• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:30
CEST 14:30
KST 21:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On8Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15
Community News
PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition(?)55.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)69$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 151Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada11Weekly Cups (Sept 22-28): MaxPax double, Zerg wins, PTR12
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version) ZvT - Army Composition - Slow Lings + Fast Banes PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition(?) Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada Had to smile :)
Tourneys
$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15 Stellar Fest Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LANified! 37: Groundswell, BYOC LAN, Nov 28-30 2025 Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight
Brood War
General
RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Thoughts on rarely used units [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) [ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 3D!Community Brood War Super Cup №3
Strategy
Current Meta I am doing this better than progamers do. Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile Liquipedia App: Now Covering SC2 and Brood War!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
Mental Health In Esports: Wo…
TrAiDoS
[AI] Sorry, Chill, My Bad :…
Peanutsc
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1908 users

TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden - Page 214

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 212 213 214 215 216 446 Next
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 09 2015 20:44 GMT
#4261
On July 10 2015 05:43 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:42 marvellosity wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:40 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:

There is no "Harkon is bothering me". you either think he's lying about his claim or you do not.

There is no grey.


Of course there is grey. This is mafia. The game is about the grey. I think he is lying, but the odds tell me he is not. So I'm willing to wait for more evidence until I call him scum.

on what basis do you think he is lying?

He is just making up shit left and right.

possibly, but i'd like to hear it for myself :D
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 09 2015 20:44 GMT
#4262
On July 10 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote:

You know what's unpleasant? Knowing you're 100% mafia and having to listen to you write all of these posts that require responding to.

Dispute the case that I just presented to you.


The fun of this game is being able to argue your point of view out over those you think are scum. Not using hyperbole and hysterics to attempt to derail any conversation. You can't know I'm 100% mafia, because I'm not. Even if you were cop and had a red check on me, you still could not be certain due to the framer. So do me and the rest of town a favor and be willing to consider that 1% .1% chance that I'm town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 20:45 GMT
#4263
On July 10 2015 05:44 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote:

You know what's unpleasant? Knowing you're 100% mafia and having to listen to you write all of these posts that require responding to.

Dispute the case that I just presented to you.


The fun of this game is being able to argue your point of view out over those you think are scum. Not using hyperbole and hysterics to attempt to derail any conversation. You can't know I'm 100% mafia, because I'm not. Even if you were cop and had a red check on me, you still could not be certain due to the framer. So do me and the rest of town a favor and be willing to consider that 1% .1% chance that I'm town.


actually I can and do but carry on responding to me
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2015 20:46 GMT
#4264
On July 10 2015 05:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:44 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote:

You know what's unpleasant? Knowing you're 100% mafia and having to listen to you write all of these posts that require responding to.

Dispute the case that I just presented to you.


The fun of this game is being able to argue your point of view out over those you think are scum. Not using hyperbole and hysterics to attempt to derail any conversation. You can't know I'm 100% mafia, because I'm not. Even if you were cop and had a red check on me, you still could not be certain due to the framer. So do me and the rest of town a favor and be willing to consider that 1% .1% chance that I'm town.


actually I can and do but carry on responding to me

technically you can only know that if you're scum.

+ Show Spoiler +
i'm actually not scumreading you for that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 20:46 GMT
#4265
no there are several other ways
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2015 20:47 GMT
#4266
On July 10 2015 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
no there are several other ways

is that a serious answer? Like, even a cop check can be wrong due to framing, godfather, whatever. technically you never now it 100% sure. if you do know it 100% sure, tell me why. I'll sheep that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 20:47 GMT
#4267
I can be 100% sure
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2015 20:48 GMT
#4268
also I'm not implying I don't scumread milo. wanting to point that out before anyone gets nitpicky.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 20:48 GMT
#4269
I'm just waiting till he responds to all of the bs points he keeps spouting
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2015 20:48 GMT
#4270
On July 10 2015 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
I can be 100% sure

you will explain that after the game, right? assuming you're town ofc.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 09 2015 20:48 GMT
#4271
On July 10 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:41 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=212#4222

respond to this milo because it quite blatantly points out your lapse in logic


There is no lapse in logic. I said I had you as scum day 1. You said I did it for wrong reasons. That's an opinion, not fact, unlike my statement.


There is lapse in logic. You said you scum read me for a reason which was wrong. I corrected that reason and you agreed. You still scum read me for that reason. You also did not have mz in your list of scum reads but you became so suddenly certain that MZ was mafia that you decided to base everything off of that. You ignore the fact that i'm pushing the majority of your scum reads and still scum read me. You can say "oh but mafia can push their buddies" like you did last time but there is absolutely no way that you think i'm mafia with both HtS AND rsoulting. No way. It doesn't make sense.

You then say that even though I was pushing your scum list and the reason you originally scum read me for disappeared that I'm still scum anyway because my play is so obvious? What is so obvious about it and what makes it so scummy since you know, pushing your list of scum reads doesn't sound scummy to me.


