scum roleblocker hit you as well.


Can you explain this to me more thoroughly please.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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