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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 09 2015 20:44 GMT
#4261
On July 10 2015 05:43 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:42 marvellosity wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:40 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:

There is no "Harkon is bothering me". you either think he's lying about his claim or you do not.

There is no grey.


Of course there is grey. This is mafia. The game is about the grey. I think he is lying, but the odds tell me he is not. So I'm willing to wait for more evidence until I call him scum.

on what basis do you think he is lying?

He is just making up shit left and right.

possibly, but i'd like to hear it for myself :D
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 09 2015 20:44 GMT
#4262
On July 10 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote:

You know what's unpleasant? Knowing you're 100% mafia and having to listen to you write all of these posts that require responding to.

Dispute the case that I just presented to you.


The fun of this game is being able to argue your point of view out over those you think are scum. Not using hyperbole and hysterics to attempt to derail any conversation. You can't know I'm 100% mafia, because I'm not. Even if you were cop and had a red check on me, you still could not be certain due to the framer. So do me and the rest of town a favor and be willing to consider that 1% .1% chance that I'm town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 20:45 GMT
#4263
On July 10 2015 05:44 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote:

You know what's unpleasant? Knowing you're 100% mafia and having to listen to you write all of these posts that require responding to.

Dispute the case that I just presented to you.


The fun of this game is being able to argue your point of view out over those you think are scum. Not using hyperbole and hysterics to attempt to derail any conversation. You can't know I'm 100% mafia, because I'm not. Even if you were cop and had a red check on me, you still could not be certain due to the framer. So do me and the rest of town a favor and be willing to consider that 1% .1% chance that I'm town.


actually I can and do but carry on responding to me
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2015 20:46 GMT
#4264
On July 10 2015 05:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:44 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote:

You know what's unpleasant? Knowing you're 100% mafia and having to listen to you write all of these posts that require responding to.

Dispute the case that I just presented to you.


The fun of this game is being able to argue your point of view out over those you think are scum. Not using hyperbole and hysterics to attempt to derail any conversation. You can't know I'm 100% mafia, because I'm not. Even if you were cop and had a red check on me, you still could not be certain due to the framer. So do me and the rest of town a favor and be willing to consider that 1% .1% chance that I'm town.


actually I can and do but carry on responding to me

technically you can only know that if you're scum.

+ Show Spoiler +
i'm actually not scumreading you for that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 20:46 GMT
#4265
no there are several other ways
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2015 20:47 GMT
#4266
On July 10 2015 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
no there are several other ways

is that a serious answer? Like, even a cop check can be wrong due to framing, godfather, whatever. technically you never now it 100% sure. if you do know it 100% sure, tell me why. I'll sheep that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 20:47 GMT
#4267
I can be 100% sure
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2015 20:48 GMT
#4268
also I'm not implying I don't scumread milo. wanting to point that out before anyone gets nitpicky.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 20:48 GMT
#4269
I'm just waiting till he responds to all of the bs points he keeps spouting
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2015 20:48 GMT
#4270
On July 10 2015 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
I can be 100% sure

you will explain that after the game, right? assuming you're town ofc.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 09 2015 20:48 GMT
#4271
On July 10 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:41 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=212#4222

respond to this milo because it quite blatantly points out your lapse in logic


There is no lapse in logic. I said I had you as scum day 1. You said I did it for wrong reasons. That's an opinion, not fact, unlike my statement.


There is lapse in logic. You said you scum read me for a reason which was wrong. I corrected that reason and you agreed. You still scum read me for that reason. You also did not have mz in your list of scum reads but you became so suddenly certain that MZ was mafia that you decided to base everything off of that. You ignore the fact that i'm pushing the majority of your scum reads and still scum read me. You can say "oh but mafia can push their buddies" like you did last time but there is absolutely no way that you think i'm mafia with both HtS AND rsoulting. No way. It doesn't make sense.

You then say that even though I was pushing your scum list and the reason you originally scum read me for disappeared that I'm still scum anyway because my play is so obvious? What is so obvious about it and what makes it so scummy since you know, pushing your list of scum reads doesn't sound scummy to me.


I think you have a misunderstanding of logic. I no longer scum read you because of that post. Logic is using facts to derive others. It's not about opinions. Unless I was blatantly lying, I had no lapse in logic. And I wasn't. I no longer think you are mafia with HtS and rsoultin. The thing about your play now is the way you stick by your reads even in the oddest of hypotheticals, in the weirdest of conspiracies, when common sense should tell you otherwise. Also.. this whole train of quotes is full of play that is either from the point of view of mafia, or a town that just wants to be called town instead of winning the game.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 09 2015 20:48 GMT
#4272
On July 10 2015 05:44 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote:

You know what's unpleasant? Knowing you're 100% mafia and having to listen to you write all of these posts that require responding to.

Dispute the case that I just presented to you.


The fun of this game is being able to argue your point of view out over those you think are scum. Not using hyperbole and hysterics to attempt to derail any conversation. You can't know I'm 100% mafia, because I'm not. Even if you were cop and had a red check on me, you still could not be certain due to the framer. So do me and the rest of town a favor and be willing to consider that 1% .1% chance that I'm town.


Oh so there is a Framer, thanks bud....
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 09 2015 20:49 GMT
#4273
On July 10 2015 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
I can be 100% sure

stop it, it's annoying.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 20:49 GMT
#4274
On July 10 2015 05:48 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
I can be 100% sure

you will explain that after the game, right? assuming you're town ofc.

Let him bus milo in peace already, jeez.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 20:49 GMT
#4275
On July 10 2015 05:49 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:48 boxerfred wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
I can be 100% sure

you will explain that after the game, right? assuming you're town ofc.

Let him bus milo in peace already, jeez.


you realise that if rsoultin and milo flip mafia you've been shutting me down from scum reading them at every turning point? i hope you do realise that
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 09 2015 20:50 GMT
#4276
Unless we are mafia partners or you are cheating, there is no way to know 100%.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2015 20:50 GMT
#4277
On July 10 2015 05:49 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:48 boxerfred wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
I can be 100% sure

you will explain that after the game, right? assuming you're town ofc.

Let him bus milo in peace already, jeez.

oh

thanks for letting me know
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
July 09 2015 20:50 GMT
#4278
gonna go ahead and vote damdred bc idk if I'll be around at the deadline.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 09 2015 20:50 GMT
#4279
Hey milo, can you make an accusation on one of your other scum reads instead?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2015 20:50 GMT
#4280
On July 10 2015 05:48 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:44 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote:

You know what's unpleasant? Knowing you're 100% mafia and having to listen to you write all of these posts that require responding to.

Dispute the case that I just presented to you.


The fun of this game is being able to argue your point of view out over those you think are scum. Not using hyperbole and hysterics to attempt to derail any conversation. You can't know I'm 100% mafia, because I'm not. Even if you were cop and had a red check on me, you still could not be certain due to the framer. So do me and the rest of town a favor and be willing to consider that 1% .1% chance that I'm town.


Oh so there is a Framer, thanks bud....

erm that's actually as close a TMI as it gets, yep
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