I think you have a misunderstanding of logic. I no longer scum read you because of that post. Logic is using facts to derive others. It's not about opinions. Unless I was blatantly lying, I had no lapse in logic. And I wasn't. I no longer think you are mafia with HtS and rsoultin. The thing about your play now is the way you stick by your reads even in the oddest of hypotheticals, in the weirdest of conspiracies, when common sense should tell you otherwise. Also.. this whole train of quotes is full of play that is either from the point of view of mafia, or a town that just wants to be called town instead of winning the game.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 09 2015 20:48 GMT
#4272
On July 10 2015 05:44 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote:

You know what's unpleasant? Knowing you're 100% mafia and having to listen to you write all of these posts that require responding to.

Dispute the case that I just presented to you.


The fun of this game is being able to argue your point of view out over those you think are scum. Not using hyperbole and hysterics to attempt to derail any conversation. You can't know I'm 100% mafia, because I'm not. Even if you were cop and had a red check on me, you still could not be certain due to the framer. So do me and the rest of town a favor and be willing to consider that 1% .1% chance that I'm town.


Oh so there is a Framer, thanks bud....
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 09 2015 20:49 GMT
#4273
On July 10 2015 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
I can be 100% sure

stop it, it's annoying.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 20:49 GMT
#4274
On July 10 2015 05:48 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
I can be 100% sure

you will explain that after the game, right? assuming you're town ofc.

Let him bus milo in peace already, jeez.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 20:49 GMT
#4275
On July 10 2015 05:49 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:48 boxerfred wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
I can be 100% sure

you will explain that after the game, right? assuming you're town ofc.

Let him bus milo in peace already, jeez.


you realise that if rsoultin and milo flip mafia you've been shutting me down from scum reading them at every turning point? i hope you do realise that
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 09 2015 20:50 GMT
#4276
Unless we are mafia partners or you are cheating, there is no way to know 100%.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2015 20:50 GMT
#4277
On July 10 2015 05:49 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:48 boxerfred wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
I can be 100% sure

you will explain that after the game, right? assuming you're town ofc.

Let him bus milo in peace already, jeez.

oh

thanks for letting me know
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 09 2015 20:50 GMT
#4278
gonna go ahead and vote damdred bc idk if I'll be around at the deadline.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 09 2015 20:50 GMT
#4279
Hey milo, can you make an accusation on one of your other scum reads instead?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2015 20:50 GMT
#4280
On July 10 2015 05:48 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:44 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote:

You know what's unpleasant? Knowing you're 100% mafia and having to listen to you write all of these posts that require responding to.

Dispute the case that I just presented to you.


The fun of this game is being able to argue your point of view out over those you think are scum. Not using hyperbole and hysterics to attempt to derail any conversation. You can't know I'm 100% mafia, because I'm not. Even if you were cop and had a red check on me, you still could not be certain due to the framer. So do me and the rest of town a favor and be willing to consider that 1% .1% chance that I'm town.


Oh so there is a Framer, thanks bud....

erm that's actually as close a TMI as it gets, yep
Prev 1 212 213 214 215 216 446 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
WardiTV Mondays #54
MaxPax vs SKillousLIVE!
TBD vs Classic
WardiTV764
IndyStarCraft 165
CranKy Ducklings128
Rex103
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 328
IndyStarCraft 165
Rex 101
SortOf 87
ProTech71
Codebar 2
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 34022
Calm 4746
Rain 3502
Bisu 1874
BeSt 1513
GuemChi 1487
EffOrt 496
Mind 461
Shuttle 453
Stork 317
[ Show more ]
firebathero 316
Mini 275
Light 269
Soma 264
Leta 227
Hyun 220
Zeus 180
ZerO 165
ggaemo 128
Hyuk 104
Barracks 82
Snow 70
Soulkey 67
JYJ62
Rush 54
Mong 45
Movie 44
Aegong 41
Killer 41
sorry 41
Sharp 40
Bale 36
JulyZerg 25
Backho 19
SilentControl 18
HiyA 16
scan(afreeca) 16
Free 15
Shine 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Yoon 9
Terrorterran 8
Noble 7
PianO 1
Dota 2
qojqva1083
Cr1tdota866
boxi98312
XcaliburYe225
420jenkins135
Counter-Strike
markeloff22
Other Games
gofns29765
tarik_tv16267
singsing2172
B2W.Neo1202
DeMusliM375
crisheroes305
ArmadaUGS84
NeuroSwarm49
QueenE33
ToD29
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV470
League of Legends
• Nemesis1420
• TFBlade354
Other Games
• Shiphtur84
Upcoming Events
Online Event
4h 30m
Online Event
22h 30m
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d 5h
Safe House 2
1d 5h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 21h
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
Dewalt vs kogeT
JDConan vs Tarson
RaNgeD vs DragOn
StRyKeR vs Bonyth
Aeternum vs Hejek
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Acropolis #4 - TS2
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
Frag Blocktober 2025
Urban Riga Open #1
FERJEE Rush 2025
Birch Cup 2025
DraculaN #2
LanDaLan #3
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
WardiTV TLMC #15
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.